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"Dark Web" Exposes $75,000 Bitcoin-Based Bounty For Bernanke's Assassination

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As Silk Road emerged from the "dark-web", other sites have appeared offering services that are frowned upon by most. As Forbes reports, perhaps the most-disturbing is "The Assassination Market" run by a pseudnymous Kuwabatake Sanjuro. The site, remarkably, a crowdfunding service that lets anyone anonymously contribute bitcoins towards a bounty on the head of any government official–a kind of Kickstarter for political assassinations. As Forbes reports, NSA Director Alexander and President Obama have a BTC40 bounty (~$24,000) but the highest bounty - perhaps not entirely surprising - is BTC 124.14 (~$75,000) for none other than Ben Bernanke. Sanjuro's raison d'etre is chilling, "as a few politicians gets offed and they realize they’ve lost the war on privacy, the killings can stop and we can transition to a phase of peace, privacy and laissez-faire."

 

Via Forbes,

As Bitcoin becomes an increasingly popular form of digital cash, the cryptocurrency is being accepted in exchange for everything from socks to sushi to heroin. If one anarchist has his way, it’ll soon be used to buy murder, too.

 

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For now, the site’s rewards are small but not insignificant. In the four months that Assassination Market has been online, six targets have been submitted by users, and bounties have been collected ranging from ten bitcoins for the murder of NSA director Keith Alexander and 40 bitcoins for the assassination of President Barack Obama to 124.14 bitcoins–the largest current bounty on the site–targeting Ben Bernanke, chairman of the Federal Reserve and public enemy number one for many of Bitcoin’s anti-banking-system users. At Bitcoin’s current rapidly rising exchanges rate, that’s nearly $75,000 for Bernanke’s would-be killer.

 

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Sanjuro’s grisly ambitions go beyond raising the funds to bankroll a few political killings. He believes that if Assassination Market can persist and gain enough users, it will eventually enable the assassinations of enough politicians that no one would dare to hold office. He says he intends Assassination Market to destroy “all governments, everywhere.”

 

I believe it will change the world for the better,” writes Sanjuro, who shares his handle with the nameless samurai protagonist in the Akira Kurosawa film “Yojimbo.” (He tells me he chose it in homage to creator of the online black market Silk Road, who called himself the Dread Pirate Roberts, as well Bitcoin inventor Satoshi Nakamoto.)  ”Thanks to this system, a world without wars, dragnet panopticon-style surveillance, nuclear weapons, armies, repression, money manipulation, and limits to trade is firmly within our grasp for but a few bitcoins per person. I also believe that as soon as a few politicians gets offed and they realize they’ve lost the war on privacy, the killings can stop and we can transition to a phase of peace, privacy and laissez-faire.”

 

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Like other so-called “dark web” sites, Assassination Market runs on the anonymity network Tor, which is designed to prevent anyone from identifying the site’s users or Sanjuro himself.

 

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As for technically proving that an assassin is responsible for a target’s death, Assassination Market asks its killers to create a text file with the date of the death ahead of time, and to use a cryptographic function known as a hash to convert it to a unique string of characters.

 

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“I am a crypto-anarchist,” Sanjuro concludes. “We have a bright future ahead of us.”

Read more here...

Of course - this will likely be another reason for TPTB to ban bitcoin...

The reporter contacted the Secret Service and the FBI to ask if they’re investigating Assassination Market, and both declined to comment.

 

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Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:33 | 4165406 All Out Of Bubblegum
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Just in time for today's Senate hearings on Bitcoin. How convenient.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:34 | 4165412 0b1knob
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Exactly.  False flags are flying.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:40 | 4165442 Ignatius
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Nobody would ever think of placing a bounty in any other currency. /sarc

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:45 | 4165469 FuzzyDunlop21
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I just realized Ben's middle name is literally Shalom. I thought that was a fucking joke!! Barrack Hussein, Ben Shalom. Fuckers gotta taunt us

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:54 | 4165509 Pladizow
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Has this been crowd funded?

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:57 | 4165524 wallstreetapost...
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Bit coins are totally the "new" tulip.  up up and away.....

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:11 | 4165580 tsx500
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BTC>1000 by Christmas !

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:18 | 4165616 Gen. Keith Alexander
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Come and get me, bitches!

