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ObamaScare - The Uncomfortable Truths
With delays, glitches, and broken promises plaguing the President's healthcare reform, it is perhaps surprising that the level of coverage among the mainstream media of the SNAFU - and more importantly its potential implications - is not higher. Of course, in each news cycle, Obamacare is mentioned, along with a soundbite of how it will all be fixed soon and it's only the website, but, as the following uncomfortable clip shows, there are notable and far-reaching implications (not the least of which is the progression to a part-time economy that we have so vociferously pointed out - explicitly here and anecdotally here) for Americans and the US economy as a whole.
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Very uncomfortable. http://hedge.ly/1aWnWdO
Where is the move to bring the administration on fraud charges or some other appropriate charge to abolish O'care before it costs us any more $$$ ?
Thete is MORE than adequate proof this bill was passed under false pretenses.
Obamacare Accidently Insures Colorado Man's Dog
How hard can it be?
Obamacare body count is coming soon.
"Where is the move to bring the administration on fraud charges or some other appropriate charge to abolish O'care before it costs us any more $$$ ?"
When the wolf is in charge of the justice system...
The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.
Here, take a cookie. I promise, by the time you're done eating it, you'll feel right as rain.
matrix works as long as bottom half supports it.
government workers (doctors, military, teachers, DMV, politicians, white house, Fed, US treasury, etc.) are taking the red pill and deluding themselves that fantasy > reality. Works for now, but wait 50 years until government workers in China has higher standard of living than ones in America. THEN they will notice, but they will be dead by then.
problem is not the matrix, but the bottom half. the lazy, retarded, unhealthy, irrational, unremarkable, etc.
What are you talking about? Government employees in China are driving Ferraris and Maseratis already.
The 'matrix' was a movie, this BULLSHIT is real.
The 'system' aka GUBMINT employees ( big people ) get the best pension government can give to judges and congressmen.
Only little people ( private workers ) have to purchase 'obamacare'.
The modern USA is more like Blade-Runner, and nothing like Matrix.
Yeh but the matrix was a REAL movie.
You would think survival of the fittest would cause the bottom half to die off. Cleary thats what welfare is for. With out it there would be no bottom half, and therefor no system for them to support.
"It is not the strongest that survive, but those best able to adapt to change" or something like that. While a person may be relatively fit compared to the majority, the group has strength in numbers. The people at the bottom may never thrive, but as a group, they can be very successful at surviving and multiplying.
Can I have some of that kool-aid, too?
The incentive to switch from full to part-time employment is because of the rule defining full-time as 30 hours per week. However, many of the other effects of Obamacare were easy to predict, starting with the massive uncertaintly right after the law was passed. Until the administration wrote the rules, no one knew with any certainty what the future cost of an employee would be. See http://gonzoecon.com/2010/03/the-health-care-bill-disaster-for-the-econo... and http://gonzoecon.com/2010/12/nine-point-eight-are-you-convinced-yet/ from 3.5 years ago. Also http://gonzoecon.com/2013/07/obama-the-job-creator/ for a little humor. (Yes, these are all from my blog.)
massive unconstitutional deployment of Cloward-Piven is designed according to carefully constructed template to do exactly what it is presently accomplishing;the systematic destruction ofpresent sick care in the USSA, the imposition of unsupportable punitive tax implementation to further fund a bankrupt/corrupted government, and a bailout of insurance companies (who by the way wrote and crafted the impossibly complex thicket of impenatrable legalese largely unenforcable gobbledegook) this is all about the money, gratuitously flowing from IRS HHS enforced transference of wealth from the ignorant and helpless plebes to the financial elites. same playbook as the post 2008 bailout of zombie banks only larger, more deadly and even more effectively enslaving citizenry for future generations to come.
We all Know that obamacare is a huge mistake. But how do we stop them. I don't think we can. When you consider what the average intelligence of the average American is. You realize that moral, honest, decent people like ourselves are fucked. Sheeple will just take the huge subsidy and not try to improve themselves or their families. Meanwhile the hardworking honorable person will just be taxed more and more and eventually the system fails and the masses are left with only the government. Obama and Emanual are the most evil mother fuckers ever created. Hopefully the revolution happens sooner rather than later or as I fear never. Fuck you Mr President.
The USA medical system is the fucking joke of the world.
So you have a gubmint ( USA ) ran by Corporations 'fascism', and you let them create the last 'system' to fleece the public, and you thought the outcome would be any different?
Everybody is bitching about deductibles going from $500 to $50k, and annual premiums from $500, to $5,000, but when you let the 'insurance lobby' write the fucking law, ... what do you expect?
