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The recent shutdown sheds light on what agencies we really find important.
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I noticed no difference.
Leave it shut down, expand the shutdown.
We might see this the end of January.
Shut it all down and let it die, we'll be better for it.
I agree with giving Homeland Security the day off.
Okay, this I find very humorous.
Author sounds tarded. Very tarded.
I'm gonna go upstairs, brush my teeth and cry for a while.
Close down the secret service. :)
That's a lot of dead wood there. If we ever need to save money...that's a lot to work with.
damn straight^
I'd like to see a "lottery" for federal workers ...
Every month for a year the president pulls out of a hat (fishbowl , whatever) two slips of paper with numbers from 00 through 99... if that number matches the last 2 digits of your SSN you are fired immediately and without recourse.... the terminated employee gets a full year of pay and as we all know Federal Employees are the absolute smartest and best workers on the planet they should have no problems adjusting to the real world.
This should have an immediate demoralizing effect and therefore we get an added bonus of reduced output (read as "new regulations")
When they start to complain then we cut departments starting with energy , education and the EPA.
When Praetorians are necessary, to provide for the safety of the "leaders"...they are doing it wrong.
I can cheer you up, Knukles. Arne Duncan, the head of Dept of Education, said that the best thing that happened to public schools in New Orleans was Hurricane Katrina. Now if he can just borrow Bush's hurricane machine he can fix the public schools in the rest of the country! Something to look forward to IMO.
Public schools aren't teaching our kids anything they need to learn, anyway.
Their only function is babysitting and govt jobs.
I think it's because this isn't pointing out why a shutdown was ok, or generally wasn't felt by most, it's attempting to show why a shutdown was bad and that it shouldn't happen again...i.e. pro-nanny state propaganda.
In reality not much of the govt was shut down, but the administration attempted to make people think that there was a lot that was closed in an attempt to pull pressure from constituents toward their representatives to agree to the administration's demands.
It's all hokum IMO, I would bet that there's so much duplication and overlap in jobs and that no one has ever done an audit of what people do and whether there are significant redundancies in the system. It's bloated beyond belief, it can't account for what it spends and can't produce a budget. Any business that was run in the manner of this govt would fail miserably....and fast.
As harmful as they are, all of them should pay to work their jobs.
You could close half these departments and not only would you not notice, your life would be better. Ron Paul for president
You are presidential material John G:
"Let's shut down the government and see if anyone notices."
Ronald Reagan
Thank you.
All I ask is to be fired at the end of my first and only term.
You would be 'fired at' during your swearing-in ceremony.
Probably (shot) but thank you for your support.
And then he ran for a 2nd term and borrowed and spent money like a drug addict. Ronnie talked a good game, but he still ensured the system of socialism for the wealthy and dog-eat-dog capitalism for the serfs remained intact. In fact, he took it to new heights.
Yes, and allowed huge bank and corporate mergers
Speaketh ye ill of King Ronnie and ye shall be smitten with the dread down red arrow.
Bedtime for Bonzo was his finest hour (actually 1:23 run-time).
Reagan's deficit spending had a purpose - end the cold war - and it worked.
He/they then devised a long-term deficit reduction plan that brought the US back to a balanced annual budget... and this plan was dutifully upheld by Bush & Clinton (to their credit) thus the balanced/surplus fed. budget levels that were achieved mid-way through Clinton's administration.
You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts...
RR had to work with a bunch of dimmicraps in congress.
(Sound of munching popcorn)
So, I was wrong, we really don't need two thirds of it.
Years ago a libertarian writer suggested a federal agency that would parasitize the parasites.
It would cost-benefit analyze departments and programs, ending those not working, and receive a percentage of the money saved for its own budget.
David Friedman wrote about that, is this whom you are speaking of?
It would quickly become the entire government and get paid for doing absolutely nothing. We'd be in exactly the same place.
We must have the DHS......otherwise we wouldn't have it! Which is the underlying driving belief of the existence of anything central government since time began.
hahaha
Why is there a "military" category under the EPA? Are they going to shoot pollutoin?
Polluters. You and me.
USPS being self-funded is a bit like the military being self-funded. Neither one was begun with the idea of making a profit or being self sustaining. The military demolishes structures and the USPS destroys packages.
Since the .gov only really "works" for the 0.1% I say shut down 99.9% of it.
The only important government agency has yet to be created: "The Department of Smaller and More Efficient Government."
Why, that would generate a surplus, that needs to refunded to the taxpayer who has over paid for "services" rendered.
They will never allow that ;-)
In other words, JohnG:
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/guest-post-end-history
World War III ...The first private war in history
Those who won all battles shall lose the war
http://eamb-ydrohoos.blogspot.gr/2012/02/world-war-iii.html
Shut them all down except for first stike retaliation and put Ron Paul in as President to figure it out. Don't need any of them to much as long as everyone has a gun.
