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Europe Shocked, Furious While Putin Triumphs Again: Ukraine Spurns Europe, Turns Toward Moscow
Yesterday, Ukraine was faced with a historic choice: "go West" by signing a new trade pact with the European Union and align against its former master the USSR... or "East", and go back, at least symbolically, to mother Russia. To Europe's shocked amazement, the Ukraine picked "East" in yet another very visible win for Vladimir Putin in what has just been the former KGB spy's year. Sure enough, Putin spokesman's welcomed "the desire to improve and develop trade and economic cooperation" with a "close partner". Europe on the other hand, was shocked and appalled at this unprecedented snub: "This is a disappointment not just for the EU but, we believe, for the people of Ukraine," EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton said in a statement. Ah yes, because Europe's unelected dictators are so concerned with the popular choices of wayward "democracies."
Reuters adds, "European officials were dismayed. Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt, a veteran of east-west diplomacy, tweeted: "Ukraine government suddenly bows deeply to the Kremlin. Politics of brutal pressure evidently works."" Well that, or a rational choice by a country that at least has the option of saying no to the European Pandorafornia Hotel... Box - to most others this choice has been irrevocably eliminated by the unelected banker-supported Brussels bureaucrats.
Ukraine had been due to sign a wide-ranging trade and cooperation agreement with the EU on November 29 which would have tugged it westwards and away from Russia's sphere of influence. Brussels said the deal would have boosted investment in the cash-strapped country of 46 million people.
Earlier, EU officials said President Viktor Yanukovich had cited fears of losing massive trade with Russia when he told an EU envoy this week that he could not agree terms.
Yanukovich's prime minister issued the dramatic order to suspend the process in the interests of "national security" and renew "active dialogue" with Moscow. EU officials, who had hoped the president's complaints in recent days were a last-minute bargaining tactic, saw little chance of saving the deal.
For Europe, a pact with the Ukraine would have had profound symbolic implications:
Luring it westward has been a strategic objective for the EU, to tear down the last remnants of the old Iron Curtain.
But shuttle diplomacy was dogged for months by EU pressure for Yanukovich to release jailed opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko, who European leaders consider a political prisoner.
Moscow meanwhile had threatened retaliation for Kiev's moves west, raising fears it could cut energy supplies in new "gas wars".
Ah, gas. And rather Gazprom's unprecedented monopoly power. Not to mention the cause for the near-break out of World War III when Europe desperately sought a gas pipeline outlet to Qatar just to avoid the Russian dominance over its energy needs. As is well-known by now, Europe failed, as did the US and Saudi Arabia. Putin won. Again.
Ukraine's parliament, dominated by Yanukovich's allies, prepared the way for the announcement by rejecting a series of bills that would have satisfied the EU by letting Tymoshenko out of prison to travel to Germany for medical treatment.
Shortly afterwards, Prime Minister Mykola Azarov issued the order on suspending the EU process. Talks would be revived with Russia, other members of a Moscow-led customs union and the former Soviet Commonwealth of Independent States.
European governments, especially those dominated by Moscow during the Cold War, have been keen to anchor Ukraine's bulk and population closer to the West, though others have doubted whether corruption and oppression make it a viable partner.
Promptly following the announcement, Europe piled on, adding threats to amazement:
Sweden's Bildt foresaw Ukraine's economy declining and said the rupture would "kill" Kiev's foreign investment prospects. EU officials told Reuters that when Yanukovich met the EU'S point man on Ukraine, Stefan Fuele, on Tuesday, the Ukrainian leader had said he could not agree to the deal.
It would, he said, cost Kiev $500 billion in trade with Russia over the coming years, while implementing demands for Ukraine to adopt EU legal and other standards would cost another $104 billion. Some EU diplomats had viewed that stance as brinkmanship, an effort to secure better terms.
Or math. Which is why only Germany, which is the last rational European actor had the most delicate words:
Germany's Westerwelle spoke of wishing that Ukraine would share the EU's values and choose a "European path of development" but made clear that was up to Kiev.
"Our interest in good relations with Ukraine is unbroken and our offer of a real partnership still stands," he said in a statement. "The ball is in Kiev's court. It is their sovereign right to decide on their path freely."