Just symptoms of the ROT of the corpse known as 'USA', move along.
Nothing to do with DEM or PUG, both are owed by the AMA, and ABA ( bar lawyers ).
Greedy bastards? Nope, the USA is at the end of the rope, and the system is bitch fucking everyone last of you, while they still can.
The USA medical system has been the envy of rest of the world for years. Sure it's been expensive but everyone gets treated nearly immediately. Could it have used an update. Yes. But Obamacare was never going to work and it's been intentional so we end up getting a single payer system under this Marxist leaning president. Now, any and all new medical innovations will rely on the government's bureaucracy for those decisions. You think it was messed up before, well you haven't seen nothing yet. There will be decisions about life and death that will be out of the patients hands altogether and in the hands of a policy maker in Washington. This is not an American idea and will never be supported by my generation without killing us all off first and I would expect they all know that.
LOL
"There will be decisions about life and death that will be out of the patients hands altogether and in the hands of a policy maker in Washington"
Insurance companies cancel policies. Decisions are taken out of the hands of patients then as well.
The republicans stand with the monopolists and the anti-trust exceptionists, who have the bux for lobbying. There is no free market in medicine. the American people need to wake up to the political gaming by both political parties, at the expense of the people.
"Everybody is bitching about deductibles going from $500 to $50k, and annual premiums from $500, to $5,000, but when you let the 'insurance lobby' write the fucking law, ... what do you expect?"
The government mandated no caps, not the insurance companies. The government mandated a 60 year old man has to buy maternity coverage, not the insurance companies. The government mandated pre-existing illness coverage, not insurance companies.
Reading comprehension failure. The Affordable Healthcare Act was written by lobbyists working for the insurance companies, is the claim being made. I suspect it is true. You really think a couple of congresspeople sat down and wrote it themselves?
The lobbyists wrote the law, but Congress voted to enact the law, so yes, the government deserves the blame here.
Quite simple: Refuse to play (and pay!), tell the Insurance Co.s to piss up a rope!
spot on RC, the masses are ignorant and TPD are fully aware of that fact. and taking full advantage...
"We all Know that obamacare is a huge mistake. But how do we stop them."
Obamacare was not a mistake. It was a deliberate fraud.
The FBI warned congress in 2004, of massive mortgage fraud. Congress didn't care.
Obamacare, the "Gold Standard" of nigger rigged software.
Well played. I can see using that phraseology again.
This used to be an interesting site with thought provoking comments. Now it's been allowed to degenerate into a hangout for hate-filled racists. Sad.
Every time I see people with an 'I <3 Obamacare' sticker on their car I hope they get the worst of this horrible healthcare law. Stupid, arrogant, low-information economically-illiterate supporters/voters.
Anyone driving around with an Obama sticker at this point has to be mentally challenged. And we still have three more years to go of this nonsense.
At this point??? Th Left is the party of, for and by the mentally ill. Too much turkey and booze to go into to it, but I'm sure you all get it. Just leave us the f alone.
Black Americans probably have replacements on hand for when their's wears out or they get a new car. Obama could be deporting them back to Africa and they would still support him
People don't change their religious beliefs very easily.
Yes, the "Church" of leftist's religion is the government. So, let's have some separation of "Church" and "State".
Well, how can you separate the government from the "State"? Since I got off drugs I ain't no philosopher no more, but one can say some worship at the alter of "Big" gub and their sacrament is abortion. Never make it an abortion ddebate, make it a "religious" debate. What was it that a founding father or two meant when they spoke of "Church" that has now gotten God kicked out of the piublic square? Member, man cannot give freedom to another man unless he has the power to enslave man, so that freedom, in the first palce, must have come from some other source, and that is my religion...freedom of all choices for all living creatures. I call Him God. You may call him the spaghetti creature. Other's religion is freedom for no man, and the abolition of some men, while they eat whatever the hell they eat...we call them the leftists.
Please help this cause of relegating the "irreligious left" to the ash bin of american history.
I wonder if the Washington D.C. president sees any opportunity in firing up the Chinese to boost his ratings?
Globalist Clinton, the dude with anomalous dick, scud missled a Pakistani pharmacy at 2am in the morning get a few points in the polls. I would not put it past this globalist that he would nuke Austin to boost his...
So long, Austin. We take off our hats to the memory of Austin, TX, the latest offering to the new world order.
Fundamental change promised and voted for. Fundamental change delivered.
Yes, + 1
The people who voted for Obama carry much of the blame for all of this, whether through ignorance ("Hope and Change is good!") or because they are moochers.
They got what they voted for.
Prepare.
