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With 1 Week Left Until November 30 Obama Scrambles To Boost Obamacare Enrollment; Propaganda Enters Overdrive Mode

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With just a week to go until the Obama-promised "all clear" date of November 30, the president is scrambling to boost enrollment in the 11th hour. As reported by Reuters, the administration announced a flurry of fixes to its troubled website on Friday that officials said would soon double its current capacity, a crucial step toward getting the system working by a November 30 deadline. It also pushed back a deadline for people to enroll in insurance plans for 2014 under President Barack Obama's Affordable Care Act in a nod to millions of applicants who have been unable to sign up because of technical glitches for nearly two months. The reason for the push is that consumers need to make decisions on healthcare plans in December if they want insurance in place by January.

The problem as discussed ad nauseam is that with its 500 million lines of code, its accessibility problems and its security concerns, is simply not a viable option in the long or short-run. And yet Obama keeps insisting on band aid fixes only now the president has decided to boost direct enrollment as a workaround would the latest attempt to fix the site crash and burn again.

Jeffrey Zients, the troubleshooter named by Obama to oversee fixes to told reporters on Friday that the website will soon be able to handle 50,000 simultaneous users - twice its current capacity, and up from fewer than 1,000 in the days after its botched launch on Oct 1.


Some of the technical fixes will allow insurance companies to more easily directly enroll consumers in health plans, a senior administration official said.


The administration will run a pilot program for direct enrollment in three states with large numbers of uninsured people - Texas, Florida and Ohio - and use the results to expand the availability of the "direct enrollment" option.


"We do believe that it's substantial. We're looking at hundreds of thousands of people who we believe may well opt to do this," the official told Reuters.

In the meanwhile the first delay to the rollout was announced: it will, however, hardly have a meaningful impact:

People needing health insurance by January 1, 2014 will have eight extra days to sign up, officials said. The original deadline for year-end coverage was December 15, but now will be moved to December 23.

More importantly, the administration has also decided to push back the deadline for the second yearof enrollment, which just happens to fall at a critical time - just after the midterm elections which also means Americans will not know how high premiums surge as a result of Obamacare until after the election.

With the first enrollment period barely off the ground, the Obama administration also has decided to delay enrollment for the second year of the program to give insurance companies more time to calculate rates, White House spokesman Jay Carney told reporters.


The delay will mean consumers will start shopping for insurance for Year Two of Obamacare on November 15, 2014 - more than a week after voters go to the polls for midterm elections, when congressional Democrats are expected to face tough questions about the policy they supported.


"That means that if premiums go through the roof in the first year of Obamacare, no one will know about it until after the election," said Republican Senator Charles Grassley of Iowa. But Carney rejected any assertion that politics was behind the extension.

"The fact is, we're doing it because it make sense for insurers to have as clear a sense of the pool of consumers they gain in the market this year, before setting rates for next year," Carney said.

And as usual, the White House is convinced it can just lie and just keep getting away with it thanks to a press that is infatuated with a president who until recently could, in the eyes of the "independent" media, walk on water but no more.

Elsewhere, in an attempt to artificially boost excitement in a program that has gone from Obama's crowning achievement to his most abysmal failure, the WaPo reports that there has been a surge in enrollment after the abysmal results from the first enrollment month:

After anemic enrollment in the federal health insurance marketplace, several states running their own online exchanges are reporting a rapid increase in the number of people signing up for coverage, a trend officials say is encouraging for President Obama’s health-care law.


By mid-November, the 14 state-based marketplaces reported data showing enrollment has nearly doubled from last month, jumping to about 150,000 from 79,000, according to state and federal statistics. The nonprofit Commonwealth Fund, which has been tracking the data, called the most recent numbers “a November enrollment surge.


The latest figures from the state-run exchanges, combined with totals on the federal exchange, bring the national number to at least 176,000.

One wonders how much of the "surge" is due to the change in crtieria to just needing to have Obamacare in one's checkout cart. Either way, even if one believes the propaganda, and it is unclear why anyone would after the endless barrage of lies in the past 5 years, "while the pace of enrollments increased this month, sign-ups are still well below early projections."

A far bigger problem beyond simple propaganda is that once again just like with jobs, it is a quality not quantity issue something which central-planning regimes everywhere are unable to grasp - as reported before, if only older, treatment "troubled" individuals sign up and younger Americans skip the healthcare experiment, the outcome would be even worse than if Obamacare had not been unleashed as the Ponzi Scheme (by definition) is critically reliant on younger payors who don't extract more from the system than they put in, at least not early on. Then again, what is central-planning without propaganda:

Some of the state exchanges are seeing the pace of enrollment pick up daily. California has been out in front; the state’s enrollments have grown steadily in November and now account for nearly half of all health law sign-ups. The state has had its strongest two weeks of enrollment this month.


“We’re seeing much larger numbers than we expected,” Covered California Executive Director Peter Lee told reporters this week.

Sure you are. Because since actions still speak louder than propaganda, we can only assume that the resignation of the official charged with launching Hawaii's troubled ObamaCare insurance exchange will resign next month, according to multiple reports. From The Hill:

Coral Andrews, the executive director of Hawaii Health Connector, is the first marketplace director to leave her post since Oct. 1, when the exchanges launched.  The Hawaii Health Connector went live on Oct. 15 due to software problems and had only enrolled 257 people in its first month of operation, according to the Honolulu Star Advertiser.


