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So we have room to go until we get zero GDP growth and S&P 2500.
Exactly. Get f*cking used to it.
Relax everybody! Everything is FINE! Please head immediately to your nearest shopping mall for consumer assimilation therapy.
Off topic. WTF is with the sound ads that have been bombarding me on ZH lately? There any way to turn this shit off? Can I make a donation or something and get rid of this shit?
Those are the sounds of a free market at work.
I can appreciate that, but let me pay the piper and avoid shit screaming at me. And it is somehow louder than even the loudest music I can play!?!?! Real buzzkill while I'm trying to get my hedge on.
Here you go:
Step 1: Add Block Plus
https://adblockplus.org/
Step 2: Enjoy not having advertisements anymore
It's free.
Would hate to see that chart with GDP defined as it was in the '70's, instead of todays ponzi Obama market bullshit.
Anyone still confused as to why Bernocchio wants to get the hell out?
chart shows there is still plenty of room for expansion.
THANK YOU!! It Works!
Until it doesn't!
Badaba
It's the rebirth of the roaring 20's......what could possibly go wrong?
They said they never had a warning back then....consider this to be that.
> They said they never had a warning back then...
Perhaps not.
But, what they did have was a future. They already had factories. They had farms. They made things here in the way of everything a population could want or need: furnishings, textiles, electronics ... etc.
We don't have any of that any more. Our warehouses are empty, if they're still standing. We have no manufacturing of any substance. Our furnishings are made of sawdust and glue - and they tell us it's better. It's not better - it's cheaper. For them.
We have all the warnings in the world and the klaxon alarms have been sounding for 30+ years now ... but our ears have gone deaf. We have the attention span of gnats. We can't see beyond the 5" screen in front of our faces - and all that really is is just a mirror. An empty culture for an empty head.
So, perhaps they had no warning then, back in the '20's. Perhaps they got blindsided and pushed into the dirt. But the fact of the matter is, that most got back on their feet and enjoyed a level of prosperity uknown to the world in its history.
Now - we're just gonna be pushed into the dirt ... because now, that's thet goal.
Farewell, Middleclass - we hardly knew ye.
The only variable here is the definition of "End".
It could just as well be 1000 years from now, long after my life time and my next 6 generations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A3M1X7x3CU
We manufacture "fiat currency" now-----no more need for manufacturing, production, or even "real money"----fiat currency is "how we roll" and look how great it works----everyone's a winner----and they said you couldn't print your way to prosperity, go figure!
Totally agree about the North American economy being more self-sufficient, but the economy and the massive social spending of the 30s didn't really bring things back. It took the massive... and I mean truly massive... federal spending during World War II to do that. And after a brief experiment in demilitarizing the economy in the late 1940s, the military spending was ramped up as was aid to Western Europe (Marshall Plan) and Asia... the function of which was to build them back up so they could buy U.S. industrial output. When it was recognized that that would not work, more aid, debt and military spending (the Cold War) was instituted to provide the rest of the world with U.S. dollars to buy U.S. production. But by that time the U.S. went down the road of massive social spending (Johnson's Great Society) and soon the U.S. would lose it competitive advantage. By the 70s, oil prices shot up, inflation shot up, Nixon nixed the last of the gold/USD relationship, domestic oil production peaked in the U.S., credit and finance expanded, jobs began to be shipped overseas, etc.
More and more I think the expansion of the middle class was an aberration built upon post WWII temporary comparative advantage, the massive expansion of the state (military and social), and dirt cheap oil prices. Plus, in 1960 the world's population was less than half what it is today.
I shudder to think you may be right. However there could be a large middle class again in the developed world if we simply taxed all the gains from fiat creation and by law poured them into critical infrastructure. Want a new stimulus plan how about: 100% tax exemption on wages and payrolls. All taxes only on trade and consumption.
I often wonder what the economy looks like without any usury, and by my estimation it looks healthier than a paleo vegan smoothie.
"I often wonder what the economy looks like without any usuary, and by my estimation it looks healthier than a paleo vegan smoothie."
So true. I wonder what the political system looks like without graft or corruption. Is that even possible? Somehow I think our species got to where it is because of usuary and graft... it's the grease that makes the wheels go round.
But I bet you are right about taxing only trade and consumption... and leaving wages, payrolls (and savings) alone.
"taxed all the gains from fiat creation and by law poured them into critical infrastructure"
That is SOOOO true!!
