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Senate Passes Vote On "Nuclear Option"
Update: SENATE VOTES 52-48 TO CHANGE RULES ON PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEES, and so the nuclear option has been enacted.
As reported earlier, the Senate was set to vote on Harry Reid's proposal to enact a "nuclear option" to eliminate the filibuster for Obama nominees (and potentially in toto). Watch the vote live on C-Span after the jump.
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I guess this is how dictatorships are born.
And with the aid of those who vote these ass wipes into office (and re-re-re-re-re-re-elect them).
Dissent is highly inefficient, bitches.
This is going to make way for some really super efficient screwing now.
Losing the last vestiges of a Constitutional Republic. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Direct election of the senate will do that to a republic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJMRxbECzow
Stwike him centurion vewwy wuffly.
Where's Biggus Dickus when you need him.
He's on vacation
The world is run by sociopaths, and I have said time after time, that a sociopath by definition will sacrifice EVERYTHING to maintain their power. This is just another little microchasm of that truth. Sociopaths will sacrifise any law, constitution, govt, country, friend or family member to maintain their status, even if that only gains them a short term reprieve. It's all about the "here and now" and never a thought for the damage to the future. When that future damage comes, they will just violate another principle to desperately hold onto that status a little longer. It's the ultimate game of the law of diminishing returns for them. The only way to break them is revolultion, and sadly, we are a still a long way from the masses being ready for that. The masses will have to be starving in the streets before guillotines start rolling.
On the bright side, it looks like Obamacare can now be repealed with 51 votes.
#winning
that would "renewed" only "this time we win." get your talking points in order mister.
They will say the majority vote requirement only pertains to nominations. In any event, when the demoncrats become minority, they will scream and cry like stuck pigs about how unfair their own rules are and that the Re-pupic-hairs need to respect the minority. The the Re-pubic-hairs, being spineless and stupid, will grant the Demoncrats their fillibuster powers.
Also, we will not be able to repeal OBAMACARE because the disruption that would cause to the disruption would be unacceptable.
They wrote into the law provisions preventing any future congress from repealing it. But what's one more insult to the constitution and rule of law as we lurch into full blown fascism?
Depends on the caliber.
Fucking tyrants...time to deploy the Founders Option - declare independence from this shit and carve out a new nation and let the old one rot and die!!!
Sooo, whats to stop individual Senators from placing a hold on nominations? Thinkin this is hyperbole.
RIP America.
Yes that is the key. As Justice Sandra Day O'Connor recently lamented in a speech, it seems that the general populace, who get to vote, have fallen far below even the minimum trhreshold of competence and understanding and knowledge of how things like the government work and why that all hope of political solutins to the nations problem are forlorn.
Still, Harry Reid must do the world a tremendous favor by killing himself immediately - as I have serious doubts the aliens will come and do it for us. They are too busy looking on and laughing.
Thank a public school teacher.
I agree with Lemmy. The voters are the ones at fault for being ill informed and compliant.
that is assuming that voting is still a legitiamte exercise. after the last persidential, i'm pretty convinced it is NOT!
If random bureaucrats can independently decide to fall in line with policies that benefit the autocrat in chief, it isn't much of a stretch to think all the apparatchiks involved in tallying up the vote aren't immune to such shenanigans.
that is assuming that voting is still a legitiamte exercise. after the last persidential, i'm pretty convinced it is NOT!
Go ask the Diebold machines. They will tell you.
Blaming the voters suits those in power.
Top politicians are vetted and promoted by the big boys in the back room
(Goldman Sachs et al).
That is true of nominated candidates of either major party.
When election time rolls around, the voters are offered only meaningless choices. With Obama, voters predictably backed the advertised as intelligent/trustworthy candidate who pledged (falsely as it turned out) to clean up the mess and "change" things.
The MSM never critically examined the candidates or the nomination process, and was complicit in the deception.
Blaming the public for not overthrowing the system then, or now, is a pointless endeavor. It sidesteps the issue of deception, and mistakenly presumes that there existed a conscious choice given voters to be powerless, jobless, debilitated, uninformed, and policed OR none of those conditions. It also overlooks how the so-called private sector also operates to condition and make "voters" powerless, jobless, debilitated, uninformed, and policed.