Regardless of the latest political humiliation for Europe, there was one clear winner that day.
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Ronald Reagan tried to warn the Euro states about the danger of the Russian natural gas pipeline monopoly. But did they listen? Noooooooooooooo.....
Heaven forbid the Commies step into the "Monopoly Game".........hehehehheeh.......I thought that was all "ours"......BWAAAAAAAAAAA....... I guess after all "we've done" helping the little satellites they decided the "beast" errr "bear" was the better choice of evil.....hehehehehe
Think Putin read Z-Bigs "The Grand Chess Board"?
You think he didn't?
I hope your ? is as rhetorical as mine.
Do you?
No, not really?
In that case, no.
Huh?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI2_Q1M_2d0
The USA is a joke now and Eastern Europe, the Baltic countries and former Soviet satellites have been sold out.
Why would they go with the totally corrupt EUSSR as well. Sad. As bad as the Russians are - they are less corrupt than Washington DC/Wall Street/Silicon Valley and Brussels. Putin was the only one standing up for Christians in Syria as the Saudis Al Qeada backed by the USA were killing innocent people in Syria.
Putin is light years better than Obama, Baroso/Van Rompouy and anything in the 3 main parties in the UK.
"Russian Communist Party Awards Stalin Medal to Backdoor Barry."
The Russians will take all of Ukraine. You have to remember that Ukraine fed the USSR. It could have fed all of Europe. They also made up the bulk of the ex Soviet Army. Russians don't really send their kids to war..just everyone elses. Anyway, I don't think this was the choice of the Ukrainian people but more a deal between the Mafia Leadership that has stolen everything from Ukraine and the Russian Mafia aka Putin and friends. Putin probably promised he wouldn't throw Yanukovych and his son in jail and take all their stolen money if they decide to join the Russians.
Not good for Europe (You can thank stupid fucking France/Germany, they have always had a thing against Ukraine joining Europe) but in the long run will be worse for Ukraine.
"Russians don't really send their kids to war..just everyone elses."
What utter crap!
The Russians lost millions of soldiers and civilians in WW2. The Germans had 5 times as many soldiers on the Eastern Front as on the Western Front (i.e. confronting the USA, UK, Canada and so on). Of course, they had lots of Ukrainians and many other nationalities in their army as well - but it was predominately Russian.
Your a fucking idiot...who were the first troops to enter Berlin, who were the majority of troops in Afghanistan? When Ukraine seperated the Russians had their asses kicked by a couple thousand Chechens. Kind of hard to fight when all your best soldiers were from other countries.
Stupid fuck learn some history.
El Tuco said- "Stupid fuck learn some history."
Well that guy Nassim is absolutely correct in his observation and you are wrong.
Now, about those magnificent fighting Ukrainians-
Surely you are talking about Cossacks. They are an ethnicity, not a nationality. The lines of the map have changed many, many, times around their feet. They have been around since the 12th century or so.
At times they have been in what is (now) Ukraine, Poland, Austria-Hungary, and mostly in Russia proper. They have a long military tradition and have been around for many centuries. They have served many empires, Kings, Tsars, and other powers such as the white army (Btw, the Red Army crushed them). They are Slavic and Orthodox Christian.
Currently, there are large groups of them all over the place. They are not "Ukraninans". They tried unsuccesfully to secure their traditional territory and found the independent state of Cossakia. The traditional territory of the Cossacks is well East of, and far OUTSIDE of Ukraine.
I bet you didn't know that Ukraine as a country and sovereign state is a recent 20th century occurence.
El Tuco said- "Stupid fuck learn some history."
Oh by the way, you have a beam in your eye...
Ukrainians had quite a few in the Waffen-SS
If the other choice was the EU , can hardly blame the Ukraine.
Why should they ? Russia has supplied natural gas to Europe for decades without problems. Reagan simply wanted to control European nations much as the US government tries today to use NSA intercepts and threats to control puppet states like Italy, Germany, UK, France to do their bidding.....but the population of Europe is tired of this old game
No one can stand in this mans way, especially the USSA
If you were the Ukraine and had to chose between Putin and Obama plus Baroso & Van Rompuy (EUSSR) who would you chose? A "reformed" marxist with a brain or 3 active, idiotic and more evil communists?
Not a tough choice.