"Comparative advantage"? We have an economist in our midst! Preach on professor : )
I'm not an economist but, if you can believe it, I am a prof... (don't hate me ;)
I teach media studies at a Canadian university... (so I can attest to the fact that universties are the epitome of bloat and entitlement... but then that just means it is no different from the bloat of the rest of society).
I research propaganda, persuasion, advertising (mostly military related) and such and many years ago I wanted to find out what really made the U.S. into a military and economic superpower. Then the 2007-8 crash happened and I started reading more about economics, technology, petroleum, finance... and that is what led me to places like ZH. I learned so much... still don't understand half of it. I wish I could understand more about the trading talk on ZH.
I am like many others here that think there is some terrible shit wrong. And I don't think it is just the U.S. empire that is in decline. If we are truly at peak sustainable production of oil and have left the era of cheap energy behind... then our 7 billion asses are f-ed... unless we can collectively cut back expectations and desires. And humans don't seem to be too good at that.
The upside of the curve is what we are good at, the downside... I am not so sure.
Peace.
If you are willing to learn, we are willing to tolerate you. As far as how we got here, you need to study the financial history of the US. You may find more in the comments section than in the headlines. If you haven't already, read "The Creature from Jekyll Island". For a crash course, that is as good as start as you will find.
Just keep changing the y1, y2 scales.
until someone makes you pay for it....yeah free market (eyes rolling)
Thank you - adblockplus works -
Good bye Kate Upton.
laughing because I dont know who that is
Allow me:
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=kate+upton+hot&qs=n&form=QBIR&pq=kat...
You're welcome.
Just think; somebody somewhere is getting sick of putting up with her shit. ;-)
Teh gay.
I couldn't afford her for a week! Unless she paid me...umm options, options.
Just roll her over.
Uh, how can I get my Kate Upton Ads back ? :)
I've seen better, and likely with far less hollywood attitude.
Meet Vera.
All the hotness....sans the attitude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTYRtmK-EdU&feature=related
You're welcome.
Sucks to be an Amercan...all we have is Lady Gaga and Brittney Spears......and Kate Upton can't even sing.
the other 2 can??
Thanks GZG, Vera Brezhneva is much more attractive than the dull blonde head of Kate Upton. Just learn both by now.
Kate is just exposing her big boobs but her look is so boring, i don't see any real beauty there but the dumbness!
To answer your question, I don't think contributing to ZH turns the ads or sounds off. It didn't for me anyway.
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You're correct - the site is the same whether you've donated or not. I view a donation as a karmic balancer for the steps I've taken to view the site without ads.
I had to replace the harmonic balancer on my girlfriend's SAAB 900. I hope the karmic balancer never needs a special wrench from the dealer.
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If it does, you can probably pick one up cheap at Harbor Freight. It probably won't last as long as a higher priced one, but it's one of those things that most people won't use very often.
Adds?
Really?
All this time I thought it was the voices in my head.
Well, isn't that weird!
<mute>
I still use Google Chrome (feel free to laugh), and the easiest way to turn off the adds is to stop Java script.
Just right click on the little page next to the web address, and disable javascript.
I can't watch any videos posted here, but everything else works fine.
Comodo has a privacy-minded Chrome variant called "Dragon" that has some good security built in, but I haven't been able to find ad-blocking plugins for it.
As someone below mentioned, the modified Firefox browser + Tor bundle aka Vidalia offered by the Tor project which is sponsored by the EFF (they fight the NSA) is highly recommended. It defaults with startpage.com for its home page and search tool. For extreme security, the Tails mod does this on read-only media so there's no tracks. Both are intended for whistleblowers, Chinese dissident journalists behind the Great Firewall of China and such. While there's been much skeptical light cast on the Tor project (cryptome.org and others) in terms of fed funding, and indeed its core concept of onion routing originates from the Naval Research Lab, I am still confident in the integrity of it.
If you just want to block ads and keep the database marketers out, use a combo of Firefox + AdblockPlus + DoNotTrackMe. Always use https whenever possible.
Search Bruce Schneier's blog at schneier.com for a blog post about Ghostery and the subsequent commentary for more detail on this.
If you use Tor, try getting on sites with the onion:// url. Be careful, it's the Wild West of the Internet and you are going to see some crazy fucking shit.