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:25 | 4165642 tsx500
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well, so far, it appears the BTC market doesn't give a rat's ass about this obvious 'hit job' OR about the senate 'hearings'  as the price just hit $670 (and will probably be over 700 by the time i finish my comment !)

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:36 | 4165683 ejmoosa
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These senators do not even understand the US dollar, or basic economics.

Now they are going to tackle Bitcoin?

This should be good.

Which official will ask about the Bitcoin mine inspections?

 

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:56 | 4165753 dryam
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Odd, why would there be a bounty when I'm sure there's plenty of people who would do it for free. That's a total waste of good earned bit coin.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:04 | 4165807 knukles
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Hey, relax.

Nothing the CFTC can't oversee

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:14 | 4165862 kralizec
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It's all just BS if nobody collects...

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:26 | 4165916 linniepar
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Singing... "I got fffffive on it"

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:36 | 4165938 CH1
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This is a rehash of Jim Bell's Assassination Politics.

I'm not taking it very seriously.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:51 | 4166052 MeMadMax
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Pretty much too late to "regulate", outlaw, or pretty much try to dismantle Bitcoin.

 

Cat's outta the bag, and if you take out Bit, there are other similar currencies ready and willing to take bitcoins' place...

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 15:06 | 4166128 wintermute
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tsx500: it's already $760 in China!

 

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 15:22 | 4166193 Hobbleknee
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The "Market" is actually a gambling pool, where participants predict when the subject will die.  Everyone who guesses the correct date will share the pool.  Of course this has implications that you can conclude yourself, but it is not exactly as Forbes described it.  

The current pot for Bernanke is 124.14 bitcoins.

You can see for yourself on the actual site: https://assmkedzgorodn7o.onion.lu/

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 15:30 | 4166226 Hobbleknee
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P.S.  Betting on celebrity deaths is nothing new in Las Vegas, so of course the timing for this article is convenient, as other have noted.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:37 | 4165958 Meat Hammer
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Man, the CIA comes up with some good ideas. This Assassination Market plan to get the sheeple scared of the idea that Bitcoin = Bogey Men is brilliant.  I wonder who'll they'll false flag to prove it.  Bernanke can go...we gots Yellen the Felon.

More proof that we'll never be trusted with freedom.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 15:00 | 4166088 So What
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you're right. but currency has become the new battle field, and the chinese and russian will support bitcoin as the american and european try to kill it. russian and chinese market will start to accept bitcoin more and the Fed and Eurocentral bank will print and short bitcoins, just like gold. Until the dollar is dumped and yuan is back by gold. Expect more shits undreamed of to come out.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 15:07 | 4166138 tsx500
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plz explain how fed can/will 'print & short' btc ... ?

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 15:46 | 4166278 So What
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Fact: Fed has been printing trillions of dollars out of thin air, giving to their buddies, foreign banks etc.
Fact: Fed balance sheet is unaudited by independent observers. Who know what the fuck they do there.

Fact: gold can be borrowed, purchased etc.
Fact: recent gold dumping does against all reasons, $600 mil in matters of minutes.
Fact: gold price is based on paper price, not supplies or demands, or cost of extraction etc. Trading in paper price can be short ad nauseum.

Therefore, with unlimited paper fiat, any commodities anywhere can be suppressed, be it gold , bitcoin.
Wait for the Fed to slamp bitcoin in 3..2....1...

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 15:03 | 4166112 cougar_w
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Freedom is not the issue for the CIA. You can have all the freedom you want so long as you exercise your freedom down at WalMart every Sunday to buy consumer crap on command, and visit Disneyland twice a year on credit.

The only thing the CIA are afraid of is truth, and in particular ungated access to information.

And here I don't mean the watered-down, scripted, corrupting and mind-destroying conspiracy scenarios the CIA invent themselves and pass off as truth. That's the kind of truth that will eat your brain. And yes, I see a great deal of that parroted here at ZH as the truth that will set us free.

Sorry. No. It won't.

It is very hard to get at the actual truth. It has to be, otherwise everyone would know the truth and what we are supposed to do would be abundantly clear. Corporations cannot allow that, nor can governments or media, and they are all working together (though each for their own reasons) to deprive us all of access to the truth by blocking our access to unfiltered information.

This is not going to change. Ever.

Only when corporations, media and government have been effectively and totally destroyed will humans have access to true information about themselves, their species, their environment and our individual and collective relationship to the future.

