Census Bureau Suggests Job Manipulation Was Not Systematic

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Following the White House's ignorance of anything that could be going on at the Census Bureau (apart from knowing for sure that the report on jobs data manipulation was misleading), the Census Bureau itself has chimed in...


So that's good then - just unsystematic? A single-manipulator, acting alone (from the book depository?)

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Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:48 | 4171168 Cdad
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Lololololololololol....lol....Tyler..just killin' it today.

Double up on that short the Comedy Central Network position...no freakin' way those guys can do anything more laughable than the US Federal Government.  Not a chance. 


Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:53 | 4171199 Canadian Dirtlump
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either manipulation isn't systemic, ergo the chicago crew did it for political gain, ergo they need to be sent packing.... or it is, and the system needs to be rebooted... or.... C all of the above..

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 17:45 | 4171449 Troll Magnet
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They bought the low (informed and wage earners) and sold out the country. 



Tue, 11/19/2013 - 18:06 | 4171542 rehypothecator
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Let's see here, who does the Census Bureau report to, again?


Ah, yes, I remember now: http://www.govexec.com/oversight/2009/02/obama-shifts-census-oversight-triggering-angry-protest-by-republicans/28517/

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 18:54 | 4171693 AlaricBalth
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/rehypothecator that is a great find. Most people had completely forgotten about that. It's nice to know now that whenever I have an issue with the Census Bureau I can always call Valerie Jarrett.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 22:19 | 4172223 rehypothecator
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Furthermore, left unasked by the mass media, is why the Census Bureau would even have any opinion whatsoever about job numbers.  They count people, so asking them for opinions about job statistic legitimacy is suspicious, it makes so little sense.  It's sort of like asking Hollywood movie stars how to forge peace in the Middle East.  

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 17:17 | 4171324 Peter Pan
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There is a difference between systematic and systemic manipulation although I suspect we have both going on here.

From now the presumption should be that everything is manipulated unless proven otherwise.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:49 | 4171172 smithcreek
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A rogue manipulator in the Cinci office.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:50 | 4171179 superflex
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You owe me a Coke.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:49 | 4171173 superflex
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I didn't know the Census Bureau had a branch in Cincinnati.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 19:27 | 4171799 insanelysane
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At least the administration has all of the notes from the IRS scandal.  They just need to replace IRS with Census and BLS in the scripts.  Rouge IRS workers in one small field office to Rouge Census and BLS workers in one small office.  Top level IRS management didn't know a thing to Top level Census and BLS management didn't know a thing.  Management can shout that they are innocent and then invoke the 5th amendment.  We have 3 more years of this.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:49 | 4171175 Stonedog
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It was professor plum in the study with the candle stick. 

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:53 | 4171195 EscapeKey
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Oh right, the old "we got caught lying before, but you can trust us now".

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:53 | 4171197 Sudden Debt
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Tue, 11/19/2013 - 17:21 | 4171347 Peter Pan
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OBAMA: It's God's fault. I was praying for more Obamacare enrolments and fewer unemployed and he got it back the front.

Wed, 11/20/2013 - 02:28 | 4172591 Balanced Integer
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Obama is praying...kneeling...on a rug...facing Mecca. Ahsalaam malakem. Allahu akbar. Kazoon-tite.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:54 | 4171207 Quantum Nucleonics
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Nice.  It was just a one time thing that happened to be right before a presidential election when the unemployment rate was a huge issue.  Whew, I'm so relieved it wasn't an ongoing conspiracy to mislead the American people and capital markets on the state of the economy or anything.

What did the President know, and when did he know it.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 17:09 | 4171281 youngman
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You can bet the advisors and the political wonks said to the President that they would "fix" the number before the election....that is a Democratic rule number 1 ...

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 19:00 | 4171718 SDShack
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What did the President know, and when did he know it.

Well, with 0zer0 the 1st answer is "He didn't know". And the 2nd answer is "This week after I read the papers." But he's the smartest prez evuh!

