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Chicago Fed's Evans Unveils Federal Reserve's 2014 Year-End S&P 500 Price Target

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Minutes ago, the Chicago Fed's Charlie Evans went dove-retard and tongue-in-cheekly announced that QEternity may have to be increased by 50% in the coming year!

Ignore the fact that the US deficit will be less than half this number in the coming year. More importantly, based on what everyone now knows is the only driver of US equity "market" performance, the Fed is implicitly announcing its 2014-year-end target for the S&P 500 of 2,220 - so BTFATH (because it's the fundamentals that matter).



Of course, the question is what happens when the Fed owns the entire Treasury and MBS market? Obviously, nothing bad. Or maybe something, because recall that currently the Fed is monetizing 0.3% of all 10 year equivalents per week, 15% per year. It currently hold 33% of the bond market. Should it hike QEternity by 50%, it means the Fed will own a ridiculous 57% of the entire bond market in 10Y equivalents on December 31, 2014.

And that is how reserve currency status is lost.

h/t @Not_John_Lohman

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Tue, 11/19/2013 - 15:45 | 4170871 Dollar Bill Hiccup
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You're in good hands ...

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 15:47 | 4170878 VD
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jail that motherfucker for out/in-sider trading!

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 15:48 | 4170892 ZippyBananaPants
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Finally, some good timing on my part.

I just loaded up on NFLX!!

Cramer would be proud!!

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 15:52 | 4170896 knukles
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God damn! 
I can stick my whole arm in there right up to my elbow without jelly!

haven't had this much fun since the showers at Pelican Bay*


*aka being fucked by criminals

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 15:55 | 4170922 Dear Infinity
Tue, 11/19/2013 - 15:57 | 4170934 knukles
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Notice: No Oligarchs Were Harmed During This Theater of the Absurd Press Release

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:03 | 4170961 Stackers
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They can buy my Wayne Newton autographed record collection for $10 billion.


You will notice he said "assets" not "bonds"

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:23 | 4171018 ParkAveFlasher
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Money is an asset, debt is money, lack of money is debt, requires a loan, therefore lack of money is an asset.  Capital may be financed by a loan, loan being debt, the loan comprised of money, which is debt (see above).  Equity is the transmutation of debt, that you must create more debt to cover the transmutation to equity, thus more debt is more equity.

EDIT: </sarc>

Hang on to your Wayne Newton collection.  Your price target may soon be exceeded. 


Tue, 11/19/2013 - 17:17 | 4171323 King_of_simpletons
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America is a Plutocracy. Plutocrats control the masses.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 20:48 | 4172021 bunzbunzbunz
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BTC Target.....99999999^99

Not alot, but still FREE BITCOINS: http://freebitco.in/?r=25727

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 21:38 | 4172132 old naughty
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Let's see...risk on US equities, no foreign buys...hot money flow back in...all other curriencies down...Liquidity dry up...Asia (housing +) bubbles burst...

all assets drop, au+ag up(+ Bitcoin?)

hummmm, too straight forward...

something is stirring !

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:04 | 4170969 FL_Conservative
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And let me guess, right after Evans' comments, gold and silver sold off another 1-2%.  I mean....that's the way this "market" is supposed to work, right??


Fucking farce.....These assholes are going to print until their fucking eyeballs fall out, but PM's won't get bid.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 20:18 | 4171942 ebworthen
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I've been saying it since Yellen's nomination; that bitch is going to do $170 Billion a month straight to Wall Street until Main Street bleeds out - then it will be "no one saw this coming" and bailouts part deux.

