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Israel Working With Saudi Arabia On Iran "Contingency" Attack

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When last week's Iran nuclear talks were blocked by France, it provided a useful glimpse into just who it was that would benefit politically from a continuation of the regional confrontation. But while the French sabotage was an amusing distraction, it revealed a curious shift in middle-east alliances, namely old "enemies" Israel and Saudi Arabia, both feeling shunned by Big Brother, suddenly becoming the best of buddies. It was only a matter of time before this novel alliance moved beyond just paper and tested how far it could go in real life. Said test may come far sooner than expected: according to the Sunday Times, Israel's Mossad and Saudi Arabia are planning an attack against Iran if negotiations and talks don't come to an agreement, and that Saudia Arabia will permit Israel to use their air space for an attack on Iran including full technical support.

According to the Sunday Times, the Saudis would assist an Israeli attack by cooperating with the use of drones, rescue helicopters, and tanker planes. "Once the Geneva agreement is signed, the military option will be back on the table. The Saudis are furious and are willing to give Israel all the help it needs,” said the paper citing an unnamed official.

The flipside is that by pursuing an outright attack of Iran, the new Israel-Saudi axis would implicitly go against the wishes of not only Russia but, if John Kerry's detente posture is to be believed, that of the US itself.

Israel's PM Natanyahu naturally knows this, so instead he is merely lobbying for even more political support starting in the one country, France, which has aligned itself with the new Middle East axis, even as Israel's old allies appear to have foresaken it. Jerusalem Post reports:

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said in an interview with French daily Le Figaro on Saturday that there is a “meeting of the minds” between Israel and the “leading states in the Arab world” on the Iran issue – “one of the few cases in memory, if not the first case in modern times."

 

“We all think that Iran should not be allowed to have the capacities to make nuclear weapons,” he said. “We all think that a tougher stance should be taken by the international community. We all believe that if Iran were to have nuclear weapons, this could lead to a nuclear arms race in the Middle East, making the Middle East a nuclear tinderbox.”

 

Saying that an Iran with nuclear arms would be the most dangerous development for the world since the mid-20th century, and stressing that the “stakes are amazing,” Netanyahu urged the world’s leaders to pay attention “when Israel and the Arabs see eye-to-eye.”

 

“We live here,” he said. “We know something about this region. We know a great deal about Iran and its plans. It’s worthwhile to pay attention to what we say.”

 

Netanyahu made the comments as French President Francois Hollande was set to arrive in Israel for talks on Iran on Sunday.

In the meantime, Iran which suddenly finds itself the creme of the international diplomatic circle and is in full compliance with what the US demands, is explaining - via RT - just why a joint attack on its by supposedly former enemies will not happen:

 Iranian political analyst Seyed Mohammad Marandi told RT that an imminent joint attack on Iran was unlikely given the serious ramifications it could provoke for the region.

 

“It is highly unlikely that the Saudis and Israelis would want to attack Iran because at the end of the day both countries would be losers, they would be seen as aggressors and obviously the Iranians would retaliate,” Marandi told RT.

 

Although he consented that the Saudis and Israelis have been moving closer together lately, neither of them stood to gain from attacking Iran.

 

“It would create an economic catastrophe for the world and only the Saudis and the Israelis would be to blame,” said Marandi.

Then again, considering a GDP-boosting economic catastrophe (recall the main reason the US wanted war with Syria is to boost the defense spending budget which lately has been in freefall) is precisely what the Fed and the Congressional muppetmasters want, we wouldn't sleep too soundly if we were in the Ayatollah's shoes. Especially now that thanks to Reuters the entire world, and certainly the NSA, know just where all his rainy day funds are located. Because while it is true that neither Israel nor Saudi would gain from attacking Iran, the US most certainly would. And now it has not one but two proxy countries in the region doing its bidding.

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Sun, 11/17/2013 - 10:31 | 4162221 The Gooch
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"...the new Israel-Saudi axis"

That's rich.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 10:36 | 4162232 GetZeeGold
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Let's go kill those guys, and we'll worry about killing each other later.

 

Hey it worked during WW2......just sayin.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 10:38 | 4162241 CH1
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ALL governments are amoral brute beasts.