Andrews will reportedly depart on Dec. 6 and be replaced on an interim basis by Tom Matsuda, who headed up ObamaCare's implementation in the state. "I am honored to have been a part of implementing part of the Affordable Care Act for the people of Hawaii,” Andrews said in a statement.

Expect increasingly more resignations as the Obamacare "surge" continues.


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Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:16 | 4183493 RSloane
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This is an exciting development! More people will get through to find out they can't afford much faster! Progress.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:24 | 4183505 TeamDepends
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Can't wait to watch the Demorats fleeing the sinking progressive ship!!!!

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:28 | 4183509 ACP
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Pfah! If it ain't working now, it sure the hell won't be fixed over Thanksgiving.

Dishes are done, man.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:31 | 4183516 kushmere
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Loved that movie when I was younger.


Brand New Post!

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:00 | 4183556 Stuart
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Because it is a flagship program of Obamas' administration and it is going terribly wrong, expect everything about it, including a miraculous jump in enrollment..much like employment rates, now to be lied about in the most blatant and egregious manner possible.   Just like blatant manipulation in the paper traded gold market, they don't care anymore about being caught.  Stakes are too high.  This is their MO.  FUBAR.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:06 | 4183571 boogerbently
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I have a question for you Constitutionalists. I know I read SOMEWHERE that Congress shall make no law that doesn't apply to them. Does anyone know where that is stated? Articles of Confederation, Constitution, Bill of Rights?

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:08 | 4183578 JLee2027
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None. Proposed amendment only.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 15:22 | 4183776 Skateboarder
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WOW! Fifty thousand people on the same website at the same time!? I didn't think we would get there until 2030. I'm sure glad the gubbamin cutting edge technology is the best in class.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 16:41 | 4183892 johnQpublic
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aFFordable for whom exactly?

the insurance companies?

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:09 | 4183581 Son of Loki
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"If you want to keep your health insurance, you can keep your health insurance."


So why does my insurance Agent roar laughing every time I call asking them not to cancel my policy, just as Barry promised?

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:26 | 4183604 Sam Clemons
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I have a question for all military on the constitution.  "against all enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC."  What does that mean to you?  As long as the paycheck comes, you protect the DOMESTIC criminals?

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:40 | 4183631 Uncle Remus
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It means you probably don't have enough ammo.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:46 | 4183648 Sam Clemons
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I'm going old school - crossbow.  Unlimited ammo.

Sun, 11/24/2013 - 10:28 | 4185282 TBT or not TBT
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Bolts break and must be replaced....

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 19:18 | 4184146 XitSam
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Good question, Sam.  Does anyone, after over 220 years believe that the government can self-regulate?  Separation of powers?  When all branches agree to expand government?  When the courts are nominated and paid by the other two branches? When the military and its industrial complex depends on continual war?

Sun, 11/24/2013 - 02:25 | 4184941 buyingsterling
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AZ rep. Shadeggg's bill requiring congress to live under the laws it passes was adopted and became law during the 'contract with America' congress. Now congress just ignores it.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:07 | 4183575 JLee2027
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I expect the website will work and trumpets will sound. However, the data captured is crap, and that, from an IT perspective is the real issue.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:14 | 4183590 I Write Code
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Better yet, when you *get* your policy and you go to the doctor and he still wants cash, and for the first time Mr. Lofo Voter gets to find out what that $6,000 deductible is all about.

Even if Obamabux paid for half your policy, if they won't pay for the services that 90% or more of enrollees need on an annual basis, hey now.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:32 | 4183605 bigkahuna
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Nothing will cover up the body count that we will see resulting from the ACA AKA OBC. It will be affordable heathcare because the dead don't need healthcare.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:46 | 4183647 DosZap
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Nothing will cover up the body count that we will see resulting from the ACA AKA OBC. It will be affordable heathcare because the dead don't need healthcare


Yep,but the dead cannot work to help pay.Only non workers will be able to get it, free.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 16:53 | 4183906 Miffed Microbio...
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Actually, that's a good idea. They just need dead people to sign up to pad the numbers. They certainly won't utilize too much care. Now if there is just a way for Yellen to monetize the premium debt.


Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:44 | 4183642 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1 Stuart.  Yes they have known.  Many of us have known.  There was plenty of warning to those who would listen, even before they passed Obamacare in June, 2012.

And now look, it is even worse than even I had predicted, and I hated this Obamidea and Obamacare before it was cool.

It is worse than ever, a huge threat and problem.

"How's That Obamacare Working Out For You?"

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 15:06 | 4183756 0b1knob
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Obamacare passed in March 2010.   They had over two years to prepare for this.

The Obama voter database get-out-the-vote program identiied every probable Obama voter (black, welfare, single mom etc.) and got most of them to the pols in ONE DAY.  Its all a matter of priorities.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:01 | 4183561 NoDebt
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Stay away from the website, don't sign up, don't even register.  For security reasons alone, I would never go there.  Dropping all your vital stats (including SS number for you and all your family members) into what is likely to be the most hacked website in the history of the world is financial suicide.  

Underwithold on your taxes and tell them to shove this whole system up their ass.

Meanwhile, Medicaid enrollments are going just swimmingly.  Dwarfing the number of people enrolled in the exchanges.  Somehow that website works just fine.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:37 | 4183624 DosZap
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Stay away from the website, don't sign up, don't even register.  For security reasons alone, I would never go there.  Dropping all your vital stats (including SS number for you and all your family members) into what is likely to be the most hacked website in the history of the world is financial suicide.  

