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Guest Post: The New World Order – Part 1. The Betrayal Of The Nation

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Originally posted at Golem XIV blog,

In every country I can think of, the sovereignty and wealth of the Nation, which was once the embodiment of the power and will of the people,  is being butchered and sold to the highest bidder. Everywhere, the Nation and the people within it, are under attack. Not from without by terrorists but from within. Because in every country the people who run the State have largely decided they no longer wish to serve the people but prefer instead to serve the interests of a Global Over-Class.

Of course we are not encouraged to see this clearly or if we do, certainly not to speak of it to others. And many of those we might try to talk to, do not want to hear.

Many of us prefer instead to find what warmth we can in the false and threadbare beliefs fed to us by the quisling elite of the State and their close friends and allies in a rigged and corrupted ‘free’ market. Together they tell us that whole functions of our nation which we built and treasure, are no longer viable because they are at odds with the ‘realities’ of a global economy. The more ideological of them proclaim that the state, whenever and wherever it tries to do good, will always and by necessity do harm. The more ‘realist’ among them tell us that once inalienable liberties, must now be curtailed or suspended in the name of defending the ‘nation’ from outside enemies. And yet I want to argue it is now, not ever us or the nation that is being defended or empowered.  It is always and everywhere a small elite who own and control both the State and the Markets who are being defended.

In my view, we are, in most industrialized countries, watching the machinery of the State being used to betray the Nation in favour of global finance and the elite who own it. It is a familiar betrayal in the third world. One we have all watched with sordid complacently as the wealth of nation after nation is gutted for the benefit of the few. The disease is now with us.

I want to make it clear, as I have before, that I am neither libertarian nor anarchist and therefore have no ideological distrust of the State. In my opinion, there have been times and places, when the machinery of the State did animate and represent some of the wishes of the at least some of the people – of the Nation. There have been instances when the State was, in many, though certainly not in all ways, the means by which the great ideal, of government of the people, by the people, for the people, was made real. The creation of the National Health Service in Great Britain is one shining example.

I think that great ideal of government by and for the people is being butchered – for profit. The Nation-State is dying, because any given arrangement of power can be corrupted and will be, by those who benefit from it most – those who hold its powers – in this case the powers of the State  - IF people cringingly let them. And that it what we are doing.

We are allowing the elite of the State, to convince us that we are ‘all in it together’, and to claim that our interests and their interests are still one and the same. But they are not. And we must come to see this clearly – and soon. As long as we deny the truth, that they are not standing ‘with us’, and do not have our best interests at heart – until we can face these self evident but chilling truths, then we are never going to see them for what they have become nor see their actions for what they are.

I think it is critical that we disentangle in our minds the State and the interests of those who control it, from those of what I am calling the Nation. The State and the Nation are not the same. They are, in fact, at war.

The Propaganda War

Our problem and their advantage is that it is deeply ingrained in us to see the State and the Nation as almost interchangeable. The very name, ‘The Nation State’ inclines us to believe that the State and Nation are one and therefore that any action taken by the State, no matter how harsh or unfair it might seem to us, must necessarily be for our good. It allows those who control the State to hide their narrow selfish interests behind a smokescreen of talk about the Nation.

This intentional confusion of Nation and State is everywhere in reporting about global finance and trade.

Battle lines drawn for EU-US trade talks

Cried a recent headline in the Telegraph. To me, it reads intentionally like an old fashioned report of a war.  Wars of any sort are fantastically useful for the elite of the State because wars, better than anything else, encourage people to collapse the State and the Nation together in their minds. Faced with an external enemy it is the State and those who guide it, who marshal our defenses and face the enemy.  And so we are encouraged to assume that when the EU and the US meet it will be ‘our side’ fighting for us, against theirs. But will it?

In reality it will be unelected, largely un-named trade representatives supported and surrounded by a legion of  lawyers, advisors and lobbyists, nearly all of whom will be recently seconded from or still in the pay of global corporations,  who will meet behind closed doors to negotiate in secret. Whose interests will they be fighting for?

They, with the help of a largely supine and grovelling media, will claim to be there for you.  They will be decked out in flags and called by the names of our nations or national groupings, such as the EU. But the truth will be otherwise. Behind the national name plate a largely unseen machinery will be almost entirely corporate. Both sides will be there to seek advantage, not for you the people, not for the nations whose flags they use as camouflage , but for the corporations who pay them. The US delegation will seek advantage for US based global corporations and the EU delegation will seek advanage for EU based global corporations. Both sides will be hailed victorious.  The real question – very carefully never ever raised by the compliant media –  will be who lost? And the answer, studiously unreported, will be the ordinary people of both sides.

The object of the whole endeavour is to roll back soveriegn protections and powers in favour of an ‘unregulated’, unfettered, free market. How can I make such a sweeping claim? Because we have seen the results of over 200 previous Free Trade Agreements which these same people have negotiated and agreed previously. Just think of NAFTA.

If you think those agreements have benefited you, rather than, as I claim, the global corporations parasitical upon your nation and mine , then show me the proof. Don’t trot out platitudes about increased GDP without showing me who owns that GDP.  Don’t bore me with text-book clap trap about how much corporations contribute unless you show me how much tax those corporations actually pay versus how much they quite legally move off-shore to low tax or no tax havens. Show me figures. I challenge you.

In part two I will return to this, and to explain what Bilateral trade Agreements are and what extrordinary and completely anti-democratic new power the State has given to corporations to over-rule Nations and to sue them for democratic decisions corporations do not like.

For now lets move from trade and finance to the actions of the machinery of State itself.

The NSA: Is It American, or British? 

Is the title of a recent paper written by Edward Spannaus at Executive Intelligence Review.

What makes the author think the NSA’s primary loyalty is to either, other than simply being used to thinking they must be? The NSA and its UK counterpart, GCHQ,  exist in thoir respective nations but is it really sensible to assume they feel loyal to the people who live there? And yet the author and his paper, like so many who are trying to understand what is going on around us, are stuck in the logic of what I think is now a world gone by.

If you were to ask someone from the NSA or GCHQ who they worked for would they immediately say, ‘the people’ or would they say ‘the NSA’ or ‘GCHQ’?

All those organs of power whose names and acronyms we are familiar with exist officially as servants of the… well of the what? Of the People? Of the Nation? Or of the State? Once power is created, it does not have to remain loyal to its creators. Any organization will come over time, as ambition eclipses morality, to regard its own survival and rise to greater power as paramount.  Its original purpose will be drowned in a rising tide of inward looking ambition and greed for power.

It is my contention that we have become so used to the word and the idea of ‘the Nation-State’ that we have forgotten it is a compound of two very different things.

One more example, as quoted at Zerohedge,

Melissa Harris-Perry, from the otherwise progressive cable channel MSNBC, critized Snowden’s behavior as “compromising national security.”

But is it really National Security Mr Snowden compromised or State Security? When someone appeals to ‘National Security’ the unspoken assumption is that they are talking about your security and mine.  We, after all, are ‘the Nation’.  But I wonder if Mr Snowden might be more accurately described as having compromised the State’s security rather than the Nation’s. Which doesn’t sound nearly as good, does it? State security has a ring of the Stasi about it. And for good reason. Protecting the interests and security of the State is quite different from protecting the interests of the people who make up the Nation. One is about protecting you and me. The other is more about protecting the position, power and wealth of those who make up the State and its various organs of power. State security is about the security of the jobs and social postion of those who are ‘the State’. It is about the security of a particuar arrangement of power and those who benefit from that arrangement.  Which one does the NSA or GCHQ serve? Which did Mr Snowden really compromise by revealing the extent of the NSA’s and GCHQ’s indiscriminate and unlawful spying upon ordinary and innocent citizens?