Religious affiliation is merely a tool to get the suckers (err, populace) to comply.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 11:04 | 4162275 AlaricBalth
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Israel and Saudi Arabia bilaterally planning to attack another middle eastern country is an outrage!

Bombing those people is the US's franchise and is clearly a violation of Section 4 of the Clayton Anti-Trust Act. The MIC should immediately file suit in a federal district court due to "injury in their business or property".

Our Lawyer in Chief should immediately litigate on behalf of the MIC. That ought to scare the Saudi-Israeli War Corporation.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 11:13 | 4162286 Running On Bing...
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Hey where did israel get all that nice war equipment?

Oh, they bought it for $1 from the USSA after their middle east conflicts, Iraq, Afghanistan. What's that you say, it was approved by congress critters and internal .gov employees who hold dual US/israel citizenship and brokered by israeli friends in aipac. It was 'just too expensive to ship that stuff home'.

I don't know about any of that. Sounds like a big fat lie.

Over.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 11:17 | 4162298 johnQpublic
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it seems as though nobody in the war machine will be happy until nobody is left

 

long sticks and stones

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 11:31 | 4162319 Max Hunter
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Saudi Royal family and nuttyahoo agree. Stop the presses. The sad part is the number of people that he will reach in the US with that stupid ass statement.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 11:39 | 4162331 LetThemEatRand
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The Saudi Royal family has been going along with this kind of stuff for decades.  Up until now, they hid it from their population since most of the population would be none to happy about it.  But I guess if no one else will start a war to protect their royal hindends from allowing Iran to defend itself with nuclear weapons, they'll have to finally come out from behind the shadows and do the dirty work themselves.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 11:50 | 4162343 Keyser
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Hmm, the Arabs and the Jews do make strange bedfellows. I wonder which one is the pitcher and which is the catcher? 

 

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 11:57 | 4162355 aint no fortuna...
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"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" just became "The friend of my friend is my enemy."

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 12:31 | 4162436 Herd Redirectio...
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Rumors out of the Middle East have for decades speculated that the House of Saud has Jewish origins.  All the worst (and extreme) forms of Islam originate where?  All terrorism funding originates where?

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 13:28 | 4162586 john39
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yes, wake up and smell the crypto zionists people.  Infiltration is their specialty, in case you didn't notice...  they can pose as any religion, any nationality... they are amoral and bent on one end power.     Now that the house of Saud is out in the open aligning with israel, the end is near for them.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 13:46 | 4162651 john39
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meanwhile, freak floods hit saudi arabia...  someone getting a message?:

http://rt.com/news/saudi-arabia-rare-flooding-844/

the lightening strike pic says it all.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 14:11 | 4162720 knukles
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Lemme see here...
Between KSA with the oil and Israel with the military clout, seems that the Obie administration's gonna wind up with the Somalian pirates for their closest ally in the ME

Nice Job Obie

The Cloward Piven, NWO Plan Working Perfectly!
The Cloward Piven, NWO Plan Working Perfectly!
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Another Conspiracy Theory Bites the Dust


If you like your Middle East peace you can keep your Middle East peace
I did it all by myself.

what am I missing here?

Oh yeah...

It didn't happen unilaterally, so he'll veto it.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 15:17 | 4162908 wee-weed up
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But The Obungler would love to have a nice big diversion...

To take the heat off him and his collossal failure of a health care plan...

And get something else on the front pages of the press.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 15:59 | 4163038 Cruel Aid
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While being completely above and removed from it... LR head shake.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 13:53 | 4162680 TBT or not TBT
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I think you're thinking of the fictional Sith and their whole darkside thing, which stories were written for adolescent boys, soooo maybe you like adolescent boys?

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 14:00 | 4162705 john39
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the most popular stories and movies usually have one thing in common... they capture some underlying truth in a way that the masses can relate to:

"Our race is the Master Race. We Jews are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves."
- Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin in a speech to the Knesset quoted in "Begin and the Beasts," New Statesman, June 25, 1982 by Amnon Kapeliouk

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 14:16 | 4162749 Suisse
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Menachem Begin never said that, it is a made up quote.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 14:21 | 4162773 john39
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maybe, maybe not... unless you were there and recorded it, how would you prove it either way?  In any event, it would seem foolish to deny that zionism is simply a form or racial/ethinic supremism.  Michael Hoffman has covered this topic extensively:

http://revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 17:03 | 4163205 Clashfan
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Fake quotes don't help prove the important and, in this thread, nearly forgotten point that the House of Saud may well be Jewish (or Khazar, whatever). This is more than rumor. Our forces liberated information from the Iraqi intel files which support it; other historical references support it, too.

