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That Mega "Black Friday" Sale? It's Just The End Of The Mega"Pre-Black Friday" Mark Up
"The silliness of it all is that the original price from which the discount is computed is often specious to begin with," sums up the seemingly obvious "retail theater" that plays out every Black Friday in mall after mall across America. As the WSJ reports, the common assumption is that retailers stock up on goods and then mark down the ones that don't sell, taking a hit to their profits. But that isn't typically how it plays out. Instead, big retailers work backward with their suppliers to set starting prices that, after all the markdowns, will yield the profit margins they want. Buyers don't seem to mind. What they are after, especially in such a lackluster economy, is the feeling they got a deal, "I don't even get excited unless its 40% off." The manufactured nature of most discounts raises questions about the wisdom of standing in line for the promotional frenzy that kicks off the holiday shopping season. It also explains how retailers have been able to ramp up the bargains without giving away the store - until now.
Because no one needs a thing this bad...
"A lot of the discount is already priced into the product. That's why you see much more stable margins," said Liz Dunn, an analyst with Macquarie Equities Research.
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The number of deals offered by 31 major department store and apparel retailers increased 63% between 2009 to 2012, and the average discount jumped to 36% from 25%, according to Savings.com, a website that tracks online coupons.
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Stores also field loss leaders, true bargains that pinch profits but are aimed at getting customers into their stores. Most deals, however, are planned to be profitable by setting list prices well above where goods are actually expected to sell.
Retailers could run into legal trouble if they never try to sell goods at their starting price. Otherwise, there's nothing wrong with the practice.
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Penney, which made a disastrous attempt to move away from discounts... But first it has to adjust its prices.
"We must and will compete to win," Mr. Ullman said last week on a conference call with analysts. "That means initially marking up our goods to sufficient levels to protect our margins when the discount or sale is applied."
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Here's how it works, according to one industry consultant describing an actual sweater sold at a major retailer. A supplier sells the sweater to a retailer for roughly $14.50. The suggested retail price is $50, which gives the retailer a roughly 70% markup. A few sweaters sell at that price, but more sell at the first markdown of $44.99, and the bulk sell at the final discount price of $21.99. That produces an average unit retail price of $28 and gives the store about a 45% gross margin on the product.
Retailers didn't always price this way. It used to be that most items were sold at full price, with a limited number of sales to clear unsold inventory. That began to change in the 1970s and 1980s, when a rash of store openings intensified competition and forced retailers to look for new ways to stand out.
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Another tactic involves raising selling prices ahead of the holidays before the discounts kick in. In an analysis for The Wall Street Journal, price-tracking firm Market Track LLC looked at the online price fluctuations of 1,743 products in November 2012. Prices climbed an average of 8% in the weeks leading up to Thanksgiving for 366, or about a fifth, of the products; the items were then discounted on Black Friday. Toys and tools had the biggest pre-Black Friday price increases—about 23%.
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Retailers are supposed to offer items at regular prices "for a reasonably substantial period of time" before marking them down, according to the Federal Trade Commission.
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Retailers, having trained customers to shop for deals, are stuck with the strategy for now. Macy's tried to cut back on coupons in 2007.
"Customers stopped shopping," said Chief Executive Terry Lundgren, "so we knew that was a bad idea."
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Das raciss...
Hey now -- You lured me in with a hot VS model, and then showed me some repugnant fat shoppers. That was painful.
This is news? You mean the shirt that "was" $125.00 for $30.00 was never $125.00.... I'm shocked.
The news is that retailers in desperation have gotten almost as stupid as consumers. You cannot endlessly pull consumption forward -- let's open T-Day! -- at some point you run out. What they've done now is stock cheaper and cheaper stuff with lower and lower margins, margins that they'll only get through this weekend, if that long. Then it is a race to the bottom through Xmas with discounts. What had been some of the biggest shopping weeks of the year become absolute fire-sales. Finally, year-end inventory clearing will be just brutal.