If we wish to hold on to the fiction that the NSA and GCHQ work for their respective Nations then how do we explain that the people we elect, even very senior members of the State, even within the government of the day, had NO idea what the NSA or GCHQ were doing? Certainly the NSA and GCHQ were financed by us, and draw their original legitimacy from us, but they no longer answer to those who we elect. So who do they answer to? To what are they loyal and to whom do they report?

Think of how different ‘One Nation under God’ sounds from “One State under God”.

My point is that we are so used to thinking of the State – our elected officials and the machinery that carries out their wishes, as being part of the Nation, loyal to it and us, that we are not seeing clearly that this relationship has ended. I am not saying that the old relationship between Nation/People, State and Market has altogether gone. It has not. Not everyone in the State has forsaken their old loyalties. We are in a moment of transition. But I am saying we need to see the new relationship more clearly, if we possibly can, because only then can we defend ourselves.

We are at war, we need to know who our real enemies are and take up arms against them.

The New World Order

While everyone agrees you cannot stuff a square peg into a round hole, when it comes to the new and unfamiliar, humans have a dreadful habit of trying. I think this is particularly true at the moment. The world is changing, a new order of things is taking shape around us but we are loathed to see it because we insist on trying to see everything through the lens of the previous world order.

The old order was laid out from left to right: Communist to Libertarian. From those who felt the State was there to guarantee certain protections and provide a minimum of welfare and service, over to those who felt any intervention from the State was no more than an abuse of power by a group of self serving insiders. Largely this is still the range of thought and opinion. Those on the Left see the Free Market as the greatest danger to liberty, welfare, justice and fairness, and regard the State as our best protection against it. While on the Right the fears are exactly the same but the State is now the great danger and the market the best protection. Each side regards the other as hopelessly, even criminally, misguided. Each side sees the other advocating that which will bring disaster.

Into this sterile and suffocating tweedledumness a new ideology and power has grown. It is neither Libertarian nor Left, but has been called both. The Libertarians have seen how eagerly and constantly this new politics intervenes in and distorts the market and cries “Socialism”. Which, it has to be said, makes anyone who knows anything about Socialism gasp with amazement. Nevertheless you can read this ‘it’s socialism’ opinion in most of the right wing press and on most blogs where Libertarians comment, such as ZeroHedge or The Ticker.

On the other hand the Left sees the way the new politics intervenes on behalf of and protects the interests of the wealthy (The financial class and global corporations) doing nothing about tax avoidance, nothing to regulate the banks, insisting instead that the only answer is more free market, less regulation and austerity to be borne by those least able to bear it – and sees clear evidence that this new politics is right wing and libertarian.

Both sides seems only able to see things in terms of the labels and world view they are used to and as a consequence see nearly nothing at all. The truth, I suggest, is that we are at a moment when an entire cultural form is ending. At such times it is not one part or another, government or market, which corrupts and breaks, which betrays the values it was meant to embody and ceases to do the job for which it was created, it is all parts at once. All parts of our society have become corrupted.

We must move beyond the politics of the last century, seeking to blame all ills on a corrupt and captured State or alternatively on a corrupt, captured and rigged market. BOTH are true. Both are corrupt. Neither is working for us. A new elite exists in every nation, has control over every State but which has no loyalty to the Nation of people in which it exists any more than a tape worm is loyal to the creature in whose body it feeds and grows.

The New World Order has its own ideology which does not fit happily on the old left to right axis.

The new ideology is not fully formed yet, but already it is clear that it is not Libertarian because unlike Libertarianism, the new ideology believes the State should be very powerful and large and should intervene. But neither is it Socialist, because unlike the Left the new ideology believes those interventions should be on behalf of the wealthy not the poor.

It’s a new world. We need to see it anew.

In Part Two I will look in more detail at what I merely introduced almost in passing in this introduction: the new and rapidly mutating and evolving ideology in the world of Finance,  in particular at Bilateral Investment Treaties which are the real danger point inside the Trade Agreements currently being negotaited.  And  the mutation of the security and Intelligence world into something that spies upon Nations rather than working for them, in the serivce of a new ‘Greater Good’.


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Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:04 | 4179727 FreeMktFisherMN
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The state is nothing but an organized system of theft and coercion.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:12 | 4179744 stocktivity
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Blah, blah, if we didn't know 16000 Dow wasn't in Benny's sight. It's all Bullshit!!!!

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:20 | 4179771 carlin401
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Good point, thanks for bringing us back to reality.

QE to infinite, we're all going to become trillionaires like Zimbabwe, and BTC will go to a Million $Bernank''s or $Yellens cuz Blodget say's so.

Nobody cares about these little piss ant groups fighting over the hearts and minds of morons.

What matters is the BIG picture, and that picture is the punch bowel is far from empty, that the USA/ISRAEL will NUKE arab/persia, and that there is another 200 good years for the FED to print to infinite, and as always the world will bow to the USA, because majority of the world 'respects power', and those that are willing to use it.

Take Russia, to date the most respected man in Russian history is Stalin, because absolute dictatorial power is really the hard-on for every ape-man(human being), altrusim will not even get you a free condom.

The USA promises everyone unlimited wealth, and if you work FED(eral gubmint), then all the riches in heaven will be yours.




Will this ponzi ever end? Not in our life time, it took 1500 years for the Roman coin to become so fucking worthless that farmers quick sending wheat to make bread to rome.


Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:24 | 4179784 So What
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The state can be good and serves the people if it is run by good men. But good men shunt politic because being a politician means losing your soul. Once elected in office, you have to swear allegiance to Israhell. Tell me if George Washington or Franklin, or Madison, or Jefferson would ever ever do something like that.
But all the politicians now a day swear this oath with glee. No wonder this country is going down the toilet.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:28 | 4179795 carlin401
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Franklin was a pedophile, fact.

GW and Madison were asshols.

Lincoln was an asshole.




Only assholes run for public office, and 'good men' are fucking where?

You have to be an asshole to run a corporation or a gubmint.

Good men stay home to be hen pecked by their wives.

If there was ever a fucking urban myth, is that of the good man.


Men of power care only about PUSSY, and MORE PUSSY. Men of power go to gubmint, church, corporation, or the MOB.


Founding father understood the nature of man well, the trouble is political correct morons today, have little understand of the REAL MAN.


Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:43 | 4179834 So What
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And you're the biggest asshole of all.
I have pussy, lot of it, different kinds so I don't think about pussy. Only a frustrated twat like yourself can open your filthy hole, and immediately your obsession with pussy comes.
Get a life you dumb asshole.
There are other things real men care about than the common shits you can't even get.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:00 | 4179862 carlin401
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Nope, I live in Asia, and I have all the pussy I could possibly want.

But this wasn't my point.


My point was that men of power are driven by pussy, this is a well established point going back to Norman Vincent Peale and all that genre of men who establish power.


The sex drive is a man's MOST important  driving force in nature, ... look at dogs or lions, ... all there madness for power is the sex drive.