For the record, I'm not claiming to know. It is beyond rumor, though, and it would explain a lot.

Some of the historical allegations can be found here: http://www.truedemocracy.net/hj33/08.html

And the info on the Americans finding this in Sadaam's gov's files can be found here:
http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2011/10/17/2002-iraqi-intel-reporte...

These are just sources I'm tossing up quickly, btw. A better, more patient search will likely produce more credible and more contemplative sources.

One other point, though, is about the whole Medina thing. It's not only a funky, cold song, but it's also an interesting word/place/name for Shriners' certificates if you know what I mean. Just sayin'.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 20:13 | 4163633 bilejones
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And just how do you propose to prove your claim?

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 14:08 | 4162726 kchrisc
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Any race too!

The NAACP was founded by Jews, only one original board member was black, W.E.B. Web, and for the first 66 years all of its presidents were white 'tribe' members. Look it up.

Not just "infiltrators" but "dividers" as well.

I have always wondered where the antisemitism that the Nazis took advantage of came from, not just in Germany, but all of Europe. Every year I understand more.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 15:26 | 4162930 TahoeBilly2012
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You call them "tribe"... I call them "East German Bankers". Funny how you get down votes when commentors expose the Zionist cabal, but the downvoters never actually deny or comment against, they just say "racist"! Please dear deniers of thye Zionist conpiracy, enlighten us as to how what we; see, hear or read, is all a figment of our imagination...to go along with your down votes.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 17:07 | 4163212 Clashfan
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It's because not all Jews are in on it, and the Jewish zionists could not do it by themselves. They need more/equally powerful groups to go along w/it, for sure. They need the WASPish, white, NE mafia; they need the royal bloodlines; they need WASPish Freemasonry (especially in the South), etc.

Implying that a small group of Jews rules the world all by itself is stupid. Understanding luciferianism, why it supports zionism, and why it reveres certain bloodlines, then, is a whole different kind of explanation.

The term, "luciferian zionism," then, is more appropriate, specific.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 14:46 | 4162836 snodgrass
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The House of Saud is Jewish.  Second, the Saudis don't want anyone horning in on their business of selling oil. Iran is a competitor.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 15:53 | 4163021 TahoeBilly2012
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Christ are the Bush's Jews too? Maybe everyone is but me...now THAT is a conspiracy!

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 17:09 | 4163216 Clashfan
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No, the Bushes, like the rest of the NE elite, are closet satanists, rather luciferian zionists. Skull and Bones? Bohemian Grove?

Russell Trust? Lots to learn here.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 15:09 | 4162895 screw face
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+1 long

 

short GE

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 00:51 | 4164238 Flagit
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i have a patent that turns Turbins, into lightning rods.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 10:52 | 4162262 RSloane
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Given the horribly crippling sanctions the US has levied against Iran there is no need for killing them directly.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 11:10 | 4162279 GetZeeGold
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Obama Secretly Loosened Sanctions on Iran

 

"A review of Treasury Department notices reveals that the U.S. government has all but stopped the financial blacklisting of entities and people that help Iran evade international sanctions since the election of its president, Hassan Rouhani, in June."

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2013/11/08/obama_secretly_loosened_sanctions_on_iran.html

 

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 11:13 | 4162288 RSloane
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Their currency entered a state of hyperinflation long ago. Their overall personal and state purchasing power is and has been in the tank. Wake me when the US releases all of the Iranian money/investments they confiscated.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 11:25 | 4162306 GetZeeGold
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Yeah....but it was reported that they're within months of a device. Yes, like we're been hearing last 4 years now.

 

At some point.....time is just up.....cause you sure as hell don't want to strike after they have a nuke.

 

Understand I'm not picking sides here....I'm just sayin.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 11:35 | 4162325 Herodotus
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We didn't launch a preemptive attack on North Korea.  They now have the bomb.  What's the difference?

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 11:47 | 4162338 reload
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since you ask - NK is next door to China, and is not a major Oil producer. I am guessing you knew that anyway.