Similar to analogy is QE or Scheme of Ponzi... for some point in time, hit against wall. In AmeriKa, wall is Thanksgiving morning?
Exit questioning... in AmeriKa, is kneel and offer prayer of thanks before go to mall?
The good news for me is that I don't like junk and don't "holiday shop".
But, but, but, then you are deprive self of engage in social custom with fellow citizenry...! You are aberration and must is to learn of compliance to unspoken but pervasive social custom.
A few year ago i went out on a black friday, other then electronics, all the discounted stuff is crap they are trying to unload in the mania. The really high quality items are barely discounted
The only time I bought something on BF was in 2005 when I bought a 120Gb portable (USB) hdd for 40$ (after rebates) - a good price for a few years after.
Every year since then I browsed bfads.net and found nothing worth it ...
Are you see cabbage or kerosene for, how you say, Black Friday deal? Boris is alway to look for good deal on cabbage.
I have never in my adult life gone out Christmas shopping on Black Friday. I have hated crowded stores ever since I was old enough to drive, and years ago, when I first heard Christmas music playing in a store a week or two before Thanksgiving, it struck me as prepping people for shopping, and I was rather disgusted by it.
And you know what kinds of gifts actually make me happy on Christmas? Socks. Underwear. This year, I could use some pants. All the other fun shit that I like just costs too damn much for me to expect anybody to pay for it, unless somebody on here wants to gift me an AR-10 chambered in 7mm-08. But you know what? I'll actually use socks and underwear.
I always had fond memories of Christmas and Christmas Eve though. It used to be a tradition that we would go to my grandparents house on Christmas Eve until they passed, then it was my cousin's house and the whole family would get together. Her ex husband would bring the posole and green chile (even after the divorce,) she'd make the beans and the red chile, there would be piles of cheese and coolers full of beer. She hasn't put one on for the past few years due to two of her children having some very serious medical issues and her being stretched too thin, but those were events that were centered around consuming food and enjoying the family, not consuming cheap Chinese crap.
Know how you feel; I was out a few years ago and am so far out of the TV/Consumer Mass Mind that I didn't even realize it was Black Friday. What a disaster - I turned around and went home.
Remember the Going Out of Business electronics store in the Zohan movie?
"So, you're going out of business?"
"No, no, no. It's just a sign. It's good for business."
Point them away from the teddy display toward the grizzly rack.
Go burn some moar plastic on some shit you dont need - good old American psyche.
Must of been a shiite load of dildos and sex toys on sale at both those stores.
Who in their right mind screams and yells to get at underware?
Since dog fighting is illegal, the next best thing is to go down to the mall on black friday with a thermos of coffee. Find a bench outside a major anchor store and sit there with your camera. It's very entertaining in a "Lord of the Flies" sort of way.
It's tempting, but a friend lives up in the mountains, and I could instead spend Black Friday in front of his wood stove drinking beer and eating elk or the antelope that his son killed this year. Add to that some green chile and posole that I grew, and it's good times.
How does the Nuge run the amplifiers up there? Can't imagine him going unplugged.
I'll do anything to get at underwear if it's on the right woman.
No worries guy and girls
They are only spending YOUR TAX $$$.........I assume this is the 51% doing the Black Friday Run?
Are socialism at it's best
Muppets train well.
Man pay 10 dollar for a 5 dollar item he needs.
Woman pay 5 dollar for a 10 dollar item she doesn't need.
@Rainman
That so true.
I once put a note in my wifes purse when she was going shopping.
It read
Do you really need it?
Can you really afford it?
Will you really wear it?
I got a phone call from the checkout....................She was laughing
Thank God!
@TheFreeLance
You think those in the VID are Goldman's Clients???
It is called Low Balling someone....
It's a mind trick, not the Jedi type mind you.
Oh, this pile of shit was worth 250 bucks!! but you get it for 29.99.....ACT NOW SUPPLIES ARE RUNNING OUT!
SSHHH.
Been doing that for forty years, and I'm not even in retail.
