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Japan Dispatches F-15s, E-767s And P-3 Into China's Air Defense Zone, China Scrambles Su-30 In Response
China's escalation and re-escalation described in detail yesterday, has just been met with a corresponding re-re-escalation by Japan.
- China's Ministry of Defense reports that the nation identified Japanese military planes that entered into Chinese air defense identification zone today.
- 7 batches of 10 Japanese planes consisting of E-767, P-3 and F-15 entered into the zone
- China has also identified 2 batches of 2 U.S. surveillance planes consisting of P-3 and EP-3, without specifying whether the planes entered into the zone
- China scrambled Su-30, J-11 and other aircraft in response.
And now it's China's turn to, once again, respond. And then Japan and the US again, and so on, until someone gets hurt.
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The Chinese need not attack anyone. The Japs will be extinct in 30 years due to effeminate men and Nintendo. The US will go the way of Rome.
Much sooner than that if Fukushima has another earthquake.
It's always more fun when somebody gets their eye poked out
We as Americans need to let Japan know that we've got their backs. If war breaks out, our military needs to intervene swiftly and let China know who's boss. It is absolutely essential that we maintain our military dominance in the world. Our willingness to intervene and stop evil in it's tracks and support our allies is the foundation of global progress, and a failure to act at a critical moment could change the course of history. We need to support our military and put country and world peace ahead of personal satisfaction because that is the only thing that will create a peaceful society in the long term.
Ps. Sorry for teh double post, but this has to be seen.
What Evil should America be stamping out?
Torture of vanquished soldiers? Nations that spy on and kill their own citizens? Nations that spy on other nations and steal their secrets? Nations that use drones to bomb weddings and funerals? Nations that invade other nations without UN consent? Nations that use their economic "power" to destroy other nations? Nations that fund and support terrorists? Nations that supply defective nuclear reactors? Nations that sell weapons to out of control regimes?
Put the flag down asshole, and look in the mirror.
Look, it would be great if we lived in a world free of terrorists where honesty and peace were shared virtues. But unfortunately the real world is a dangerous place, and we as a nation need to do everything we can to gain the upper hand in the battle for our planet's future. If Iran is planning a nuclear strike, we need to know about it. If extreme domestic militias are planning to blow up our Federal Reserve Bank, we need to preempt them. If this means spying and surveillance then so be it. No price is too high for securing the peace and stability of this nation.
you are one frightening motherfucker born patriot - I can only pray that you're kidding
Knock it off you guys, the price of fuel is already off the charts.
This is just a side show. You would know it's for real when gold skyrockets an hour or a minute before. Just watch the price of gold.
So far today it's just a preliminary slightly up day. When it happens for real you will not have time to buy. But if you have been stacking for a while, you can sell some as soon as it gets off the verical line.
Pipe bombs outside U.S. base near Tokyo.
How about we stop being the global police keep our nose out of everyone elses business unless they directly harm us?
Those Ghost Cities and stockpiles of copper, iron etc where all part of the plan.
If this guy isn't a prog plant, I'll eat my hat.
Someone has to just throw the first punch, then we can get this bar fight going. Then lets see how many observers jump in. This could be nothing or full mahem. If I were China I would tell Japan if you fuck with me I am dopping just one bomb on Fukishima reactor #4 and then you can all kiss your ass goodbye.
Some skinny, starving military commander in North Korea will probably get all excited and order a missile launch against Japan or South Korea because of all this stupid shit.
There will never be direct warfare between China and the US. They may create proxy wars to fend off revolution from within and smoke screen the miserable financial situation. At the same time the spoils have already been pre-arranged.
China gets dominance in Africa. The middle east oil states get divided equally and the US gets S. America. Other combinations may work as well.
What is not clear to me is which way Europe is going to go. One thing we know for sure is that the French never won a war in the past and they will never win one in the future.
The islamists will be fighting each other spinning their wheels and going nowhere.
Don't fall victims to macho patriotism or other racial or class divisions by the politicians. Think clearly.
Meanwhile, in Greece despite the misery foisted upon them by the troika, the people still consume their local wine, the ouzo, calamari and feta and still playing backgammon in the main square of the towns. Life keeps going on. And.. the young men can not wait for the next summer to play kamaki with the Skandinavian ladies.
