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Daniel Hannan Sums Up The US Political System In 140 Characters (Or Less)

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Outspoken MEP Daniel Hannan summed up the day's political machinations rather aptly




Of course, as is the "rule" it would seem in US politics, what one has said in the past is irrelevant compared to what one needs now...




But back to Daniel to explain...


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Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:04 | 4179559 NOTaREALmerican
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Bah,  it's just a piece of paper, get over it.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:12 | 4179590 Bad Attitude
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The Constitution may be a piece of paper, but it is the piece of paper that set down the rules for the operation of our government. Dear Leader and Reid may find the Constitution a hindrance right now. But, when the political power shifts - as it undoubtedly will - they will suddenly want to use the Constitution to protect themselves.

Payback will be a bitch.

Forward (over the cliff)!

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:16 | 4179604 ZerOhead
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This just in from Harare...

Obama has won the 2013 Robert G. Mugabe Freedom & Democracy Prize

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:27 | 4179628 LetThemEatRand
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Putting aside which Team is right or wrong, the Fillibuster rule is not a Constitutional animal.  It is a rule of the Senate.  As it stands, it is nothing more than another tool of the Teams to pretend there is disagreement between them so as to generate press over said pretend disagreement.  I say let the parties flounder around and pass stupid legislation and show the population that it doesn't matter who is in charge.  What are they going to do?  Create an NSA that spies on all of us?  Create secret prisons?  Create a Department of Homeland Security that militarizes police and buys billions of hollow points?  Create a cartel of private bankers called the Fed that openly rigs the markets and enriches the oligarchs at the expense of the middle class?  Make us all take our shoes off at the airport because some loon put lighter fluid in his shoes 10 years ago?  It.  Doesn't.  Matter.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:36 | 4179656 Overfed
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Awww...gee, they would never do any of that, would they?

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:43 | 4179676 Deo vindice
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That's the trouble when you view the Constitution as an "evolving document".

When absolutes are jettisoned from society, then that society is absolutely doomed to failure.

In so many areas, we are simply reaping now what has been sown for the past 75-100 years.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:47 | 4179686 Patriot Eke
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My rights are natural, and a document, which was written as a reminder of those rights for the federal government to defend, might just be a piece of paper.  It may be amended by an ignorant majority.  Executive orders and Supreme Court decisions may reverse it.  However, my natural rights do not change.

Obama may be concerned about the document getting in his way, but he had better remember millions of people with rifles will be more difficult to conquer.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:01 | 4179719 Joe Davola
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Hey, I've got an idea - let's hold some congressional hearings and strenuously demand they play by the rules!

And hold our breath, and maybe have a march - or better yet a sit-in, and, and write letters to the editor.

Aw fuck it, where's that bottle of tequila.


And off topic, but I see on the front page of MSN that some tigers died in the Gaza Strip zoo.  Is this the first "concentration camp" that has a zoo?

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:20 | 4179775 Boris Alatovkrap
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Also has many burlesque club and sleazy lounge, that is where to derive name.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:00 | 4179879 MontgomeryScott
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Boris, you are CORRECT.

Over in Haifa, they have a club called the 'Gaza Strip', where all types of sex acts are simulated (including bestiality).

They THOUGHT that Barry would play the part of the 'donkey' (with a slim, but busty, pure-blooded Zionist female), but instead, he turned out to be a JACKASS. Even the Knesset is turning on him now. Bibi is having a shit-fit, and...

The 'COMMUNITY-ORGANIZER-IN CHIEF' is starting to look like the punk-tuckus that he really IS, even to his so-called 'supportards' WITHIN the CONUS, as well as WITHOUT.



Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:33 | 4179976 El Crusty
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the real question is who is doing the simulating- the women or the men?

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 00:40 | 4180189 markmotive
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Newsflash! The consitution hasn't meant sh!t to the government for at least 50 years.

16 Reasons You Should Listen to George Orwell

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 01:27 | 4180299 JohnnyBriefcase
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Bad Attitude - "when the political power shifts - as it undoubtedly will - they will suddenly want to use the Constitution to protect themselves.

Payback will be a bitch"


When the political power shifts to what?

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 08:09 | 4180671 GetZeeGold
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The British are coming....and thank God for that!