I am not at all hopeful that such a state can be achieved by concerted action. However it absolutely will be achieved if only via the complete destruction of the global economic system that is providing the blood meal to these sociopathic fictions.

 

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:56 | 4165756 Xibalba
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THe empty suits will do whatever the person holding the biggest bag of money tells them...kinda like a hooker in Vegas.  (offense to Harry balls Reid)

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:57 | 4165766 Bastiat
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Hank Johnson?

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:59 | 4166087 Hobbleknee
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It's a series of tubes!

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:37 | 4165692 fonestar
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There's only 11 million Bitcoins out there, for the capacity that Bitcoin offers smugglers and tax dodgers $1,000 BTC is nothing.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:46 | 4165729 tsx500
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exactly right.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:43 | 4165999 Meat Hammer
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I'd love a chart that shows the increase in Bitcoin-industry job growth over the last 4 years, but damn that anonimity! Nobody can get that info.....not even .gov.  

Tax-free employment paid in an appreciating currency.  I just got a semi-chub.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 19:05 | 4167258 Running On Bing...
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Hey Phone,
Let's just fucking admit it. The Bernank himself put that ad up in the deep web.

The FED is bitCon, and bitCon is the FED.

Over.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:27 | 4165649 Sofa King Confused
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Why settle for the Bernank....Aim higher Rothschild and all his inbred kids

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:08 | 4165751 New World Chaos
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And so it begins.

Back in Jun 2011 I speculated about a secretive cabal of crypto-anarchist geeks with a large fraction of the bitcoins (http://www.zerohedge.com/article/krieger-peak-government).  If BitCoin gets as big as gold, they could have a bigger mischief fund than the Rothschilds.  From the Project Mayhem manifesto:

Now, imagine what will happen after the inevitable hyperinflation, food riots and brutal crackdown.  The government will have lost all legitimacy in the eyes of the people, and everyone will be looking around to see who throws the first Molotov.  Enter BitCoin.  It's just a matter of time until someone posts a YouTube video of a flaming cop car while holding a poster of their BitCoin address.  Only shutting down the internet will stop the distributed anarchist horde from donating.  Word will spread.  Crimminals will target the powerful instead of the middle class.  Eventually the going rate might be .01 BTC per flaming cop car, .1 BTC per flaming cop, 1 BTC per flaming federal building, 100 BTC for a Rothschild dosed with scopolamine and mindfucked into spilling all his dark secrets before he is eaten alive by maggots.  Even this would only be a drop in the horde's ocean of buying power.  I think we are going to have a lot of cypherpunks living in Dubai penthouses surrounded by hookers but wanking to the increasingly creative homebrew snuff porn they finance.

p.s.  Google "Assassination politics".  Just google it.  It's so dangerous, they put Jim Bell on Double Secret Probation (i.e. constant surveillance, IRS up his ass, a juggernaut of legal corruption, and paying inmates to "assault" him during his >10 years in prison).

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:09 | 4165827 LawsofPhysics
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Wake us when those geeks have a well trained army (Like the CIA or The Fed).

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:19 | 4165888 Xibalba
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ROME had a well trained army.  The Barbarians still conquered. 

 

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:33 | 4165951 WOAR
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The Barbarians weren't fat and lazy. They lived because they could pillage.

If you couldn't pillage, you couldn't eat.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 15:11 | 4166157 johnQpublic
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read the assassination politics essay

no wonder bell ended up in jail

whole idea sounds like it would work if enuf people heard about it

surprised they ever let the man out of jail

people are doing life for a whole lot less than that essay

 

 

disclaimer:i do not approve of his message and do not intend to act upon it

dont be worried covert leaders...i'm way to chickenshit to ever do anything ever for any reason

pinky swear

and i'm way to computer illiterate to ever even find the dark net, knight , whatever

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 18:39 | 4167131 CH1
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They lived because they could pillage.

Not true, the "barbarians" farmed and traded. They entered the Roman empire with permission.

However, that's actual history - not schoolbook and Hollywood truth. Sorry.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 15:44 | 4166275 Matt
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That's probably because the vast majority of their army were immigrants related to the barbarians, who had not been integrated into Roman Society and still saw themselves as German.