I use adblock plus and ghostery. Never see any ads on this site on any other. However, there a 11 trackers I am currently blocking. If enough people start using ghostery, it will end tracking permanently.
Ghostery does track you and send your anon info to advertisers if you have ghostrank on, fyi to people downloading it.
There's no perfect solution but anything is better than handing over all your info to the Google eye of sauron.
Try a two prong attack; go to http://msmvps.com/blogs/hostsnews/ and download their latest hosts file. Copy it to the appropriate location. For the most victimized OS, /windows/system32/drivers/etc/.
Then instal (if you haven't already) some flavor of Mozilla (Firefox, SeaMonkey, etc). Install a free add-on called NoScript. You will have to temporarily enable bing to see the Kate photos NTI posted. But if you temporarily enable it, it is still blocked the next time they try to steal screen real estate.
You have the best advice. Modifying the hosts file severs the connection, no third party involved. Years ago I did the hosts thing and am amused when I hear people complain about ads - they just don't happen. Usually that third party wants something too. DuckDuckGo to browse. If you're doing a lot of research, say for parts, turning java on and off is a pain. DuckDuck gets better and better. Unusually, if you have a bone to pick, the developers will actually converse with you. Imagine that.
Ive thrown in the towel on attempting to remain anon online. I let Google in, and hope they realizey output far outweighs my sentiments towards government as a whole. Besided, at this point I would think their profile of me clearly shows I have huge bark and absolutly zero bite.
Maybe I'm a luddite but I see no upside in handing over all my info to these assholes willingly.
Straight from the horse's mouth:
"Google eye of sauron." + 1 Beeeelion
I've said at every opportunity that there is no such thing as computer security because no one alive knows how any single computer works. By which I mean the company packaging the components into a product doesn't know how each component works. Hell, even the engineers themselves don't know exactly how their own product works half the time, only that it (hopefully) passes testing. This doesn't mean that it can't exhibit unexpected behaviour.
From Phoenix (one of a small number of computer bios manufacturers) own developer blog
"You would think that, after all of these years of working as a BIOS engineer, in a company stuffed-full of assembly-language expertise, there would be nothing to catch us off guard. But it happened with a single line of assembly.
call rax"
So, those best able to compromise security would be those with best access to technical documents and source code, engineers working with the NSA for example. And Google, perhaps.
Understanding DMA Malware TL:DR - Intel Chipset PCs (and probably all others also) can access everything in memory including keystrokes in a way that can't be detected by anti-virus software and can use the network card even when you think your PC is switched off.
That's Uni researchers and not NSA analysts with access to all technical docs (In the case of Intel, requiring two seperate NDAs to be signed. Good luck) of companies with American offices.
Wondering how stuxnet took out the Iranian nuclear systems even though they were seperated by an air gap? I'm still betting on a USB key carelessly used by an employee or smuggled in by an agent but, then,
BadBIOS - TL:DR - As we learned from the previous document, the BIOS controls legacy functions like PC Speaker (beep) and perhaps microphone, these *may, hypothetically* be used as a modem to transmit virus from one bios to another at ultrasonic frequencies. That would be a neat trick that no-one has seen before but so was taking out centrifuges.
This brings me back to the "Google eye of sauron." And here it is:
Google Thinking Machines - TL:DR - "Google no longer understands how its "deep learning" decision-making computer systems have made themselves so good at recognizing things in photos."
Recognising things in photos today, other paterns tomorrow. Security vulnerabilities in circuit diagrams and computer software, perhaps.
Welcome to the brave new world, sirs.
B.
I use abine DoNotTrackMe addon for Firefox. It blocks companies and social media tracking...
Using Dragon.
AdBlock work for me.
chrome-extension://gighmmpiobklfepjocnamgkkbiglidom/options/index.html
The above didn't work so try this.
http://help.comodo.com/topic-120-1-279-2565-.html
@ wahrheit
hopefully all the stuffs that you just mentioned could help to create other brave young men such as Bradley Edward Manning (aka. Chelsea Elizabeth Manning now after his transexual change) or Edward Joseph Snowden to break the clouts of silence and 1984-style totalitarian state.
Paying them would be like paying ransom to Somali pirates - you just get more pirates (or more obnoxious adds)
want to couple it with this so you can keep your emails from being overran with spam and having your comp loaded with cookies, PLUS who needs the NSA tracking everything you do? http://www.ghostery.com/ I am blocking 11 tracking devices as I type this.