Not a Marxist or Communist on that list. They're all Fascists. There's nothing remotely "Marxist" or "Communist" about combining corporate and state power to the sole benefit of crony corporate oligarchs. It's textbook fascism to hand over everything to a mortally wounded finance industry, enforce it with all the power of government, and let the cronies loot at will.
+10 to someone that understands the difference. But don't be too hard on those that rail against communists. The reality is communists never implemented marxism, but instead really implemented Stalinism or Maoism, which in practical terms, was nothing but Fascism since the state controlled all means of production. They just called it communism because the business workers were all members of the Communist Workers Party. But in reality, the workers never controlled shit, the party or govt did. People really should refer to that form of fascism as Stalinism or Maoism, but communism is simply easier.
Thanks for the great point. But I have to ask, has anyone ever implemented Marxism? And if not, then why not?
No, nobody has implemented Marxism. The reason why is simple. Marxism does not contain enough incentives to motivate actors to participate in it. Lacking incentives, it needs to be implemented by force, and as soon as you implement a political system by force, you will see the formation of a small power group who then decides how the system will be implemented, who will benefit, who will carry it out and so on. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
If you want a political system that requires the minimum amount of force by the state/government/chief then you need to look to the incentives to participate. Take the United States for example. It once had the most progressive legal and political structure on earth that allowed citizens to redress grieviances through non-violent means, and protect property rights. This created unprecedented incentive for citizens to participate in the system voluntarily, and made the US the most prosperous and generally free nation in history.
By taking away rights granted in the US constitution, the power structure in the US is removing incentives for voluntary participation, and when participation is no longer voluntary, then it needs to be enforced by violence, implied or actual.
Spoken like a true product of your environment and the western world.
Good point; but I would have to say that it was Leninism in the revolution, not Stalinism. Stalinism is just a name for his regime, really. Stalin was a brutal beast who was ambitious and cunning, but he was not an intellectual or a political or economic theorist.
Marx's model calls for a prolonged evolution from Capitalism to Socialism- i.e. a socioeconomic system based on cooperative ownership of the means of production, before a subsequent evolution from Socialism to Communism. You do not implement Communism by diktat in a poor and feudal Monarchy (Russia) or in a severely impoverished state (China). It doesn't work that way and is "Communism" in name only.
Can't believe I'd ever say this.......go Russia!!
The orwellian bizarro world in which we live never ceases to boggle my mind but at least on the surface, Putin is the best thing going geopolitically. Oddly I had pondered going to the Ukraine ( where most of my lineage hails from and the city where I get my last name from) to see if I liked it enough to live there. I didn't like the politics of it at the time but this changes things.
There's a city in the Ukraine named "Dirtlump?"
Sounds lovely.
Probably nicer than Detroit, Camden, NJ, Oakland and Chicago to name just a few shitholes.
Even Roadapple, a town near Dirtlump, is nicer than those places.
Well I'm a Canadian originally from overseas, and I would tell you to get real about moving to a place like Ukraine. If it was a first-world country like say Germany, then of course. But those "non-first-world" countries are great to visit, but you wouldn't want to live there. (of course things are different if you're very rich but that's a different story)
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"Go East young man!"
Who is surprised by this? seriously.. ?
Western Europe is a clusterfk catering to ngs and arabs on welfare.
Agreed, the EU is a mess and our child president is a completely unreliable ally! It really was a no brainer!
The USA is as bad and as corrupt as the EU-SSR.
take that u fucking Eur'hoes...
Keep stackin...........................
Ha hahaha hahahahaha
Ok just DON'T tell Jim "All EURO All the time" Rickards about this... He is Euro sensative...
Sweet! What are Ukraine's immigration policies?
Is this surprising ? The Eurofascists have just become another version of the U.S.S.R, the only difference being that they're a bunch of pussies.
Yup, Merkel and Lagarde are the best men they have.
It is rare to see the MSM in the west, without at least one or two articles portraying Putin in less than favourable light. Must be hard to look at all those resources in the Russia in control of the Russians.
I think the main difference is that Russia have LOTS of gas, surely? Plenty of pussy in Moscow, so I'm told.
Maybe their politicians actually read the Agreement, and spotted the (Blank)fine-print that says they must buy EU fiat currency and Derivatives.