That, and the hyperinflation and runaway debt made it hard to pay the soldiers, and when you have soldiers who defend their country for a paycheck rather than out of duty, you're in trouble.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 15:19 | 4166070 New World Chaos
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The army will be disgruntled Snake Plissken types who resent being used as bankers' pawns while they were in the special forces.  Apolitical greedy thugs and even the Man's own servants might pad the lower ranks.  The crypto-anarchist cabal could provide intelligence and ensure that the army marches on a full stomach.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:42 | 4165997 Wahooo
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V

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:03 | 4165527 LawsofPhysics
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75,000 bitcoin is only $134.  Most professionals I know would not touch this for under a million.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:05 | 4165551 Uncle Remus
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That was my first thought - this is not a serious tender, irrespective of the payment method.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:23 | 4165637 chunga
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kinda like a 5 dollar bill and a florsheim shoe?

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:28 | 4165653 Uncle Remus
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Upscale - $40 bill, python boot.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 17:01 | 4166656 TheFourthStooge-ing
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...and an overcoat, too.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 18:37 | 4167122 Running On Bing...
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Well, I do hope the aggressor will visit my deep website to get properly outfitted. I sell 'cans', no doc stamps required.

Keep things quiet, very quiet like a high plains drifter.

Over.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:32 | 4165666 MachoMan
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Can't be serious...  as anything with an implication that large would have much more financial incentive to target the larger financial markets for gain than some piddly ass bitcoin reward...  e.g. buying oil futures.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:11 | 4165581 blackholes
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I think you've got that reversed.

134BTC is worth 75,000USD

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:06 | 4165817 LawsofPhysics
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I do, $75,000 for such a contract is still way too low dipshit.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:32 | 4165948 A Lunatic
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Throw in 150 hectares of corn crops at Farmville and it would be doable........

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:42 | 4165995 blackholes
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Not sure why I'm a dipshit for correcting your conversion rate and making zero claims as to whether or not $75,000 is too low for a hit.

I do hope your day gets better, however.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 17:03 | 4166666 painlord-2k
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if BTC go up 100x from now, 7.5 M $ are not peanuts.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 17:55 | 4166925 PT
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So it is some sort of timing mechanism?  Once the price gets high enough, someone will start taking it seriously?

Also, like some kind of chicken game.  If BB (or whoever) watch the price, if they start getting worried, they might start ratting out their handlers in the hope of some leniency.

If this thing takes off, maybe there will be peace in the future as everyone in the world tries to look poor and weak so no-one will put a hit on them...

... actually, I think I'm rambling again ... 

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 18:41 | 4167143 Running On Bing...
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FUCK the math bro, just focus on the deed, done dirt cheap.

Over.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:58 | 4165529 Troll Magnet
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Assassins will be cracking down on other assassins.
.gov HATES competition, boys.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:17 | 4165752 Pegasus Muse
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The reporter contacted the Secret Service and the FBI to ask if they’re investigating Assassination Market, and both declined to comment."

Obviously, the Secret Service and the FBI cannot rat out their CIA Black OPS Hit Team 'associates' nor O'Blamer Drone Assassins ensconced in a comfy Command Center at Hurlburt Field as they rain Hellfire missiles down on Pakistani Civilians.  The O'Blamer Administration would call the whistleblowers Domestic Terrorists and National Security Threats were they to do something so audacious as tell the truth about the government who pays their salaries.  

http://www.my.jobs/virtual-usa/uav-operator/25132252/job/

http://www.glassdoor.com/Job/uav-operator-jobs-SRCH_KO0,12.htm

 

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.” –Upton Sinclair (1878-1968)

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 18:43 | 4167158 Running On Bing...
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FED's not .gov. FED has their own team of assassins( mossad ), remember JFK?

Over.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 18:45 | 4167163 Running On Bing...
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Over?

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 17:15 | 4166733 Dr. Kenneth Noi...
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Shalom hunger, shalom free food!

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:02 | 4165546 Fiat Currency
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An Internet & Bitcoin enabled eGuillotine. 

It gives a whole new meaning to "The People's Choice Awards".

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:36 | 4165965 WillyGroper
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Inverse "Shock Doctrine"?

Dirtier War?

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:45 | 4165468 vmromk
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We should only be so lucky to have Bernanke "offed".