You enter your personal info to see the plans ( you cannot afford),so you DO not buy a plan, and you are counted as enrolled.That is great math,there bamster.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:46 | 4183646 DoChenRollingBearing
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Of course you could enter some bogus info...  Garbage in, garbage out!

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 14:33 | 4183712 AlaricBalth
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My cat JEdgar finally was able to enroll after 67 attempts. Poor little guy now has to "substitute" his Fancy Feast for Purina because of his coverage costs.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 14:55 | 4183742 James-Morrison
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Most of the plans listed on (and the state-run exchanges) can be purchased directly from the Issuers (Insurance Company) on their own websites.  

If you have to sign-up, for a rotten Obamacare policy,  I would go directly to the issuer.  I would not put my personal data into the rat's nest known as 

The only caveat: if you qualify for a subsidy, you have to use 

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 14:38 | 4183719 Pure Evil
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Obama's SS # is well known, just use that. Should get you a deep discount. And don't forget to list your home address as Indonesia.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 15:28 | 4183790 0b1knob
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And you birthplace as Kenya.   For a bank account use one from an MF Global account.  Actually there's long been a suspicion that Choomboy stole his SS number from some one else.


Sat, 11/23/2013 - 15:10 | 4183763 A Nanny Moose
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That's exactly what I did. The angle missed on enrollment figures, is the number of people who are "enrolled" yet do not even exist. I know of at least one.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 16:28 | 4183871 John_Coltrane
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For example,

Name: Joe Blow

Address:  Kokomo

Income:  Don't have no Dough

SS#: 1 800 FuckYOU


Sun, 11/24/2013 - 09:34 | 4185216 Savvy
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The 'anonymous shopper' option failed miserably (yah right), you couldn't see the cost unless you submitted all your info and promised your first born, then if you opt out, they know who you are and are informed of impending fines by the IRS. Lovely.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 21:30 | 4184414 Being Free
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That is the answer NoDebt, Mrs. Free and I decided a while ago not to go near the thing.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:28 | 4183512 Surly Bear
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Doubling its capacity from 10 to 20 concurrent users? Hah, what a joke.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:47 | 4183542 Peter Pan
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It's kind of perverse but when will it be realised that low enrolment numbers are actually delaying an economic catastrophe. If Obamacare takes hold consumers are going to have far less to spend and the further growth of big pharma, medical services etc does not produce real GDP.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 14:39 | 4183724 Pure Evil
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Yeah, just how many Benzes can a doctor drive at once. I mean once you've bought one for each family member do you then buy one for the dog and cat?

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 16:46 | 4183900 johnQpublic
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my doctor drives a lambo...benz just aint good enuf

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 16:30 | 4183877 John_Coltrane
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They should have given the contract to PornTube.  They have millions of simultaneous users, and you can pass the time waiting for a page to load by viewing porn.

I'm guessing they don't have 500 million lines of code to run their site.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:32 | 4183517 RSloane
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If I were a hard core no holds barred capitalist that thought up a way to force millions of people to buy a product from the private sector then would I be a progressive?

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:38 | 4183529 TBT or not TBT
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Fascist, but close.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:43 | 4183537 TeamDepends
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First, "progressives" is what they call themselves.  Second, do you really think the people at the top are capitalists?  Not a chance!  They are all of the same mindset as John D. "competition is a sin" Rockefeller.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:52 | 4183550 RSloane
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You mean....surely you don't mean....that Rockefeller didn't compete farily albeit viciously for his millions? Did you know that when it was proposed that a wind farm be built a mile and a half off the coast of Cape Cod the first person to challenge it was Ted Kennedy because it would disturb his view - what eyesight that guy had! The second one was Rockefeller who apparently could see those damn wind farms all the way from West Virginia. I smell a few oligarchs.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:35 | 4183617 Caviar Emptor
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Rocky was a fair-minded guy! Rebates and kickbacks promote fairness in the distribution chain because they spawn more flee-bitten Rocky-clones

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:44 | 4183538 Unstable Condition
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Capitalism by way of Fascism?


Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:01 | 4183563 RSloane
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I prefer to think of it as Cryptocapitaoligafascitotalariaprogressivism.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:43 | 4183639 Uncle Remus
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Clusterfuck. You're talking about a clusterfuck.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 15:22 | 4183777 CuttingEdge
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Corporate Fascism. End Off.

Interesting vid from a couple of years back when Max was on Press TV. Gonzalo misses on his Romney call, but hits the nail on the head with everything else.


Sat, 11/23/2013 - 15:49 | 4183809 RSloane
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Thanks Uncle Remus, I knew it was a word beginning with "C"!

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 17:04 | 4183919 Uncle Remus
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For some reason, ganging a bunch of words together in English doesn't work quite at well as it does in German.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 20:53 | 4184352 Ralph Spoilsport
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Yup. My favorite is the German equivalent of "speed limit" - Geschwindigkeitsbeschränkung. That and earschplittenloudenboomer.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:14 | 4183591 Long-John-Silver
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Can't wait to watch the Democrats fleeing the sinking progressive ship!!!!

You can leave a sinking ship but you can't escape the Sharks. There are too many people bleeding from this disaster to avoid retribution.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 15:54 | 4183816 PubliusTacitus
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That ship should be broadsided, torpedoed and sunk.