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 04:10 | 4180508 Boris Alatovkrap
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In middle east bedouin culture, only man is allow participation and all women are excised of genitalia, so likely is men simulate. Boris is throw up little vomit in mouth and is now excused.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 05:45 | 4180569 Truthseeker2
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Obama -- A constitutional lawyer who presides as though there is NO Constitution in place! ! !

"The extraordinary initiative taken to pass the inherently flawed Affordable Care Act during the most severe recession since the Great Depression is a perfect example of his terrible, yet purposeful, timing. So is the rest of his legislative agenda for the remainder of his second term. Pushing an equally flawed immigration proposal right in the midst of the destruction of America’s middle class is both wrongheaded and ill-advised. And yet everyone knows exactly what direction he will go in — MISDIRECTION 24/7."



Fri, 11/22/2013 - 07:26 | 4180627 DangerClams
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In Middle East bedouin culture, mouth vomit is considered delicacy.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:11 | 4179912 Drifter
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There is no such thing as "natural rights".  In fact the whole "rights" concept is ludicrous.

The only so-called "rights" you have are those other people recognize and honor.  If they don't recognize and honor your so-called "rights", they don't exist in any practical sense.  

The proof of this is all around you.  How long has the government been ignoring your so-called "rights"?  Years?  Decades?

"rights" is a foolish effort to push back against tyranny without a fight.  You hope government will honor your so-called "rights" so you don't have to fight their tyranny with guns.  

But when they don't honor your so-called "rights", the guns never come out.  You just whine and bitch.  Or sue them in court maybe, good luck with that.

"rights" is the opiate of sheep, just like religion.  In fact "rights" is a religious belief.  It's a fantasy just like any other religious belief.

The Bill of Rights is pretty much ignored by this government except when it benefits them, just like the Constitution is ignored except when it benefits them.  Because the guns haven't come out.  And they won't come out.  Not in America.

We're way past the time guns should have come out.  Tyranny we have today is far worse than what triggered the founders to bring guns out against British tyranny. 

Even Obamacare won't bring out the guns, and if Obamacare won't bring 'em out, nothing will.

"but he had better remember millions of people with rifles will be more difficult to conquer." 

Bullshit.  Those rifles won't ever come out.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 00:41 | 4180193 NidStyles
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Well then you won't mind if we just come on over and lynch the shit out of you then, would you? Seeing as how you are telling us you do not have a right to flee or fight back.


You morons are so easy to disprove. That whole the state is the only authority that can grant right's argument is getting a bit old, and it was always incorrect. It doesn't matter if you refrain from saying the state instead of society, or that you keep using the word WE to trying and make about individuals as a collective, you are still making the same erroneous argument the statists make to justify themselves and their violations of rights daily.


Your ignorance and position is part of the problem, not the solution you half-wit.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 02:00 | 4180366 Drifter
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Your idiocy is boldy (and humorously) displayed in your comment.  I didn't say any of the things you imply I said. 

And what's this "right to fight back" bullshit?   You don't need a "right" to do that.  If you choose to fight it's because you want to maintain your freedom, or regain your freedom.  It has nothing to do with any so-called "right".

Believe what you want.  I don't care. 

Bottom line, the guns ain't coming out, not now, not ever.  You have the guns but you don't have the guts.  America will go right on into communism, fascism, police state, whatever you want to call it, and the guns won't ever come out to fight it, because you don't have the guts to do it.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 02:40 | 4180426 new game
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i have to agree with drifter.  nobody wants to be the sacrificial lamb.

many reason but who has stepped forward to do the deed?

behind the scene prepping, yeh, because that is easy

and avoids confrontation...

just sayin what im seein

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 04:12 | 4180509 Boris Alatovkrap
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Boris is have similar problem in Copper Mining operation for test of ground voltage differential of subterranean copper deposit... cannot find volunteer.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 08:23 | 4180678 kralizec
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Harry Reid is volunteer, him you take?

BTW-Nice to see you back in action Boris.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 16:03 | 4181984 Boris Alatovkrap
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For particular job, requirement is worker must to be well grounded. Reid is not so well grounded.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 06:35 | 4180585 Ar-Pharazôn
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maaaaaaaaan.... you're sadly right... that's what i m saying since years now

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 01:38 | 4180318 mick_richfield
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Natural rights derive from human nature.  Natural law is observable, not invented.  What is 'right' is not defined by what other people recognize.  It's true that rights must be defended, or evil or confused people will encroach on them.

