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The Onion Revealed As Mystery Source Of Larry Summers' And Paul Krugman's Economic Insight

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The following brief speech by Larry Summers given at the November 8 IMF Economic forum has been getting some attention in the blogosphere over the weekend.

The topic of Summers' speech is the age-old debate of how to overcome the zero lower bound in which the global economy has, reflexively, found itself in over the past five years (today more than ever, with $160 billion in monthly flow from the Fed and BOJ for now, and the ECB joining soon) which incidentally is the outcome of 100 years of monetary distortions resulting from central banking and which has led to a perverted state in which the global economy is unable to revert to its trendline absent the perpetual reflation of new, bigger and better asset bubbles. "Reflexively", because the "solution" to the problem merely makes it even worse, but we doubt even 5 more years of global QE will be enough for the world's tenured economists and Nobel prize winners to figure that out.

Summers' recommendation is simple: boost inflation (presumably through NGDP targeting, the same thing we said back in September would happen soon, which would unanchor 2% inflationary expectations as money literally dropped from the sky), and encourage a cashless society allowing the Fed to punish all deposit account holders through negative rates (or outright confiscation) forcing massive spending (see the Cyprus deposit confiscation and the subsequent London real-estate mega bubble as an example).

Of course, as any rational person understands very well, the above core problem will never be fixed unless the monetary excesses accumulated in the post Bretton-Woods era and mostly over the past three decades - beginning with Greenspan's Great Moderation and ending with Yellen's "I see dead bubbles" speech - are purged through liquidationist policies that allow the world's balance sheet to revert to viable model. Unfortunately, at this point it is far too late to do "the right thing", and the Fed is stuck with just one option: reflate or bust, because even the smallest risk price correction could spiral out of control and end the world's biggest experiment in central planning.

There is nothing magical about this, and anyone who has even the faintest inkling of how traditional restructurings and reorgs work will tell you as much.

Which means certainly not Nobel prize winner Paul Krugman. For this "doctor" of voodoonomics, Larry Summers' speech is profound and deep for the simple reason that Summers promotes the same policy that none other than Krugman proposed back in 2002, and whose implementation nearly resulted in the end of finance as we know it. Recall from a 2002 NYT editorial:

To fight this recession the Fed needs…soaring household spending to offset moribund business investment. Alan Greenspan needs to create a housing bubble to replace the Nasdaq bubble.

Well, now Mr. Yellen needs to create the bubble of all bubbles to replace the housing (and credit) bubble which replaced the Nasdaq bubble and so on. And she is doing just that.

Which obviously is earning instapraise from Krugs:

We now know that the economic expansion of 2003-2007 was driven by a bubble. You can say the same about the latter part of the 90s expansion; and you can in fact say the same about the later years of the Reagan expansion, which was driven at that point by runaway thrift institutions and a large bubble in commercial real estate.... how can you reconcile repeated bubbles with an economy showing no sign of inflationary pressures? Summers’s answer is that we may be an economy that needs bubbles just to achieve something near full employment that in the absence of bubbles the economy has a negative natural rate of interest.

 

In other words, you can argue that our economy has been trying to get into the liquidity trap for a number of years, and that it only avoided the trap for a while thanks to successive bubbles.

 

And if that’s how you see things, when looking forward you have to regard the liquidity trap not as an exceptional state of affairs but as the new normal.

Bottom line: the US economy can't "grow" without bubbles, so we need a bubble.

In principle that's great. The only problem is that the bubble reflation and bursting process always and without fail is destructive to those people who live within their means, and rewards those who spend like drunken sailors, who engage in reckless economic behavior, who build up massive debt burdens which can never be repaid, who misallocate capital and resources, and who become too big to fail and are allowed to hold the entire global economy hostage. For a great example of all of the above, see 2008.

We can assure everyone that the next bubble bursting process will be orders of magnitude worse, as yet another bubble will have to be reflated just to compensate for the Nasdaq, housing, credit and whatever it is that the current bubble is called: the Bernanke/Yellen double down, all-in gamble.

Sadly, the downside is the loss of the reserve currency status of the dollar: something economists are completely unable to grasp, but which China, and its 100 tons of monthly gold imports understands very well.

 


 

However, none of the above is the actual topic of this post: we will leave it to others to debate the idiocy of summoning yet another bubble to fix the disastrous consequences brought upon by previous bubbles.