With extreme violence.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 15:58 | 4183826 Freddie
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The Democrats, a few RINOs and Obama plus all of TV and Hollywood love ObamaCare!

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:25 | 4183506 Bad Attitude
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Obamacare. Obama phones. Obama bucks.

This is not going to end well.

Forward (over the cliff)!


Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:07 | 4183573 chubbar
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Anyone catch this bullshit that Obama is pulling with eliminating the "anonymous shopper" software on ACA?

Excerpt: ......"

Today, if you want to know what plans you might be eligible for and how much those plans could cost you, you have to go through the sign up process, register for Obamacare, and enter all of your personal information. By the time you find out what plans are available and how much they’ll cost… you’re trapped! Like the poor lady from Washington State who was forced onto Medicare because of this process.

That’s where the Anonymous Shopper feature comes in to save the day!

The Anonymous Shopper feature would have let potential shoppers onto the site to figure out what plans they might be able to get, and about how much it would cost them -- all without actually needing to register or sign up first. The system would let you enter the necessary info anonymously, then estimate for you what plans might be available and about how much they’d cost. Sounds great, right?

It is great…for the consumer. While Chao writes that the function “isn’t needed and thus should be removed,” I believe the reason for its removal is more sinister than that.".......


Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:24 | 4183602 DosZap
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Hilarious, was set to fail from day one, this is ALL A SHOW.ALL SHOW, NO GO, just like REID said.Latest stats, GOLD pkg(and this changes state to state),Prems per person $641.00 per mo,with a 5k dedictible.Latest stats, IF everone that HAS insurance is cancelled and loses their coverages ONLY 1% say they are going to enroll in ACA.


Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:37 | 4183622 ElvisDog
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This is an exciting development! More people will get through to find out they can't afford much faster

Egg-zactly. Obamacare really is just a taxpayer gift to insurance companies. Poor people sign up thinking that it's all good because the government is going to pay the monthly premium. But before those poor people get any benefit they have to pay the $5000-6000 annual deductible. But poor people don't have $5000 to pay for healthcare, so they can't use their insurance. 

So health insurance companies get guarenteed monthly premiums from the taxpayers, and it's pure profit because they won't have to pay out any benefits.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 14:44 | 4183727 Pure Evil
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If only Madoff had thought of this he'd still be sitting fat and happy in his NYC penthouse apartment.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 15:02 | 4183752 Not My Real Name
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Obamacare really is just a taxpayer gift to cronies of Obama, Moochelle, and the DNC.

There. Fixed it for ya.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 16:01 | 4183831 Freddie
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Oh it is even worse than all of this.  "Health care" will be filled with ACORN, SEIU, La Raza unionized govt workers who shuffle a few papers and have golden pensions while you sit there and die.  They will be exempt off course.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:19 | 4183497 OwnSilverPlayMusic
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Fiat currency.  Fiat legislation.  The nazis lost WWII but fascism sure as hell won.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:34 | 4183520 Colonel Klink
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It's because it's the same bad family of actors behind the scenes.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:51 | 4183549 NIHILIST CIPHER

If you truly studied history you would understand that the Nazis did not lose power in WWII, they are far more powerful now, they have been powerful for a very very long time.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:26 | 4183502 Colonel Klink
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Nice that the Executive branch of our government is just making up the law as they go.  Good old Unconstitutional Barry!!!

EDIT:  I forgot to add, GO FUCK YOURSELF OBAMA!!

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:26 | 4183508 RSloane
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Are you kidding? Four days ago Chao told an investigatory committee that 30% to 40% of hasn't even been built yet. They got a hell of a lot done in four days! Forward progess IMO.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:29 | 4183513 Colonel Klink
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No I'm not kidding.  Really he can go fuck himself.  We're all tired of him fucking us.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:35 | 4183521 RSloane
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You surly minx, you!

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:40 | 4183530 Colonel Klink
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Yeah I need some of Labeau's apple strudle and a handy from Sargent Schultz to relax.

Seems my fascist planetitis is acting up.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:04 | 4183568 RSloane
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Good news! I think that's covered under Obamacare.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:39 | 4183630 Colonel Klink
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OK I lol'd.  I'm sure Obama has the handies covered.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:42 | 4183535 W74
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Would rather go fuck myself then the wookie.

Also, I imagine at this point that the Lincoln bedroom is just full of precious Obama tears.  The stench of failure and wookie farts has got to be intense.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 14:45 | 4183731 Pure Evil
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I dunno know about dat.

I heard the Oloser and the Wookie like to take turns playing Dutch Oven.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:11 | 4183586 I Write Code
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No, he actually said it is 30% to 40% done - but the remainder is back office stuff.

He said the web site is actually 100% complete.

There, don't you feel better now?

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:42 | 4183634 Colonel Klink
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The Facade is done but nothing works.  Just like everything else in the Obama administration.  The most TRANSPARENT in his-story.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 14:48 | 4183733 Pure Evil
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His regime is transparent.

Its transparently obvious that his administration is more corrupt than all of the other dictatorships currently in existence worldwide.

He's beginning to make the Mexican drug cartels look saintly.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 16:37 | 4183884 scam_MERS
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Ha! Potemkin website for a Potemkin economy...