Evil today is more sophisticated than when it wore a British uniform.  Back then it said "Britain is still our sovereign."  Today it says "The majority voted for me.  That's democracy."   

It was lying then, and it's lying now.

It would like nothing better than for the rifles to come out. 

The intensification of tyranny recently is a sign of weakness, not strength.  Real power is getting what you want without the cattle noticing and becoming restless.

It's more possible to fight it now than it ever has been. 

What does it fear?

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 01:19 | 4180281 Sam Clemons
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EXACTLY!  I get so tired of hearing "freedom isn't free."  Natural rights - Um, yes it is, all individuals SHOULD be born into freedom.  Governments, by and large, are the only entities that take away freedom.



Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:49 | 4179695 nmewn
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Yes it is "a tool" of the Senate for its use or abuse.

The Senate is completely fucked anyways as an institution of the Republic as created. Not only was it supposed to perform the function of slowing down the "whims of democracy" and all its insanity of the moment, it was supposed to be a representation of the individual states governments.

That is to say, not popularly elected, but Senators chosen by the individual states legislatures/govenors who were elected by the people of those look after the individual states interests...NOT the nations interests as a whole.

Now its nothing but a crime syndicate...thank you Willam Jennings Bryan...fuckwad.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:23 | 4179782 lewy14
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Completely agreed with you and LTER here.

What is interesting to me is the information this act by Reid conveys.

The game theoretic implications are obvious - this is a "defection" - and just as obviously the Democrats seem not to worry about the consequences.

Implication being that they feel confident in their permanent majority - there will never again be GOP control over the Senate, or a GOP President. Plausible, considering that Chris Christie is effectively part of the D establishment and the rest of the GOP insiders are spending more time trying to crush the Tea Party than the Democrats. The GOP would much rather be the permanent loyal opposition and rake influence $$ from that position rather than risk governing. (After Bush, I see their point.)

Having to govern in coalition with actual Constitutional, Liberty minded people from the Tea Party is the GOP nightmare - not Obama and his ilk.

The Democrats of course know this and are happy to oblige. The Democrats also pick up added urgency from their base - now all the Senate races become very high stakes because they will determine court appointments which will last decades. It could be that the money that Reid just attracted to the Senate races will allow them to keep that slim majority; after that, the next President is at worst a RINO who can be kept in check by the bureaucracy and the press, and after that, the demographics and dependency kick in and the nation is permanently blue.

I realize that reasonable people may disagree and claim that it's misdirection to worry / favor one team above the other, but it seems prudent to acknowledge that the terms of the game have shifted. When the powers that be assume the form of an institutional party with a permanent majority, then yes, that team becomes the enemy.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:52 | 4180050 Chuck Walla
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Jeepers, lewy14, you are scaring the hell out of me. The criminals are fully in charge now with no brakes except the vote. And that is in doubt.




We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force.


~ Ayn Rand

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 00:43 | 4180203 NidStyles
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It merely disproves any notion that there was was any real opposition or separate entity within the senate that was not for government largesse.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:27 | 4179791 Chump
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This is one of the best comments I've read.  Probably the best.  Complete and succinct.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 00:03 | 4180080 Crawdaddy
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As long as we are revisiting precedent, this is a great time to bring back caning.

In May of 1856, Massachusetts Senator Charles Sumner delivered a speech to Congress against slavery, personally insulting several pro-slavery politicians. In retaliation, South Carolina Congressman Preston Brooks beat Sumner in the Senate chamber with a cane. The event left Sumner unconscious. After three years of recovery, he returned to the Senate.



Fri, 11/22/2013 - 00:04 | 4180085 A Nanny Moose
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There seems to be little to do, but watch the collapse. Agree to a point. That "point" however, begins where bodies start showing up in, or dissappearing from, the streets. What do you perceive as the outcome of allowing it all to run its course?

At what point do they come for you? For me? After familiars have become leverage? That is where this path leads, if history is any indication.

When do the productive Go Galt?

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:57 | 4179869 WhackoWarner
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Bought it you mean of course.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:20 | 4179615 SDShack
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I can sum it up in less than 140 characters.

0zer0 = Sociopath 101

Constitution = How to stop a Sociopath

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:26 | 4179630 Running On Bing...
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+10 for the brevity. +100 for the precision.


Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:31 | 4179643 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  Constitution = How to stop a Sociopath

Well, that was the intent, but the sociopaths were only slowed down.    We lost the second world war when Big-MIC wasn't disbanded.   It's been nothing but a growing police state ever sense.

The "Conservatives" turned a blind eye to the police state because they loved Big-MIC and wanted to "beat the godless commies" regardless of the cost and the "Liberals" love all Big-Gov as to a "Liberal" it's really about the graft potential of the scam.

Then you've got this entire "corporations" as "people" concept but "Conservative" love Big-Corp more than they love Big-MIC so that was never questioned.

Yeah,  we haven't had much of a constitution "of by and for da people" for some time now.  It's been "of by and for those who can own the government" for at least 100+ years.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:57 | 4179713 LetThemEatRand
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Keep preachin' brother.  You nailed it.  I would only add that some conservatives are well-meaning, and some liberals are well-meaning.  But in the end, most are as you describe and all feed the machine.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 00:09 | 4180104 A Nanny Moose
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Amen LTER!

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 01:45 | 4180331 LawyerScum
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The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 01:49 | 4180341 mick_richfield
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It ended when we lost control of money.

Money touches everything.  If there are people who can create money, they can control anything, with no need of agreement from citizens.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:30 | 4179644 t0mmyBerg
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Let me just say before I get to the meat of things that you can probably count on one hand the number of people who have more strongly negative feelings toward Obama than I do in the US.

That said this issue is not about the constitution, it is about Senate rules.  Longstanding Senate rules in a body that takes its rules seriously.  But what it is not is anything to do with the Constitution.  Now again do not get me wrong, Obama pisses on the Constitution every day in other ways, but strangely, this one he is being called out on is not one of them, unless of course he coerced Reid into using the Nuke option.  But that would be more a permission thing than an order because if it were up to Reid, all Republicans would be in jail or worse.  Kind of the way I think of the Left and also statists on the right..

Anyways, perhaps we should not  take the MEP (what, Member European Parliament?) too seriously, though he has the right sentiment.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:06 | 4179732 Magically Delicious
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Great points all around

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 01:29 | 4180300 kchrisc
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"Paging all section 3, article 3 guillotines. You're needed in DC. Stat!"

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 01:31 | 4180306 baldski
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Hey, Bad Attitude, Where in the fucking constitution does it say the Senate needs 60 votes to pass a law or confirm an appointment? You are one dumb shit!

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 02:45 | 4180433 Oldwood
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As you suggest, the filibuster is not part of the constitution, but it has been a senate rule since 1789, and many a majority has resisted its elimination simply because it gives protection to voting minorities in congress. This is not a insignificant procedural modification and is not referred to as the nuclear option for nothing. IT IS a symbol of the blatant disregard this government has had for all pre-existing rules, and tells me this is part of the end game. They have done much to insure a consistent voting block by increasing the corruptive forces of dependency in corporations as well as the general population, as well as divisiveness, not to mention governmental agency mission creep that has nfluenced virtually every aspect of society. I don't thick the democrats think they will ever see another republican majority again, much less conservative. The tipping point for so many aspects of society has been passed and the progressives see it as an oportunity to capture the reins of power indefinitely.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 06:23 | 4180579 grekko
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You have got to be kidding me Oldwood.  Do you really believe that the Repubs (augggh! Spit on them as well) want to become a third rate party in a two party system?  All they have to do is keep screaming about Obamacsare and behind the scenes make sure that it goes into effect on schedule, then keep on screaming.  When the "sticker shock" finally hits everyone in the country (except the freeloaders), the 2014 elections will give the Repubs a big enough majority to do whatever they want, filibuster or not, thanks to the new rule.

I agree with most people here that both partys are super corrupt and also bought and paid for.  Congress?  Representative of the people?  That's another fairytale.  When has it ever been?  It has always boiled down to money, but that may be changing.  Soon it may be money AND guns.  They got the money and we got the guns.  As someone once said, a smith and wesson beats four of a kind!

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 13:52 | 4181418 yofish
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All you simpletons do realize that the word filibuster isn't in the real, actual, non- fantasised Constitution? 

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:33 | 4179806 Occams_Chainsaw
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I just took a constitution in my toilet.....

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:56 | 4179861 WhackoWarner
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Come on all of you.

Time has come that all this talk is way too self-idulgent.