Wonder how many deaths will be attributed to fat stupid shoppers running over each other at late hours trying to buy the one or two good deals available?
Maybe they should let the people riding obesity carts in for an hour first? I would pay to watch that demolition derby....
I can see it now.
Futuristic movie based upon the Running Man theme but with fat stupid obese shoppers riding Lil Rascals and avoiding corporate salespeople trying to murder them and large amounts of consumer retail goods stacked to the ceiling that have the propensity to fall over onto a shopper with enough girth to create their own gravitational field.
It would be called Riding Man, The Obesity Conundrum
Sell that idea to Mike Judge. I'm sure he'll give you executive producer credits.
All one needs to do is bring their smart phone to the store and check prices online before making puchases at retail. The sheeple haven't figured this out yet.
Most 0bamaphone users can't read the user manual to figure out how to do that. They really need the device to text and babble only.
Or walk around and put on airs pretending their "somebody" better than the rest of us because they're talking on a cell phone.
I guess you could call it celebrityism, or the desire to be more popular than you actually are.
I see these clovers all the time in stores or while driving around.
Someone has been reading too much of that there Eric Peters Autos site.
My first thought is, if someone called me, because they were standing in line at the grocery store, does that really warrant them wasting my time?
Consumerism. What an effin joke.
What else is there?
People need something to occupy their time with.
The connedsumer sheeple hordes just disgust me.
Black friday is designed for people with an IQ less than 75
And you can readily identify them, they are the ones in the tents that show up a week before BF and lead the stampedes into the stores at 4am. Actually if you wait until after the holidays, like February, you can buy all the shit they bought on Craigslist, as they sell it off to pay the credit card bill they just got and can't afford because they bought all this shit they didn't need to begin with. Wash, rinse, repeat.
What baffles me is that everyone has internet access and there are countless websites dedicated to cataloging the price of common consumer items over the years... it takes but a moment to see the general price over the last year+ for virtually any item over $20 in a big box store. This is part of the pains of a dying business model, just like main street mom and pop shops died, the big box stores have been one-upped by warehouse e-tailers and direct sales to consumers.
To lesser extent, the mom and pop shops have come back with the niche of being able to repair the stuff you buy at the big-box store or online. The shoe and furniture repair guys in my city always have work.
Get a kit of 5 minute epoxy, the extra large size, WestSystems brand made for building and fixing boats. It stores forever and is freaking ballistic strength. Helps to have some coffee stirring sticks from Starbucks, a box of nitrile gloves, and an el cheapo gram scale to nail the 1:1 ratio.
Hmm, for the furniture or the shoes? :>D
Shoe Goo. Available at....Wal-Mart.
Shhh!, Don't bring up the Bell Curve! If you start looking at distributions of measured IQ's(or components of IQ, or any other measurable thing) by, sex, "race", ethnicity and so on, you will find out all sorts of things that are Wrong and Shocking, such as, the middle of the distribution is different between different sub populations. Also the distribution is wider(longer tails) with some sub populations and narrower with others.
Larry Summers can explain how this is Wrong and Shocking, in the context of pointing out that the distribution of math and spatial reasoning is much wider(longer tails) in male humans vs female ones, which would make you guess that there'd be many times more men than women who are stupider than threshold X of that metric..but also many more men than women who are much smarter than threshold Y in that metric. Which would make sense of the ratio of men to women in mathematics and physics departments at elite universities, without casting ALL women negatively...because the mean is not that different between the two distributions.
This must not be said, and is doubleplusungood. It shall also not be observed that in even in biology or animal husbandry that distributions of any measure(say, femur length) are narrower among XX groups than among XYs. In mammals, but not human mammals. You start thinking that shit, well fuck you! Bad person! Bad!
Looks like a 'Southern European' bank run.
Bitcoin transaction- 147mm.
Somebody wants to shop.
http://investmentwatchblog.com/china-is-quitting-the-us-dollar-and-someo...
raises questions about the wisdom of standing in line for the promotional frenzy. Really?