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:54 | 4165507 Anusocracy
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It would be more appropriate to gift him with severe brain damage so he would have a reason for being the gibbering idiot he is.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:04 | 4165555 outamyeffinway
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That's ridiculous. Ever see Mickey Mouse in the magicians lab with the brooms? What a wasted though.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:44 | 4165462 Ignatius
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"And then, Senator, we withnessed the terrorist bitcoiner beat the Chairman to death with a bag of bitcoins.  It was horrible."

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:13 | 4165592 tsx500
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"...beat the Honorable Chairman to death ..."   there, fixed it for 'ya !

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:21 | 4165896 NewAmericaNow
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Just in time for the holidays. Dear Santa, please kill the following politicians.....

What a great stocking stuffer. True peace on earth....after the job is done of course.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:38 | 4165966 rubiconsolutions
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These senate hearings will be interesting to watch if they are held in public. I have a sneaky suspicion that the government will apply the same "don't usurp our turf" on BTC that it did on Bernard von NotHaus.  The government hates competition when it comes to money creation because if they lose control of that then the jig is up. And they can certainly use this assassination thing as an excuse to clamp down.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 16:44 | 4166558 f16hoser
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I, for one, would not Mourn the passing of Osama Ben Bernanke.

 

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 20:41 | 4166694 JuliaS
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The problem with this market is that anyone with money can take advantage of it. Think of how much money regular political campaigns cost. A typical candidate would have enough cash at his disposal to off every single rival.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:37 | 4165423 SheepDog-One
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Kill the Bernank? Inconceivable! 

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:51 | 4165495 ghengis86
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I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:29 | 4165930 Jumbotron
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Market forces at play.

How does it feel Bernanke?

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:37 | 4165424 Seasmoke
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I think you able to get Bitcoins in Guatanamo. 

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:06 | 4165560 Uncle Remus
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"deep packet inspection"

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:37 | 4165425 OwnSilverPlayMusic
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Will we ever learn that cutting of one head of a hydra is merely a fool's errand?  Oh I mean, I'm morally outraged and so forth.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:51 | 4165494 Zadig
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Exactly.  Corrupt, incompetent bankers are not exactly an endangered species. 

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:29 | 4165655 john39
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nor the politicians who do their bidding.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:57 | 4166077 tvdog
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Both bankers and politicians would be a lot scarcer if those jobs were more dangerous.

After all, the Israeli army is not known for its bravery.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:38 | 4165427 6th of May
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These idiots are going to harm virtual currencies

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:52 | 4165501 Zadig
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It's probably the reason Forbes covered it. 

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:56 | 4165513 SpiceMustFlow
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These idiots are going to harm libertarians and anarchocapitalists that adhere to the nonaggression principle and refuse to engage in statist tactics of violence and coercion...still...sounds like something out of Snow Crash or Diamond Age...

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:42 | 4165992 InspectorBird
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harm? how? i thought bitcoin was govt proof, indestructible and manipulation proof, also super anonymous... the only way to harm bitcoin is to shut down the whole internet, or so i heard time and time again...

/sarc

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 19:07 | 4167275 Running On Bing...
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"These idiots are going to harm virtual currencies"

You mean the BTC cheerleaders?

I agree.

Over.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:38 | 4165428 Cacete de Ouro
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A know a nice tunnel Bernanke can hide in, its just under 33 Liberty between the New York Fed and JP Morgan Chase

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:55 | 4165510 papaswamp
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Thought the Chinese bought it with their bit coins... Wait a minute!

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:52 | 4165430 Hulk
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Comment removed due to doorknocking...

/ besides, me and Victor killed two rats last night, so I am still in training...

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:39 | 4165434 Seer
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Nothing says unleash the Kraken like threatening to stomp on TPTB.

Buckminster Fuller put it best when he stated that you cannot change an existing system, that it's better to create another one and make the old one obsolete.

There are limited Bitcoins.  Who do you think that the masses are going to kick down the doors for?

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:39 | 4165435 rlouis
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Sanjuro's raison d'etre is chilling, "as a few politicians gets offed and they realize they’ve lost the war on privacy, the killings can stop and we can transition to a phase of peace, privacy and laissez-faire."

 

Yes, it is chilling, but the logic appears irrefutable. When the law is not enforced against criminals, when criminals have taken over the social institutions, is there any other option for a civilization on the brink of collapse?