Are you all going to "bleat" as you are herded into your pens?

So I say do not spend one dime on XMAS.  NOT ONE.

Easy way to take this down?  Do not spend one dime.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 14:01 | 4181471 yofish
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Can you send me a selfie?

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:53 | 4180051 idontcare
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Didn't Time say that the Constitution was obsolete as of 7/4/11?? 

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:05 | 4179561 Nothing To See Here
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They are going to "rebrand" Woodrow Wilson's idea of a "living constitution" in 3, 2, 1...

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:05 | 4179563 vegas
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President Gobbels has spoken; you got a problem with that?

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:06 | 4179567 tenpanhandle
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The Constitution: getting in the way of crooked politicians for over 200 years.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:27 | 4179634 Chump
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I dunno.  It doesn't seem to be getting in the way of anyone or anything, and that's not a recent phenomenon.  Remember, Lincoln suspended habeus corpus.

The Constitution doesn't do shit unless the citizenry remains zealous.

"[N]either the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt."

~Samuel Adams

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 10:38 | 4180894 odatruf
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Brewer / Patriot

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:08 | 4179571 EscapeKey
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I wasn't aware Obama had any political power. Did Jamie Dimon let him make a decision or two about something utterly irrelevant?

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:08 | 4179574 NoDebt
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It should be fun to see everyone switch sides again on the issue if the R's take back the Senate in 2014.  

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:21 | 4179772 Chump
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No, it's not going to be fucking fun to see that.  It's not fun to see them flop now and pretend they stridently oppose one another's policies.  Just another sad reminder of a captured, corrupt government.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:11 | 4179587 Wahooo
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I don't like how obama works, because he gets in the way of my Constitution.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:13 | 4179599 Colonel
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Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:43 | 4179675 forwardho
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My rights are natural rights, God gave them to all creatures.

They are not dependent on the whims of a petty tyrant.

Go ahead, pass a law that forbids a lowly bumblebee from stinging to protect itself when attacked.

Just don't be suprised when it stings your ass.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:11 | 4179589 nonclaim
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And tomorrow senator Reid will propose something like Maduro's dictator power for Obama.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:23 | 4179625 Running On Bing...
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Hail to The Führer.


Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:12 | 4179592 tallen
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"Exchange operator CME Group Inc. (CME) reduced the amount of collateral required to trade the benchmark gold and silver futures contracts on Thursday."

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:15 | 4179602 PiratePiggy
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The issue of the transient majority became a major issue after the Constitution was changed to eliminate the state governments and bypass them completely. It had been that the state governments would provide the Senators to Washington and the Senators were accountable to them rather than to the press and the transientory winds of public opinion.


We are following Hitler's example of an elected leader and his cronies deciding to do whatever they want because they have backers, spies and guns.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:13 | 4179748 ghengis86
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Was that the 17th Amendment? The state assemblies would choose the Senators to represent the states rights. Now it's just a popularity contest cum circle jerk.


Fri, 11/22/2013 - 00:16 | 4180129 A Nanny Moose
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Yes...17A. We've long since devolved into Demockracy. The Republic is dead. Long live the Republic.

..with thunderous applause.

I hate when the shitty Star Wars prequel soap operas are right.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:15 | 4179603 Anonymouse
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It's too bad Daniel Hannan is a Brit.  I'd vote for him in a second.

He understand America better than 99.99% of the population

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:55 | 4179712 sablya
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He may be British but he has greater respect for the Constitution than does our own President.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 04:15 | 4180512 CuttingEdge
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Given that the US currently has a Kenyan in charge, since when did nationality matter?

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:16 | 4179606 lailapa
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Global Debt Crisis - The greatest private fraud of human history.

Who are the great fraudsters who are becoming the murderers of the human kind?

How does the economy "illness" threaten Democracy and the freedom of people?

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:17 | 4179610 medium giraffe
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The people demand that the constitution may only be re-written using html.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:20 | 4179613 Pig Circus
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This is nothing but a Gun Grab. The bastards are about to pack the court. Then O'DipShit will sign a executive order banning guns. The Cunts on the courts will rule it constitutional. FDR threatened to pack the S.C less they rule his way. History is rhyming Boys and Girls.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:35 | 4179653 Running On Bing...
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Fuck you gun grabbers!