To protect oneself from now unemployed government workers. You'll know who the ones who "work" for HUD are since they'll be holding their glocks sideways.
Postal Service - A self-funded* agency.
*Imminent bankruptcy due to forward sales of future services in present quarters, and other reasons, not included.
I got a great chukcle at the "Forever Stamps."
Short sell your own services, yeah, great thinking geniuses.
One of the biggest benefits of the forever stamps is the elimination of the need for the one cent make up stamps. Find an old-time window clerk and ask her if she misses the people coming in for a one cent stamp. The only other person I know of who doesn't like the forever stamps is John McCain.
Correct. The labor savings alone offsets the "loss" of revenues. The gob of stamps on the envelopes with the make-up rates also confused and clogged the facer/canceler machinery, requiring hand-processing of zillions of envelopes.
"...requiring hand-processing of zillions of envelopes."
Source?
My extensive research on this very subject confirms that the precise number was actually "bajillions."
Here's my SOURCE. You could be correct in your count as I'm often off by a few zeroes.
I KNOW THE THUGS AT THE I.R.S. WERE SENT HOME.
...with pay.
The Belgium government once shut down for a year.When the politicians realized that the people really didn't care and things seemed to function in the country as normal TPTB started up the machine real quick before everyone said "we don't need you".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dGoKgSknuk
I see security mentioned quite often as not having been affected. Who's security is the question!
"The recent shutdown sheds light on what agencies we really find important."
We?
I think he meant the "royal we".
Aid workers in the field,U.S.Information Agency,lots of these charitable NGO's and journalists are filthy with the SPOOKS of CIA and MI5 etc.This puts at risk the legitimate workers,who depend on their status as neutrals.
My eyes were opened to this when I read that the aircraft in the U2 incident was a NOAA cover.NOAA is the forerunner for NASA.Ergo,NASA is at least partially an arm of the CIA and has been all these years.
The funny/tragic/ironic part of the story is that because the a/c burned a highly distilled form of kerosene ($300/gal),and the altitude flown,the engine was prone to flameouts.One aircraft radioed that he was ejecting,and he pushed the auto-destruct timer (30 seconds or 0 seconds?) and his transmission ended instantly.The pilots started grumbling amongst themselves,"Psst,don't hit the button!".I have often wondered if the auto-destruct unit was contracted to a CIA front operation.I mean it was all Cold War stuff,fifty years ago,but still....
And then there is the KAL007 operation but I won't bore you with that here.Still,using civilians as Spooks without their knowledge?
NOAA and NASA share a lot of each other's satellites. The remote sensing community is comparatively small and very incestuous. If you get into remote sensing in university, you'll probably later know many people at the NRO, NGIA as well, along with UKUSA-AU-NZ spooks.
Paid vacations.
DemocRATS, RepibliCUNTS, we're going to shut .gov down, we're going do it! I'm warning you.
FUCK YOU!
Over.
I didn't see any posi8teve effect, as their still stealing and killing.
I submitted a FBI request for a clean crime background and it was performed maybe a day over normal....
Not sure if they were cut back or not...
I guess as long as they leave the server on....
If you want a revolution consider this: Vote for someone other than a Democrat or a Republican.
The people with the guns will always get theirs...
100% of the agencies listed need to be shut down 100% and permanently. NASA, HUD, DOE, DOE, SEC, etc. need to go away forever.
I'm confused. SEC shows everyone working and SEC detail shows 93% furloughed.
SHUT THE DMV DOWN EVERYONE HATES THAT PLACE, WHY DO I NEED A LICENSE /PIECE OF PAPER TO OPERATE MY OWN FUCKING CAR IF ANYONE SHOULD BE HANDING OUT LICENSES TO USE MY OWN FUCKING CAR IT SHOULD BE ME. AND WHY DO I HAVE TO REGISTER MY CAR? WHAT THE FUCK BUSINESS OF YOURS IS IT WHO OWNS MY FUCKING CAR?
AND WHY DO I NEED TO HAVE MY CAR INSPECTED? WTF ARE THEY LOOKING FOR ? THIS IS A VIOLATION OF PRIVACY LAWS.
TAKE DOWN THE DMV.
Here's all you need to know:
http://www.barefootsworld.net/sui_juris/right_to_travel.html
National Security and Alternative Energy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12kXsu35PWA (57:30)
That's becuse the military, Homeland Security, Veteran's Affairs, and Department of Justice are all involved in creating, running, expanding and ensuring the gloabl drug trade! That opium, weed, and coke you just snorted, smoked and shot, helped our country expand the ever-black ops world of what we call today as ..."reality"! This is not a drill, we control the vertical...we control the horizontal...and your wife...watch the spiraling circle.....
We could save a pile of money if we just eliminate all the unconstitutional depts and agencies.