Considering how overly optimistic gdp projections have been, that chart could end up looking much worse.
Openened a Fortune Cookie. Slip said, "Stock market rise until GDP improves."
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I don't know how to vote on this quote.
Are the ads the sound of a free market at work or is it expressing a desire to pay so they shut the hell up? Second, are you praising the free market or ridiculing it for A) bombarding us with stupid loud ads and B) creating artificial shut up demand (breaking windows to sell repair services) instead of real product demand (spending to improve our condition rather than renting the status quo)? Because, personally, the same 3-5 ads screaming about car insurance or Viagra clones on every single website or TV channel are quite frankly making "capitalism" look ridiculous. Where's all of the cool stuff a free market should bring us? Or do we have to settle for nothing but car insurance and Viagra clones because that's most profitable so that's all anybody wants to sell?
It was just a snarky comment. Most of us use AdBlock anyway so I haven't experienced your level of annoyance with the ads.
The answer to your problems (though speed may take a hit).
https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en
Thanks pal, i'll give it a try.
Just add bitcoins and you can buy hard drugs on the internet.
If you feel it's safe to do so.....
Use "AdBlock" a free plugin for Chrome. Ads vanish from most web sites.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/adblock/gighmmpiobklfepjocnamgkkbiglidom?hl=en
The BEA and Federal Reserve have a new plan that could help boost our GDP output substantially. It requires that a simple market value be placed on all sexual acts occurring in the economy...
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/11/04/economists-plot-a-new-tak...
Congratulations, Zhead, you just discovered the latest means to bullshit the numbers.
Only problem here is they will be counting Chinese revenues (minus some fuzzy export/import factor) for most manufactured shit.
Turn your volume down to ZERO, and the problem is solved.
Block them! in Opera right click anywhere on the webpage) then select which ads you want to block.
Most annoying. My simple remedy is to turn off the sound on my device.
Chrome. AdBlock.
I just mute my computer volume unless I actually want to listen to something. At one point I tried Adblock but I seem to remember that it slowed down the web pages so I got rid of it. Maybe I should try it again - but muting works fine for me.
get one of your grandchildren to turn the volume down or MUTE
Use "AdBlock" a free plugin for Chrome. Ads vanish from most web sites.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/adblock/gighmmpiobklfepjocnamgkkbiglidom?hl=en
Hi, Mad Mohel:
You need either the FireFox browser, or the Chrome browser. With either one of those, you can have ad-blocking extensions added to them. Fuck those commercials.
Time to learn technology - get Google Chrome or Firefox, if you're not using either already, and install AdBlock. Just google it if you have any issues.
If you are using Safari or Firefox, look at the plugin called AdBlock.
If you are using SRWare Iron or Palemon (the leaner version of Chrome and Firefox), look at the plugin called AdBlock. Iron is known as Chrome without privacy concerns.
"All is Well. Remain Calm".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro
I can just picture the Bernanke in his office saying: "Nonsense. Steiner's assault will bring it under control..."
So, maybe we're looking at this the wrong way. Maybe world GDP will hit 7%
And yeah...../sarc
And then some more room until we get to -100% GDP growth and S&P 25000.
Demand an investigation
http://www.youtube.com/embed/pj2Y0nbThIY?autoplay=1
No manipulation in sight! I can't see any, stocks respond to fundamentals. Economics professors say so...........
Nonsense, stocks can go up even when GDP growth is negative.
WTF!!
http://www.democratic-republicans.us/images/Albert-Thomas-LadyBird-LBJ-J...
Tepper say's there is no bubble tho right? - http://hedge.ly/1c7IE91
QE will do that
It looks like money has nowhere to go.
Then why doesn't some of it go into gold?
It's going to be epic when this game comes to a crashing end.
may we live in interesting times
I have a feeling most of us will be wishing for the old boring days once the S finally HTF.
wishing for our Benny-boy back ? perhaps
I'm listening to that RHINO records compilation "Have a Nice Day" ,, all the shit songs from the 1970's that I hated then sound pretty good now ... I'd love to be reliving the Carter years and know that we have 40 years before it all comes down and Reagan in the "on-deck" circle. I'd run out and get a SD455 Trans Am and fill the passenger seat with the first skinny white chick I could find.
and may the odds ever be in your favor.
I do not understand the moaning.