.....another three-year-old child murdered in Afghanistan by a U.S. ObamaBomb. No comment from the Obama gallery.
Every three year old child is at risk from the current administration in one way or another.
Instead of pardoning a turkey, I was hoping that he could pardon some 3rd world children by declaring a moratorium on bombing them for a day.
Apparently that's too much to ask of Mr. Nobel Peace Prize.
that was a white turkey too.......go figger
"The people who voted for Obama carry much of the blame for all of this, whether through ignorance ("Hope and Change is good!") or because they are moochers."
Do you think things would be better if everyone had voted for McCain or Romney? Seriously?
Yes, if only because we would not have Obamacare, and we would not have QE to nearly the extent we do.
I dunno, Romney put the same legislation through in his state and I see nothing in the history of Team Elephant to indicate that they wouldn't suck up to Wall Street as much as the current idiot.
Actually the Democrat controlled legislature in his state pushed and passed that legislation. Romney, as governor, knew he couldn't block it, so worked to make it as practical as he could. He was not the instigator though one might claim he became complicit.
There is another important difference. The legislation was constitutional at the state level, even though unconstitutional nationally (until Justice Rogers plucked the taxation excuse out of the air . . . or somewhere else, despite Obama and the Democrat controlled Congress having claimed it was not a tax).
Neither better nor different. Those other puppets would have less melanin and the same policies.
There is no doubt the crippling effects of Obamacare will reduce discretionary spending and lead to another deep recession. Historically, it has been ridiculous to blame recessions and depressions on a single person or even group of people. That will not be the case this time. Democrats (and those that voted for them) will own this depression and Obama will be universally recognized as the idiot who destroyed the economy and whose face will appear in every history book forward as the weak minded bastard who generations to come will blame.
Fate the Magnificent
"Push the Button, Max"
Nothing a 92 inch NSA surveilled visual narcotic TV from Wal-Mart can't take care of! Consume you fuckin serfs, CONSUME.
You mean the apologist world tour that went on for a week to explain how things are gonna work itself out? It's only being covered in drips now. It should be the only thing on followed by impeachment proceedings and new elections, but fuck that the Dallass Cowbots are on! NBC has a rosy story on our oil reserves! Where's my fuckin flag?
Chief Justice Roberts Flubs President Oath of Office
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_9TLuqvyP8
NSA SPYS ON PORN USE
Who could have guessed?
America's National Security Agency has been accused of spying on the online sexual activity of Bitcoin 'radicals' in order to find ways to discredit them.
The Huffington Post has published a document, leaked by ex-NSA contractor Edward Snowden, which claimed the organisation tracked six unnamed "radicalisers" and their visits to pornographic websites.
It said the alleged electronic surveillance aimed to find their "personal vulnerabilities" to undermine their credibility.
The website published parts of the document, which is dated October 3, 2012, but redacted the names of the six people.
It said none of the six were accused of being involved in terror plots. It added that the NSA believed all those targeted lived outside the US.
"Some of the vulnerabilities, if exposed, would likely call into question a radicaliser's devotion to the jihadist cause, leading to the degradation or loss of his authority," the document read.
When contacted for comment, the NSA referred The Associated Press to a statement from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
"Without discussing specific individuals, it should not be surprising that the US Government uses all of the lawful tools at our disposal to impede the efforts of valid terrorist targets who seek to harm the nation and radicalize others to violence," the statement said.
Lawful tools....
Unconstitutionals tools, all of them!
Fixed it for you.
I hate to say this but you Americans voted for this Obama fellow,
Now it's time to take your medicine.
My only question is when will you stop complaining and start doing something about it.
Diebold votes for us.
+120 million, give or take a few million.
You gonna debate, cocksucker, or just call people names?
what are the choices again?
Neither. It's nappy-nap time and he wants his binky.
Hillbilly? Yes I am. I can feed myself, my family. Defend myself and my family. I was a grunt on active duty in the USMC, and have an engineering degree.
As I recall, I don't buy any produce from either coast, but you effete, socialist queers can't live without our wheat and oil. Who needs whom?
Are you talking about "our QE culture" of tax-plunder, the Nazi social-welfare state, the glorification of the police state and the hatred of anyone who challenges it, bankster bailouts and hyper-nationalistic global military intervention, all carried out in a metro-fascist manner?
fugg'n low-landers...
What is really pathetic are the large majority of fuckin' Dems that still march in lockstep with this craven, pathetic pile of gay Kenyan dog crap... no matter how much destruction he inflicts on our country and Constitution...
Cause they hate America and love the exceptional European socialism that brought us the exceptional likes of Lenin, Stalin, Hiter, Musolini. Control over the people is paramount.