Just the opposite, it removes all doubt.
The masses want to be suckered in. Just look at Formula 1 racing. Totally silly watching cars driving in circles that are only one big advertising platform. Owned by Bernie Ecclestone, corruption and manipulation abound. Yet millons watch it. In part simply because its on TV. And advertisors will make sure their 'sport' will get coverage.
Yup, like NASCAR. The mindlessness of it makes me numb.
First, comparing nascar to formula one his hilarious... and I say this as a southerner. Second, have you guys ever actually been to a race or gotten behind the wheel? Tends to give a different appreciation for what these guys do...
Of all the bullshit consumer products out there, I'm at a loss for how the upper echelons of racing are remotely near the mentionable part of the spectrum.
You're right.
It's not like Ricky Bobby ever tells me about that fine Sunoco fuel (you know, the one that sells for the price of 87 octane even though it's only 86 octane) or how we should drink Pepsi and enjoy Sun Chips just like the winners.
Nah, there's no consumerism in racing.
I like the plain white car.
Those cars cost more than your house to engineer and build, someone has to pay for it.
Agreed. It looks to me like NASCAR is dying. The producers are very clever in avoiding showing vast swaths of empty seats.
It's all about the cars now and the "racing" is just not there. Like Macho points out, it takes a great deal of skill to compete at that level and at one time provided thrilling entertainment. I do occasionally race off-road (not professionally) and it's a lot of fun. I get teased quite often about how boring NASCAR is now. It *is* boring now and the it's embarassing how many commercials there are. Plus, almost every word that comes out of the commentators' mouths is associated with some sort of sponsor.
Racing and sports in general is just an excuse for Mr. and Mrs. chunga to stop working or doing chores for a few hours, drink beer and shoot the shit. I play one of my guitars, and while she assures me I sound good, she resists the urge to gouge out her ears. I do take requests and she has me working a "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer" composition right now that sounds pretty good coming out of my Stratocaster LOL! (She prefers the acoustic by a mile) We shit-canned the cable TV about 6 months ago and don't miss it one bit. It's all so boring and commercialized now you don't need to watch it AND listen to it. Listening (a little) is good enough...and the 80 fiats/month for cable stays with us.
Black Friday? You couldn't get either of us in a store at gunpoint.
Indycar too and a whole bunch of other series. At least indycar can branch out to brazil, japan, etc... and also has the rolex series race on saturday for many of the race weekends... nascar on the other hand... good luck competing with F1 across the world...
I've noticed for quite a while all the vacancies in the stands... I think nascar was on the brink a couple years ago, but got a second wind and now is waning again.
NASCAR stopped being good entertainment once political correctness took over. Can't have anything called the Winston Cup now, can we? Then they changed the cars. It once was the case that the cars were based on real production cars, and looked like them. Then they got fancy and came out with two-door replica cars running V-8s that were named the same as popular models. I jerked the strings of a salesman once when I wisited a Ford dealership and said I wanted one of those two-door Taurus models with a big V-8. Finally they homogenized all the drivers so almost none of them are the least bit interesting. NASCAR might as well broadcast a video game played on an Xbox.
Same thing is happening to the NFL. All the rules changes are trending toward making it touch football, not tackle. Why not just have a perenial punt-pass-kick competition and skip the rest?
Then there's Fight Club. Glad there are no silly rules there...
Switch to ice hockey if you want to see a real sport. Almost no commercials or play stoppage. I don't know how anyone stomachs 3.5 hours of commercials and standing around in a 4 hr NFL game. Snore.
Formula 1 is not nascar. Formula one is a winding road where the driver has to be skilled at high speed and slow tight turns, where they almost have to stop to make it. Nascar (and Indy) are the ones where they go round in circles. Snore.
The majority of stops on the indycar tour are road and street courses... i.e. where the drivers turn right sometimes.
A nation out of synch, morally, financially and may i say spiritually as you see fit.. It is over.