China's goal is of course to dominate the Pacific. Japan, and America's influence there, are significant obstacles. China must first wrench Japan away from America's influence and bring her under China's control. Several possible outcomes here.
1. Obama backs off, due to behind-the-scenes arm-twisting by China (of the economic variety).
2. Japan backs off, owing to the two-fold threat from China to "Sell USD and Buy Yen", crushing USD and Japan's export-based economy in one blow.
3. China backs off, and uses this sequence of events as a stepping stone excuse to ramping up the expansion of their military power. "It wasn't our idea, the West made us do it."
China plays chess, the West plays checkers.
I buy that too.
Or the Chinese makes a mistake and the US Navy eliminates their entire capacity to wage war on the seas in less than 2 hours. This is not threat but a realistic understanding of the PLA Navy assests and what one battel group of the US Navy has the capacity to do right now.
War is economic, my friend. The question you have to ask yourself is "who needs whom more?".
Agreed. Big picture- is China going to be allowed to proceed or will they be stopped. Will we support Japan in principle or in action.
Does Japan need the war more than we do and goes for it?
War or threat thereof would give great cover for Japan to evacuate Tokyo without pissing off their GE overlords (Fuku, of course).
I'll take "US elimates Chinas navy in 2 hours" for $400.
Those chinks don't know what they're getting into.
"China plays chess, the West plays checkers"
So sorry, they're both idiots for fighting over insignificant rock formations jutting out of the water.
But, human beings were never known for being the brightest bulb in the pack.
>> China plays chess, the West plays checkers.
You know, I hear that all the time, but for such cerebral chessmasters, they sure have built a shithole of a country.
There's a reason why every chinaman with money is trying to get the fuck out of there.
China controls N.Korea, don't doubt it. Do a Google check and you will find N.Korea gets about 80% of its goods from China, including fuel, medicine and food. N.Korea wouldn't last a month without China, and is just a great big pawn for China. That pawn is to extract concessions from the USA on Taiwan. China learned from their takeover of HongKong, which gave them all the business contacts throughout the world that the British had farmed for a century. How do you think China got to be such a huge supplier of consumer goods to the world so fast. They had the ready made network of contacts from HongKong. The same thing is true for Taiwan. China will use N.Korea nukes as the bargaining chip. They will instruct N.Korea to ratchet up the heat and then promise to "contain" them for more and more isolation of Taiwan from the West and then eventually abandoned by the West making it an easy takeover by China. It will be Munich 1938 all over again. China's goal is to dominate the SE Pacific, including Australia. This is key along with their push into Africa to secure natural resources, as well as improve relations with Russia, for the same reason. Russia will reconstitute the old Soviet Union and essentially be set. They will have ample natural resources for a manageable population. The USA is angling to dominate the Western Hemisphere... Canada, US, Central & South America. Lots of natural resources throughout all of the Western Hemisphere. Western Europe (minus Germany) will be on their own, and will become the dumping ground of all the rest of the world's refuse. Essentially Australia without the resources and with a huge socialist dependent population. Welcome to the NWO.
Oh yeah?
It's either that or possible evacuation time as this one continues to steadily increase in strength. Might as well use what's left of it as a spring board into a Third World War?
Thanks to our patented technology that keeps giving "gifts" to that Country, I could see Abe doing just about anything the U.S. tells him.
http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2013/11/possibly-radioactive-japanese-trash.html
Iran, Syria, Saudia Arabia, China, Japan, Russia, Denmark, Indonesia, Australia, Nigeria, Egypt, Italy, Peru, Brazil, Canada, Germany, and on and on have the right to protect their nations. At times this involves preparing for some scary shit and doing some scary shit to make sure it does not happen.
But not those fucking Americans. Everything they do is evil and wrong.
Agreed. The question is: is it still in the national interest of the USA to support Japan over this or have times changed? I honestly don't know anymore ....
Imagination is the greatest nation of them all.
Come back MDB all is forgiven. This prick has you in the shade. Born Retard.
I was just going to say, this has got to be Million Dollar Bonus or AnAnonymous with a new character. The satire is pretty good.