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:25 | 4183507 Silversinner
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If everybody whom hates omocare whould log in to

these websites.........24/7 then...........


Sat, 11/23/2013 - 19:39 | 4184205 XitSam
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You're proposing a DDoS attack on a government website. That will be seen as a cyber attack on the US government and you, for inciting the criminal act, will just NDAA disappear. Run. Now.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:28 | 4183511 stant
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the holidays are here. nobodys looking at it .and if they do they wont be shopping much when they see what it cost

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 19:47 | 4184226 XitSam
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"I'm sorry kids, but we couldn't afford Christmas presents this year because I signed us up for Obamacare.  You should be happy that I'm forced to pay for psychiatric care and birth control of other families. Oh, there won't be any Christmas presents next year either. We should thank the Obama picture on the wall for blessing us with so much. We'll light a candle for Kwanza instead of Christmas presents. OK?"

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:34 | 4183522 booboo
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Still talking about the website I see, yea, that's the problem. See, their propaganda IS working.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:35 | 4183523 Dr. Engali
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The focus on the failure of the website for Zerocare takes away from the real issue. Zero is picking and choosing which laws he wants to enforce, and granting extentions where he has no authority. The president's job is to enforce the law of the land, not arbitrarily decide what he will and won't enforce. That's how a banana republic is run. The fact that more people aren't concerned about this drives me insane.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:42 | 4183536 RSloane
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I have accepted our banana status long ago, and most of the world now sees us for who we are. Its pretty bad when one of our Western allies has to fly helicopters over the US embassy on their soil to jam frequencies to prevent NSA spying. Of course no one anywhere knew anything about this except Snowden so we lost apparently the only person in the US who knew anything about it.

Obama can pretty much do whatever the hell he wants - being found out only is a minor pause in our MSM's adoration of him.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:56 | 4183544 Dr. Engali
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When this is all said and done Sloane I want to see people from the MSM swinging from bridges even more than the bankers. There is a reason why the freedom of the press was the first amendment to the constitution, and these presitutes are foregoing their responsibilities and stepping all over it.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:05 | 4183569 RSloane
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I would not deface our infrastructure with their presence. A garbage dump run would suffice.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:10 | 4183583 Blues Traveler
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Dr.  Engali, spot on my man!  It would be an extreme pleasure to hang the media, they drew first blood early on by not exposing the Jinn and coninue their treason  by the day covering up his actions. In fact, the Jinn didnt change, he has always been the same wretched man.  The media changed.


Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:24 | 4183599 Things that go bump
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All independent media were gobbled up by large conglomerates some time ago. The MSM is no longer independent and their "freedom" of the press is what their owners say it is. They do what the ones who sign their paycheck tell them to do, just like everybody else. 

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:35 | 4183524 Make_Mine_A_Double
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As usual the MSM corporate/fascist press wants the sheepistanis to focus on the Fisher-Price website plumbing issues which are hilarious, but it's pure sideshow theatre.

The tidal wave is going to be the effect on the larger economy once the layoffs and big time consumer spending decreases kick in. We may see abit of it knocking down already shit Xmas sales, but going forward combined with across the board inflation it is going to be ugly.  

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:36 | 4183526 maskone909
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I will take your mother out for a nice seafood dinner, and never call her again. After that i will enroll her in obummer care.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:37 | 4183528 W74
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Quantity of Propaganda is not the same as Quality.   The funny thing about Propaganda is that it can have a negative effect (which can errase many cumulative positives) too.  Every 37f knows this.  There's no such thing as throwing ads out there hoping to sell a product as if every flier, poster, television address or radio spot either sells your schtick or it doesn't.  If you piss people off, not only do you not win them over (buying the schtick) but they might actually rebel and start attacking you.

The White House should hire me to be on it's propaganda team.  I charge fairly fair rates.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:41 | 4183533 CuttingEdge
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Obamugabi must be smoking better shit than I can grow if he imagines ACA isn't going to be the political death of him at the mid-terms.

Not that the sociopathic cunt gives a flying fuck.

So 2 years of a lame-duck incumbent, followed by the FSA rallying to elect Clitnot.

Or maybe, since he's done a Stalin with the Armed Forces, it will be martial law by then...who would argue with 2 billion hollow-points?

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:45 | 4183540 Colonel Klink
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"Who would argue with 2 billion hollow points?"

The other 10 billion owned by the gun toting rednecks of America.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:50 | 4183546 CuttingEdge
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Messy. He'd probably be back on a plane to Nairobi before that came to pass.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:53 | 4183553 stant
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I like being a gun toten redneck.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:36 | 4183619 sunnyside
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My guns and downloaded porn collection are my greatest treasures.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 17:06 | 4183921 John_Coltrane
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Total US armed Forces:  1.5 M

NRA membership:   4.5M

And, of course, these memberships overlap-and guess where the loyalty lies.  Considering the majority of armed service members rarely fire a gun, we've got them outnumbered and are likely better trained.  (Hunting is excellent sniper training)

And, of course over 70M gun owners.  That 2B hollow points in the hands of incompetent fools doesn't impress me.  Remember Randy Weaver held off an entire SWAT squad for days, killing several of these "trained" snipers (O.K-he was an ex-green beret).  His son killed the sniper that shot his dog using a simple hunting rifle with a single shot.

And of course, the Vietnamses routed the US Army at its peak using guerilla tactics.  That's what they are up against.  Any wonder restricting firearms is at the top of their wish list?