What we did want to highlight is that it now has become perfectly clear just what the source is of "profound" insight for such brilliant economists as Summers and Krugman. That source is... The Onion. In this case from July 18, 2008.

From Recession-Plagued Nation Demands New Bubble To Invest In

WASHINGTON—A panel of top business leaders testified before Congress about the worsening recession Monday, demanding the government provide Americans with a new irresponsible and largely illusory economic bubble in which to invest.

 

"What America needs right now is not more talk and long-term strategy, but a concrete way to create more imaginary wealth in the very immediate future," said Thomas Jenkins, CFO of the Boston-area Jenkins Financial Group, a bubble-based investment firm. "We are in a crisis, and that crisis demands an unviable short-term solution."

 

The current economic woes, brought on by the collapse of the so-called "housing bubble," are considered the worst to hit investors since the equally untenable dot-com bubble burst in 2001. According to investment experts, now that the option of making millions of dollars in a short time with imaginary profits from bad real-estate deals has disappeared, the need for another spontaneous make-believe source of wealth has never been more urgent.

 

"Perhaps the new bubble could have something to do with watching movies on cell phones," said investment banker Greg Carlisle of the New York firm Carlisle, Shaloe & Graves. "Or, say, medicine, or shipping. Or clouds. The manner of bubble isn't important—just as long as it creates a hugely overvalued market based on nothing more than whimsical fantasy and saddled with the potential for a long-term accrual of debts that will never be paid back, thereby unleashing a ripple effect that will take nearly a decade to correct."

 

"The U.S. economy cannot survive on sound investments alone," Carlisle added.

 

Congress is currently considering an emergency economic-stimulus measure, tentatively called the Bubble Act, which would order the Federal Reserve to† begin encouraging massive private investment in some fantastical financial scheme in order to get the nation's false economy back on track.

 

Current bubbles being considered include the handheld electronics bubble, the undersea-mining-rights bubble, and the decorative office-plant bubble. Additional options include speculative trading in fairy dust—which lobbyists point out has the advantage of being an entirely imaginary commodity to begin with—and a bubble based around a hypothetical, to-be-determined product called "widgets."

 

The most support thus far has gone toward the so-called paper bubble. In this appealing scenario, various privately issued pieces of paper, backed by government tax incentives but entirely worthless, would temporarily be given grossly inflated artificial values and sold to unsuspecting stockholders by greedy and unscrupulous entrepreneurs.

 

"Little pieces of paper are the next big thing," speculator Joanna Nadir, of Falls Church, VA said. "Just keep telling yourself that. If enough people can be talked into thinking it's legitimate, it will become temporarily true."

 

Demand for a new investment bubble began months ago, when the subprime mortgage bubble burst and left the business world without a suitable source of pretend income. But as more and more time has passed with no substitute bubble forthcoming, investors have begun to fear that the worst-case scenario—an outcome known among economists as "real-world repercussions"—may be inevitable.

 

"Every American family deserves a false sense of security," said Chris Reppto, a risk analyst for Citigroup in New York. "Once we have a bubble to provide a fragile foundation, we can begin building pyramid scheme on top of pyramid scheme, and before we know it, the financial situation will return to normal."

 

Despite the overwhelming support for a new bubble among investors, some in Washington are critical of the idea, calling continued reliance on bubble-based economics a mistake. Regardless of the outcome of this week's congressional hearings, however, one thing will remain certain: The calls for a new bubble are only going to get louder.

 

"America needs another bubble," said Chicago investor Bob Taiken. "At this point, bubbles are the only thing keeping us afloat."

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What can we say in conclusion but... Krugmerica: where satire is now cutting edge economic thought.

h/t @reinman_mt

 

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Sun, 11/17/2013 - 19:41 | 4163537 JustObserving
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I vote for a gold and silver bubble.. We have tried all others - housing, stocks, bonds, medical care, pharmaceuticals, baltic dry index, tulips, beanie babies, drugs, e-commerce, social-media,  bitcoin, corruption etc.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 19:43 | 4163567 DoChenRollingBearing
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Bitcoin Bubble too?  Beginning Bitcoin Bearing (No-)Brainz want to know!

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 21:55 | 4163879 knukles
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Jeez...
Am I glad I didn't read "Knukles" in there alongside Summers and Krugman. That'd be embarrassing.