This guy is the national security version of MDB. Always effective at getting out the down votes. So much more entertaining than anything on the tube.
Patriot, do you wear presidential cuff links by chance?
Born Patriot
Vote up! 0
Vote down! -4
One of my favorite economists, Dr Paul Krugman, has written extensively about the benefits of extended monetary stimulus. The crucks is that when when inflation is low like it is now, then an expansionary monetary policy can be used to stimulate aggregate demand (spending) and decrease unemployment. Isn't that our Federal Reserve's dual mandate? Maximum employment and price stability?
This guy is full retardo administration psycho. I thought he may be Ben Bernanke incognito but the spelling of crux belies that.
LOL
Born again Patriot - YOU are an unqualified douchebag in a strict NY sense - which means you cannot be redeemed - therefore:
do everyone a favor - go to your bedroom - open the closet - walk in - shut the door - and BLOW YOUR BRAINS OUT - in the interest of advancing civilization!
"blow up our Federal Reserve Bank"
Is that why we have a 17 trillion dollar deficit? Is that what it cost us to purchase it from the cartel of private banker shareholders?
Geez, you think they would have given us a deal for a 100 year customer?
Go away government agent. You're making a mockery of the term patriot.
Hey-I hear Maduro in Venezuela is looking for a few stupid idiots to help him finish what the last asshole didn't screw up. Why don't you move, BP? That's it - you're a fucking oil company.
Jesus! Fuck! The world was a dangerous place back when the constitution was written. The world has always been a dangerous place, and so long as there are people, it will be dangerous. Tyranny, which is what you are asking for, will not diminish the danger to you, and in fact will likely increase it. Fucking deal with it. Fuck.
what our clueless-idiot-in-chief couldn't accomplish in Syria he may very well accomplish in Asia - full scale war and the accompanying debt monetization
If only we had Jimmy Carter to get us out of this mess.
what, you don't think Kerry can pull it off?
Maybe the EP-3 is the same one that the Chinese captured a few years back. That interesting affair included an emergency landing subsequent to the incident of a Chinese fighter pilot deciding he needed a final haircut using the #1 prop of the P3.
I remember that incident. I think the Chinese military has become a "loose canon" now that they have much more modern weapons they make on their own thanks to our technology we gave them!
I expect to see a military coup of the Chinese government in the near future as their experiment with "capitalism" fails and the populace demands a return to the "good old days" of Mao!
We did get the crew and the plane back. Interestingly, the plane was disasembled on that Chinese island and loaded into the big Anatolov.
US aircraft loaded into a Soviet-era aircraft on a Chicom island.. go figure.
good account with pics:
http://www.lynellen.com/p3orion/ep3ephotos.html
iBBama Needs A New War, So He Can Fuck Us With iBammaCare ...
Trolling, ur doin it rite. +1
Evil? Who? Or better, who in this game isn't? I'll lay odds that the citizens of all of the countries involved are remarkably similar - just as the governments involved are. The people would like to go about their lives, enjoying family and friends. The governments would like to build massive military machines to bank their power structures, have free reign to kill and imprison whosoever they like, and the power-wannabes want to go around murdering citizens instead of governments in their interminable quests for power .
The whole game on this planet has become unstable, for the simple reason that we keep allowing greedy bastards and megalomaniacs to usurp and hold power. The Chinese system is no more 'evil' than the one we have in the USA. Both groups spy on, steal from and murder their own citizens-both the governments AND powerful corporations. Neither group is the least interested in a peaceful world or the rule of law - except as it applies to citizens, providing a set of reasons to lock 'em up. The Japanese? No better than anyone else, except at accomplishing team goals, where they excel.
The tribes of this planet - be they political parties, corporate flunkies, government bureaucrats, religious groups or actual blood-related families, ought to try to come to grips with a glaring, immense fact: any one of them could, under certain circumstances, deploy the event which results in the complete annihilation of life on this lonesome rock. Some of them would do so gladly, suffering the illusion of some otherworldly 'paradise.' Whatever will all those dollar bills do without stupid humans to spend them?