Don't need more junk, don't want to stand in any lines, particularly at a mall so I'll just sit it out and watch what goes on via utube.
Go for the trifecta and skip the utube also.
This sounds like a good theme for a new reality series. Mall Survivor or something like that. Oh, wait, South Park just did something on that theme. Forget it.
Whenever I see a sign that says, 40%, 60%, 75% off, I just think to myself, wow, this shitty store was really trying to rip people off big time when it was charging the full price.
Federal Trade Commission will have their top people on this I'm sure, monitoring markups and retail prices.
Just like the Department of Justice will have their top people on the Corzine case, and labor law violations.
Just as soon as the joint team from FTC and DOJ find the Ark of the Covenant...
It's in Warehouse 13, I thought everyone knew that. That is where they hid it after Indiana Jones discovered it.
Sorry to say, the 'joint' team from the FTC and DOJ just came down with a bad case of the munchies and will be unavailable until further notice. Never should have let them go to Colorado for a convention...
Really, are the people who read this site so dense that this is even a discussion?
Then WallMart on the other hand accutally squeazes the producer to get every penny out of them to pass it on to the consumer, and this site wails and lements the horror that is everything wallmart.
Money managers are the most useless and petulaunt little girl sluts. Get a real job.
Given that Wal-mart manages its costs by dumping as many of those costs as possible onto the taxpayer, there's nothing to praise in its economic model.
Name me a company that doesn't? If it isn't cheap labor, then it's retained earnings, foreign accounts, or some other meandering. Further, isn't this simply a business strategy? The companies that pay workers more don't do it out of the kindness of their hearts, rather it is simply a business strategy... they believe that by better retaining employees and creating more "goodwill" they'll pecuniarily benefit... at the end of the day, it's all about the profits.
Well, I suppose theft could be considered a business, in which case it would be a business strategy.
As far as naming a company that doesn't, I could, but they would all be too small for you to know about them. Small business is the only place you'll find honest business in today's America.
In large part due to competition amongst the small businesses and the fact that the yokels know too much about your dirty laundry for you to be too uppity... but once you get big enough to hit escape velocity, you can turn to the rent collection business model.
@big kansas -- Are you fucking retarded? Walmart and the other big boxes pressure producer into moving their jobs to china. They actually threaten to stop doing business with them if they refuse. Is this some great corporate model that benefits anyone but the bonus seeking management team?
Well, the weather storm approaching the mid-Atlantic and Northeast has already given retailers a reason for the soft Black Friday sales. Rinse & repeat, as usual.
"oh, yeah. and you really can blame the weather this time."
That video is like a freaking rock concert! sheesh
Yawn, everything so far doesn't look that cheap.
Marked up, then marked down.
This is the best tjhey can do? What a joke.
Blankety Blank.
"A supplier sells the sweater to a retailer for roughly $14.50. The suggested retail price is $50, which gives the retailer a roughly 70% markup."
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That's not a 70% markup -- it's a "ruffley" [sic] 244% mark-em-up, Suzanne Kapner, you stoopid gash.
[[50-14.50]/14.50]*100 for the mathematically incompetant
I remember the stories of that Black Friday in Strongsville. Victoria's Secret had a few bins of $.99 panties, regular price was $7.99. They also had a $30 bathrobe for $4.99. There were maybe 200 panties in the bins but at least 500 people rushed into the store. Obviously illegal based on any fire code.
The majority of the customers were tweeners looking for fancy thongs to show off when the started sexting later on that day.
When the panties ran out, girls started clawing at each other ripping the panties from others hands. The entire store was destroyed, when the lines showed no sign of moving people just snatched anything they could and ran out of the store. Broken perfume was everywhere, ripped clothes. The store was essentially a total loss and needed to be rebuilt.
If this is what Black Friday does, it should be outlawed.
16-year old poon tang in yoga pants, grabbing for $0.99 colored panties
Now that's a fun time!