Its a great question though, sadly not one you will find coming out of a TV screen. 

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 12:34 | 4162439 Herd Redirectio...
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South Africa had nukes from about 1980 to the early 90s, and the world didn't come to an end then either.  Nukes are purely a deterrent.  The objective of war has ALWAYS been to seize property, valuables, assets, belongings.  Scorched Earth is one thing.  Salting the Earth, or nuking it, is another.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 15:28 | 4162938 Jack Burton
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Israel had a tight alliance with South Africa in the 1970-80's until black took back their country. The Israeli's built nuclear weapons on SA soil and gave SA a share. They even detonated a Israeli nuke out at sea to make sure Israel's nukes aimed at all European capitals will work on Judgement Day. SA did admit their program and eliminate the bombs they had under internatioal observation. The US approved of the alliance and aided it with money and technology.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 23:04 | 4164039 snodgrass
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S. Africa only became a country because of the Boers. They made the mistake of bringing in and allowing in Africans as workers. Blacks have now taken over the country and turned it into another third world shithole.

 

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:41 | 4165987 Jack Burton
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This is true snodgrass. Once the Boers began to establish a real economy with minerals and farming, the blacks migrated south to seek work that black africa could not provide. One problem was when Britain attacked and captured SA from the Boers. It was a grab for mineerals and a naval base. Boers suffered a WWII style gnocide at the hands of Britain. It was British pressure that helped force Boers to surrender their country to the labor force of blacks. Media ignores what is going on there, but crime is reaching such levels that white skin is not a good thing to have. It says Target. Reverse racism is always supported by liberal minded folks, why I do not know, revenge.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 17:22 | 4163263 Clashfan
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Excepting, of course, a few meaningless towns in Japan, meaningless islands and peoples in the S Pacific, and useless desert and film stars in the US, etc.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 12:26 | 4162415 WOAR
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WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?!?

Well, North Korea is a proxy for China. That's the difference. We can't attack them without provoking a response from China.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 15:23 | 4162922 wee-weed up
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Herodotus  We didn't launch a preemptive attack on North Korea.  They now have the bomb.

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You can thank the extremely naive Clintoon Admin and...

Madeline Half-Bright for the Norks getting the bomb.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 16:48 | 4163167 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

You can thank the extremely naive Clintoon Admin and...

Madeline Half-Bright for the Norks getting the bomb.

Donny Rumsfeld's hands are dirty as well.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/rummy-s-north-korea-connection

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 11:38 | 4162330 RSloane
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I remember reading about their nuclear capability being operational any minute now for years. Iran is a relatively rich oil and gas country that is too poor to build all of the refining capabilities it needs to become fuel independent. It sought remedy in nuclear power. I do not believe that any state, nor any group of states, has the right to dictate to a nation what type of engery it can and cannot pursue. That should be wholly the decision of the state and its citizens.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 12:09 | 4162376 cossack55
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Just have Japan site their nuke plants and have GE build their reactors and the Iranians will all die from radiation poisoning within 2 years.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 12:22 | 4162406 FeralSerf
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The world, especially the west coast of North America, would have been much better off if Japan hadn't been allowed to have nuclear fueled energy production.

That said, Israel is upwind from Iran.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 15:25 | 4162926 kchrisc
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Iran is doomed.

They want to sell oil outside the Petrodollar, are of the competing Shia and not Sunni branch of Islam, have proxies in Southern Lebanon that are blocking Israel's desire to take the waters of the Litani basin for themselves, are allied with the Syrians which are blocking the Saudis' pipeline to Europe and control the water on the Golan that the Israelis want, etc.

The Israelis and the Saudis have only one problem to solve before attacking, and that is how to "Pearl Harbor" or "Lusitania" the US into doing the dirty work for them. If you live in an major city in the US, move.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 15:31 | 4162946 Jack Burton
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kchrisc, +100, You have nailed it. Such is the case! We American people will pay the price. Both in the false flag terror attack and in the war our kids will be made to fight for Israel's greater power and glory. After all, god set them up as his chosen, America is obligated to fight on god's side.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 15:32 | 4162950 snodgrass
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Iran has some new friends - the Chinese and Russians. The attack on Libya and proposed on Iran is about derailing Gasprom. I don't think the Russians will let that happen.

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