I'm a scientist, so hardly do I spend my day thinking of sex, but I think it needs to be said clearly that MEN OF POWER are alpha males and they want sex, if you don't understand this then your a fucking Orwellian Delta.



Come to earth folks. Why does the NSA spy in your bed room? What brought down Petrayus ? Pussy

How did J Edgar Hoover bring down and control the US government? Sex

If we're going to have an honest discussion about NSA spying and NWO then we have to be open to the SEX subject,

Look at Obama a bath house boy who loves to fuck men in the ass, this is why he wanted to become prez, .. its all about the power to fuck anyone you wish.



Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:04 | 4179893 IndyPat
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In your words and obvious tenuous grasp on the language....

You're an asshol

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:41 | 4180010 carlin401
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For a BOT you seem at a loss for words.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 04:26 | 4180521 tenpanhandle
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For a scientist you don't sound very scientific.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 05:35 | 4180566 Truthseeker2
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The REAL betrayal began here:


"Not only did all the aforementioned parties gain by the coup d’etat which abruptly removed Kennedy from power, so did many other silent powerbrokers and influence peddlers, financiers and bankers, industrialists and corporate magnates. All told, the political/economic bloc of players who would rather see JFK gone was so large and extensive that the conspiracy of silence really needed no enforcement. Who, after all, would want to leave the reservation knowing that they would never get back on it. That is, if they even lived to tell their story.

When the global power structure is so heavily weighted toward an outcome, there is no stopping it. Such was the case with JFK’s unseemly dismissal. Those in power at the time, who were sympathetic to the war economy cause, were enlisted to what ever degree appropriate depending on their official positions. In the case of LBJ, he controlled all the right assets to ensure an efficient and wrinkle-free coup d’etat. His contacts throughout Congress, the state of Texas, industry and commerce, as well as law enforcement guaranteed that he would get off scot-free. And so it appears that he did, until Nixon aide Roger Stone appeared on the scene."

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 08:44 | 4180706 Ar-Pharazôn
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i understand your point.


just look cats. when they fight for sex they can be hurt really badly, even life threatening inujuries.


when they fight for their territory it's just matter of bruises.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:11 | 4179911 putaipan
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fuck you both- this is what A REAL MAN sounds like-!prettyPhotogallery/2/

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:39 | 4180001 PT
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Idea for a bumper sticker:  "If you won't let me fish then you owe me fish."

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:51 | 4180047 y3maxx
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WE THE PEOPLE, NOT WE THE COURT, OR WE THE GOVT...!prettyPhoto[gallery]/1/

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 00:05 | 4180090 n8dawg84
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My God, that was amazing!  What happened in that courtroom?  I feel like it's something I should know and understand.  I just feel like a lot of that went over my head

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 04:42 | 4180526 tenpanhandle
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What happened was the "living soil" spoke.  Shut down that admiralty court like a visitation of the plague.  That was awesome.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 06:21 | 4180578 tenpanhandle
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n8dawg4 - what you witnessed in that video was a person who never participated or removed himself from Federal Citizenship and has established himself as a resident of these several states.  In this country, the Constitution has been usurped by the UCC (Universal Commercial Code) and common law trumped by admiralty law.  By removing yourself from this jurisdiction you can gain back freedoms that have been stripped by all the codes, rules and regulations that have been placed on our society by virtue of "voluntary" acceptance of benefits /pseudo benefits with their attached poison (explained in the fine print).  This includes getting a Social Security#, use of Federal Reserve Notes, paying income taxes, applying for and receiving licenses for things you already have a right to do etc, etc.  In essance one is entering into contracts with the State (Federal Govt with capitalized letters as opposed to these several states with no capital lettering) that become binding and that is where the UCC  law (contract law) takes over and controls you.  It is the difference between a Citizen (Federal Citizen) or a citizen (resident of these several states).  If one resides in Washington D.C. or is a naturalized Citizen one is automatically and irrevocably a Federal Citizen.

Most of us in USA have become Federal Citizens and opting out is a tough row to hoe as was experienced by the "Freeman" of Montana in the 1980's and 90's.  You can't do it half way.  You have to walk the walk.  The guy in the video obviously walks the walk so when he talks the talk, the local bureaucrats end up cringing.  They knew that they had no jurisdiction over him and knew they would be personally liable for forcing anything on him and therefore violating his truely held constitutional rights.

There is a book called "Vultures in Eagles Clothing" that is a beginners guide to all this.  Please excuse that this explanation carries generalities and probably some errors or misstated points.  Hope it helps. 

Hint:  It is worth knowing even if you probably would not try to apply it within your own life - at least at this time.  Also, as you learn what has happened to us and our country, you will feel amazed and enlightened and wish to share this with your friends, family and co-workers.  Your friends, family and co-workers do not want to know this information and your persistance will alienate them.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 10:43 | 4180907 chumbawamba
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Close.  A citizen is domiciled in one of these several states; a resident is one who will one day return home to their domicile.  And Federal citizenship is revocable, whether one is born here or naturalized (same difference, really).

I saw this same video yesterday except it was supposedly some guy in a Montana courtroom.  I don't think Manhattan would have a one room court in an office building.

At any rate, what this guy did was invoke natural law in ecclesiastical jurisdiction.  Check out:

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 11:00 | 4180947 Cannon Fodder
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You mentioned Washington DC. Is there any implications or reasons beind the fact that the United States capital is in a "district" and not in a "state"?

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 01:56 | 4180357 Son of Captain Nemo
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If i could up ^ you a thousand for that I would.

Why nobody in the MSM has the intestinal fortitude to make this story go viral is obvious.

Thank you for posting this

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 07:02 | 4180610 JoBob
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Wonderful!  "You do NOT OWN ME!"

He is the first truly FREE man I have seen!



Fri, 11/22/2013 - 09:07 | 4180710 daemon
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 " Only assholes run for public office, and 'good men' are fucking where? "

" If there was ever a fucking urban myth, is that of the good man. "

You may have some point here, but you should try to stop thinking in "static" terms (like good or bad), they inevitably lead to a moralistic, "absolutist" point of view. People, contrary to how they perceive themselves, are not "immutable isolated islands", they are not only DNA. They are evolving expression of DNA in an environment. For 'I' to exist, there must be 'You' . Try to see dynamic, cybernetic processes at work .


" Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men. "

John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:42 | 4179831 Anusocracy
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The State can never be good because it's basis is the initiation of force.

The not quite human people aren't equipped to understand that fact.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:01 | 4179884 carlin401
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The basis of government is beating, killing and imprisoning - austrian econ 101


Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:03 | 4179888 AlaricBalth
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I know many on ZH have read Edward Bernays' Propaganda and the techniques used by the "invisible governors". For those who haven't, here is a link.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 08:40 | 4180700 Ar-Pharazôn
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and tell me...


the roman coin was made of worthless paper? were the romans living in a digital era where information need 1 second to go from japan to europe?



Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:26 | 4179752 johngaltfla
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After today's usurping of the Constitution, if is far, far, worse than that:


R.I.P. USA November 21, 2013

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:18 | 4179927 Crawdaddy
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Thanks for the link JGFLA. Agree. The nuke senate option is a big deal. FYI your "Day the dollar died" series was epic.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 00:08 | 4180099 Gankfest
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The forums are full of jobless fat kids who do nothing more than state problems rather than solutions... cough*

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:06 | 4179728 LetThemEatRand
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"The new ideology is not fully formed yet, but already it is clear that it is not Libertarian because unlike Libertarianism, the new ideology believes the State should be very powerful and large and should intervene. But neither is it Socialist, because unlike the Left the new ideology believes those interventions should be on behalf of the wealthy not the poor."