Someone clearly realized it was not in their best interest to get intimate with this 'Trojan', lest they trade in their wealth into "paper chits issued by a private bank with religious biases"**
** Per @oddjob 4181774
I sense that the EU Banksters (London, Paris) want to keep their game of Global Stratego going, to encircle Russia from all sides, and devour natural resources one country and one regime at a time. Until they control all the world's riches and rule over its billions of minions. Then the real Temple worship can begin/resume.
Shows the Ukrainian people and there Government have brains unlike the American citizen that is soon to be going extinct because of it's hubris and egocetric behavior towards the East. Watch the CIA/DoD using more "stick" activity with it's favorite puppet Saakashvili in Georgia as punishment for non-cooperation.
With the Chinese moves on the petro dollar I'd say we're fast approaching the laws of diminishing returns.
It's all about to unceremoniously disassemble with the $buck stopping right where it belongs.
Couldn't happen to nicer crowd either.
Saakashvili is no longer Georgian president. He lost the last election to Giorgi Margvelashvili who became Georgian president 5 days ago (Nov. 17).
Jorgen
Much obliged on the news update from that election.
The slow motion train wreck that is the United States of America has sort of preoccupied me, I didn't really notice.
Let's hope it's an important development that rids Georgia of the American Empire completely along with the chemical and biological weapons we've been funding that Country to build for the past decade.
I think the World is finally waking up to the menace that we are and have been for some time.
Putin showed remarkable restraint by not rolling over Tiblisi and putting "the western rose" Saakashvili's head on a pike. It would have taken him two-three days tops.
This is a purely logical outcome when Russia sends in Putin and the EU sends in...well...EU officials.
Edit: And the most revealing thing in all of this is that the EU demanded Yulia Tymoshenko (a jailed criminal that somehow made billions during her years in office) to be released while neither the EU or any of its member states has the balls to invite Edward Snowden to testify or offer him asylum.
The Russian Ronnie Ray Gun's recent offer was very straight forward- if Ukraine signs with the Eurotards and what's left of the European MIC, then Ukraine will lose its huge slice of the Russian MIC that wasn't already pulled out of Ukraine when the USSR broke up, right in the middle of a huge MIC spending boom that creates a fuck-ton of manufacturing jobs.
What does that tell you. The west is overrun by the monster now. Stay as far away as you can get. Complete freedom for the rich and connected, and to hell with everyone else.
It appears that Kramer was wrong and the Ukraine is not weak afterall.
Is it me or did we not hear anything of or about Putin for weeks?
Cant be on purpose...nahh
“Yanukovich in person got himself guarantees from Russia that he would be re-elected for a second term, a sort of gas price discount, and also 20 billion dollars for himself and his entourage, of which they will steal half, and the other half will be spent for the election campaign, so that Yanukovich would falsify the result and get the post in 2015,”
http://www.euractiv.com/europes-east/opposition-leader-yanykovich-tra-ne...
On 15 December 1967, at the age of 17, Yanukovych was sentenced to three years incarceration for participating in a robbery and assault.[18] The sentence was later reduced to 18 months as part of the amnesty announced in commemoration of the 50th anniversary of the October Revolution. The court did not show Yanukovych clemency, a practice common for young, first-time offenders. At the court trial Yanukovych pleaded guilty and did not appeal his sentence even though he had the chance to do so at the expense of the state.[citation needed]
On 8 June 1970 he was convicted for a second time on charges of assault and was sentenced to two years of imprisonment. The verdict was not appealed. Decades later, Yanukovych characterized his arrests and incarceration as "errors of youth".[19]
On 11 July 2005, the office of the Donetsk Oblast Prosecutor charged Mr. Yanukovych with fraud[20] stemming alleged irregularities in the way his convictions were expunged twenty years earlier.[21] In 2006 the General Prosecutor of Ukraine closed the case due to lack of evidence.[22] In 2006 a criminal charge was filed for the falsification of documents regarding the alleged quashing of Yanukovych's prior convictions after it was discovered that two documents had been forged. The signature of the judge in Yanukovych's case had also been forged as a charge of battery.[18][19] The charge failed because all documentation regarding the conviction had been destroyed due to its expiry.[ wikipedia
Yes, he is a gangster. Do you think Obama, Bush, Blair, Cameron, Berlusconi, Harper, Hollande and so on are any different?