Fri, 11/22/2013 - 10:42 | 4180904 odatruf
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I agree with an upthread comment. Those guns are never coming into play so there is no need to fear or grab them.


Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:20 | 4179616 seek
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They keep heading in this direction and soon they won't even have even the trappings of legitimacy. (They lost real legitimacy long ago, but they at leasted dotted the i's and crossed the t's.) Care is needed to keep the trappings around, since without them it creates an argument against them that increases in credibility with each unlawful act.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 01:15 | 4180271 WOAR
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They don't need trappings when the populous is ignorant.

The average viewer of Oprah has no idea what the rule of law is, anyway. They just want to look under their chair and get a free sandwich.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:20 | 4179618 OwnSilverPlayMusic
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Eh might as well just join the other banana republics and start the American Union.  It's in all the white papers anyway....Definetly not inevitable, but the american people would have to show some spine first.  Between the FSA and the NFL I'm not holding my breath. 

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:23 | 4179624 surf0766
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What does the term marxist mean to you now.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:36 | 4179654 NOTaREALmerican
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Re:  What does the term marxist mean to you now.

Same as it did last week.   An economic system were the state owns the means of production.

The corporations own the state here.  Why don't you pick of a goddamn book or at least read the goddamn wiki link about what Marxism means.

The US is a corporate fascist state, and has been for some time now.   The corporations wrote the RomneyCare law you hate so much.  

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:44 | 4179836 Everybodys All ...
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Here all along I thought the Democrats were for the little guys and they let the evil corporations write the Obamacare law. Well I'll be damn. Guess it's time to roll out the single payer plan Oblowme invisioned all along in order to save us from those evil insurance companies.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:27 | 4179632 Dre4dwolf
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I dont understand why this president insists on continuing to make a fool of himself, why doesn't he sit down and shutup and finish off his term, its not like he does anything but play golf and go to Disney land while the rest of the country is being over-run by bankers anyway.


Obama, here is a clue, the country is falling apart fast enough on its own, it doesn't need you to accelerate its demise.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:36 | 4179657 NoDebt
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He's not running for reelection again yet he continues to do 2-3 fundraisers a week.  Money he does not share with the DNC.  Why do you think that would be?

Like Heisenberg, he's not going anywhere.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:59 | 4179721 DanDaley
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Would that he were more like the Hindenberg than the Heisenberg.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:49 | 4180039 Dr. Engali
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You really think this guy is done after two terms? The constitution is being shredded on a daily basis. The only way he will be leaving office is if he's drug out.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 03:10 | 4180461 zebrasquid
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Hillary and Bill will make sure he leaves on time.
And, by then the whole country would welcome Presidente providing a reason
to drag his ass down Pennsylvania Avenue and dump him in with the other effluent at Blue Plains..

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 04:44 | 4180528 Bloodstock
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About the only truthful thing Obama ever said was that he was going to transform America. It's his (puppet masters') plan.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:38 | 4179666 grid-b-gone
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He swore to uphold The Constitution a couple different times, and did so with his hand on the Bible he claims represents the instructions of the God who guides his life.

Apparently, only cigarettes trump his free will. Everything else is subject to it.  

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:55 | 4179707 Pig Circus
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"and did so with his hand on the Bible"

Don't count he's a Muzzie. Kind of like having your fingers crossed.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 14:06 | 4181506 yofish
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Nice avatar, which one is you?

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 21:50 | 4179697 Mentaliusanything
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The Constitution is a document, agreed and ratfied, limiting the powers of a state or government such that a protection is granted by law to prevent misuse of power or usurpation of rights. The US constitution was formed basically to back up the declaration of independence so it is made clear that no one person, corporation, military or court of law can issue any edict that removes the enshrined rights of the people.

It is the Law of Laws and should be held in upmost respect because it does not differentiate between class color creed or religion. 

If the current President does not like it or it frustrates his plans, then those plans are found to be wanting of good stewardship, as he has vowed to up hold them, so help me God.