How can you hold the voters to account when there are no good and worthy candidates? You buy both sides and win all elections. Voters have to make a choice. This is not some ground-up, playoff type of scenario where the best candidate wins. This is fixed game where the sides are purchased by a handful of scoundrels and placed on the field to compete in front of the masses. There is literally no one running with the best interests of the Republic and its Constitution in mind.
Last time we had a seasoned executive running against a zero. The MSM,government and private unions, banks, women, blacks and Jews voted for the zero.
keep believing the Repubs would have halted the militarism, martial laws, and bankster bailouts ...
(denial of reality is one coping mechanism that works until it doesn't)
But at least Romney would have done it competently.
Or failing that, with a recognizably pro-American bias in his choices. Zero's goal is to take down the west. Dreams from his various anti-American anti occidental fathers.
Pretty sure the Republicans hated Ron Paul
seasoned = unindicted
blame will be equally and fairly distrubuted across the entire spectrum... ain't no clean hands.... time for a reset
Its what Hitler would have wanted
Dumbfuck Harry Reid. Just wait until after the midterms. We will string you by your balls with this...
"And this is how democracy dies... with thunderous applause."
If the "opposition" doesn't now filibuster _every_ _single_ _bill_, forcing Herr Reid to do away with it entirely, then they deserve what they get.
They currently filibuster....every....single...nomination. You may agree with the R's tactics on running out the clock on this prezs' court selections, but thats exactly what they've been doing. In the spirit of fairness to each prez and their court selections, the D's were far more accomadating to W's picks.
W appointed very few communists.
Are you on crack? or just repeating what somebody else told you....
Are you on crack? or just repeating what somebody else told you....
im talking simple numbers here and easily verified. how many of Ws court appointees got thru at this point of his presidency and how many of Obamas? Never said i was an Obama supporter. They are both sockpuppets.
Did you just repeat yourself, or is that just the crack?
Facts can be a difficult thing to hear
p.s. i stopped doing crack when W left office, i've moved on to heroin.
Dissent is good, and healthy, but constantly abusing the rules and then getting b-slapped because you constantly abused the rules is OK too.
Kinda' like when the GOP never allowed amendments or discussion in the things they pushed through while Bush II was president.
And, yet, I didn't hear that compared to the beginning of a dictatorship. Hmmmm.
Maybe it's OK for one party but a dictatorship if the other party does it?
don't know who you were listening to
if you never heard any complaints that what Bush II was doing
was furthering tyranny.
Really? Name one Republican who ever stated as much.
The Senate has worked with this fillibuster rule for 250 years and now all of a sudden it is a problem under Barack Hussein Obama's leadership. Go figure the Marxist can't deal with democracy.
I always chuckle when I hear people say, "How could they let that happen" in reference to the rise of the NAZIs in Germany, or with Stalin/Mao/PolPot.
It's not a matter of let because by the time the people realize what's going on, it's already too late to stop.
I'd rather watch the 3 Stooges on Youtube.
100 Stooges is not better than 3 Stooges?
Time watching The Stooges is quality time.
Time voting is wasted.
Reid is terrified of losing the Senate because of Potus' less than stellar, deceitful ways.
They want to stack as much as they can in case of that eventuality.
Things are getting jiggy.
Reid is such a fucking piece of shit that it's sickening.
Wish Reid and Pelosi could be stuffed into Yucca mountain along with the totality of the stored nuclear waste in this country. Then seal the doors.
Although I'd feel sorry for the nuclear waste, I like your idea.
And that's another thing about those two scum bags...what's their half-life? Seems like it's forever...they just won't go away.
Only because I know they lurk around here, are the stooge Mormons from Vegas still voting for this guy because they were told to do so? Or am I to understand that practice has ceased? Sickening that the LDS'ers out there who originally put this guy in power are still punching the zombie vote. And if that is no longer the case, why in the hell is he still in a strong leadership position in the church? I understand he hasn't been marginalized one bit within the LDS community. You folks built him and his power base, you own him. Good luck with ever recovering from that.