It ought to be clear to those paying attention that we have entered a time when the old games will not suffice. De-escalating military conflicts on the globe is about the single most important step in any direction leading to the survival of our (and all the rest of the) species. Nobody quotes those parts of the Bible that talk about turning swords into plowshares, but that is the road to peace. People with full bellies, a job and some reasonable expectation of a little leisure time do not become anarchists, terrorists or warmongers. The Chinese government, along with every other government on this rock, would do well to consider that point.
Fuck the Japs. No more Asian wars for America. Fuck em all.
Here's your gun, go get 'em boy!
What Is This, A PRETEND-WAR ???
Is China about to give the war Obama wants!?
I'm not sure how Putin views China these days but India is not so fond of them.
But the real fuck up in this situation might be North Korea launching an attack against the South or Japan by some over zealous commander thinking a war has started.
be careful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emdzsz_XvfA
No shit!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJEn5zON4Fw
Interesting video... particularly the ending where they stole the theme from the Hollywood "The Pacific" series...
The scary part is that the Chinese will believe their own hype and feel they have to keep escalating "to save face", all while the Japanese do exactly the same...
You think like an American.....give it to me now! I want it. I can't wait.
We should probably think like Chinese....they think in terms of decades or centuries.
Oh really?? And that explians all the ghost cities there you mook!
If you think everything is wrong with America then leave if you are here and stop using the internet which is an American development that Al Gore did NOT invent as mooks like you believe.
Also stop using most plastics, refrigerators, your cell phone and everything else we "short term minded" Americans invented and the Chinese didn't you fucking idiot!
Russia and China appear to have a functional strategic relationship (Syria etc) and I can't imagine them 'breaking up' as long as America is trying to start more wars in their neighborhoods.
The way of Rome? We should be so lucky.
Yellowstone might rip the US apart before going down the path of Rome. It could erupt anytime now, it is due.
(or the New Madrid fault line)
It would take a few nukes in yellowstone, at the right locations to trigger it.
Same with the plates under the ocean.
Long dildos? Pun intended.
We as Americans need to let Japan know that we've got their back. If war breaks out, our military needs to intervene swiftly and let China know who's boss. It is absolutely essential that we maintain our military dominance in the world. Our willingness to intervene and stop evil in it's tracks and support our allies is the foundation of global progress.
MDB, you are using the same template you used for a certain jingoistic Middle Eastern nation.
All China needs to do if we try to let them know who's boss is push the button.
It could either be the button that launches their nukes or the button that crashes our economy.
Pick one.
Duh, you are the fucking evil. If you cant work out who the evil bastard at the table is, its you!!
LOL
What country are you describing? This one?
"It has created the world’s largest war-machine (even more dominant than Hitler’s). It has turned its former democracy into a fascist, two-party dictatorship. It has no respect for international law. It has no respect for its own, domestic law.
The U.S. Constitution might as well have been burned, as this two-party dictatorship routinely ignores its mandates, passing illegal “laws” which flout those provisions, generally in the name of stripping personal liberties/human rights. A nation which used to be famous for building highways and bridges now devotes nearly all of its construction dollars to building secret prisons and hi-tech surveillance facilities (while its highways crumble, and its bridges collapse).
Like the Third Reich, the Fourth Reich is a rabidly racist and xenophobic regime. It has alternated hating/fearing/persecuting blacks, Latinos, (non-white) Muslims, and any other demographic not WASP’ish enough to meet its standards for racial purity.
Like the Third Reich; the Fourth Reich is an extremely belligerent regime. It indiscriminately engages in the use of military force, leaving a large wake of dead, innocent civilians in its litany of war crimes. It tortures, it detains people without charges, without evidence, and without habeas corpus (i.e. “indefinite detention”). It claims the “right” to assassinate anyone, anywhere, simply by pointing its finger at a target and claiming that they “deserve it”.
Perhaps more disturbing are the efforts of its massive propaganda machine to warp the minds of its own population. The resultant cultural insanity – this Binary Insanity – has made the U.S. population literally incapable of even considering “moderation”, in anything."
The Fourth ReichAmerican "interventions" are the problem - not the solution.