Facsism.  Neo-feudalism.   A rose by any other name.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:10 | 4179738 carlin401
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"when fascism comes to america it will be gift wrapped with an american flag" - smedly butler, 1932


The USA has been full fascist since the 1700's.


The republic under Hamilton, agreed from day one that the nation would be ruled by the 'monied interest', aka corporations.



Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:14 | 4179919 Oldwood
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Laws are enacted to either preserve one's wealth or to take another's. Wealthy land owners were not terribly excited about creating a constitution that would enable the majority to remove their wealth. A sustainable system is one that balances injustices and when powers attempt to remove those injustices, an imbalance occurs creating what we have today.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:54 | 4180054 carlin401
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The original founding fathers made sure their shit was safe,

It was Lincoln that started stealing (illegal taxes),

Then in 1918 FED ( more illegal taxes ) made the big leap from Hamiltonian Democracy to Kleptocracy, and its been downhill ever since.


But its stupid to talk about 200+ years ago, and fucking irrelevant, we must deal with the fucking assholes that are our masters today.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:23 | 4179781 Crawdaddy
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As a founding member of the "Leave Me the Fuck Alone" Party, I concur. My ideology is fully formed. Leave me alone, don't touch my shit, if you need help - ask.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:04 | 4179892 johnQpublic
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i would like to become a member of your party

i dont need or want anything

just to be left the fuck alone

if anyone needs help, get it from crawdaddy

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:11 | 4179910 Crawdaddy
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Welcome aboard. You are a full member now. All you had to do was ask. Next step - See rule 1.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:27 | 4179957 The Thunder Child
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I was going to ask for a subscription to your "Leave Me The Fuck Alone" newsletter but in reality I just want to be left the fuck lone. If I donate $5 to your party can you send me a "Leave Me The Fuck Alone" pin and honorary membership?

After know what to do.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:45 | 4180025 Crawdaddy
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All the volunteers for the subscription/bumper sticker campaign decided they would rather go fishing than read mail so that whole "campaign response" metric kind of went to shit.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 02:41 | 4180428 Excursionist
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On a halfway serious note, this article contained in the first few paragraphs a point about the author's being neither a libertarian nor anarchist presumably to help establish credibility and rationality.  I piss on the notion that libertarians are necessarily synonymous with anarchists.  Or that they're even kissing cousins.

The political compass is nothing if not a mosaic of a nearly infinite number of gradations, and I'd self-identify as a resident of its northern region (i.e., libertarian).  That doesn't mean I lack attachment to my community, mercilessly espouse Darwinistic principles, posses a cabin in the Pacific Northwest from where I send mail bombs and abhor giving a helping hand to community members in (temporary) need.

The author should lay off propagating the caricatures.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 09:23 | 4180743 Zadig
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People take their labels very seriously and tend to stop listening once they know you represent a bad (i.e. not theirs) label.  A major step towards enlightenment is getting people to state what they actually believe, rather than which faux tribal group makes them feel special.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 08:53 | 4180715 Ar-Pharazôn
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i love your party.


can i jump in too?

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:13 | 4179746 carlin401
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Executive Intelligence Review.

The Larouchies are here, and will not be leaving the building.

Well according to them its the 'catholics', which of course means that Larouche has to be working for AIPAC.




Why does ZH post this Larouche stuff? Just to take our eye off of AIPAC & BIS?



Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:18 | 4179764 LetThemEatRand
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Some of the Tylers seemingly believe in Rand/Larouche.  Or at least they like to throw red meat out for the many here who do.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:24 | 4179785 carlin401
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On a   continuum of idealogy the Randians and the Larouchians couldn't be more farther apart.


Why not bring the Shriners, and the McCarthyists's from the 1950's?  Where is blogger-fodder about the crazy orthodox jews of brooklyn? and their crazy ideas?


and for gawds sakes why does the tylers not give us a steady diet of scientology?

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:31 | 4179801 LetThemEatRand
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LaRouhce interview:

"13. What do you think of Ayn Rand?

LaRouche: A mentally disturbed personality, like her devotee, the sometime Chairman of the Federal Reserve System, Alan Greenspan."


Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:52 | 4179853 carlin401
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Yes, I'm well aware that Larouche hates Ayn Rand, I used to read LaRouche frequently back  in the 1960's.

You know back then we all KNEW that LaRouche was CIA !



Greenspan was a nobody that became a somebody, thanks to his brown nosing, not unlike Ron Paul, they all talked the talk, but none of them ever held the Job to be a real GALT.

I am John Galt.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:00 | 4179880 LetThemEatRand
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Good for you, John.  If you read LaRouche in the '60's, you are probably retired.  Let's say you were 20 in the 1969.  That would make you in your early 60's.  Need I mention that retiring is not quite "Galting?"  It's more like living off of the fake system you helped build.  But if it makes you feel better to call retirement and living off the system you claim you detest "going Galt," that would say a lot about your ideology.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:13 | 4179916 IndyPat
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Goddamnit, LTER.....stop feeding the fucking trolls.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:25 | 4179947 carlin401
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why are you still a wage slave?

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:34 | 4179980 IndyPat
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Eat me, fuckface....troll elsewhere

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:23 | 4179941 carlin401
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I went Galt when I was under 35, ... and I was reading La Rouche when I was less than years old, and Ayn Rand, and Bircher shit it was everywhere back in the day.

I was one of those kids making LSD, nitro-glycerine, and shit when I was 10 years old, taught my self chemistry  and math, and started XXXX-univ when I was 14 years old, Finished my first grad degree before twenty went big oil, started my first company before 24, and always knew I wanted out before 35.


Even when I was 15 years old I understood the Ayn Random maxim that "What they don't steal and leave you with, they tax", ...

Yep, after building many companys I and said "FUCK YOU AMERICA"

Made good on all taxes due, and never earned a dime since.


Why do you assume just because we're old that we just did a 'galt' yesterday? I did my galt over 20+ years ago,


Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:36 | 4179985 IndyPat
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You're so full of shit.
You're earning your useless Benny Bucks right now...trolling away for CyberCom

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:56 | 4180063 BigJim
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He's old & retired but he's still obsessed with PUSSY?

Poor old fucker... nothing sadder than a wrinkly old satyromaniac, secretly popping the blue pills...

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 00:09 | 4180105 carlin401
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Petrayus, Obama, J Edgar Hoover,

All the power in the USA has always been about pussy (sex).

All of Obama's pal's in Chicago, all lead to the same fucking 'gay bathhouse', even Reverend Wright took Obama under his wing, like a Pirate takes a cabin-boy.

What are you a fucking eunuch?

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 01:08 | 4180263 michael_engineer
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Near as I can tell, what you bring to the table is mostly criticism.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:35 | 4179815 bunnyswanson
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"You may say that the GOYIM will rise upon us, arms in hand, if they guess what is going on before the time comes; but in the WEST we have against this a manoeuvre of such appalling terror that the very stoutest hearts quail - the undergrounds, metropolitans, those subterranean corridors which, before the time comes, will be driven under all the capitals and from whence those capitals will be blown into the air with all their organizations and archives."