It's exactly because he now expects to lose the Senate in 2014 that he's proceeding to get as much done as he can via nominations. Races that were tossups are now out of reach for Dems, and races that were supposed to be safe like Colorado are now in play. Dems could lose as many as 10 or 11 seats if Obamacare continues to be an anchor into next fall.
Yes and when the republicans get back the congress and presidentcy, then we'll finally have some real change.
Except that both sides are controlled by the same people.
VIVA LA REVOLUTION!
Hope it happens.
pro bailout republicans are not the solution
Sorry I was being sacrastic, then was suggesting a full on guillotine style revolution. Of course there's always the problem of more snakes crawling out of the grass to fill the newly open positions. I hope we have it in us to find a way to keep this current mess from ever happening again.
long live communism.
No stopping these motherfuckers now.
Sadly.....you're 100% correct.
the real situation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lz6HPz9FCk
They don't want ANY interference from Rand Paul on Yellen's Nomination...That is the only reason they are doing this.
Scared that if he is successful then it would throw the FED into disarray. Harry Reid sucks *#*$, want pictures?
They are stacking the DC Federal Court so there is no way to check Obozos EOs.
Bingo. There is also a rather large backlog of regular district court judge vacancies as well.
Yes, that's the real reason. Paul had notified Reid over a week ago he wouldn't allow the Yellen vote to proceed unless Reid allowed a roll call vote on his Dad's Audit the FED (in real time) bill to pass. Reid couldn't allow that to happen and so got his marching orders from his cartel overlords. Dems opposing Audit the FED (favored by 80% of the electorate) while being SOLELY responsible for passing O-care-what a combo to run on in 2014 and 2016. Just couldn't allow that to happen. Please donate any spare bitcoins to either the Reid, Bernake, or Yellen assasination funds if you care for this country!
More banker control; and the media’s portrayal of Reid’s criticism of Wall Street is false cover for their point man - along with Mitch McConnell - in the Senate:
The history of Harry from NBC's Ken Strickland:
“After criticizing Republican leaders yesterday for having a secret, closed-door meeting with Wall Street executives, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid today (April 20, 2010) faced his own questions about a fundraiser he attended this year hosted by the president of Goldman Sachs.
“Asked by reporters to confirm his attendance and how it played into the debate over financial regulatory reform, Reid didn't answer the question directly. Instead, he read from what appeared to be prepared remarks, touting his reform efforts.
"’I'm leading the effort to rein in Wall Street,’ he said at his weekly on-camera news conference. ‘I'm going to make sure that in this legislation I do everything within my ability to make sure that banks aren't too big to fail.’" ..
“When news of Reid's Goldman Sachs fundraiser was circulated yesterday, NRSC spokesman Brain Walsh said, ‘One can only presume that Sen. Reid will be return these donations immediately.’ Today, Manley said the majority leader plans to keep the money.”
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2010/04/20/4432273-reid-dodges-questions-on-goldman
Dear Honorable Harry Reid,
Go fuck yourself.
Kind Regards,
- USS Bernanke
The American public needs to vote on a nuclear option to nuke Congress!
Can we get all of DC just to be sure?
I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. Its the only way to be sure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q
If everyone did this it would be NUCLEeuurrr
http://www.kbzk.com/news/packed-courtroom-for-manhattan-man-accused-of-fishing-without-a-license/#!prettyPhoto/0/
"I never plead, animals plead, sounds like baaaa, oink oink."
So, when do I find out who will be my regional overlord?
Insert your zip code: http://www.mybanktracker.com/
One more step to a dictatorship.
has filibuster ever worked for oppsition party historically?
Demorats used it all the time to block GWB's judical nominees.
Yep, that's why there's still so many vacancies in the circuit courts, tit for tat. Schumer would threaten and carry thru to block any nominees that were not sufficiently extreme left-wing progressive types
Since they now need only 51 votes for confirmation those vacancies will soon be filled by anyone the King wishes. Bill Ayers, Rev Wright, anyone.