He is become impeachable and a danger to the citizens of a once great land, once well governed now brought and paid for. Time is not on your side, nor is tide.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:09 | 4179736 sgorem
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thankyou metal', very well put forth, +1000

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:04 | 4179723 WTFUD
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If it's possible for the cabal to boldly go into the dark continent and persuade folks to put up a picture of a white long haired hippy looking dude on their wall and 100 years later persuade the amurikans to vote in a non american president then why are we sat here discussing the ' rules of engagement? '

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:15 | 4179755 Dr. Bonzo
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He studied law so he would know how to dismantle it. Him and every other lawyer.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:41 | 4179827 Teddy Tenpole
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I can sum this political system up in one kick ass rock album (please listen in it's entirety to fully comprehend):


Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:41 | 4179988 22winmag
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Hitler was pretty good at usurping legal power for a while too... until he ended up in a bunker with a self-inflicted bullet in his brain.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 01:54 | 4180351 mick_richfield
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He died in Argentina in 1958.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:48 | 4180031 DrData02
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EVERY fuckingbody understands the US Constitution better than Obama! 

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:55 | 4180060 ramacers
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hannan is from the " if it looks like a duck............" school.

blood is evitable folks. adapt.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 00:05 | 4180087 Jack Burton
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The constitution lays down filibuster rules. Like the super majority clause? Please, lets see that bit. Fucking team red versus team blue. Bullshit!

The senate has the right to vote to change filibuster rules. Republicans got the super majority rules passed, you saying that was NOT their right. Or are you saying democrats can't change super majority filibuster rules by a senate vote?

Seriously, take this team red and team blue shit and shove it. If this act was legal, and it was 100% legal and constitutional, be a fucking man, and admit it, instead of team red talking point lies, you are AS bad as the wrost fucking democrats.

All people who buy into this fake two party shit, at this point in history, are brainwashed and foolish. One party, all the rest is a hoax to get you all worked up.

Learn the Senate rules if you plan on making claims about unconstitutional. How do you thik super majority filibuster became a senate rule. That's right! It was voted on, just like the new rule was voted on! Jesus. I am losing faith in the ZH crowd, buying into this team red and blue shit.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 03:28 | 4180472 Manipuflation
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Jack, I like your posts.  Don't give up just yet.  I know that ZH is not what it once was but you need to know that we are still out there.  It's not all ZHers but also some former MWers that are getting it done.  We have piss pounded these asshole electorate constituents in any way we could and we have made some progress since 2007.  It is starting to matter in that they know who we are now.  What would you do otherwise?  Keep blogging Sir.  They will have to deal with us eventually.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 08:38 | 4180696 Zadig
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Rather than being depressed at how many people are left to convert, I prefer to be optimistic that so many people have already been converted.  Even if only 5% of the population agrees with us now, that's still about 5 times higher than it was 20 years ago.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 01:06 | 4180253 pavman
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You know, we can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans...

-Bill Clinton, March 1, 1993

Remarks and a Question-and-Answer Session at the Adult Learning Center in New Brunswick, New Jersey,


Seems like the Democrats all agree: Rights are bad.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 01:25 | 4180296 baldski
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Yea, you look like a caveman!

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 03:03 | 4180456 Manipuflation
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"Bankers run the show." 

Sweet, I managed to do it in 19 characters.:-)  What do I need a Twitter account for again?

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 03:45 | 4180485 The Heart
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Fall in line!

Retired Army General Calling For The Forced Resignation Of Obama:


Fri, 11/22/2013 - 05:04 | 4180542 smacker
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I wish Daniel Hannan also advocated a proper written constitution for Britain.

Without that - and him being a member of the Conservative Party, which supports ever more government and bastardised economics just like the Labour Party - his credentials of being in favour of small, limited and accountable government are always in doubt.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 05:25 | 4180560 tom
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Ooops. Filibusters are not in the Constitution.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 10:16 | 4180842 overmedicatedun...
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the flow of immigration over the last 200 years has determined the type of government we live under..a country of mostly of european transplants, produced the USA of 1900. as more peoples were imported, our nation changed..jews become more acceptable, negro's rights become obvious, small wars became more frequent, then the rise of international banks and corporations made an impact..rapid illegal and legal immigration from non western european stock sky rocketed (as the last president to enforce the border was the same one who told us to fear the military industrial complex)..with the rapid increase from Asia and non english speaking peoples, we could not expect that a government based on western tradition would continue..this was understood by the CFR and NWO elites, immigration is and was the tool to bring us to this state.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 17:02 | 4182213 Vin
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You know what would be hysterical?  If a patriot was elected president and then used all the laws instituted by the collectivists to declare an emergency and then arrest and kill all the traitors that have abused our nation.  How ironic.  That would be a day to celebrate.

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