PS... Paul, Larry, my dog's name is Bubbles

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 22:12 | 4163921 remain calm
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I am predicting the next bubble to pop will be the Viagra bubble. After everyone is thoroughly screwed there will be no one else to fuck. Next up the cigarrete bubble.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 01:45 | 4164290 Scarlett
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there are books about the hot girls of weimar berlin and the documentary Sin Cities: Berlin, where flesh ran amok for a gold-backed banknote

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 22:26 | 4163952 SafelyGraze
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first, let's all agree to call it a martingale, not a bubble

second, everyone knows that it's ok to double down forever as long as you have an infinite bankroll

third, I have an infinite bankroll

hugs,
mister yellens 

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 19:44 | 4163573 medium giraffe
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pmsl!

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 19:49 | 4163591 uncle.bigs
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We already had a gold and silver bubble and they topped at $1,900 and $49 respectively.  Looks like somebody forgot to sell.  LOL

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 21:30 | 4163838 old naughty
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sh't, that's the past belief of the pharaohs (or was it the aliens), no?

so we are backwardation living now?

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 21:45 | 4163863 NOZZLE
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Blue Horseshoe likes abortion pill futures. 

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 01:18 | 4164271 merizobeach
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Are you for eighty-six-ing Larry?

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 22:03 | 4163899 Seeking Aphids
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Looks like somebody forgot that we changed centuries a while ago.............

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 03:06 | 4164363 SilverSavant
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Look for some big round numbers to tell you when the pm bubble has maxed out.   That would be 10,000 in gold and 1,000 in silver.   until then, keep carrying it around in small boats. 

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 03:41 | 4164393 saveandsound
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hmmm, to me $1,900 and $49 look more like a bump in the road.

However, since we don't know the future, what do we know? Yellen is going to print more money, at least that seems to be certain. When this train stops, PM probably get under the bus as well as all other assets. But when will that be and where are prices then? And who knows if "they" won't put the train under steam very quickly again.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 20:01 | 4163609 bunzbunzbunz
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At what point in the bubble deflation do you stop buying into it/sell it? I know I'm not planning on buying gold or silver until gold is back to around inflation adjusted norms = currently $600-800 depending on your view of inflation.

I work for food; anything helps: 12Yk63ehLkvodMCS5J687w7EKUdQs1AjXM

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 03:45 | 4164396 saveandsound
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Interesting chart, but imho there is the longterm, logorathmic average missing.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 20:04 | 4163612 MontgomeryScott
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YAY, 'Bubbles'!

"Behind his seemingly-perfect life of glamorous friends, gold-plated tyre swings, and personal chefs, there is a dark history of medical experiments, addiction and loss. But Bubbles has fought against his personal and professional problems and, with his help of man-pet Michael Jackson, he has grown to become bigger than King Kong—figuratively speaking."

Larry 'Bubbles' Summers, and Paul 'Bubbles' Krugman, notwithstanding, seem to fit the description well!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubbles_the_chimpanzee

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 20:05 | 4163619 hmmmstrange
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Gold and silver had their bubble from 2000 to 2011 and it didn't work out too great.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 21:15 | 4163800 JamesBond
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gold and silver have been repeatedly smacked down via fed orders because they were threatening US fiat currency domination.  when the US dollar finally collapses, its PMs to the moon and back

 

 

jb

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 21:28 | 4163832 stacking12321
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looks like you don't understand what the word bubble means.

something is a bubble when it's extensively owned, traded, and sought-after, and acheived market saturation. like when the shoe shine boy at the train station is giving you stock tips.

in the us, what % of people own actual investment grade gold and silver? 5%?

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 22:17 | 4163932 Vendetta
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"in the us, what % of people own actual investment grade gold and silver? 5%"   more like < 1%

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 21:03 | 4163777 Burticus
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No, J.O., gold is reserved for the "ultimate bubble," as stated by George Soros.  As all of the other bubbles burst, particularly the currency bubble as the sheeple lose all faith in fiat paper/cybercurrencies, there will be a panic stampede into hard assets, especially hard money, gold & silver.

Make sure you are "all in" physical gold and/or silver before this happens.  When gold finally reaches its insane bubbly maximum, it will be time to convert it into ridiculously under valued assets, whatever they may be.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 19:33 | 4163539 johnQpublic
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cant tell where onion ends and reality begins

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 20:10 | 4163626 F-Tipp
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They are years ahead of their time. I still don't believe they are a humor site.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 21:12 | 4163795 WOAR
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Like the newspapers from Men in Black?