Somebody stop them...they're running with scissors!!!
If by "stop them" you mean sticking my foot out in their path, then yes. If only I could.
This is a dangerous step for court nominees but has the greatest danger if it should lead to stopping filibusters on all bills.
Along with the abandonment of states’ rights, the march continues toward greater centralized power by the rulers and away from the people as provided in the Constitution. Filibustering was to be a rule that helped the minority positions – a grave concern of the Founders.
Yes, there is too much power in the executive branch which should be eliminated and most federal power devolved down to the States to be closer to the people.
By executive branch are you uncluding the permanent bureaucracy? The one that makes its own rules, protects its own from any accountability, is heavily unionized, and votes for the government party?
Any Democrat that votes for this falls into 2 categories:
1) Suspects they will not be re-elected for a 2014 Republican-controlled Senate
2) Knows that we have had our last real elections prior to what comes next
Distraction...from the trainwreck of Obamacare.
It didnt pass!!!!!!
Umm...
Oh well, this is what happens when you arent calibrated to seeing 52 no votes. My bad
Its ok, just get used to seeing 51 yes votes as they stack the DC fed bench.
Darn. Now will have to try 9,000 more times like we did for O'Hellcare to get it passed.
This needed only a simply majority. Get used to it.
This is what you call rubber-stamp law making.
I hold the state of Nevada responsible for Harry Reid, and I hold public schools responsible for Barack Obama.
Public schools where?
Yes.
Indonesia.
The pricey prep school in Hawaii? That kind of public? Harvard Law? Jeremiah Wright's Sunday school? ACORN classes on obtaining power by dirty means to ruthless ends? Not that I think much of public schools.
Wonder if the Romans felt the same way as they watched their Republic slowly crumble. Next stop: Caesar.
Nah, they were too busy watching Gladiators at their favorite stadium on Saturday and Sunday.
I remember the stink years back from Dems when the GOP threatened to do the same thing.
Not a fan of Washington RINO's, but when they take back the Senate I hope it's payback time.
We'll see who wins the Prez in 2016 - that's when the shit hits the fan for possible red team payback. Even if the red team wins in 2014, Obummer is still there for another 2 years. :(
Yes,2 years of the "Lawless One" using Executive Order..
We know the evil party will always act on its reputation, but the stupid party will always pull defeat out of the jaws of victory.
Ammo is on sale, so there is that...
Americans are not going to accept this frontal assault on their country from the tyrants and the collectivists.
Tom Gresham on his Gun Talk program June 16, 2013, estimates there are 100 million Americans with guns. It’s that piece of metal that some carry in their pockets, some carry in their cars, and some have at home. It’s called a weapon.
And “according to the Geneva-based Small Arms Survey – “the leading source of international public information about firearms” – the U.S. has the best-armed civilian population in the world, with an estimated 270 million total guns. That’s an average of 89 firearms for every 100 residents…” – The Blaze, March 19, 2013.
And it’s getting even more serious. Here’s the resolve:
Guns & Ammo editor steps down after gun rights column stirs outrage | LA Times | Nov 9, 2013
It was a magazine column designed to generate a discussion of gun rights.
“Way too many gun owners still seem to believe that any regulation of the right to keep and bear arms is an infringement," the column said. "The fact is, all constitutional rights are regulated, always have been, all need to be.”
Titled "Let's Talk Limits," the column was published in the December issue of Guns & Ammo, the well-known magazine based in Florida, and written by longtime contributing editor Dick Metcalf.
And it enraged readers.
Over the last few days, opposition to Metcalf's stance reached a boiling point. On Wednesday, the magazine’s editor, Jim Bequette, posted an online letter of apology that addressed Guns & Ammo readers and announced that both he and Metcalf would no longer be working at the magazine (i.e., fired). …
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-guns-ammo-magazine-20131109,0,3766694.story#ixzz2lJ1e3gbp
As much as I hate to say it, the lights needs to go out for about 50 years. It is really time to reset. I know this may sound harsh as it will bring the worse out of people, but it will also bring the best.