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:31 | 4179800 bunnyswanson
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[This "Snake" is now being drawn through the Americas and in the United States of America, it is been partially identified as the "Counsel on Foreign Relations" (C.F.R.) and the "Tri-Lateral Commission"]

Who are the Elders?

Protocol I The Basic Doctrine
Protocol II Economic Wars
Protocol III Methods of Conquest
Protocol IV Materialism Replaces Religion
Protocol V Despotism and Modern Progress
Protocol VI Take-Over Technique
Protocol VII World-Wide Wars
Protocol VIII Provisional Government
Protocol IX Re-education
Protocol X Preparing for Power
Protocol XI The Totalitarian State
Protocol XII Control of the Press
Protocol XIII Distractions
Protocol XIV Assault on Religion
Protocol XV Ruthless Suppression
Protocol XVI Brainwashing
Protocol XVII Abuse of Authority
Protocol XVIII Arrest of Opponents
Protocol XIX Rulers and People
Protocol XX Financial Programme
Protocol XXI Loans and Credit
Protocol XXII Power of Gold
Protocol XXIII Instilling Obedience
Protocol XXIV Qualities of the Ruler


6. At the same time we must intensively patronize trade and industry, but, first and foremost, speculation, the part played by which is to provide a counterpoise to industry: the absence of speculative industry will multiply capital in private hands and will serve to restore agriculture by freeing the land from indebtedness to the land banks. What we want is that industry should drain off from the land both labor and capital and by means of speculation transfer into our hands all the money of the world, and thereby throw all the GOYIM into the ranks of the proletariat. Then the GOYIM will bow down before us, if for no other reason but to get the right to exist.

7. To complete the ruin of the industry of the GOYIM we shall bring to the assistance of speculation the luxury which we have developed among the GOYIM, that greedy demand for luxury which is swallowing up everything. WE SHALL RAISE THE RATE OF WAGES WHICH, HOWEVER, WILL NOT BRING ANY  ADVANTAGE TO THE WORKERS, FOR, AT THE SAME TIME, WE SHALL PRODUCE A RISE IN PRICES OF THE FIRST NECESSARIES OF LIFE, ALLEGING THAT IT ARISES FROM THE DECLINE OF AGRICULTURE AND CATTLEBREEDING:



Fri, 11/22/2013 - 03:55 | 4180493 Escapeclaws
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This is so badly written that anyone with a sensitivity to language can see that it was written by some half-literate cretin who is lashing out at Jews to compensate for feelings of inferiority. Instead of hating Jews, take a good hard look at yourself and your own feelings of impotence. If you are Christian, realize that Christ himself loved his Jewish bretherin and wanted to take them under his wing. You should be ashamed to publish this pornography.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:38 | 4179823 Crawdaddy
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Did you ever wonder why this guy has a place of honor in DC. The only Confederate General to be so recognized?

Freemason Leader

Albert Pike is the most loved of all Masons. In 9 years he rose to become the Scottish Rite's Grand Commander of the Supreme Council, Southern Jurisdiction of the United States, which is the "Mother Council of the World."

End snip. New snip:

The Freemasons are controlled by the Jesuits who are a tiny but powerful minority within the Catholic faith. The average Catholic, like the average Freemason, living in Podunck USA, has no clue what is happening at the highest levels of their institutions.

The Jesuits owns all global corporations. The biggist is The Bank of Italy (now known as Bank of America.)

Blaming the Jews, CIA, NSA ad infinitum, is a distraction designed by - guess who?

Money quote if you don't want to watch the whole thing:

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:45 | 4179838 carlin401
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I agree with you 100%. But first let me say that this kind of knowledge will not get pussy, nor bitcoin.

Look at the Jews in the holocaust they got robbed to fund Hitlers war, not because they were Jews, Hitler simply demonized and went after thos with money. Do the jews rule the world? Fuck no.

I would go on to say that AIPAC ain't even jewish, its MOSSAD/CIA, BUSH-TRIBE.

But is BUSH a catholic? Nope

There is only one CABAL its the GREED CABAL, but there are many tribes fighting, Rothschild, clinton, bush, Obama, and they will kill anything that stands in their way of universal slavery of all.


So fucking what? At the end of the day. Are you getting your PUSSY, WINE, BEER, GOOD FOOD? There has always been a shortage of beautiful women, and good food/booze, only a minority in history enjoy such, at the end of the day stay focussed on your prize, ... studying those that are already there doesn't help you, unless your goal is to emulate them.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:06 | 4179898 Crawdaddy
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Both of the Shrubs (HT Molly Ivins, long-dead statist-loving columnist) were working for the Man. Papa B and Lil G were pre-approved and implemented the NWO to the best they could. They were actually way better at it than Bubba or the current monkey with hand grenade.

What does it take to have a multi-generational agenda? The answer - a belief. There are those that believe in "good" and there are those who believe in "evil." The vast majority of people see themselves as part of the good The vast majority of the crap we see impacting us is 99% instigated by the evil.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 00:06 | 4180045 carlin401
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Grandaddy 'SENATOR PRESCOTT BUSH started WWI, and WWII' also started the original (OSS) CIA, which of course later Bush ran. Grandad Bush was instrumental in creating (& keeping them in power ) the Saudi government as we know it post 1920's.

Ford, BUSH, and Hearst brought HITLER to power.

Read Shirer's "rise and fall of the third Reich"


Probably safe to say IHMO that since the 1910's that they have killed over 100 Million people to make the USD the worlds reserve currency.

How many people will die to KEEP BTC in power?

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:15 | 4179756 no life
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Divide and conquer..

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:20 | 4179774 bunnyswanson
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Tactic can be used both ways, if you know what I mean.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:19 | 4179769 Seasmoke
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You bet I'm an Anarchist. 

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:29 | 4179796 Teddy Tenpole
Teddy Tenpole's picture's the only way to be...



Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:23 | 4179773 akak
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Global neofeudalism: it's the mattering thing, the crustiest bit of it.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:27 | 4179789 DoChenRollingBearing
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Tomorrow, the taxation authorities in Peru will be auditing our company.  My in-laws tell me this will be grueling, they want everything, they will copy it all onto flash drives and study it at their leisure.  Very soon, I will know approximately how far down the rat-hole Peru is.

I already understand that it is fairly corrupt, but I want to see how protective their .state is re economic and other liberty.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:36 | 4179818 Uber Vandal
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It does seem that this illness of MOAR is global.

Always remember, the rich do not have enough and the poor have too much, and it all makes perfect sense.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:49 | 4179843 Crawdaddy
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DoChen I hope it works out for you. I have no idea what that place is like because to me everything south of Rio Grande is corrupt. The problem is now this area seems to be catching up with the corruption levels in all the places north of Rio Grande.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 00:00 | 4180070 BigJim
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And I'm sure their departmental preferment is completely divorced from how much money they manage to 'find'.

Good luck, DoChen... maybe you'll get an honest tax inspector. I mean... it's not inconceivable, right?

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 00:02 | 4180077 QQQBall
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DoChen... how protective they are... I hope all goes well. I did busines in MExico in the 1980's... no good stories to tell. none

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 11:25 | 4180994 Diogenes
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"Tomorrow, the taxation authorities in Peru will be auditing our company.  My in-laws tell me this will be grueling, they want everything, they will copy it all onto flash drives and study it at their leisure.  Very soon, I will know approximately how far down the rat-hole Peru is.