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 21:59 | 4163886 knukles
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Ah, yes...
The Nairobi Times

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 23:54 | 4164123 gdogus erectus
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That's right.  No better way to discredit the truth than to put it into The Inquirer mixed in with "Joan Collins Ate My Baby!" stories.

 

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 00:37 | 4164202 putaipan
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badly re-photoshopping the original authentic document works... ask dan rather. (never cared enough to decide if that was what they did tto the birth certificate)

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 22:01 | 4163893 rp1
Sun, 11/17/2013 - 20:27 | 4163672 TeamDepends
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"Joanna Nadir", "Chris Reppto".  Classic!

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 19:33 | 4163541 nmewn
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A platinum coin stamped One Trillion Dollars in every pot!!! 

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 19:38 | 4163546 aVileRat
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A long standing and running joke at the Dallas Fed and amongst energy industry specialists who had the 'privilege' to meet Larry is that Larry was an epic troll of Phoenix Wakeen or Colbert proportions. The theory goes that Larry, having realized his chances of becoming Secretary or Chairman were pooched after the Harvard Endowment fiasco (both Madoff & Subprime scandals) just decided to go full retard. If he could not become the man he wanted, at least his legacy would be as a national Lampoon going into the dollar crunch as a psduo-Bagheot.

 

Larry, if your paid 23 year old Harvard assistant still reads the comment section, keep reaching for that Shiny star you crazy miffed nutjob, you.

 

 

 

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 19:37 | 4163550 Robot Traders Mom
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"The Onion Revealed As Mystery Source Of Larry Summers' And Paul Krugman's Economic Insight"

 

-No, I won't make a joke about whether this is real or not...because I'm not sure. 

 

 

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 19:44 | 4163568 bankonzhongguo
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I thought I would be kidding, but it seems Weed (cannabis) is poised to be a great domestic bubble.

Came back from an actual bookstore, which had six different magazines dedicated to getting high.

The hilarious thing about these economists is that they expect consumers to spend all their money to support these bubbles, yet now it seems wages are deflating for some time both in terms of the promise of globalization and encouraged illegal immigration.

If the middle classes are on their way down and out, then it seems more than likely the hot money will go toward their continued and enhanced medication.

Have to turn them into zombies to avoid a bloody revolution.

Seems the democrats really failed to augment that reality and not support California's full de-criminalization. I guess the for-profit prison industry pays better than big tobacco.

Expect Obama/Holder to announce a federal pass on all things cannabis. 

Happy New Year full-baked Amerikans.

Long Magic Flight Launch Box.

 

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 19:52 | 4163597 uncle.bigs
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In Washington a small city government is applying to own a marijuana store.  Canabis stores will be opening all over the state in January.  LOL

 

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2013/11/north...

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 20:08 | 4163623 MontgomeryScott
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Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmW-ScmGRMA

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 04:19 | 4164413 Nobody For President
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Greenie for that - I actually lived in North Bonneville in 1946-47, right after WWII when my Dad went back to working in the woods after spending the war years in a shipyard in Portland. I was a wee little first grader to third grader at Skamainia and later Stevenson - N. Bonneville didn't have a school. Glad to see they are leading the way in legal pot, wish my parent were around to enjoy that news...

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 19:45 | 4163572 lizzy36
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Inflation is just "status quo" acceptable default.

Of course at first hurts the poorest, now after 25 years it is killing the middle class. 

What an exceptional society.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 19:45 | 4163575 Uncle Remus
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That's lending entirely too much credibility to those two deviant butt-plugs.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 19:45 | 4163576 jim249
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WASHINGTON—A panel of top business leaders testified before Congress about the worsening recession Monday, demanding the government provide Americans with a new irresponsible and largely illusory economic bubble in which to invest.

Bitcoin?????

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 19:48 | 4163586 The Reich
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It's no bubble if it's overtaken by an even bigger bubble!

 

/newspeak

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 21:29 | 4163834 booboo
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correct, an economy predicated on a continous bubbles, each one front run by the market makers until the last penny is squeezed out of the butt crack of some Kansas dirt farmers widow.  