The U.S.S.A. has gone full retard, all engines full steam ahead toward the iceberg, no common sense or sanity left.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 20:16 | 4171940 HardAssets
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With a bought off 'press'

And a dumbed down populace, (that parrots what the 'news' tells them, if they pay attention at all) - - -

it seems they can say just about anything they want.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 21:49 | 4172156 PeeramidIdeologies
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Now don't get me wrong, I don't condon the act of sitting infront of the TV and absorbing eveything displayed as fact. But I do believe it is beneficial to be aware of what they are attempting to portray in the media. I call it an all-inclusive perspective.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 20:48 | 4172023 Shad_ow
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You guys make the continued raping of our country bearable. Thanks for the laughs!  Simpletons, like me, need everything we can get for free these days.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:12 | 4170945 Flatchestynerdette
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My tax dollars at work knukles - everyone go long s&p futures. Ride the wave.

Happy Holidays! Courtesy of the US Treasury and Federal Banking system.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 20:09 | 4171923 Sam Clemons
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Technically, your tax dollars are unneeded.  But you still have to pay.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 15:51 | 4170904 johnQpublic
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no onion?

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:39 | 4171125 CrashisOptimistic
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Jaw dropping moment:

Senator McCain will not back Yellen for Fed chair.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 17:50 | 4171475 max2205
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And I thought we went full retard with QE3.....

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 15:52 | 4170905 hedgeless_horseman
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We may need to purchase 1.5 trillion in assets until January 2015

And just like that Evans saved or created 4 points on the S&P 500.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 15:54 | 4170913 knukles
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Which Instantly saved or created 4,238,944.23 full or part time jobs by the Commerce Department and BLS's very own Sophist and Statistical adjustments.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 15:56 | 4170931 SoberOne
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Never go full dove-retard.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:01 | 4170958 Bay of Pigs
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I thought he was the hawk?

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 17:15 | 4171312 akak
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At the Fed, they're ALL hawks --- and we're all mice.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 17:22 | 4171345 all-priced-in
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Tue, 11/19/2013 - 20:20 | 4171946 HardAssets
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Bay of Pigs: " I thought he was the hawk? "

No, they're all vultures and vampire bats.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 17:15 | 4171311 Nobody For President
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Hey knuks, you must be doing good, maybe even God's work, because somebody is downvoting each and every one of your posts.

Good job!

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 17:32 | 4171397 knukles
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That be da troof, my brother.

I done went an pissed somebody off, poor bugger.

I haven't gotten into somebody's head like that in ages.
And I wasn't even trying!


Tue, 11/19/2013 - 20:30 | 4171977 kaiserhoff
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Only the elite earn their own personal troll.


Tue, 11/19/2013 - 20:24 | 4171963 Lewshine
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1.5 trillion in new print should take Gold down to...let say...$800 an oz?? Yeah, it all makes sense.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 15:51 | 4170909 rubearish10
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Hmmm, if you're going to report all the great moves you make, please also report your mistakes. Otherwise, nobody gives a shit!

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 15:55 | 4170926 knukles
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Eddie Bernays would get very, very annoyed at that attitude.
That's no way to run a Perceptions Management and Propaganda Media Mechanism

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:03 | 4170971 SillySalesmanQu...
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ALLFED, the good bond people. Trillions you can count on...

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 20:21 | 4171924 HardAssets
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I've heard some say they think theyre buying more than the stated $85B per month now. They didnt provide any evidence for that claim however. Supposedly from an 'insider'.  Who knows.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 21:31 | 4172121 ZH Snob
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that's just the soft sell.  they will be forced to double QE very quickly in the coming year, then in half the time it took to double the QE it will be doubled again, then half that time... and so forth.

that is the mathematical nature of exponentiality.  that is how currency becomes worthless in time.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 15:47 | 4170876 Cdad
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"Of course, the question is what happens when the Fed owns the entire Treasury and MBS market?"


The US defaults...and finally...finally...we End the Fed?


Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:10 | 4170993 Ham-bone
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Don't mean to beat a dead horse - but the Fed is not working alone here...there is massive collusion among the Fed and "foreigners" who have been buying US T debt even faster than the Fed..."foreigners" own a record 50% of all Notes/Bonds / TIPS...the Fed "only" 20%



  • GDP $9.5 T
  • Marketable debt = $3.3 T  (blended interest rate of 6.4%)
  • Non-marketable debt = $2.3 T
    • Fed           2% of Notes/Bonds/TIPS ($50 B)
    • Foreigner 30% of Notes/Bonds/TIPS (890 B)




  • GDP $13.7 T
  • Marketable debt = $5.1 T  (blended interest rate of 5%)
  • Non-marketable debt $4.1 T
    • Fed  4% of Notes/Bonds/TIPS ($200 B)
    • Foreigner  42% of Notes/Bonds/TIPS ($2.2 T)




  • GDP $16 T
  • Marketable debt = $12.2 T  (blended interest rate of 2.3%)
  • Non-marketable debt = $4.9 T
    • Fed           22% of Notes/Bonds/TIPS ($2.2 T)
    • Foreigner  50% of Notes/Bonds/TIPS ($5 T)


Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:12 | 4171010 fonzannoon
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Ham-bone what happens when the fed owns it all? We just go JGB right?

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:27 | 4171029 Ham-bone
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What's really fascinating is that domestic Treasury ownership (ie, institutional folks) (ex-Fed) has remained about $2.5 T since '00 (+/- .5 T) while Public debt has grown by $9 T...guess who would be destroyed by an equity market crash???  pensions, insurers, etc.). 

Almost like if you wanted to destroy the US you would massively in-debt the nation but make sure all future payments (reparation???) only go to foreigners and the Fed???  That is exactly where we are heading???  Like a 30/70 split between the Fed and "foreign" buyers???  While at the same time intra-governmental debt has likely max'ed at about $5 T and will begin to wane...so more interest on debt leaving US to foreigners and less and less interest paid back...less money velocity / money multipliers

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:31 | 4171078 fonzannoon
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If you ever want to get into this ham-bone let me know, we can talk offline. There is a lot to it.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 20:40 | 4172001 kaiserhoff
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Good points.  Minimal effect on GDP and headline numbers.  Continuing bleed out of Gross National Income, Cap Ex, and cash flow.  Plenty of jobs, since everything is going part-time or temp.  No way in hell to earn a living.

To succeed you have to be a government drone, or part of the free shit army.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 15:50 | 4170898 seek
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$1500B / 12 months = QE of $125B a month. That's an increase from the $85B a month, no?

Sounds like someone is really confident about the "recovery."

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 15:55 | 4170924 fonzannoon
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"Of course, the question is what happens when the Fed owns the entire Treasury and MBS market? Obviously, nothing bad."

Does ZH care to put in a guess as to what happens? Because all I see is the Nikkei and JGB market in our future.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 15:57 | 4170940 NoDebt
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Fonz, seek, ANYBODY.... is this a joke or is it not a joke?

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:02 | 4170964 fonzannoon
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that is a real tweet. I don't think they have reached the point of being stupid funny like us....yet.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 16:20 | 4171040 seek
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Everything I'm reading in the tweets seems sincere. Completely fucking insane, but sincere.

Cut & pasted:

- our purchases will continue to be open ended. We may need to purchase 1.5 trillion in assets until January 2015

- the Fed believes it has the propery tools for risk management.

- we are continually monitoring risk issues; we feel the the benefits of our policy outweigh the costs.

- in the 1970s, we had a wage-price spiral, which we are not seeing today.

- we would like to see the labor market strengthen so we could change our strategy

- when the time comes to unwind, we will try to sterilize our assets, possibly via reverse repos & interest on excess reserves

- I look forward to the day when we can begin to unwind.


I honestly don't know what to say to this. It's like they're aliens at this point.

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 17:10 | 4171287 NoDebt
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Wow.  Just wow.

Now the Fed test-floats new policy on Twitter before they make an official announcement?  Did they recently take a meeting with Carl Icahn about this?

Tue, 11/19/2013 - 17:19 | 4171332 Nobody For President
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Hey Fonz, calling us zhers stupid funny - speak for yourself. I'm just stupid.

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