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:57 | 4165520 the grateful un...
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following your thought into the political system, suppose the voters decided to throw out the two parties we have, suppose the Demopublicans saw their side losing 1/3 of the seats in Congress to alternative parties, what would happen? you would suddenly see the weasels change into third party candidates, Pelosi would join Greens, Boehner the Tea Party etc etc, and the lobbyists would just chuckle, they wouldnt even have to change the numbers on their speed dial.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:22 | 4165633 exi1ed0ne
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National elections and World Wide Wrestling have much in common.  Fantasy to entertain the masses, and there are still people out there who are convinced they are real.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:41 | 4165990 WillyGroper
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Lieberman has led the charge.

Sidewinders.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:59 | 4165534 Seer
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One could use one's energy to create a future world.

Civilization is going to collapse regardless, as it's based on a totally unsustainable premise (perpetual growth on a finite planet).

Assassinations is what THEY do.

You can kill people who beilieve in certain things, but you cannot kill an idea.  Move away from the "idea," show a better solution and folks will forget that [previous] "idea."

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:43 | 4165710 29.5 hours
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Civilization in its best sense may not collapse as long as we have people defending civilized sentiments and perspectives--like speaking against assassinations, no matter how merited.

On the other hand, our political and economic systems are headed toward collapse and good riddance. The cost may be high but not prohibitive.

 

 

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:27 | 4165918 NihilistZero
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Civilization is going to collapse regardless, as it's based on a totally unsustainable premise (perpetual growth on a finite planet).

No this is what TPTB system is built on.  Civilility is no a part of their system...  And ultimately the only sustainable future for our species is among the stars.  I desperately hope to see the warp drive developed in my lifetime...

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:57 | 4166076 Jumbotron
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"No this is what TPTB system is built on.  Civilility is no a part of their system...  And ultimately the only sustainable future for our species is among the stars.  I desperately hope to see the warp drive developed in my lifetime..."

LOL !!!!   Are you SERIOUS ????

We'll just carry our inate corruption / sin to the stars with us.

Better to just let our virus die out in our own Solar System than to infect the rest of the galaxy.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 15:02 | 4166101 tvdog
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Read your Heinlein. There will always be a frontier where liberty prevails.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 16:12 | 4166396 Anusocracy
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That is how America came about.

The collectivists stayed in the collective and the individualists came to America.

Of course, after it was up and running and successful, the collectivists came too.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:15 | 4165602 Dr. Bonzo
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This is exactly correct. Just because everyone in the power structure has become rotted-to-the-bone with syphilitic urges to abuse the authority of their office doesn't mean there still aren't forthright men of honor slowly simmering with quiet indignation at the dismantling of our society; they're kindling all the wroooooong fires at the wrooooong time.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:39 | 4165698 Acet
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A crowdfunded way of offing the top criminals inside the system seems like a far safer thing for everybody involved (except the above-mentioned criminals) than having a revolution to try and change the system.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:48 | 4165735 semperfi
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"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." 

--Thomas Jefferson

 

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

-- Thomas Jefferson

 


"When the people fear the government you have tyranny.  When the government fears the people you have liberty."

-- Thomas Jefferson

 

“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.”

-- Abraham Lincoln

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:40 | 4165437 papaswamp
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Well that explains the meteoric rise in price....

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:40 | 4165444 seek
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Someone should make the same offer in USD so they can justify banning them, too.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:45 | 4165446 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Fear mongering. Nothing new under the sun here just a crypto-currency version of celebrity death pool betting. Only mistake is not having a book maker attach odds to each person there. If the FEDS do what I think they will do they will try to trace the coins back to the people and charge them individually if they can't get at people and sites running this.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:02 | 4165547 Seer
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Bitcoins are exchanged how?

The NSA's main playground is? (and they work for?)

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:19 | 4165593 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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I can exchange coins outside the system with no bank accounts or through shell setups and straw men. There is nothing new under the sun just the technology changes. The NSA is nothing more than a technology construct under the guise of an institution. Same shit different system. If you can't see the forest for the trees then I don't know what to tell you. Nobody is omnipotent and institutions are just groups of individuals. If the people are universally not omnipotent neither are the institutions. Rule number #1 of human based systems. They are subject to the same limitations and human behavior doesn't change in each technological and institutional iteration.

The answer was always there in front of everyone's faces to see if you bother to stop looking outward for answers.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:41 | 4165450 Dr. Engali
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This is a sure sign that bit coin must be regulated to death.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:08 | 4165572 Seer
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I doubt that they'll be able to regulate it.  Most likely it'll be outright banned.  Yet another thing to declare war on...