Putins da man.
Barry's wildest wet dream of imperial executive privilege isn't da man- he's the man.
MOSCOW, November 8 (RAPSI/RIA Novosti) – Russian lawmakers with the ruling United Russia party presented a draft bill Friday to make it illegal to promote secessionism and sympathize with separatist movements. The proposed measure comes in the face of increasing public support for the idea of relinquishing mainly Muslim territories in the restive North Caucasus. If the bill is passed, agitating for secession will become punishable by a sentence of between three and six years in prison. People found guilty of producing, owing and distributing separatist publications could face penalties of five to seven years in prison. Planning, organizing or publicly promoting activities aimed at threatening the integrity of Russia could be punishable by between six and 12 years in prison.
Tough one...
Hang with the bankrupt Euros or go to the guy who can keep you warm in winter?
Yanukovich is not gonna let Tymoshenko out for any reason. The blonde Princess Leia can rot in jail.
Yanukovich is a felon who was charged for murder. He strangled a man. He and his son have stolen billions from Ukraine. Tymoshenko at least paid out all the folks who worked without a pay check for years (teachers, etc) when she came to power.
Yanukovich on the other hand threaten everyone who worked for him or his cronies that if they didn't vote for him they would be fired from their jobs. HE stole the election like every dollar he has.
Tymoshenko should be set free you dumb fuck...
Tymoshenko was a party to the gas deal which sold gas to a Swiss company which later sold it to Ukraine - at a much higher price. The oligarchs of Russia and Ukraine did very well out of it.
"Ironically, it was Tymoshenko who cut Firtash out of his role as a “middleman” partner of Gazprom through Swiss-registered RosUkrEnergo. As prime minister in early 2009, she brokered a new supply agreement with then-prime minister Vladimir Putin. And it was that agreement that eventually landed her in jail."
http://blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2013/11/19/ukraine-whos-being-selective...
Please....She went to jail because she was a threat to Yanukovych and his son. She stood in their way , they couldn't steal as much.
Yanukovich was charged twice for robbery and once for gang-rape.
Yanukovich represents Donetsk mob clan and Tymoshenko represents Dnepropetrovsk mob clan (mostly Jewish). Both Yanukovich and Tymoshenko has made billions-worth personal fortunes from stolen state money.
Tymoshenko is in "jail" (90% of Ukrainian population lives in much worth conditions than her "jail/hospital") because those clans couldn't split their interests areas in a "civilized" way (if the word "civilized" ever applies to such people).
The most surprising thing is that EU politicians take sides in the mob clash.
The fair outcome for both Yanukovich and Tymoshenko would be destiny of Nicolae Ceau?escu.
Mikhail Borisovich Khodorkovsky is the other poster boy for Western politicians
Can't blame them really. I've been boycotting evereything European since they began raiding bank accounts.
"Checkmate" is becoming a regular thing for the Russkies.
Check ,not checkmate.
With the Chinese only left with one move in the GO game encircling
the USA, Putin is also getting closer to the checkmate.
Shame Obozo is too busy playing with himself to notice..
"USG Shocked as former Confederate States sign Special Trade Agreement with The Russian Federation."
"Putin Offers Advanced S600 Air Defense System to Confederacy."
"FSA Army on the run from Sunbelt States' armies aided with Russian Advisors."
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NYT: "Backdoor Barry left with Four Bankrupt States and DC as Regime Shrinks."
I would not want to be sitting opposite the Tsar in poker OR chess...
It looks like the Orange (so-called) Revolution has finally failed. That's good. It's time to disband NATO and start trading with Russia instead trying to devise ways of surrounding, invading and occupying it. With only 140m people and a border 1000 east of where the old Soviet Union's was, Russia is not a threat to US or to Europe - it is the other way round. Though extremely difficult to hold and occupy, Russia has tempting natural resources and a long and easily penetrable border, making it desirable and easy to invade. Europe's 500m people are much more of a threat to Russia than Russia is to it. So let us just forget about war with Russia and do some honest trading. Perhaps we can thank Snowden for this good fortune. Ukraine would be foolish to join Europe and get spied on.