Hahah I said this to a friend the other day, that they should just emp the planet and let us reset, because the gene pool has a lot of pent up drag in it.
We need 20 years of no electricity to reset civilization.
So true. Our only hope is the lights to go out for some time. We need mother nature to help us because humanity is so deep into the bullshit that it is never coming back. We all want humanity to wake up and fight back. It is not ever going to happen. No banker and other criminals will ever be prosecuted or hung for their crimes. Its nice to dream but it will not happen. Our only hope is for nature to take its course. Thats the way I see it.
20 years without lights, electric heat, or mass produced food and we might all evolve in giant eyed cannibalistic mole men with body hair issues. I am not willing to have sex with the female of that species.
no matter.
she'll rape you.
A global EMP? Remember what happened when power was cut suddenly in Fukushima?
Go long regional Warlords!
And long pork.
http://monrovia.patch.com/groups/politics-and-elections/p/chu-fellow-reps-introduce-womens-right-to-safe-abortion-bill_c880177a
Fuck you Harry. Fuck you Barry.
Do this country a favor and drink bleach!
America continues its death march into tyranny.
Harry Reid, Mafia Thug
Senator Vitter wrote a letter to the Senate Ethics Committee demanding an investigation of Reid and Democratic senator Barbara Boxer of California. "Threatening to take away their colleagues’ health care coverage subsidy if they do not vote a certain way, at worst constitutes bribery and a quid pro quo arrangement, and at best amounts to improper conduct," he wrote.
wrong reply
Are you sure you want them all gone at once? One of the following individuals will probably not be there in such an event. I'm sure an unelected twat would really do some damage (if it's possible to do more...maybe just faster, while the flock panics).
Order of Presidential Succession
The Vice President Joseph Biden
Speaker of the House John Boehner
President pro tempore of the Senate1 Patrick Leahy
Secretary of State John Kerry
Secretary of the Treasury Jacob Lew
Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel
Attorney General Eric Holder
Secretary of the Interior Sally Jewel
Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack
Secretary of Commerce Penny Pritzker
Secretary of Labor Thomas E. Perez
Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Shaun Donovan
Secretary of Transportation Anthony Foxx
Secretary of Energy Ernest Moniz
Secretary of Education Arne Duncan
Secretary of Veterans Affairs Eric Shinseki
Secretary of Homeland Security Rand Beers (acting)
"The Twilight Zone " Cradle of Darkness
Outrageous, daily Executive Orders are coming from Obummer after the Dems get whacked in November 2014. That is what this court packing is about. There was a slim hope of peaceful resistance being successful prior to this momentous vote. This is bigger than you think.
First Black Bozo in the White House or not, we are going to have to remove him from office after 2014, impeach and convict, etc.
I am not sure I would go that far, but this really is about packing the DC Circuit Court of Appeals. But really, Obama does anything he wants now such as invalidating laws and or sections thereof, that he signed and which he claims are completely constitutional.
One of his minions was notable as an open admirer of Mao who famously noted that all power eminates from the barrell of a gun. If you will notice, congree ain't got no guns other than a hand full of Capital Hill police officers.
As long as the federal law enforcement personnel and military follow his orders, he can do anything he likes, and he knows it.
Eliminating the filibuster has been tried many times before when the Democrats had the majority but not 60 votes. The senior Democrat, Robert Byrd always advised against it. Why? Because it would allow the Republicans to do the same thing when they got a simple majority. Harry Ried has to be stupid. While it is unlikely that the Republicans will have a 60-40 majority in the next 2 elections, it is possible that they will have a simple majority. In which case the shoe will be on the other foot.
Just as a thought experiment:
Let's "pretend" the two parties are actually one party, with half playing the "good cop" to the public while the other side plays "bad cop." Further, let's pretend there are incredibly powerful people in the background--e.g. industrialists, bankers, CEOs, old money families, old royalty, highest levels of military, intelligence and Security leadership, higher education, union leaders--call them collectivly "TPTB" for this hypothetical experiment. These TPTB want to get rid of a pesky risk to their near-oligarchic power, a group generally called "the middle class."