Fight Fight Fight
as the school teachers run into the crowds of kids and find in the middle a couple of kids playing "Jacks"
Some how this might not be the case re China / Japan
by go the way of Rome you mean survive another 400 years after Augustus (or at least anothe 180 until the end of the 5 good emperors)? Or that the Roman Empire reached its geographic maximum some fifty years after the decadent emperors Nero Caligula Claudius under Trajan (Clinton-Bush2-Obama)?
Gibbon's moralistic argument for the fall of Rome doesn't stand scrutiny.
When the US empire collapses, do you expect we all vanish also? History is replete with nations rising and falling. The empire may fall, but the people rebuild with what's left and begin anew only to suffer the same fate 200 years or so later.
Jeffrey Pelt: "It would be well for your government to consider that having your ships and ours, your aircraft and ours, in such proximity... is inherently DANGEROUS. Wars have begun that way, Mr. Ambassador." Hunt For Red October - 1990
The US will not have the luxury of time that Rome had. There are many Romes now. You no longer have to make the choice between taking your wealth and your brains to the barbarians or suffering under Roman rule. You can just leave for a better and more comfortable Rome and take your wealth with you in a day.
Re: "The Chinese need not attack anyone. The Japs will be extinct in 30 years due to effeminate men and Nintendo. The US will go the way of Rome."
John B. Calhoun - "He claimed that the bleak effects of overpopulation on rodents were a grim model for the future of the human race. During his studies, Calhoun coined the term "behavioral sink" to describe aberrant behaviors in overcrowded population density situations and “beautiful ones” to describe passive individuals who withdrew from all social interaction."
top gun bitchez.
It's all fun and games until someone puts out an eye.
Bring it Bitches,may as well get this SHOW on the road.
Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_zo0FiNheI
The Chicom propaganda machine is working full tilt!
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/china-ups-the-rhetoric-in-air-...
“Maybe an imminent conflict will be waged between China and Japan,” the state-run Global Times warned in a Friday editorial. The newspaper disclosed China’s readiness to “firmly counter provocative actions from Japan” and “carry out timely countermeasures without hesitation” if Japan refuses to abide by rules Beijing has imposed in its air defence identification zone.
Who's gonna win this one?
The allies, or the axis?
Ask a banker...,
Booze Hamilton, LMT, GD are all having orgy;s over this one with Congress and Whore House. Party on butt fuckers of Amerika
Booz Hamilton, sounds like a strippers dream come true. What kind of gov. Associated agency would name themselves twat?
Banzai!!
Nikkei, Dow and China up
War is hope for Wallstreet .
gold unimpressed so far
I don't know, but I don't think I'd challenge the US in the air. I could be blinded by propaganda but I'm sorta thinking the US rules the sky. Boots on the ground, not so much. But who needs boots on the ground in China? Unregulated industry run wild is killing everyone with pollution it doesn't run off.
I am more interested in whose nukes are more accurate,
althogh, lol, nukes donT need to be very accurate.
And who can get the most nukes up the fastest?
America has been fighting countries without any modern air defenses for so long that it's only guesswork now. How well the hyped Russian anti-aircraft & anti-ship missiles will work against live targets is something I think we're going to find out eventually.
China knows it cannot fully defend the ADIZ with force. Any losses in the air will be responded to at the next treasury auction or a cyber attack. I am leaning towards the theory that dollar hegemony is nearing exhaustion after all.
If I were china I would just take a bunch of my bonds and sell them with a market order, hit every bid in the ZB all the way down to 100 and hold em there.
Though I don't think China buys our bonds on the listed markets and almost definately not the futures right? Think its probably done OTC.
Thats a very dumb move. There would be a lot of buyers the farther it went down, and when it bounces back up fortunes would be made.
Shhh! They might go for it!
Very sad and people will die (sons, daughters, mothers and fathers).
What kind of surprises me is that not a single "Nobel Peace Prize" winner, or the UN or anyfucking one, has asked the competing sides, to sit down and talk.........Stupid people start wars, stupid people run wars, stupid people support wars........
When the shit does hit the fan, just stay out of it........let the idiots kill each other off. Don't get caught up in flag waving bullshit.
Military men are “dumb, stupid animals to be used” as pawns for foreign policy.
