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The Other America: "Taxpayers Are The Fools... Working Is Stupid"

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While what little remains of America's middle class is happy and eager to put in its 9-to-5 each-and-every day, an increasing number of Americans - those record 91.5 million who are no longer part of the labor force - are perfectly happy to benefit from the ever more generous hand outs of the welfare state. Prepare yourself before listening to this... calling on her self-admitted Obamaphone, Texas welfare recipient Lucy, 32, explains why "taxpayers are the fools"...

"...To all you workers out there preaching morality about those of us who live on welfare... can you really blame us? I get to sit around all day, visit my friends, smoke weed.. and we are still gonna get paid, on time every month..."

She intends to stay on welfare her entire life, if possible, just like her parents (and expects her kids to do the same). As we vociferously concluded previously, the tragedy of America's welfare state is that work is punished.

 

(h/t Mish)

 

As we noted previously,

As quantitied, and explained by Alexander, "the single mom is better off earnings gross income of $29,000 with $57,327 in net income & benefits than to earn gross income of $69,000 with net income and benefits of $57,045."

We realize that this is a painful topic in a country in which the issue of welfare benefits, and cutting (or not) the spending side of the fiscal cliff, have become the two most sensitive social topics. Alas, none of that changes the matrix of incentives for most Americans who find themselves in a comparable situation: either being on the left side of minimum US wage, and relying on benefits, or move to the right side at far greater personal investment of work, and energy, and... have the same disposable income at the end of the day.

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Sat, 11/30/2013 - 13:30 | 4201919 Seasmoke
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Misdirection plant by the corporate welfare. 

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 13:33 | 4201923 jekyll island
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They will be mollified until the checks stop, or more likely become worthless

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 13:38 | 4201931 jekyll island
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Here's the video of the restless merikun natives...
http://youtu.be/hVQ3-WFy8k8

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 13:38 | 4201934 CH1
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Taxation is theft and the proceeds are used to destroy.

 

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 13:49 | 4201953 Keyser
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"Misdirection plant by the corporate welfare."

You have obviously never been witness to multi-generational welfare recipeints. Some of us have. As long as you pay someone to sit on their ass and not work, they are going to take advantage of it, as more and more Americans are discovering and taking advantage.  

 

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 13:50 | 4201958 Enslavethechild...
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Look, over there... No look, over here...

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 14:00 | 4201973 nope-1004
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Is my math correct..... She gets about $1250 per month, total family benefit, to feed 2 adults and 3 children, and she's proud of that?  Does she ride her bike to Walmart too?  Or thumb her way around town?

Family of 5 on $1250 per month gets nowhere.  Something not right about her statements - more so since she admits to a drug habit.

The numbers don't add up for me.  Prank call?

 

 

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 14:03 | 4201990 krispkritter
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Don't breed'em if you can't feed'em!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrIDW6GyFKA

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 14:30 | 4202071 BaBaBouy
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Thats About Right...

Join The ARMY And Become A Bonified ""INSTANT-HERO"", Or Just Collect Welfare And Keep Voting In The Same 2 Political Mafias IN...

AMERICA THE GREAT ... RAH RAH RAH

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 15:09 | 4202141 James_Cole
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I believe every caller on talk radio, just like I believe every story on zh.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-29/us-stealth-drones-bombers-arriv...

"Are you calling on an Obamaphone?"

"Yes I am!"

lol

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 15:19 | 4202169 yofish
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Now that, is funny.

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 15:51 | 4202225 Herd Redirectio...
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Corporate welfare is as much as problem as generational welfare...  When will people recognize a 'divide and conquer' strategy when they see one?  I guess thats why its so effective.

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 16:16 | 4202277 Keyser
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There is more than enough blame to go around on all sides of this equation. Unfortunately we are rapidly approaching the tipping point where the status quo just won't cut it anymore and pointing fingers does no good. TPTB will carry on the charade as long as they can, then bail out.  Prepare accordingly. 

 

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 16:19 | 4202282 SafelyGraze
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I told momma that one day she would be famous

and now here she is, being featured on zh for her interview!

good going, momma!!

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 17:14 | 4202388 markmotive
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Watch out because Mexico is creeping up on the lazy people of the world.

10 Hardest Working Countries

http://www.planbeconomics.com/2013/11/10-hardest-working-countries.html

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 18:00 | 4202458 Peter Pan
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This woman should be congratulated for exposing the sytem that has turned her and members of her family into what they have become over a period of three generations.

My total disgust is aimed at the government who wants to buy votes for a single day and then makes society pay for a whole life time.

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 18:44 | 4202518 New_Meat
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PP:

"... and then makes society pay for a whole life time."