There is no market. There is no economy. It is all dictated. Why are you playing? Why is anyone playing? HFT is over 50% of volume and EPS numbers are all generated via share buybacks financed at 0% interest rates.
This has no precedent in history at all. There is no reason to care about P/E comparisons to history when E means nothing and has never existed in that form in all of history.
The game is over. Stop playing. Get out of equities and stay out. Don't short. Don't long. Just stop. If you play, you'll lose everything. Just don't play.
But my companies 401k admin says we should be putting at least 10% of our pay in the "markets". Over the long haul, we should see a 10% growth.
I wanted to reach through the phone and strangle the douche.
There is only one other person in our office who gets it. The rest are lambs being led to slaughter.
I was chuckling at a party last week, these two guys were saying how they started contributing and are putting in the max. I just grinned and told them how I had just did the exact opposite. Now all I have to do is leave my job to be able to take it all. (minus uncle mao's take, of course...)
I was happy to cash out my former comany 401k this year and pay Uncle Mao his shakedown money
I've been DCA'ing that sum into PM's over the last 2 months. This week was my biggest purchase.
Sorry to hear about your boat going down like that! You must've lost everything.
:-)
401k in service withdrawal?
I had just did the exact opposite.
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Dave Ramsey kills me with his "for the long term" advice ... In 1999 I failed to get through to my brother-in-law that he needed to quit his job at HD IMMEDIATELY to preserve his wealth (15,500 shares!) and go into cash or bonds or something... Home Depot at that time was having it's first ever storewide sale ,,, everything 10% or 15% off or something ... of course it meant they were going to miss in a big way and they did ... and of course they fired staff to cut expenses ... he got fired 2 years after that after losing about 65% of $1.2M
Crash Agree, get out of paper everything.....now.
i work for a bank and have a 30 day holding period. if i did not have that holding period, i would be rich. it really is very simple, buy every fucking dip and then sell and buy the next dip. however, at some point and it could be anytime, the thing is going down. and that's what they want, the suckers will lose 30% at least in minutes. but, if you aren't restrained, buy it. and buy bit coins. i can't, but i would if i could. and yes QE did work, because those of us in banking still have jobs and bonuses. that's bernake's 'it helped employment' mantra.
The herding of the sheeple into stawks has only just begun, wait til they see the Business Section headlines this weekend...
We don't need GDP growth, Just Debt Growth the proceed of which go straight to stocks.
Japan shows that Debt can go to at least 250% of GDP which means we have about $20 Trillion more in debt we can go.
I hope the chinese start buying the debt again!
When gum is $5 a stick, GDP will probably be pretty high.
If gum is $5 a stick then there won't be enough affordable dental services left to keep the teeth that are necessary to chew that gum. How many folks can chew gum without teeth? Yeah, that's what I thought.
Depends on if you are holding PM's, you could probably pay for dental for the whole county and buy them a pack of gum to boot.
@assumptionblindness
Not with metals at these fucking prices you won't, if your are lucky the whole county will get a spool of floss.
And still the personnel in charge of guiding the world's largest economy ( for now ) fail to see the almighty train smash straight ahead , chosing instead to go on repeating and exacerbating their mistakes.
They see it better than everyone...why else woud the Bernank step down? They are trying to instill confidence, kicking the can and praying somethin happens. We'll see how their paryers are answered, but one ting is for sure: God doesn't suffer fools! Bahahahahaha!
They have been busy working on the ACA,can't you tell ?
Don't forget when the market finally cracks, they will ban short selling and inverse efts and if it gets bad enough probably ban puts
Yet they are fine with paper gold/silver shorting - seems they are terrified of PM's overshadowing the $.
Inverse ETF's never accomplished their goal for periods longer than a few days at a time. They are useless for shorting markets.
Very true! I have the battle scars to show it.
Much better to short the markets by buying gold.
I just spent all my gold to buy into the cult......came with a $6350 deductible.
If they ban puts they have to eliminate calls as well. If you don't understand that symmetry don't trade options. More likely in a major crash they just close the markets for awhile and let them all expire(i.e. there will be no market, nor market makers to provide liquidity) . That's why if you must gamble, only do so with options, so you have well defined losses, no matter how quick the crash.
That's what we need: GDP down to slightly above zero, markets ad adstra!
So what happens when we hear taper or rumor of taper?