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:10 | 4183576 NIHILIST CIPHER

I will probably get down arrowed to hell and back for posing this query, but what if they pull the old switch-a-roo and declare it free for everyone? Free coverage for all citizens just like the FSA is afforded. It's mostly going medicaid anyway. Then get ready for the tax hikes to cover this giant turd in the punch bowl. After the crash that is on the way housing will ba added due to armies of homeless and then they will have the collectivist state of which they dream. Now fire away with the arrows.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:30 | 4183611 Make_Mine_A_Double
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I suspect it'll probably come to it once the Feds and Blue states have fucked the enrollment all to hell.

I have some small contact with FSA apes. The idea that 99% (much like Emporer Bokassa) could put on velcro shoes or whip their asses without a government sponsored TVee commercial is laughable.

Expecting these tards to go into a fairly detailed website requiring and performing a mental task comparable to doing your taxes is nonsensical - and that is assuming a website that actually functions in the first place.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:39 | 4183628 sunnyside
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Do it, and we would have a two tier health system the next day.  My Doc would take cash only patients.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:55 | 4183667 NIHILIST CIPHER

Definition of SINGLE PAYOR- Payment for healthcare services can ONLY BE PAID BY THE GUBBERMINT, no other person/entity can pay the doctors/healthcare facility.....period. That rule of law will be strictly enforced as you will have a personal identity card by then issued by dear leader.


Sat, 11/23/2013 - 14:53 | 4183741 Winston Churchill
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Doesn't work that way in the UK or Canada etc etc.

Private healthcare runs alongside single payer at about 1/10 of the cost here in the US.

Its the cost here thats the problem, which Obozocare does nothing about,just shifts

it around,or tries.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 15:07 | 4183757 NIHILIST CIPHER

WC           Then why have legions of Canadians been down here in the US writing checks for 100K for heart bypass operations for the last couple decades? That fact blows holes in your statement. 

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:57 | 4183668 JR
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Harry Reid: "Obamacare is just Phase I of single-payer insurance" = taxpayer provided insurance = socialized medicine = Leninism.

Vladimir Lenin: "Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the Socialist State."

IOW, the "free" in "free-for-everyone" healthcare is subtracted from individual freedom.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 14:09 | 4183682 NIHILIST CIPHER

JR            You get a A+ and a gold star on your report today. Thank you for the input..........critical thinking wins again.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:08 | 4183580 chemystical
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on the other hand, you still have demographics to contend with, and as much as Romney is a putz, he characterized that quite well. 

at that point your best hope is that the free shit army is too apathetic to turn out (considering that this time they'd be voting for Dear Leader Jr and not the genuine article)

your best hope will turn out to be no hope anyways...because then your 'good cop' gets elected.

everyone who bitches about issue A, B, C....ZZ in the usa but still pulls a lever for someone with either a (d) or an (r) behind their the real problem.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:35 | 4183618 Things that go bump
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So many posters here think there are political solutions to our problems. The troubles are systemic and insoluble by traditional means when the entire government is captured. 

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 14:50 | 4183739 Platinum
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I've yet to smoke a strain that will warp my reality to the point where any of the government's "plans" make any sense anymore in any good way.

As soon as I start thinking about what they're really up to, I do some BHO to ease the pain.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:46 | 4183541 carbonmutant
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I like a good pitch as much as anybody but when they start telling me it will add inches I know it's time to sell...

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:48 | 4183543 LawyerScum
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Look at it this way, the big reset will come that much quicker thanks to the idiotic fumblings of our gooberment.  My god, the level of incompetence of our "leaders" never ceases to astound me.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:50 | 4183547 Pig Circus
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50,000 simultaneous users giving Idenity Thieves free access to all their financial information. That's what these dipshits quantify as success.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:54 | 4183552 bankonzhongguo
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You know what people.  Just ignore this mess.

If you get sick, just go to the emergency room.

Give them a fake name, a fake address, say you have no SSN, no prior medical history, etc.

All the illegals do not have to comply with this fascist ordeal.

Yet they get the same (better) treatment than if you playing by the rules.

Do you think people living in the shadows give a fuck?

You and your family are entering a Dark Age. Get used to living in the shadows and working the system.  That is how people survived in China and Russia.

Insurance is NOT care. And even whole families that still manage to earn a respectable living still can't afford these monthly premiums. You have to have the monthly budget to get your tax credit.

You will try to be a good boy, sign up, give them all your data, pay your premiums and when you really need something they will tell you drive 100 miles to get a blood test and wait 6 months to see a doctor - who by the way is not much more informed than an hour of Google searching.  They can't determine anything until they have an MRI and blood work anyway, so why all the panic. Go to the hospital and get all your tests done in one day and get copies of your own labs.  This is all done to give you pills anyway.

Just get your "story" setup in advance.  Just give them the name Barack Obama, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. No SSN. No money to pay anything. Lo seinto muchos.

Your only salvation is exercising and eating smart.  Food is the best medicine.  Get off the anti-depressants and diabetic BS.  THEY want you sick all the time, so you need constant maintenance and you pay them a monthly premium for the privilege of living.  Sicko.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 14:39 | 4183721 dick cheneys ghost
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+10000000 Excellent.............Can I quote you on this?????



Sat, 11/23/2013 - 12:59 | 4183557 Seasmoke
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Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:11 | 4183585 RSloane
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Of course she's free now. Who else would pay a cent for her?