I already understand that it is fairly corrupt, but I want to see how protective their .state is re economic and other liberty."

Can't you slip them a little something *rubs fingers together*

Or do you know somebody who can put the fix in? I'm sure you started working on that before you started the company.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:26 | 4179954 IndyPat
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In the words of American citizen citizenism elder Willie Nelson...

Alas, alas and three times minus one squared alas....

"On the Road Again"...

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:34 | 4179809 WTFRLY
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Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:39 | 4179814 carlin401
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Today we live in a NWO order, with new machines, ruling our world little men can pull something like  BTC out of their ass and become masters.

Let's destroy this myth once and for all about the 'good man', there is and never was a good man, except perhaps the good slave who kept his mouth fucking shut.

*** Throughout History, Men have been driven for Gold, Glory, and Girls - Nothing has changed, except the MSM tell's you to be a girly-boy ***

Only assholes run for public office, and 'good men' are fucking where?

You have to be an asshole to run a corporation or a gubmint.

Good men stay home to be hen pecked by their wives.

If there was ever a fucking urban myth, is that of the good man.

Men of power care only about PUSSY, and MORE PUSSY. Men of power go to gubmint, church, corporation, or the MOB.

Founding father understood the nature of man well, the trouble is political correct morons today, have little understand of the REAL MAN.



Never in history has there been a good government that took care of the sheep, the sheep have always been fleeced in all of history.

The real fucking issue is that you as a MAN, must decide do you want to be a fucking SHEEP?

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:38 | 4179997 Crawdaddy
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The myth of the Good Man has been around for millennium but was finally blessed institutionally with the 19th amendment. All downhill since then.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:47 | 4180029 carlin401
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I luckily for me I grew up in the URBAN jungles of the worst shit-holes of ameriKKKa, and I learned jungle law as a youth, "The first with the mostest, wins the fucking fight"

"That good guys finish last" ...

I mean I love to read all the great works, and altruistic story's, but like Carnegie ( steel baron ) "Making money is easy, keeping it is hard". This is why I hate BTC, its just another means for weak minded men to lose their money.

I wrote about this 'good man' deal for one reason only the solution brought forward from the zeroheads is we 'need good men',... I assume they're talking about Ron Paul clones, ...

There are NO good men in politics or corporations at the top, shit rise in all cases of power.

Power corrupts all.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:56 | 4180062 Crawdaddy
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Agreed carlin - I do not trust anyone who wasn't drafted and dragged on theirs heels to public office. Since that is exactly nobody, I trust none of them. Statistically there may be a few who are genuine but statistically I can't tell who they may be. The logical recourse is to assume they are all corrupt.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 00:06 | 4180083 carlin401
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Well today 99% of all politicans are lawyers, and that right there is justification to build gallows and guillotines, ... draw & quarter to boot.

If there is any fucking thing wrong with all of AMERICA, its the fucking LAWYERS ( talking about turning intangible into gold ), and lawyer make the law.

Long time ago in USA a 'judge' was a PERSON, now a judge is a lawyer, - WE JUDGED ONE ANOTHER AS PEERS

FUCK THE GOD-DAMN USA and the lawyers and the politicans, and judges.



Fuck america

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 00:28 | 4180158 Crawdaddy
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Like you mentioned before, the real problem is the pussifcation of men. Revive the nose punch. Bring it back and most of what we deal with is a side issue. The problem, naturally, is lawyers who make the nose punch illegal. Loss of freedom and property. Simple solution - we keep nose punching until they figure out the rules have changed. Since they are all giant pussies, it wont take long. The limiting factor is the number of non-pussified hombres willing to smack noses.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:17 | 4179829 Radical Marijuana
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INDEED, "It’s a new world. We need to see it anew."

As I have been saying previously in many of my comments, we need to go through profound intellectual scientific revolutions, from the philosophy of science, through to political science. Of course, governments are organized crime, dominated by the best organized gangs of criminals. However, what that means is that citizens need to understand that they are actually members of an organized crime gang, which is their country, (and every other social organization that they belong to, to one degree or another, in similar fashion, within that overall framework.) At present, the vast majority have been brainwashed to believe in the biggest bullies' bullshit, while the controlled opposition operates within the same frame of reference when proposing "solutions."

EVERYONE HAS SOME POWER TO ROB, AND POWER TO KILL TO BACK THAT UP. History has selected for those who were the best at doing that to create states, and to covertly control those state powers, behind the good theory of democratic oversight through the rule of law. There is nothing wrong with the theory of a democratic republic, the problem is that the overwhelming vast majority of citizens have been successfully brainwashed to become Zombie Sheeple, and almost all of the controlled opposition continues being Black Sheep, promoting the bullshit "solutions" that everyone needs to become better sheep.

Human realities are ALWAYS systems of organized lies, operating organized robberies.  Our problem has become the runaway triumph of those who were the best at doing that driving and driving their systems to become self-destructively mad, due to the lack of effective opposition. The degree to which the controlled opposition has been excessively controlled has meant that there was no effective opposition. However, the only ways that there could emerge a better opposition, and  thus better rebalancing of the overall human ecology and political economy, is IF enough people understood those things enough to stop believing that the chronic political problems were created out of nothing by the ruling classes, and that, therefore, those problems would cease to exist, but for the actions of those ruling classes.

There are no genuine solutions which do not face the facts that money is measurement backed by murder, and that the debt controls depend upon the death controls. The only good solutions require better combined money/murder systems, doing better debt/death controls. To understand those problems is to understand how the best organized gangs of criminals created governments, and controlled them. However, to more deeply understand those problems requires seeing that there are chronic political problems inherent in the nature of life, and that those must be resolved somehow ...

In that context, I look forward to Part Two of this article.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:45 | 4179837 Zer0head
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funny thing is that the homeless dude I walk by most days, well he and his fellow homeless view me and my ilk as a type of NWO, we want lower taxes, which for him means accomodations at the local shelter are frequently full; that time when he had a day laborer job and a room got shot to hell when the rooming house was sold to a land developer; he and his homeless pals figure that they are pretty much screwed, they set up in a park that no one uses and the local constabulary gave them the bums rush at 3am on a rainy Tuesday night, some hipster moms heard about these hobo types and started a neighborhood petition

Yes for Joe Homeless   the new world order is alive and well conspiring to fuck him out of a place to sleep and a warm meal; worse yet, he believes that people like me are part of a conspiracy to label the homeless as lazy subhumans who choose not to work and are simply leaches sucking off the taxpayers' dime

and when I walk past him at the end of the day, I'm heading home to full pantry, clean bed and 800 channels of whatever - Joe Homeless heard that there is a new encampment that the cops don't know about only problem is one of his pals was set on fire a few weeks back by some teens who were bored, sons of some NWO type


it's all relative Jamie Dimon is richer than you and I, and we are richer than Joe Homeless -  Jamie doesn't give a flying fck about you or me and in most cases we have similar attitudes towards the tens of millions in the underclass

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:11 | 4179907 carlin401
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Go listen to that Jonny Cash song "Satisfied Mind",

It's in Kill-Bill


"How many time have you heard  someone say, if I had his money I could do things my way.."

"Only one rich man in ten has a satisfied mind..."


"Once your old and your youth is gone, that fucking money will not bring you a thing ..."