Not only will there be no taper.....in all likelihood QE will increase.
bitcoin to God knows what bitchez.
remember the good old days when the largest company's missed earnings the market would go down and not hit all time all time highs.
Intel down 5%???
But of course, good news is just around the corner. Why? Because Barry and kool aid cult say so!
bankers jumping out of windows and shit
I'll drink to that.
The good news is with those guys gone....there will be just that much more for us.
Chin chin.
Throw a skull on that bad boy and you've got the Jolly Roger.
That cross is as big as the one on my head!
Is that you "Charlie"?
You'll have to tell us how you got your account.
No but I am getting married!
Obama wants to stretch this out three more years so the disaster happens on someone elses watch...well, with the new found love in congress thanks to Harry's Reid's thoughtful behavior, maybe O will go down as the worst President in history after our economy is fucked.
"maybe"?
Really. "Maybe"?
Obama just extralegally postponed the 2014 Obamacare enrollment date by one month so that it starts after the 2014 election.
That means nothing in the big scheme of 0zer0care. The sticker shock of private plans is already happening NOW and is what has freaked out the dumbcrats. The problem facing dumbcrats in 2014 is the EMPLOYEE plans, and that will be 10-100 times worse than what is happening now. 0zer0 can't do anything to stop the employee plan clusterfuck about to happen. The 0zer0care death spiral has started. The risk pools are being obliterated with only high risk signups. This is going to massively hike rates for 2015. Those rate hikes will be known to business next summer when they do their annual business plans. That's when businesses will be forced to cut employee plans to save cost. Estimates are 50-100 million will lose their EMPLOYEE plans. Because HC is a benefit, business are required to WARN employees 60 days ahead of the change that will take place on 1/1/2015. That means notification letters go out in October 2014. There is nothing 0zer0 can do about it. Even postponing the employer mandate another year won't matter. The 0zer0care train is coming straight for the dumbcrats and they are all tied to the tracks. The only way they escape is if the stupid repugs come along and untie them from the tracks.
true, but the kneejerk rule-'unenforced' status as declared by zer0 came anyway, thinking they could mitigate the disaster.
just lends more credence to the idiot factor in that crowd....if they kneejerk so badly with stuff like this, how could they possibly be planning...anything at all aside from trying to get it all single payer.
You can count on Oboehner and McConnell to rescue the Demoncraps from their frenzied rampage of self-destruction on cue. We can expect no less from the self-serving moron party.
Snatching defeat from the mouth of victory has been their modus operandi for over a decade now.
if this spills over into insurance markets for government employees then without a doubt "Ted Cruz has won." We the People are looking for an alternative to the two party State. So far i only see one alternative...but there could be more. It's not easy to set up a even a third party...let alone a fourth or fifth. i wish the latter two the best of luck.
Meh...Cruz has already been discounted, painted as tea partier which means, in free shit army speak, bad person.
Hillary is president next. We must suck on the exhaust pipe. The TeeVee watching masses with minimal brain power know nothing other than what the propaganda tells them. Still well over 50% democrats think Obama isdoing a great job.
Nothing I can think of will prevent the inevitability of President Clinton - Rise of the C*nt.
It's not snatching defeat from the jaws of victory once you realize that the Ds and Rs are on the same team: the coddle-the-rich-at-all-costs team.
This is the message that needs to be disseminated to the masses.
This is the message that needs to be disseminated to the masses.
GDP anything to do with equity prices? That's fundamental stuff.... hence not related to equity prices
It's all good.....
The death cross will be when politicians don't allocate enough of the largesse to the hungry masses.
Cutting SNAP and fucking over the middle class with Obamacare and a steady decline in career employment is a miscalculation.
The labels and monikers are different but the attitude of the elites and the house of cards being built is no different than France 1789.
ebworthen TPTB will drop a war on us at the point you speak of OR mankind will be given a new invention that is a game changer to save the day. Script for this play was written long ago, pop some popcorn.
Who are they going to send to bleed and die in their bankster wars. Pansies and Lesbos?....Gungrabbing progressive jihadists from Joo York? That will put some stress on the old adage, "There aint no athiests in foxholes".
If they try to re-institute the draft, look out Canada, here we come.
Hoot all they will do is set of a nuke in a large city and the people will flock to get revenge on the pointed out enemy!
Your funny. Obviously the night is your friend.
When the Equitty index hits 2000 it gets yet another superfluous "t"
It's science