Henry Kissinger,
National Security Advisor to Nixon, 1973
A "Nobel Peace Prize" winner provided the first provocation.
10:1 this twat is "overseas" PLA
"US xmas sales down to tensions over sanpopo islands"
Time for more eggnog.
those fucking pricks on CNBC have not mentioned this once ALL day
Of course not. It might hurt the daily rally.
Hmm...here's me thinking the MIC needs a war to offload some ordnance/issue credit, Obummer failed to kick it off with Syria, and now they are looking elsewhere...
Fullblown China v Japan (US) punchup is a bit out of the ballpark though.
Looks like China is a cohort in the ever evolving
"Take the focus off OvimitCare"
After all, China has trillions of fiat dollars invested
FU USA AND CHINA!!!
Dooooosh
Now all we need is a quip from North Korea to make these theatrics seem more serious (or less serious, depending on how you look at it :P).
Q: What is Chinese for the Japanese "Tora tora tora"?
A : "Tola tola tola".
Lol.
This is not good at all: new Financial Cold War is warming up very fast...
Bitcoin Has Reached Parity With Suppressed Gold And Crashed
In the modern age of Currency Wars and announced Financial War stage with China threatening the US Dollar Reserve Currency of choice status, we will ask very important question: Who is really behind Bitcoin? Even if it is not introduced by countries like China and Russia now - they are taking notice. People are getting out of dollars and other FIAT currencies and even Gold and Silver prices are affected by the BTC rise. The only thing BTC lacks in order to become the real Money is stability and "accepted system guarantees". Now lets imaging that somebody will introduce crypto-currency, but backed by Gold and going into the mainstream. This will be the real game changer and who knows maybe somebody is testing the grounds already. Next year China is going to announce its official Gold reserves and these number will be very interesting with ongoing record amount Gold accumulation this yearand record high leverage in the Western Fractional Reserve System with 69 owners per one ounce of Gold at COMEX. http://sufiy.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/bitcoin-has-reached-parity-with-gold...
It's the brits and their 2 bits coin.
War is peace, thus spoke the Noble Peace Prize Winner.
Another douche
GET THE FUCKING ORVILLE REDENBACHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im all in! USA USA USA!!! Get those commie bastard, get their bitcoins!!
i was kinda hoping one side would send in their f-35's and the other side would send in their f-35's.
and then the software problems.
bbut i guess its too early for that.
what a movie plot line. this disputed area is near to the so-called Devil's Triangle which is Japan's version of the Bermuda Triangle.
so a bunch of downed Chinese and Japanese pilots having to help each other survive and finding common cause in complaining about Indian software.
Born Patriot - I hope you get run over by an MRAP.
The Japanese are living on borrowed time anyway, so why not one last kami-kaze mission to try to rid the world of the Untied States biggest threat? Just keep us out of it.
Here we go with the Catalyst for Gold and Silver prices on the backdrop ofJapan/U.S. and China Air Cold War style escalation, India is slashing Gold and Silver tariffs unable to fight the smuggling in the country.
http://sufiy.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/government-interventions-in-gold-mar...
>> Here we go with the Catalyst for Gold
Yeah boy, it's spiked all the way up to $1,250. If it runs up another 50% we'll be looking at new all time highs. I'm going shopping for a new tractor, just in case.
Paying in BTC are we?
Buy one that runs ethanol.
What comes around goes around. China remembers Japan in the 1930's
China and Russia just needs to trigger the derivatives to fall like dominoes.
Mao killed 6-10 times the number of Chinese than the Japanese did in their occupation of China.
lets say it gets into a shooting war and China wins. They will never be able to drill for oil without expecting to be blown out of the water by a mini-sub. This might be needed for the publics in Japan and China as a distraction prior to real diplomacy. That makes sense if you know the players.
>> a shooting war and China wins.
Need we delve into the theater of the absurd?
This is a lose-lose for China. But it is a win for their oligarchs (and ours).
Good thing we have the cleaned-up version of Rodney King in the white house -- can we all just get along? can we?
I'm sure the new United States ambassador to Japan--Caroline Kennedy--will solve this problem in no time! /sarc
WHEN Obummer backs out of this situation the world WILL change.
UBER FUCKING BULLISH!