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:20 | 4165628 ParkAveFlasher
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Napster, bitchez!

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:41 | 4165451 FuzzyDunlop21
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for some perspective, it takes the Bernank 2 seconds to print that much monopoly money

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 20:43 | 4167664 JuliaS
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If QE went directly into this fund, there'd be enough money to depopulate the entire US within a month.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:41 | 4165453 yogibear
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It's the Federal Reserve bankster mafia against the 99%. The Federal Reserve won't tolerate other competing financial gangs.

You have to think of what the current Fed is. A group of financial mobsters.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 15:01 | 4166100 frenzic
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with an army

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:44 | 4165457 Heiman Van Rock...
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Not that I'm advocating it, but they are going after the wrong guy, check the city of london hangout of the Rothschilds, and from there, the road may lead you straight to the jesuits.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:52 | 4165475 SMG
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No that's wrong.  The top of the pyramid is a small council of Luciferian Oligarchs picked from the royal families of the elite.   Everything else is below them, including the jesuits.

Even if you got all of them, other people would be picked to replace them under great secrecy.

I think the only way to do this, is to throw out the Oligarch's system and replace it with something honest.  Like an asset based currency to start with.  Balanced budget amendments everywhere would be a great idea too.

Also making sure everyone knows there are puppetmasters behind the curtain, an how they operate.

Some have woken up to this fact, but not enough.  We need everyone to understand.

That's the only way to win. 

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:51 | 4165497 FieldingMellish
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crab people

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:56 | 4165516 Heiman Van Rock...
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You haven't studied history, and your comment about balanced budgets shows your complete ignorance of Jurisdiction, and how our government actually works.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:33 | 4165668 11b40
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Tell me please, just how are our governments actually working?  Where in the world are there properly functioning governments?  How are they supposed to work, and who "should" be the beneficiaries of all this government "work"?

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 14:46 | 4166029 123dobryden
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i think he meant legislating balance budget=legislating prosperity, it doesnt work....i believe the problem lies with power, it should be dispersed not concentrated, that leads to corruption, yet every single human being, every single institution on this planet wants more power, some excel some dont...

 

BTC is also a fine example, as the price goes up, there is going to be more and more effort to control it, yet there will also be contraforces, as various subjects' efforts will cancel each other, until there will be balance or cerain equilibrium in these forces BTC will serve its initial purpose

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:03 | 4165554 the grateful un...
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we havent heard from Francis on this but we will, jesuits are moralists, and before long the pope will mention the international banking system, the catholic church played footsie with the fascists in the 40s, but the jesuits have a different fundamental view of things. the church used to own a lot of property, but has lost it paying off damages by pedophile priests. now that they are poorer than they used to be, the big money connection has less of a hold on the church leadership, so they appointed a truly spiritual leader.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 15:05 | 4166118 11b40
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Don't hold your breath waiting to hear from Francis.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:43 | 4165458 quasimodo
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Lol only 75 large? Probably hurt his feelings.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:59 | 4165535 CrimsonAvenger
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Still pricey. But I'd seriously consider ponying up a few thou for whoever can successfully deliver a swift kick to the nuts (and film it for one of those endless GIF loops).

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:45 | 4165470 trader1
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as long as banning bitcoins causes gold to resume its bull market, then i'm cool with it ;-)

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:52 | 4165485 LawsofPhysics
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Starting to like this bitcoin idea more and more...

 

Unfortunately that's only $134, so I think most professionals are going to wait until the bid gets a little more realistic.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:50 | 4165489 Kaiser Sousa
Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:28 | 4165651 ThirdWorldDude
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Shhhh, quiet, you'll wake MOMO...

 

OTOH, I just bought the entire Vienna Symphony Orchestra. 

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:41 | 4165707 TeMpTeK
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this is all getting to be re-goddamned-diculous....

 

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:50 | 4165491 TaperProof
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Kill Bernanke?  That would do nothing at all.  These people need better targets

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:15 | 4165567 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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No it would do more you know. A few heads exploding into red balls of mist will force hands one way or the other.

I trust people............

 

To act in self interest first and foremost in the main

 

Anyone in a position of power fears morality or else they most likely wouldn't have actively pursued it. It goes against self interest to do. There are expections to the rule but they are few.