Great reflection on what is important in life.



Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:24 | 4179946 The Old Man
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And beside "you" so really important, all knowledgable  guys, who really F***ing cares?

We have a life.

We try and live it.

And the people who had some insight, (maybe you, the guy that walks under the bridge where we live), maybe you notice.

So F***ing what?

We'll still be able to live under that bridge.

We'll still survive and not smell well because they turned off the city fountains that "celebrate" a life of the past at 3 am.

We sometimes are just as rich as you are.

You just don't realize as yet.

And as long as you do not, you really do not have a life.

You only have an existance.

Have you ever walked "over" a person, a body that is drenched in urine and feces, on your way to work at an exit...


I have. Several times. It's such a nice life I have.

And. You too. 

You guys consider yourself lucky. 

Every day of the week,  I count and feed my pigeons, and seriously consider how lucky I am.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:49 | 4179847 ISEEIT
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I actually appreciate the authors thoughts. Call me naive, and no doubt to some degree I am. What I recognize though is that we 'the people' have been very successfully pitted against one another. Even so, I frequent a particular 'leftist blog'. I scope Firedoglake. These are GOOD people. Dumb? Yes, but decent minded and truly interested in seeing the human condition improved.

I would love to see a dialogue open between the various factions left/right. The points of difference are extremely contentious with certain convictions, but I do believe that absent the current 'big daddy' criminal government that so distorts reality and IS truly profoundly dangerous, I really do believe that Left/Right, if each were to physically be in the presence of the 'other' and BEHAVE, our common enemy...BANKING/CORPORATE/GOVERNMENT corruption and abuse could be sized up and dealt with.

It wouldn't be costless though. We are owned (occupied) to an extent that requires sacrifice that I fear might not arise until we are lost even further down this path FORWARD of enslavement to a lie. The entire present construct is built on fraud.


Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:54 | 4179854 Questan1913
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Respect to "Tyler", for reprinting an essay so refreshingly full of truth and wisdom.  "The truth shall set you free".  Yes, but only if you act on it.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 01:06 | 4180258 samsara
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"He who has ears, let him hear."


Then Act on it.

Yourself, Your Family,  Your close friends, Community, in that order.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 22:58 | 4179857 Jack Burton
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The point of the article is that a revolution has taken place and we people have slept through it. While many lose sleep over communism and socialism taking over government and trashing all of America's small business people, in fact, the corporate and military elites have taken full control of the state power. While people slam the socialist Obama, Obama works to use state power to back the corporate negotiations of two trade treaties that give corporations extra legal powers that trump the nation states of the world. What am I saying? I am saying the the elites own both parties and just like the article above states, the State is now an agent of rich elites and the corporate world they inhabit. The old military industrial complex has a new and even more powerful member. The Finance Sector and it's Bankers. These people have joined their agenda to that of the old elites of the Military Industrial Complex. This new monster is the elite the article speaks of.

They surpass the powers of states. They use state powers to enforce theri grip on power. They own the media, all of it, save for a few blogs likes ZH, they use this media power to simply lie and brainwash people. Global Finance Crony Rigged Capitalism is here and it has joined forces with older forms of elites.

Here is how I sum them up.

The Old Monied Familes

The Military Industrial Complex

Banks and Bankers

Top investors and speculators, like hedge funders and Goldman boys

The Corporate elite, CEO and others at the tip of the corporate machine

It is clear they now work together to use their power and wealth to manipulate both markets and governments for their purposes.

To cut it short. They are global and not national. They are the 1%. Their power grows as the power of individual citizens shrinks to zero. Globalization is their main goal for now. The return to a Plantation Style Economy is their goal. They have no morals, but money and power. These are the kind of people who used their influence to carry out the Iraq war, who are trying to attack Syria, who plan war on Iran and the eventual destruction of Russia. They will not stop.

These people laugh at all the team Red and team Blue players who fill blogs with their parties talking points. Look at today's news and watch the fake two party teams fighting it out. It is a fucking hoax. The elites run this show, and Obama is one of many of their total puppets.

Believe it, get used to it, it is your future. Plantation Economics, it is what they have in store for us all. Even you team red players are gonna be fucked.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:42 | 4179901 carlin401
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NWO order indeed,

But long ago it was railroads and big steel, and that resulted in the unrest of the 1890's

Now you have as you describe, but now the masses are well placated with foodstamps, TV, and psyho-tropic drugs,...

The folks in the 1890's that stood up were crushed, in the post 2000's good men simply leave the USA and find their 'galts gulch'.


Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:20 | 4179935 Radical Marijuana
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Good summary, Jack Burton!

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:43 | 4180009 22winmag
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Ummmm... tens of millions of highly trained, heavily armed, highly motivated, highly educated, and very patriotic Americans are going to weigh in on this. Like I said before, all the globalist plans, "agendas", plots, and machinations in the world, no matter how sinister, don't amount to much in the face of millions of motivated boots on the ground. 

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 09:11 | 4180736 Ar-Pharazôn
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1/3 of these so highly higly higly bla bla bla are so fucking fat that they cant even stand up from their wheelchair

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 11:54 | 4180013 The Old Man
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Sorry Jack.

Bad night.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 15:21 | 4181827 Jack Burton
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Make your point The Old Man. I mean, I can stand to hear your point of view. I am not in love with my views and opinions. That is all they are. You perhaps think different, please share your views. One liners like the above serve no purpose. But at least you did not put worlds in my mouth and ask me to defend them. I thank you for that much.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 01:01 | 4180245 samsara
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Standing and Clapping Jack. Great Post again.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 06:36 | 4180587 Disenchanted
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re: "The old military industrial complex has a new and even more powerful member. The Finance Sector and it's Bankers."

I'm of the opinion that group was there all along. They have just stepped out of the shadows and are now more in the open.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:23 | 4179940 Duc888
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"In reality it will be unelected, largely un-named trade representatives supported and surrounded by a legion of lawyers, advisors and lobbyists"

So there ya go. 'nuff said.

Are they lookin' out for YOU?

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:30 | 4179967 Oldwood
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The newworld order is the same as the old one. The poor blaming the rich for their want, and the rich fearing the masses who seem to want something for nothing.

I could give a fuck about how much Jamie Dimon makes. What I care about is what the people who make my laws are doing. JPM cannot force me to buy anything or punish me for not responding in a certain way. Government can take my home and throw me in jail on a whim. I fear them. JPM and GS, not so much.

Thu, 11/21/2013 - 23:51 | 4179968 22winmag
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Keep fucking around and tens of millions of highly trained, highly motivated, and heavily armed Americans will weigh in on this issue.


Plans, plots, "agendas", and machinations, no matter how sinister, don't stack up very well against millions of motivated boots on the ground.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 00:00 | 4180069 carlin401
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I'll say it again, never in all of USA history has the USA masses stood up to their masters in the USA.

Closest it ever came was smedly-butlers 'bonus boys' in the late 1920's they wanted their WWI bonus, and marched on DC with guns and they were slaughtered with tanks,

The result was FDR won the next election because everybody hated Hoover.

Today with a all mercenary army there is no way in hell they'll risk their fucking gold plated pension's.

The little people in all of US history never stood up to the MAN. Not even in 1890's that when the 'power' created 'modern city policing' to KILL UNIONS.