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:12 | 4183588 q99x2
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We know what he is up to. He is a foreign agent of the Central Banks (a token totus) put in place to destroy the United States of America. Actions speak louder than words M'Fers.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:13 | 4183589 harleyjohn45
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It will be interesting to watch all the democrat campaigns spin the healthcare issue and claim they were against it all the time.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:50 | 4183656 Seasmoke
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The fuckers ALL have stopped calling it Obamacare. 

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 16:47 | 4183902 scam_MERS
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Even Leno joked about that on Thursday Night. (in Obie's voice): "No, no, let's call it BidenCare!" So obvious that Zero now wants to distance himself from calling it what it really is - ZeroCare.

Even the jokers like Leno are onto this, the good thing is his audience hears this and remembers it. Guess who is off Zero's Xmas list as of Thursday night?

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:19 | 4183594 QQQBall
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So what are your premiums? Mine is $850 a month with a $6,300 deductible. 

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:45 | 4183644 Seasmoke
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WOW So that's up to $16,000 @year out of your pocket, before they have to pay out one cent. 


Sat, 11/23/2013 - 15:10 | 4183762 Pig Circus
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Better get ill in the month of Jan every year. Imagine getting sick on Xmas. It could end up costing you $13 grand in Dee Ducks during a one week period should your body not be paying attention to the calender.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 18:24 | 4184052 QQQBall
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Yes, I noticed that

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:20 | 4183596 americanspirit
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I think I can predict with confidence that since ObamaCareTsar Jeffery Zients has stupidly announced that the site will be able to "handle" 50,000 simultaneous inquiries on November 30 that it is going to be the target of a million-inquiry denial of service attack on November 30 that will bring it down.

There are probably dozens of people/groups perfectly capable of launching such an attack who also have plenty of motivation to do so. And given the site's inability to handle even a few hundred legitimate inquiries I seriously doubt that they are prepared for a well-crafted DOS attack.

The idiots in charge of the website should have just kept their mouths shut and fixed the damn thing - if they were actually capable of doing so. But no - they have to get out there and spin their little egos for everyone to see. Actions have consequences.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:59 | 4183671 chemystical
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More Obonobo czars:

Auto:  Rattner, then Bloom

Manufacturing: Bloom

TARP: Allison

Border: Bersin

Climate: Stern

Compensation (incl numerous things, like Katrina and TARP): Feinberg  

Domestic Violence: Rosenthal

Drug: Kerlikowske

Economic: Volcker

Ethics: Eisen

Guantanamo Base Closure: Fried

Iran: Ross

Regulatory: Sunstein

WMD: Samore

Weatherization: Sperling

ad fucking nauseum

What's he do?  Walk into one of DC's 61 synagogues, close his eyes, point, and say, "You're next.  Mazel."




Sun, 11/24/2013 - 06:42 | 4185107 Disenchanted
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I'll bet all his fellow Muslims are like WTF!?!?

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:23 | 4183597 q99x2
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Washington D.C. seems to be taken over by a group, through the FED, that intends to use the United States of America to conquer the rest of the world by subduing the IS population Stazi style and then using the military to treaten the rest of the world into submission. The group of globalists have no identity or loyalty to the United States of America and their families likely do not live here. So if a foreign government were to wish to stop this assault against the world they would seek to stop those at the top of the group with whatever technology available. The US populace and Washington D.C. could then return to the rule of law.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 14:02 | 4183673 TPTB_r_TBTF
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lol, D.C.  does not just "seem" to be taken over and this happened long before the Fed was put into place.  I propose, the American Revolution never truly broke the ties between England and the American Colonies.  As soon as the war was over, TPTB in England were conniving to regain control.  Not just England, but the Black Nobility in general.


The US will certainly not "conquer the World".  The US is being set up as a Rogue Nation.  Economic collapse in the US will seal the nation's fate.  Then the MSM around the World will point their fingers at the big bad Rogue Nation and say that strong nations are bad, bad, bad.  The World's Sheeple will agree and subject themselves to the UN.


The UN will run the remnants of the US as a protectorate.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 14:03 | 4183677 chemystical
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"taken over by a group, through the FED"

"no identity or loyalty to the United States of America"

See reply above in thread


Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:29 | 4183610 holdbuysell
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Potential spoiler alert: I went to see Hunger Games last night.

When Katniss shoots her last arrow, the teeny bopper / twenty something crowd spontaneously burst into applause and cheering.

Maybe the US has a chance after all.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:45 | 4183641 TPTB_r_TBTF
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Of course the US has a chance to become like Panem!


I thought that was the whole idea behind the movie:  The US is becoming Panem.

The US already has a wealthy "Capitol" (Hamptons) surrounded by poorer districts.

As soon as the dollar collapses, the poorer districts of the US will be able to pay tribute to the elite class in some other form other than FRNs.


Let the Games begin.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 14:17 | 4183645 NIHILIST CIPHER

Let me guess, she shot the elite asshole that oversees the Hunger Games. If so HOOO-FUCKING-RAH !!!

@holdbuy sell

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:31 | 4183612 sangell
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took 12 minutes to get past the homepage at 11:00am. I established an account by 11:32 but ran into trouble and gave up because they want form from the human resources of my former employer about the health insurance I am able to buy through them now. I gave up! 