The trick is to be there when the girls go wild or the flash mob strikes. In the chaos, just calmly walk out with what ever you want.
1.) Buy panties for 99 cents
2.) Wear said panties for one day
3.) Do not wash panties
4.) Sell worn panties on eBay / Craigslist for $30
5.) ???
6.) PROFIT!!
This is shocking. Obviously the better approach is to buy the $1,000 outfit at high class department store, wear it to fancy party, and return it the next day.
I ordered my wife some earrings - I paid ~~$150 for them -
Right on the receipt they printed -
TOTAL SAVINGS $485!
That's better than getting a lower receiver for an AR from Brownells only to have their $18.95 wholesale price on the box :-(
When you buy an AR lower as a non-dealer you are paying for the serial number that the government requires them to put them on and tax you for. :-)
" Broken perfume was everywhere, ripped clothes. The store was essentially a total loss and needed to be rebuilt."
LOL, turned into red Friday.
The waitng and crowds are not worth the time.
I'm surprised people haven't dropped mase/pepper spray into the crowds yet. It's becoming more violent over time.
I do remember some bf shopper using pepper spray on other bf shoppers to get to the item(s) of interest. So it has happened before...jsyk.
Another tactic that is used but not mentioned is that these retailers have products that are made specifically for these sales. For example, a flat screen TV may look just like another model that sells for much more, but will be built with inferior parts. Most people don't know the difference, but it will have a different model number.
Geiz ist geil.
They say in Germany.
Lol.... Used to work for a large retailer in highschool. Imagine how surprised I was to find out prices were actually raised before a sale. The only things these guys put on sale are things that no one will buy. The sale price is usually the break even cost or at a small loss to get it out of the inventory.
This sums up this and much more, perception is reality. It works in retail, and goes a long way to explain how a 'free society' can look like this one does.
Dumbasses are dumbasses. "Sales" are just another way of manipulating them with bullshit. The Red Team has its bullshit, the Blue Team has its bullshit, the various Dieties have a set of bullshit, advertising is bullshit, spatter-art is bullshit, the "sales" are bullshit.
The smart-n-savvy people manipulate the dumbasses with bullshit and the dumbasses crave the bullshit their brains are designed to believe. It's a win-win for everybody.
You are my favorite commenter these days. Keep it up. PS, what smart/savvy work do you do?
Only idiots think they are saving money when they spend it.
This is a fraud that has perpetuated on the public for decades....especially women. Most women that I know have a harder time distinguishing value vs savings. So they think getting 50% of an already marked up and overvalued item is a great "deal". I know about what I am willing to pay for about anything before I go into any store and if I can't get it for close to that, I pass on it.
The classic example of this is bathing suits. Womens suits cost tons of money, but as I always tell my wife: "there isn't a man alive that would pay that for a bathing suit"...which is why men's bathing suits are more reasonable priced. Now I realize they are not as complicated to make but the point still holds true in that women are more concerned about what they look like in the suits vs men who want a good value. I felt I overpaid for an on sale Nautica brand bathing suit last summer for $14. Same with hair cuts, shoes etc etc etc. It is also why there is usually 1-2 suit stores in each mall but about 100 womens clothing stores....it's a scam and if people knew the markup amount they'd be shocked. Just like with stocks, value is more important than price and being called cheap is a good thing in my mind.
Exactly. I tell my kids. "I can either be cheap, or we can eat ramen for dinner. You choose."
Just like males spending 150 buck / month on sports cable.
Life is about screwing the dumbasses anyway possible to extract the most loot out of them as possible.
That's what Econ 101 teaches. If it wasn't for the assholes competing with each other they'd rape the consumer if they could get away with it. Humans are evil.
Males do that? Which males are you talking about? All I see are tamed females with dicks.
Your Econ 101 class sucked, or you never took it, which is more likely.
Re: Males do that? Which males are you talking about? All I see re tamed females with dicks.
WHAT? Males don't have sports OCD? Females have shopping OCD males have sports OCD. Both get screwed when they buy.