Stay and fight the USA and you will die, ... better to run far away from the assholes and let them all kill each other.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 00:18 | 4180136 Westcoastliberal
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Seems to me the U.S. took a hard right when Kennedy was assasinated and it's been a charade ever since.  And I agree with the idea of the current government serving interests other than "we the people".  Seems to me we're past-due for some house cleaning, both in the people running things, and in the manner they're held accountable.  No one is at present and that's a big part of the problem.  We must find a way to get money out of politics.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 01:03 | 4180252 Crawdaddy
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I was thinking the shit really got started with Wilson. But what the heck - we can go back to the Federalists. They were the original statists.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 00:55 | 4180230 Flammonde
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The NWO is neither new, nor really a world order being born.  It is ad hoc, driven by the rise of post-world war industrialism and neo-colonialism, as well as multiple conflicting ideologies.   I see the chracteristics of many different power systems and there does not seem to be a consensus among elite power groups as to a single determining path.  State Crony Capitalism seems to be the surface and yet in the deep structure for domination and control of the planet I wonder if another agenda is deliberated among the groupings driven by what Catherine Austin Fitts terms the "Breakaway Civilization."

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Fri, 11/22/2013 - 01:46 | 4180334 blindman
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corporate ambition has been compromised , not by mr.
snowden, but by earthly and heavenly restrictions
and constraints, as in .... all this here does not belong
or abide by satanic preference, all the time.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 02:09 | 4180378 q99x2
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I think we can expect that they will get butchered in the end. Got 7 billion people that hate those fuckers this time around.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 07:52 | 4180650 Incubus
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In reality, we don't have billions.  we have billions that want 3 square meals and a roof over their heads.


We've probably got a few million, at best.  Issue isn't numbers.  A few million people can steer the course of humanity, so it's just a matter of realizing the proper way of doing it.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 05:46 | 4180571 no more banksters
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...governments today do not have to apply violence. Conflicts in streets are risky, nobody can predict perfectly their ending. But the suitable "education" of societies is ultimately a much more secure method for the enforcement of the so-called "new world order".

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 08:40 | 4180692 MickV
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First of all, the National Health Svc. of Britain is a great thing? Please, it's a disaster. That the author would say that tells you everything you need to know. The author is a statist at heart.

Second the author ignores the huge elephant in the room, i.e that the "United States" and the "Constitution" no longer exist because the executor of the laws (POTUS) is an illegal entity. Hussein Obama, domestic enemy of the United States, was born BRITISH, of a BRITISH subject father, and is likely still BRITISH TO THIS DAY--- thus he is not an eligible natural born Citizen, eligible for POTUS. The very purpose of A2S1C4 is prevention of foreign influence, but now it seems we have indeed been repatriated to Britain, and United States' sovereignty disintegrated. Indeed, the NSA may be BRITISH, so the author is all around it, yet fails to see the one huge Constitutional disaster, that if there is no legal executor of the laws, then there is no law, and the "law" is what evil men say it is.

I have tried to disseminate this fact for Hussein Obama's entire putative Presidency, yet normalcy bias and cognative dissonance prevent people from grasping and even acknowledging the enormity of what has happened--- most people are "grazing in the grassland away." Hussein Obama, domestic enemy of the Republic will probably not survive, as the greater powers of the NWO will take him out (and blame white supremicist, religious "gun nuts") and martyr him with propaganda before any real accounting of the puppet of the NWO can be made, and to cement their gains through martial law "for the "good of the people" and to "keep us safe". He was their greatest achievement--- an ineligible POTUS muscelled in for the express purpose of voiding US Citizen sovereignty. It will be up to the people to reclaim sovereignty, and water the tree of liberty. Will this knowledge meet critical mass, or is liberty gone forever? If this blog, and the lack of acknowledgment that Hussein Obama is not eligible, and must be dragged from the WH, is any indication, then liberty is gone.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 08:44 | 4180698 honestann
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New World Order == World By Predators.


The predators who advocate, promote, dream and plan for a "New World Order" only care about one thing.  That all humans are ruled by predators.  Period.  That's all they really care about - that no individual can control his or her own life.

All the rest is window dressing.

What these predators cannot stand is... any visible example of liberty and individualism.  Because they know what will happen... something like what started to happen in north america a century or two ago.

The predators who pretend they are "superior" to everyone else, and who claim some bogus "right" or "authority" to control everyone else, became desperate to destroy the USA and any example of liberty and individualism once they saw what was happening when individuals are free to "get what they deserve" (both in the positive and negative sense, but especially the positive).

Which is why they went to such great lengths to destroy the USA and create the USSA.  Of course the biggest single achievement (from their point of view) was the establishment of the federal reserve and income tax in 1913.  That assured they could control and destroy the example they loathed.

Make no mistake, they loathe liberty and individualism to the core of their being, but that's not the main reason they had to destroy it.  The main reason, of course, is to make sure the rest of the world doesn't have an example that makes them want to emulate, and demand changes in other authoritarian parts of the world.

Yup.  The NWO boils down to one thing.  Predators rule.  Period.  Leave no room for any individual to get what they deserve.  Make the fate of every individual depend on the mood and grace of some predator or other... pretty much any predator will do just fine.

PS:  The very notion of "nation" is a NWO concept.  What the predators fear most of all is some location without the fiction called "nation"!  Why?  Because "nation" implies "rule", which inherently means "predator rule".  The solution is not to "retain and preserve nations", the solution is to "eliminate fictions, starting with "nation" and "government" and "authority" and "official" and "law".

The only real or legitimate "sovereignty" is the sovereignty of every individual sentient being.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 09:11 | 4180735 Disenchanted
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2014 and The Queen of Spades



30 years after 1984, the roll out year of obvious in-your-face tyranny may be 2014.

This long-term gradual process is being accomplished by powerful wealthy strategists thoroughly compromising both institutions and individuals through a vast array of avenues and methods, including: fractional reserve banking, interest, loans, debt, privately controlled central banks, fiat currency, resources, chemicals, technology, industry, corporations, medicine, education, media, communications, government-corporate interlocking, bribery, blackmail, threat, murder, false flags, secret treaties, war, fear, hypnosis, psy ops, symbols, and other overt and hidden means of influencing everything from world affairs to personal attitudes and the health of body and mind.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 09:55 | 4180806 el Gallinazo
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The new ideology is not fully formed yet, but already it is clear that it is not Libertarian because unlike Libertarianism, the new ideology believes the State should be very powerful and large and should intervene. But neither is it Socialist, because unlike the Left the new ideology believes those interventions should be on behalf of the wealthy not the poor.

Not that new.  If you held a seance and discussed it with the ghost of Benito Mussolini, it wouldn't take him long to come up with a name for it.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 13:21 | 4181285 FrankDrakman
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Bang on, which is why've I held that we should eschew the term 'liberal' in favour of the much more accurate 'neo-fascist'.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 11:20 | 4180990 ToNYC
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Jubilee for Rentiers. Privatization of Public Works introduces a thick slice of diversion of the Commonwealth.

Fri, 11/22/2013 - 13:25 | 4181309 kurt
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You lost me at "quisling".

It has a dungeons and dragons feel sort of like Cartman as Wizard. Come to think of it, like the dorky assholes who join societies and such, who believe their complex bullshit and think they render magic and spells. Fuuuck Yall!

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 01:15 | 4183151 bunnyswanson
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You have the depth of imagination of a midget with an empty scrotal sac. 

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