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:38 | 4183625 SunRise
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"I am honored to have been a part of implementing part of the Affordable Care Act" - I am disgusted and you feel honored.  The best way to resolve this; since we disagree, is for you to leave my wallet alone and I'll leave your's alone - It is of course my wallet that you are emptying at the point of the blade to fill yours.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:43 | 4183638 Miss Expectations
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The Scheme behind the Obamacare Fraud
Lies smooth the transition to a fundamental transformation of our health-care system.

Fraud can be so brazen it takes people’s breath away. But for a prosecutor tasked with proving a swindle — or what federal law describes as a “scheme to defraud” — the crucial thing is not so much the fraud. It is the scheme.

To be sure, it is the fraud — the individual false statements, sneaky omissions, and deceptive practices — that grabs our attention. As I’ve recounted in this space, President Obama repeatedly and emphatically vowed, “If you like your health-insurance plan, you can keep your health-insurance plan, period.” The incontrovertible record — disclosures by the Obama administration in the Federal Register, representations by the Obama Justice Department in federal court — proves that Obama’s promises were systematically deceitful. The president’s audacity is bracing, and not just because he lies so casually while looking us in the eye. Obama also insults our intelligence.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:52 | 4183661 Duc888
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Just hire Russell Simmons, problem solved.


Obamacare has ALREADY saved MILLIONS of lives!

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 13:54 | 4183666 I am Jobe
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Where the fuck is Edward Bernays? 

Sun, 11/24/2013 - 02:04 | 4184922 CitizenPete
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He works for the Republicans under Karl "goebels" Rove.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 14:06 | 4183678 Miss Expectations
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This video on re-designing a Stop sign is probably what happened to 

(Anybody who's had a boss who doesn't know what they want can probably relate.)

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 14:17 | 4183690 JR
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@ California has been out in front; the state’s enrollments have grown steadily in November and now account for nearly half of all health law sign-ups.

 California is not getting people signing up who are going to be paying the bills, whether or not they are old or young. Standing in line behind the 80,000 signed up already are “about 135,000 additional people who have applied and appear likely to qualify for an expansion of Medi-Cal, the state's Medicaid program for the poor,” the LA Times reported yesterday.

California’s healthcare goals are connected to its huge surge in a welfare population, a Democrat-controlled administration, and illegal immigration pushing heavily on its infrastructure, including hospitals and healthcare clinics. A socialized state is an ideal companion for socialized medicine and the Covered California Exchange reflects these goals.

According to CNBC on November 21 regarding CCE demographics:

“As of Monday, 79,891 people had so far signed up for insurance through the Covered California exchange…”

“Covered California officials said that about 30 percent of the people who had submitted applications for insurance as of Oct. 31 were deemed eligible for subsidies to offset the cost of that coverage because their household incomes fell below 400 percent of the federal poverty level. Another 31 percent were deemed ineligible for subsidies.

“A total of 39 percent of those who submitted applications are possibly eligible for California's Medicaid program, Medi-Cal, which covers lower-income people. California is one of 26 states that is expanding its Medicaid program to cover many people who were previously ineligible due to their low incomes.”,0,378085.story#ixzz2lUUGk

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 14:25 | 4183700 Sathington Willougby
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The whole corporation UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is a fraud.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 14:27 | 4183703 vegas
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I'm to busy looking at naked pics of Kim Kardashian to worry about what President Gobbels is saying or doing.Besides, he'll change his mind 19 times by Tuesday anywaybecause he is the smartest guy in the world and knows everything about everything.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 15:27 | 4183786 sbenard
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President Goebbels! LOL! I must add that to my list of loving sobriquets for Emperor Obama!

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 14:39 | 4183722 Miss Expectations
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Ben Stein on Obama:  Should be charged with criminal fraud (11/23/13)


Sat, 11/23/2013 - 15:19 | 4183770 roadhazard
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The final sign up date has been pushed back to 12/23/14.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 20:26 | 4184299 texas sandman
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That's for individual renewals and intended to hold off rate rape charges from those who are on a large corporate plan, which, with their year delay, haven't seen how horrible their new plans are going to be yet.  


Still on the lookout for how the morons running the Republican party will snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory. 

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 15:26 | 4183784 sbenard
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Calamitycare! The term has never been more apropos!

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 15:44 | 4183805 The Heart
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Someone said that this commi-care site says demonically somewhere below in fine print...if you sign up for can never get out.

Oh gee...lets go into the super hungry lions cage to see if there is anyone kitty kitty kitty.

Sounds synonymous with signing your soul over to the Devil.

ALL breathing biological beings WILL REAP what they sow in the 3-D earth experience. part of the lessons of the soul. Learning about the Law of Cycles, and what goes around, comes around. IE; lay up your treasures well..where they count the the place you the spiritual being having a human experience comes from...and eventually returns to...there is NO escape from this real truth.

Duh...can you your money-god things are belong to the nazi al-cia-duh...who are all puppets for the bullshitvic banksters rottenaquids and rockotics...just ask the nazi glove-puppets "poppy" bush...or maurice hitler strong.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 15:55 | 4183818 PubliusTacitus
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This cocksucker president will literally destroy the country before admitting failure.


He needs to be removed.

Sat, 11/23/2013 - 15:55 | 4183819 f16hoser
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Hey Oprah, your boy is a Lying Piece of Shit! Put that in your Crack-Pipe and smoke it BITCH!

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