...Ukraine aligns with Russia. Tit for Tat...Western Canada is up next folks. A plethora of Natural Resources and only 12.5 million citizens. How soon will the USSA annex Western Canada?
the one part that DOES believe in having guns all the time, AND with parts hitting -50 C in winter? OK then, go for it.
if the ranchers don't do it the winter will Murrkinz ain't built for Canadian winters.
Putain ! Comments Presidet Hollande.
LOL FUCK YOU, EU!
message to the EU...."we've had our fill with communism"
Ukraine is playing both sides, as they should.
They just got a deal from Slovakia to purchase nat-gas from Europe to remove the monopoly that Russia had over it.
Short of tanks in the street, this is just finding the best suppliers...
Good choice, Ukraine
'Vlad to give chess lessons to all competitors with a free gambit to all comers?' But, first must smoke the Russian`Pipeline`istan toke?!?'
Gasprov, Lukoil, and *Rosneft (state owned*)
http://en.ria.ru/world/20130927/1837776710.html
...and, from the Roving`Eye today -- 11/22/13 by Pepe Escobar, pretty much sums up the post main thesis(?)...
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MID-02-221113.html
Canada can eat your heart out(!)... but mother russia will drink-U zee vodKA? on the Queen's throne :-))
The Ukraine is an absolute mess. Nothing works, the cities are filthy, the villages are back in the Middle Ages, packs of dogs running the streets at night, the few goods that are produced are shoddy, the food is inedible, you have to bribe everyone on the ladder to get anything done, and with the exception of a few mobsters who have all the money the population is broke and terrified. Under those circumstances it wasn't hard for Russia to push them around because Europe wasn't really offering anything of substance.
But the babes are hot - the ones who eat regularly anyway - until they turn 30 or so. At that point they turn into porkers. Caveat emptor.
best location, location, location for transport-- across the black sea is a toiling turkey looking for some 'french Gaul`Stones to digest the slim pickens since the saudi/ israel spring(?)
Detroit?
Oh wait, you said hot babes until 30 if they eat.
Not Detroit.
Having spent a considerable time in Ukraine myself, and being married to a Ukrainian, I do have some perspective about this. A number of years ago, before Yulia Tymoshenko (later known as the "Gas Princess") was jailed, she was a populist and a reformer with a Western bent. She was (and still is) quite popular with the babushkas and pensioners in Ukraine, as she made sure that they were paid their pensions - and on time. I spoke with a couple of senior citizens in a street corner tent who were actively campaigning for Yulia. They were actually pleasantly shocked that an American knew who Yulia was and what her platform was. They gave me some posters and other political paraphernalia that I still have today, a reminder of those times, when the country seemed to be on a course of openness and true reform. Starting with the Orange Revolution, when Yushenko won the election back in 2004, there was a lot of optimism, hope and promise. Instead the country headed down a path of destruction that has greatly accerated since the election of Yanukovich over Yulia in 2010. Yes, there's no doubt that Yulia is also corrupt, but she was still IMO the best choice from a barrel of bad apples. She was soon thereafter imprisoned on trumped-up charges related to a gas deal with Russia, which only shows how afraid Yanukovich is of her popularity today. There was a show trial with a foregone conclusion, to keep her in jail until after the elections late next year. That was the plan all along, of course.
In this recent development spurning the EU Association Agreement, Yanukovich, ever the pragmatist, went with the only thing that made sense to him, politically and financially. It's as simple as that. He used the EU as a bargaining chip to get concessions from Putin, so in a way, he outfoxed the fox of Russia. There was really no chance that Yulia would get out of jail for any reason - at least not until after next year's elections - she was just the "carrot" used by Yanuk to get the EU to offer a deal, which he could use to extort more concessions from Russia. Since the first thing that would happen if Yulia was elected President would be to jail Yanuk and his cronies, why did anyone think there would be a different outcome? He's not stupid, he just played the EU for patsies. Meanwhile, Putin, during the secret meetings in the past couple of weeks, no doubt made Yanuk an offer he couldn't refuse - lower gas prices and more trade, and possibly even a bailout. This must/will happen in time for the election season next year, which will placate the Ukrainian people (he hopes) just long enough to help him keep his job in April 2015.