You start making heads explode it either goes full retard fear and intimidation to keep things going or policy is throtted back were self interest is more in line with a larger segment of individuals to re-establish trust.

Human driven systems are ultimately trust based. You use fear, intimidation, force because of lack of it to preserve self interest like we have now and free and open societies don't because there is real genuine trust because the system in general encompasses as much individual self interest into the construct.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:26 | 4165645 seek
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I've written before that TPTB freak out over coordination. If something bad happened to three elites in three different cities on the same day, the 2nd amendment would exist in name only in a matter of days -- assuming guns were used.

I can't imagine the panic if they were all taken out via "accident," though. That reaction would be interesting to watch.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 15:12 | 4166156 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Since I fired that off without spelling checking and someone responded fears morality should be mortality though both apply in terms to self interest and people in positions of power.

expections to the rule should be exceptions.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:50 | 4165492 the grateful un...
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they could offer the bounty in fiat dollars but would there be any takers?

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:51 | 4165496 toe
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dead bernanke should be good for about +20 s&p points no?

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:53 | 4165504 DIgnified
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ua_oJfpQWY  Yeah, no.  I dont believe any of this. 

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:56 | 4165515 Overfed
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How much to just give him a savage beating?

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:08 | 4165570 Uncle Remus
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With a lead-filled toner cartridge?

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:41 | 4165706 yogibear
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A lot of the savers that Bernanke stole billions would probably be willing to pay some money to take and punch the guy.

 

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:59 | 4165531 the grateful un...
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funny now that bernanke is mostly retired and out of the picture and YELLEN is the fed chief, come on people get ahead of the curve

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 15:37 | 4166250 Trimmed Hedge
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I would guess that among other things, it could also be viewed as a message to the incoming Fed head...

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 12:58 | 4165532 PolishErick
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can You say de-legalization? I bet You can, but how do You implement it across the www? can anyone tell me how they're going to stop it- because they will try- that is for sure...

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:00 | 4165537 ptoemmes
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Just a "reminder" about a recent Tor reference - and NSA's QUANTUM program - here at ZH: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-11-15/internet-now-weaponized-and-you...

 

 

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:01 | 4165543 bugs_
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Lots of little people have been royally shafted by the Bernank but Bear Stearns and Lehman stakeholders are probably the most likely to put out a hit on the man.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:01 | 4165544 Quinvarius
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It won't do anything to stop the torrent of money he has unleashed, or the fact that it will continue.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:03 | 4165553 Basilian
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Each country needs to reclaim its soveriegnty and print their own money and sell their own bonds and base it off a basket of reserve currencies gold, silver, bitcoin, oil....

The "Mob" mentality does not lead to a victory.

As much as I would like to see l these villians and complicit villians put to the sword I prefer to see them all emasculated and depowered and the local populace of each geographic region empowered and be in control of their birthrite.

A call for guillotines should not shout down education.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:06 | 4165558 moonstears
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So, think this is bad for Bitcoin, and a horrid idea, though I'll admit Bernank, and some others mentioned in this article are scumbags...

Now follow me here:

You (Govt entity) shut down a evil drug/assasin site run by a self proclaimed pirate.

Take his crypto coin wallet thumb drive upon arrest.

Start a NEW drug/assasin site, with means to track users.

Put bounty on your own, contribute "coins", wait for dumbass "killah" to respond.

Now you have the great all American paperback novel.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:08 | 4165561 daemon
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I didn't think about that false flag .

Anyway, it's possibly a strategic error . Trying to suppress BTC won't succeed, there are too many actors, outside of the USA or EU, who could benefit from an alternative system : they won't be necessarily cooperative, and that could end being a problem for the dollar and western hegemony.

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:07 | 4165565 Inthemix96
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Just offering cash for topping the bernsplinks is morally wrong.

What he needs is to be peeled alive and make him last 7 days as you do so.

That would be a just reward for the damage he has caused, and no pain relief for the poisened little twat either.  Fuck me, I would do it for free.

;-)

Mon, 11/18/2013 - 13:13 | 4165591 Seer
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Only seven days?

Chain him to the water wheel like the rest of us.  And do whatever it takes to keep him alive for the longest amount of time so that he an "enjoy" "the suimple life" that he has helped to create.  Maybe to speed up the educational process he can be relocated to a remote area of India (where there are millions upon millions living off of $0.50/day).

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