First, they need to work against the economic power of this group, so one generation's bad cops forced trade policies that opened the door to foreign markets, both for access and for production. Later, the good cops push further policies, laws and red-tape to further weaken the ability to work for a middle class wage and leave private sector companies with enough cash to move production to more countries...sucks for the little guys though. Sure, those Federal guidelines are meant to protect the environment, or to protect workers health. Just a pure coincidence that all those regs and laws favor companies with the benefit of economies of scale and slam small businesses run by the middle class.
Next, force that class's purchasing power for what matters (healthy food) down and down to where they embrace cheap but dangerous Frankenfoods. Even better, attack small farmers for patent infringement when TPTB's main agricultural tool (Monsanto) developes hybrid crops that carry with the wind and invade small heirloom seed planters. Next, force the middle class into an insurance cartel for "healthcare" with deductibles so incredibly high that it is in fact a health savings account, but they have to pay monthly premiums to use their own money for healthcare long before the "insurance" kicks in! Brilliant I say.
Finally, have the good cops change the rules of the legislature to eliminate any resistance from the bad cops, even though in the end the bad cop policies will be enacted anyway! The good cop executive may now rule further by decree, and by the time the middle class becomes aware of their peril...too late. Let's raise the retirement age to 72, and institute means-testing after you've paid into SSA for 40-years. What, you have an IRA with $120,000 in it? Why you're wealthy and have no need for SSA.
In other words spoken by the Prophet, "It's a big club, and you ain't in it."
Luckily that's all fiction...D good R bad. Baaaaaahhhhhh.
Just wanted to let you know I am stealing this part and parcel too good to leave here appreciated only by those awake for the most part..
Let me make a small comment about this post.....fucking awesome! +1
Thanks for the kind words. I wish with every fiber of my being my little entry was pure badly-explained fiction.
SO when Obongo takes a break from fudge packing... he does ultra liberal court packing. We need a recall vote law, BAD... with his ratings and the ratings of Congress, we could get a "do-over" and get rid of the cancerous "Roid" Reid too... yes, we will throw in McCain and Boner into the deal
Mr. President, yesterday morning I spoke here about a statement the Majority Leader issued calling the filibuster a “procedural gimmick.”
The Websters dictionary defines “gimmick” as – - “an ingenious new scheme or angle.” No Mr. President, the filibuster is not a scheme. And it is not new.
The filibuster is far from a “procedural gimmick.” It is part of the fabric of this institution. It was well known in colonial legislatures, and it is an integral part of our country’s 217 years of history.
...
And it is noteworthy that today the Congressional Black Caucus is opposed to the Nuclear Option.
...
For 200 years, we’ve had the right to extended debate. It’s not some “procedural gimmick.”
It’s within the vision of the Founding Fathers of our country. They established a government so that no one person – and no single party – could have total control.
Some in this Chamber want to throw out 217 years of Senate history in the quest for absolute power.
They want to do away with Mr. Smith coming to Washington.
They want to do away with the filibuster.
They think they are wiser than our Founding Fathers.
I doubt that’s true.
-Harry Reid, Reid Floor Speech on Use of Filibuster, 2005
obuma was very strongly against bush's deficit spending - until he got elected
obuma was very strongly against bush's wars until he got to control the hellfire rockets.
reid was very strongly against changing senate rules - until they got in his way.
absolute power - can it corrupt those who are already corrupt? never thought they would do it, but martial law seems so much closer now with this move in the senate, how will the MSM paint this - as unfortunate but had to be done.
So, is this the official end of America?
Since the discussion has gone the way of an ill-informed electorate I have to relay a something a friend said to me the other day regarding the government's domestic spying: "I don't care; I've got nothing to hide," he said when I brought up the topic.
I was dumbfounded, my jaw dropped. I could have come back with all the reasons why his position was stupid and short-sighted, but then I thought, "What's the use? You can't fix stupid." The majority of the populace won't even know about this Senate rule change -- even less will understand the implications.
We're all fucked.
To this, I reply: An honest person has nothing to hide until they are standing in front of a dishonest person.
He's on vacation