The large majority of fuckin' dems WANTED the fundamental change the deceiver-in-cheif promised, so why wouldn't they be in lockstep? They feel America, it's constitution, it's history, its institutions are fundamentally flawed - liberty and freedom - and have been working for 60+ years to 'fundamentally change' America. They have 'the one' now and will not reject him.
I don't know if most folks have really started focusing on the impact of the tax increases. I knew about them, and knew they would impact us, but never actually looked at hard numbers until this week. We're going to be impacted by the rate hike for capital gains and dividends, the hike in the top tax rate, the phase out of personal exemptions, the phase out of itemized deductions, the .9% medicare surtax, and the 3.8% tax on net investment income. The impact of all of this will be to increase our estimated 2013 federal liability by almost 37% over what we would have paid on the same income under 2012 rules.
Oh, and our company's basic health plan saw an increase in employee premiums of almost 40%, with an increase in deductibles of 50% and an increase in the annual out-of-pocket maximum of about 37%.
Phase out of personal and itemized deductions? Can you offer more info?
see here
https://www.fidelity.com/viewpoints/personal-finance/taxpayers-guide
THE MORE YOU KNOW,
THE WORSE IT GETS!
... Here is a flashback to a video put out in 2009:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcBaSP31Be8
Know the TRUTH about the Government Health Care Bill
Understanding Obamacare requires perceiving that both the events on 9/11/2001, and the financial crises in 2008, were INSIDE JOBS, which were part of a deliberate plan by the international bankers, or globalized ruling classes, to destroy the American Democratic Republic. The people who control the people that control the government of the USA are constantly legalizing more lies, and backing those up with more legalized violence ... We have not seen anything yet, since THE MORE YOU KNOW, THE WORSE IT GETS!I'm not ashamed to game the rigged system as far as I can. I got turned out for good when I saw what O was and what he truly stood for; that was the Treyvon matter.
I saw that he is a race-baiter and will stop at nothing. Henceforth, there was no chance I would treat anything coming from his Admin as anything but a nefarious and malignant lie.
I will play every angle like a Soviet. I have been forced into it and I will be damned if I am going to get dragged down to where I am waiting 4 hours in an ER with a bunch of lungers living in the streets and doing drugs on my nickel.
Thank you. Mr. President.
My entire extended family and I saw our first "HealthCare.gov" public service announcement on TV this afternoon just before sitting down to Thanksgiving dinner. For a split second there was a pause in conversation, but as we all realized what we were watching, every single person in the room burst out laughing at the same time, from ages 9 through 85! (And not a single dish was dropped during the ruckus by the ladies in the kitchen.)
Obamacare has absolutely no street cred whatsoever. What an epic fail for Dear Leader, his Iranian handler, and the rest of his Alinsky trained "progressive" minions.
And in the true, non-crass-commercial, spirit of Thanksgiving, put this is your pipe and smoke it, Choom Boy 'Bama... a bit of history once again read to all at our Thanksgiving table by one of the young men of the family:
George Washington's Thanksgiving Proclamation, 1789:
By the President of the United States of America, a Proclamation.
Whereas it is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor-- and whereas both Houses of Congress have by their joint Committee requested me to recommend to the People of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness.
Now therefore I do recommend and assign Thursday the 26th day of November next to be devoted by the People of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be-- That we may then all unite in rendering unto him our sincere and humble thanks--for his kind care and protection of the People of this Country previous to their becoming a Nation--for the signal and manifold mercies, and the favorable interpositions of his Providence which we experienced in the course and conclusion of the late war--for the great degree of tranquility, union, and plenty, which we have since enjoyed--for the peaceable and rational manner, in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national One now lately instituted--for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed; and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and in general for all the great and various favors which he hath been pleased to confer upon us.
and also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech him to pardon our national and other transgressions-- to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually--to render our national government a blessing to all the people, by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed--to protect and guide all Sovereigns and Nations (especially such as have shewn kindness unto us) and to bless them with good government, peace, and concord--To promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the encrease of science among them and us--and generally to grant unto all Mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best.
Given under my hand at the City of New York the third day of October in the year of our Lord 1789.
Go: Washington
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/ammem/GW/gw004.html
Needless to say, it's not just Obamacare that's an epic fail...
Yes, it is a concern that all the businesses in America are employing part time workers. Maybe if there were actual customers with money coming in there doors it would make a difference. Who needs full time workers when there is no business. There is no business because wages are stagnant for the last forty years and there is NO credit. You can't squeeze blood out of a turnip.
LOL - you just have to laugh, that's all there is...