A limited war in Asia would serve 'Murica's interests. QE is not qoing anywhere, also the 'pivot to Asia' has been just hot air. Moreover, there's a lot of money in selling weapons to Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Australia etc. New markets for 'Murican weapons, such as Vietnam, could also be opened. Also, rebuilding the infrastructure by American companies. I'm sure 'Murica could squeeze some money from those old European surrender monkey 'allies' for that. Also, that NSA/Snowden thing would be forgotten for a moment. Whatever the outcome, the U.S. would gain hard political currency, and an excuse to open up new military bases next to China. The timing of an intervention should be only after the fighting parties have bloodied themselves enough.
I'm sure Rumsfeld & other neo-zombies are already hard at work. ROI of a war > ROI of peace.
You can buy a AK47 for less than 10 dollars in nearly every conflict region on Earth. But yeah it is America that exports arms without concern for how their actions affect the country where they are sold.
BTW the AK47 and its variants is a Communist achievement.
>> the AK47 and its variants is a Communist achievement.
You don't say?
1. Your quote for AK-47 is off by $100 or so
2. I did not claim Commies don't sell weapons. Everybody and their Swedish cousin sells weapons
3. Even yours truly has shot a few thousand rounds with an AK-variant
4. However, when we're talking about potential profits of tens to hundreds of billions, it will have an effect on country's policy. Especially if that said country's arms industry is in bed with its politicians
So, Asia is in grave need of some Good Old Peace & Liberty, or at least the neo-cons are in need of some extra dollars. Maybe if those pesky Chinamen are poked a little, just a little bit... You see, in Syrian business area, Raytheon, Lockheed etc. were dealt a short end of the stick, and looks like the same is happening in Iran.
As to re-introducing the word
irrelevant when this
http://www.futurity.org/planet-may-warm-centuries-even-co2-shuts/
is happening, I did that last night
but figure Tyler'd prefer I do this
http://pages.citebite.com/m2l3u8i4c9eow
(last night's)
rather than c-p it.
As both war and deep offshore are
among what's irrelevant now,
do investors think:
Beijing's obviously taking advantage
of Japan's weakness, both financially
and as to readiness for confrontation
owing to Fukushima, and just as is the
case in the U.S. and was the case for
colonial firms past, it's Chinese corporations,
first, the Chinese nation second, that will
benefit from aggression should Beijing settle
possession of oil reserves in its favor.
To the extent the market's privatized,
then if not privatized in a strictly controlled manner
strictly for public benefit, or else so as to
increase competition, not decrease it,
it's trickle down for the Chinese, with the
corporation having power akin to King's vassal.
To the extent it proceeds on democratic
footing, it's not, but it's even still then
the corporation that's the first and
prime beneficiary.
Do American investors buy into it?
Or do they say war for something
dimming everyone's horizon is finished?
rearranging the moving deck chairs on the titanic.
you have to admire lord edwyn rothschild he always was the ultimate james bond bad guy or since he owns mi6 does that make him a good guy.
fuckishima has cancer dosed us all and will do until the point of death.
everything else is bad acting in a piss poor play.
No problem. We played this game with the Soviets for 40 years. And they were a much worthier adversary than the Chinese.
There is too much personal and national pride and hatred between Chinese and Japanese for this to end well.
China's Rottweiler bitch, North Korea, has gotta be drooling and licking their chops.
"Into China's Air Defense Zone..." ummmm maybe you don't understand what is happening. This is Japanese terroritory that China recently declared as its own.
So if a shooting war breaks out with China...what do you think will happen to all there gold reserves?
That's right, they will sell their gold off to acquire resources for the conflict and gold prices will PLUMMET still further.
I'm waiting for the Japs to sell bottled water from Fukushima Springs to the Chinese.
what else we got in the inventory?
Sir! The Goodyear Blimp guys would like the next shot at the Chinese air defense zone.
Really? How quickly can we get it there?
Hmmm the Pentagon needs a high speed blimp mover. Put "top men" on that right away.
cause nothing says i'm a bad ass like a P 3
jb
It's the oil China needs they wouldn't be calming pieces of rock if there wasn't any. Remember an island means shallow water and easier cost effective oil production.