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 20:02 | 4163610 rtalcott
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Jesus H 'effing Keerist...I could not get past 30 seconds...what bullshit...if you want to listen to an academic with something to say dial up Leonard Susskind on youtube..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Susskind

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 20:09 | 4163625 NoDebt
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Until it stops working (for them) they will never stop.  All levers have been pushed into the "run until failure" position.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 20:18 | 4163643 DOGGONE
Sun, 11/17/2013 - 20:19 | 4163650 andyupnorth
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The only way to have inflation now is to drop money from helicopters to the masses. However, banksters would never do that... they're too used to giving only to themselves free money!

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 20:20 | 4163651 toe
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We need QT(quantitative tightening) It hasnt worked for 5 years because the wealth is so concretred, people have no money to spend, big companies and banks are hoarding all the cash. gdp been stagnant. give the money back to the people and they will spend it and the economy will grow. the rich are so fucking greedy that they are going to bring down the whole system. something not working, do the opposite. for 99% of the people there financial health is not measured by the sp500. people need jobs, higher pay, more hours, more jobs in america. these economist are living inside of history books. open your fucking eyes. your killing this nation. 

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 20:33 | 4163685 DavidC
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Why do I always feel, with Larry Summers, that the eyes are open but the brain's asleep?

DavidC

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 20:53 | 4163744 medium giraffe
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That's when it's at its most dangerous.  Its rudimentary higher functions are clearly working very hard on a plan. 

Do you know where your wallet is?

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 20:36 | 4163696 q99x2
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They need to move to BitCoin and the military needs to put the Central Bankers and CEOs of Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Citibank, Bank of America and Wells Fargo into prison along with their puppet politicians. Once freed from the tyranny of bankers the economy and the people will become productive and vibrant enough to face tomorrow's challenges. The universe has laws that must be adhered to for existence to continue. Attempts to circumvent the law to enforce the will of man end in catastrophe and have always ended in catastrophe.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 20:37 | 4163701 PhysicalRealm
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OT but wonderful:   #AskJPM . . . Hilarity Ensues   

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2013/11/askjpm-hilarity-ensues/  

and more from George Washington:  

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/11/jp-morgan-tries-hand-social-media...

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 20:43 | 4163718 Al Huxley
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I remember reading the original article, it's always nice to revisit stuff like that after it turns out to be true.  'Raising Hope' did a pretty good parody of current FED policy as well, with their 'Bert Bucks' local economy - everybody gets the absurdity, it's just that its in the interest of those who benefit from it to keep some minimal charade of credibility around it, at least for now. 

 

Maybe someday Wall Street and their academic sycophant ass-kissing courtiers like Krugman will drop the charade completely and just start stealing outright, once it becomes apparent that they're no longer fooling ANYONE.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 20:55 | 4163754 logicalman
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I think my brain just melted!

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 21:12 | 4163794 StychoKiller
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Take some Corruptol™, you'll be up and screaming in no time! :>D

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 21:19 | 4163808 ISEEIT
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To me what's sincerely most tragic about this is the FACT that were 95%+ of the American population to encounter this article in a 'media' source (ministry of truth?), 99% of those would not even read it. Those remaining would consider it as authentic information for processing/'reality' assesment purposes.

We're F^*ked.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 21:57 | 4163883 joego1
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American needs congress to pass the "Shovel Ready Affordable Bubble Act" without delay.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 22:05 | 4163903 Bazza McKenzie
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 "Additional options include speculative trading in fairy dust—which lobbyists point out has the advantage of being an entirely imaginary commodity to begin with" -- so Bitcoin was also forseen by The Onion.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 08:48 | 4164556 Non Passaran
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I'm sure many here wouldn't mind to have a handful of said dust.... that's now almost 30 times more expensive than silver dust.

It is insane, but it's also happening.

Sun, 11/17/2013 - 23:08 | 4164051 shovelhead
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Larry Summers reminds me of Fat Bastard pinching off a 'rosebud'.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 03:15 | 4164372 John_Coltrane
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What we really need is a complex currency with both real and imaginary components (expressed as R + i*P, where i is the sqrt(-1)).  Its only convertible by taking its absolute value (square root of the complex number times its complex congugate).  Otherwise the imaginary component will dominate (just like in all bubbles) and thus make any inflation in the real part moot.  Your banker can advise you, "sorry, sir, but your savings balance is now completely imaginary" when the crash finally comes and at least you'll both share a good laugh.

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