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 19:29 | 4171803 insanelysane
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The sad thing is when Ozer0 says he doesn't know anything about everything, it is easy to believe him.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:56 | 4171213 RealityCheque
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Census Bureau... who the fuck are you talking to? everyone knows the colour of your dirty laundry. The problem is that the majority don't seem to care.

So instead of dickhead press releases how about you just shut up, fuck off and carry on doing the same old shit.

The big reset is coming, thats where you'll find justice.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:58 | 4171224 ShrNfr
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Just a couple of rogue employees in Cleveland, move on, nothing to see.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 17:35 | 4171411 SDShack
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Que Dan Rather disciples in the lame stream media..."It's fake but accurate."

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 17:00 | 4171234 rp1
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The White House is right.  They only lied a couple of times, when it really mattered.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 17:11 | 4171292 rosiescenario
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....it was just a couple of rogue agents in Cleveland who took it upon themselves to do this....oops, wrong thread, that was the IRS.....

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 17:15 | 4171314 Dr. Engali
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Damn rogue traders!......oops wrong scandal.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 17:40 | 4171428 ShrNfr
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It was all caused by a movie according to the administration. Besides, if you liked your job, you can keep it.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 17:16 | 4171318 akak
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When your eyes are shut tight, it is easy to not see almost anything.

Wed, 11/20/2013 - 08:42 | 4172914 imapopulistnow
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You are referring to the media?

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 17:39 | 4171423 Joebloinvestor
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These "moles" who reside in government jobs need to be exposed and fired.

They are following orders given by people with a political agenda or following an approved agenda with political motives.

They can LIE openly and still retain their jobs.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 17:41 | 4171435 papaswamp
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Was just on the treasury direct website and got this awesome message...

"We're sorry...

The server has encountered an error, and we're unable to process your request.

We're sorry for the inconvenience and are investigating the problem. In the meantime, our contact information is available at www.treasurydirect.gov if you need assistance.

Thank you for visiting our website."

Guess everyone is fucking sorry.....

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 17:49 | 4171469 More_sellers_th...
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Stop the madness

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 17:53 | 4171486 More_sellers_th...
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i yell at my kids all the time to "tell the truth" ... it used to matter, now I honestly think I'm preparing them poorly for the world they have to live in

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 18:23 | 4171592 object_orient
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... it used to matter, now I honestly think

There you go again. Lying is tough to learn if you're a decent person. You're right though, honesty will only hold you back in the rat race.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 18:41 | 4171487 alfred b.
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    If I had a dollar for every time gov't/GSE's or banking cartel lied, pillaged, misled and exploited its 99%...I'd be richer than than the leeches like Buffit et al.




Tue, 11/19/2013 - 18:13 | 4171560 Kelley
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For the cynical disbelievers, the Census Bureau will be issuing a Report confirming the unsystemicness of the fraud written by a guy named Warren. 

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 18:15 | 4171572 Kelley
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Meanwhile the WH has issued a new Executive Order:

"If I like your plan, you can keep your plan. If I like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Period."

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 18:18 | 4171576 QQQBall
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Rogue BLSer?

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 18:54 | 4171695 conspicio
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It depends on your context and definition of the the word "systematic" and the word "manipulation" may or may not be. Used together in or out of context, the word or words may, in fact or by mere supposition on the reader/listener's part, communicate incorrectly the recollection on an individual or group of individuals' basis.


Tue, 11/19/2013 - 20:57 | 4172044 rjs
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they're implying rogue employees?

if 2200 census employees interview 60,000 households representing 110,000 individuals per month, that means each census employee is responsible for 50 responses to the survey...since most of those are employed already, the opportuntiy to switch survey answers from unemployed is minimal...with the labor force participation rate less than 65%, the average number of unemployed each employee would interview would be around 4...with each survey answer representing around 22K in the final totals, it's unlikely one rouge employee could reduce the number of uemployed by more than 100K...with a margin of error of +/- 300,000 in the monthly change in the number unemployed and +/- 0.2% in the employment rate, it would take at least 4 census employees falsifying every unemployed person they interview to swing a change larger than the margin of error...

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 23:04 | 4172328 NIETSNEREM
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We're bound to hear it sooner or later. Any day now. Wait. There it is. "Bush's fault."

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