Go team!
You got a point you see guys all the time who spend outragous amounts of money on sports jerseys that are way overpriced. The clear cut winners in that category are Oakland Raiders fans who apparently think every Sunday is Halloween come football season. Forget about the revolution cleaning house we need a comet strike at this point to bleed the stupid out of the system.
I believe that a small percentage of humans are evil. Many appear to be evil or stupid through the MK (mind control) of a tiny minority.
Re: I believe that a small percentage of humans are evil.
Mind control, aka manipulation, is one of the primary ways humans compete tho. So, perhaps you are right that most people, un-manipulated, would not be evil. But, I'd say that: take three of those people and put them together in a group and the most sociopathic one of the three will figure out how to manipulate the other two to gain an advantage.
So, in the real world, humans behave like evil assholes because there are so many of us.
It is cool again to make things for gifts rather than buy them due to the economy.
Take Black Friday and stuff that shit down the throats of the Globalist's Washington D.C. politicians. We're not going to take it anymore.
Like the supermarkets have 'special offers' half price wines. Selling for £5 when they were £10. In reality about 50 to 60% of the time they are on 'special offer' throughout the year and the wine you get... only 20p out of £5 goes on the wine itself anyway! So not even worth the special £5
... trend i've been noticing for the last couple years is that aside from very few items the prices are either same or actually higher during the thanksgiving sales period ...
Black Friday is racist.
African-American Friday?
Better sales tend to be after the holidays anyways when the going out of business sales take place...... I have no doubt there will plenty of bargains in the coming months for those that are patient. This is why I give cash or gift cards unless specifically asked to buy something.
Rule number 1 concerning women and clothes never buy them clothes as gifts. You will always pick the wrong thing and if you don't you will wind up buying something that is the wrong size.......
I had an ex-girlfriend break up with me over buying the wrong sized clothes and the what do you think I am fat b.s. that came afterwards.
Pillaging the malls every Black Friday gives the sheeple of the country a rational to look up from their smart phones for a few hours.
Plus it teaches good lessons about how to compete when SHTF occurs. Those of us who don't participate in the Black Friday madness will be at a distinct disadvantage when that time comes.
"Macy's tried to cut back on coupons in 2007. "Customers stopped shopping," said Chief Executive Terry Lundgren, "so we knew that wasa bad idea."
Funny. Coulda *sworn* you were talking about JCPenney. (some companies never learn)
Bring your food stamps folks - everyone spend spend spend.
What a fucking shit show.
Reminds me of the Vegas trip last year the better half and myself took. We were in a Victoria Secrets store and they had bras on sale. Must have been 20 or more women at the bins, including my wife, fighting for thier size...
Myself and another guy were standing off to the side and I made the comment that there are only 2 bra sizes to worry about;
Big Little ones and Little Big ones!
The place went quiet... and then after a hateful stare from my wife, the women started to laugh!
Last time I had to willingly deal with crowds like that was at the ammo line at a gun show after SH. Hell, I probably was screaming like Nancy Kerigan too to keep my grip on bags of custom load .223, .40 HP, .45 LC, and the 12-gauge 000 buck.
I just hope all the bug-out and bug-in items in my wish list go on sale for 50% off someday. Katadyn Pocket Microfilter, Osprey Xenith 88, Big Agnes Fly Creek 3 tent and a Burley Nomad trailer will run me over $1,200.
<- I came to this page for the boobies
<- I came to this page for the exposé on shady retail practices
What difference, at this point, does it make?
I can't unhear Hillary's shrieking Benghazi fit every time I read those words.
I will only go out on Black Friday when they have a sale on Kerosene, sausage, bisquick, chicken, oh what the hell any normal food item, wool clothing, good boots, dog food, ammo and beer. I am scrapping the bottom of the barrel now and they want me to buy that crap. I just hope silver stays where it is until I get my stupid tax return. I know need to change my withholding. Inch by inch i am breaking free.