There was no idealogical decision here (east vs. west), it was a non-starter as soon as the EU demanded that Yulia be let out of prison before any deal could be signed in Vilnius. So now, Plan "B" for the EU comes i the form of Vitaly Klitschko, the WBC Heavyweight champion, who has his own political party (Ukrainian Democratic Alliance for Reform - UDAR, the acronym means "Punch" or "Strike"). He wants to run for the presidency next year, but the VR (Verkhovna Rada, or Parliament) is very busy right now trying to pass laws to disqualify him before he even has the chance to run - IOW, they're passing a law targeted directly at him that says "if you have a foreign passport or residency, you can't run for president" (N.B.:Klitschko has German residency). It remains to be seen how this will all play out in the not-too-distant future. As of right now, there are protests against the signing of the Russian customs union agreement in Kyiv, which will accelerate this weekend. The government is attempting to prevent the protest by banning setting up tents in Maidan Nezalezhnosti (Independence Square), but I don't know if they can stop the protests. Riot police have been put on standby, and anything could happen - but I expect nothing will change at this time. People in Ukraine are fatigued with the entire process, having been extremely disappointed in the Orange Revolution - it's harder now to get them to rally behind change. I can't say that I blame them.
No matter how you look at this whole affair, it's a loss for the long-suffering Ukrainian people. Having spent a lot of time over there, I am impressed with their resiliency, optimism, and kindness. I wish the best for them and hope someday they will get a government that looks out for their interests, just as I hope the same for us.
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I can't believe all of the Putin worship here, by small minded people without a clue. He is a despot. I also would be surprised if he is still alive six months from now. He is holding up the schedule, and for that, there is no forgiveness.
Wow, you really ARE obsolete, man
Why do you consider me obsolete? Because I think for myself? I refuse to get suckered into choosing between the lesser of two evils anymore {the western leaders vs. Putin}. Did that for too many years already. The Russians and the Chinese are eating the west' lunch right now on the geo-political stage, but that is what happens when a community organizer tries to match wits against a KGB colonel.
who's making you choose? Ukraine chose.
It's not like there's a plan B / 3rd choice. That ONE choice was THE situation.
Who is protecting innocent Christians and Syrians from being murdered by Al Qeada in Syria? Assad, the Syrian Army and Putin plus the Russian Navy. Who is funding the murder of Christians - Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, Israel, USA - McCain, Graham, Obama, Rubio, Schumer, Flake and a few other Dem and RINO AIPAC stooges.
Who gave Edward Snowden sanctuary?
Putin is no saint but compared to the scum in Washington DC, Wall Street, Brussells, London, Saudi Arabia, Paris - he is light years better. Putin is not spying on you.
The USA sold out eastern Europe, the Ukraine, Baltic Countries to Russia and the Balkans to Islam (Clinton). Go F Yourself.
Thumbs up. Git em, freddie. The snowden thing by itself is amazing. we underwent an instant shift knowing now we are all being spied on. don't think most of the population has really processed that yet. a couple of dozen snowdens in the right spots could change everything despite the best laid plans of the globalists. i'm still betting our system is going to self correct, without a crash or revolt. the snakeheads seem to think that by buying time, they can figure out how to get the project back on track. i'm not so sure.
your moniker is apt
they're all back-stabbing despots but Putin is the one avoiding a world-war to get his way instead of starting one like Obama, Europe, Saudi Arabia.
5 years ago I said watch which way Ukraine goes in the inevitable need to choose between Russia or Europe. This is a devastating indictment of the relatve fortunes of the 2. Congrats Ukraine, you chose well.
And congratulations Mr. Putin, you win. Again.
This is realpolitik at work.
Europe has no backbone and the US has turned inward. Russia asserts itself and hastens to fill the vacuum as the US withdraws from leadership. Ukraine doesn't like Russia but knows who is boss.
You act like the Ukranian people had a voice in the matter. Russia is not "the boss", it's just that the leadership in the Ukraine sold the people out for thirty pieces of silver. Simple as that.
I own two appartments and garage on Bulgarian coastline.
The rest of the building is owned by Rusian people.
Good,nice, trustworthy and hard working people.
Most of them hate mr P the same way you hate
mr O.Coincedence?