Well, not really, I mean 'YES!" to the long time, but:

a) lifetimes, and

b) 'tain't "society", 'tis an ever decreasing slice of workin' folk, who might not even be permitted to be society.

c) and of course "odious debt".

don't cha' know

- Ned

{I'm learning not to be disgusted, since the prospective food supply* will likely follow the trace of the so-called "medical system"; I'd rather hold out for a while}

{{  *Except, of course, in the Capital District, where everything is fine, just fine.}}

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 21:59 | 4202809 philipat
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"The problem with socialism is that, eventually, you run out of other peoples' money"

-Margaret Thatcher

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 22:56 | 4202895 James_Cole
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Definition of socialism:

a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 23:07 | 4202909 philipat
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Exactly. After the healthcare sector is fully taken over by the Government, around 65% of the US economy will be under Government control. That is slightly higher than France. I rest my case.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 03:00 | 4203125 AldousHuxley
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government already owns everything

 

problem with healthcare privatization was that insurers only took premiums when you were health then as you turn 60ish they hand the old folks over to medicare.

 

also in healthcare a lot of goods and services are overpriced due to tax-free status.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 04:35 | 4203163 James-Morrison
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Greetings from District 13,

We are all foot-soldiers in someone's army:

"Hup-Two-Three-Four, hear the mighty engine roar,

Five-Six-Seven-Eight, FEMA food upon my plate..."

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 07:35 | 4203214 GetZeeGold
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Amnesty NOW....cause we can totally afford it.

 

We are not deadbeats.....we pay them well.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:33 | 4204796 old naughty
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"...ever decreasing number of..."

So bring on the hunger game,

you cockroaches have planned it for millennia, no?

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 22:36 | 4202863 Stuck on Zero
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Think of welfare this way ... the government is outbidding the employers in her area. 

 

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 03:03 | 4203128 AldousHuxley
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working poor are the suckers

rich work and get richer

poor don't work and get free stuff

taxes are taken from middle class and redistributed to lower class to keep them from unifying and revolting against the rich.

 

but welfare isn't the only way to get free stuff doing nothing. prisons offer the same thing, but some will say boredom is worse than stress from work.

 

just make sure you work smart like banksters and you will enjoy life.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 04:29 | 4203160 Popo
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On the other hand... perhaps the only way to destroy the system is to abuse the system.   Complaining about it on blogs sure doesn't seem to be doing shit.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 11:13 | 4203388 brettd
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Cloward-Piven have it right.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 08:02 | 4203228 Tim White
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When did they start counting votes??

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 10:22 | 4203301 RK
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could not agree more.... rkglobalanalysis.blogspot.com

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 22:00 | 4202810 runningman18
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You're certainly welcome to "believe" whatever you want to believe, James, and ignore as many concrete facts as you see fit in order to continue your life of oblivious comfort...the world needs its village idiots too, I suppose...

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 14:35 | 4202084 Occident Mortal
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" I get to sit around all day, visit my friends, smoke weed.. and we are still gonna get paid, on time every month"

Pretty much my idea of hell.

If you don't like working that's how you know you're a loser.

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 14:56 | 4202120 Troll Magnet
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Working is great...but not when you have a mafia working to live off of your labor.

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 15:32 | 4202192 Never One Roach
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Cut the Bonus Money for popping out moar kids.

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 15:43 | 4202213 Beam Me Up Scotty
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It is ironic isn't it.  A family of 5 making $1250 a month.  Why are you having ANY kids if you are only making $1250 a month?  How about you work your way up to a decent paying job, THEN having the kids?   Do any of these people stop and think that the reason they CAN'T move up the ladder is because they have kids too young?  Hard to move up to a better paying job when you have sick kids, daycare calling, sick because of sick kids, can't find a sitter, daddy won't watch the kids while you work......and on and on.

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 16:13 | 4202233 Future Jim
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So, in America today, if you own a business, you are not entitled to the fruits of your labor because "you didn't build that", but if you are totally on government assistance, then you are entitled to that.

OK, I got it now. It works like this: Whatever government says is correct.

We are in an economic recovery.

We must empower the little guy - by disarming the little guy.

WTC7 was NOT a controlled demolition.

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 16:23 | 4202290 Keyser
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The irony of the above scenario is that the welfare recipient receiving $1250 per month net, is taking home more $$$ than a McDonald's worker earning $8.81 per hour gross.  One works 160 hours per month and the other sits on their ass and smokes dope. Sad state of affairs and contributory to the demise of the US. 

It's been going on for decades and won't stop until the coffers run dry. 

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 16:26 | 4202299 Xibalba
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Not to mention that she gets the best heathcare available...MEDICAID

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 10:26 | 4203304 Escapedgoat
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Irony???  WHAT IRONY?.

The Banksters get all the Dosh.

1st.  By giving aid to the populace (the ones sitting on their ass), they do NOT REVOLT.

2nd. Having to pay for their Drugs (The ones imported From Afganistan  now, and Indochina in the '60s and '70s AND ALL THE CASH HAS TO BE WASHED aka LAUNDERED ) The BANKSTERS GET RICH

3rd. The Middle Class gets to work for some money, BUT  HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE STATE (see previous contributors and George Carlin).The BANKSTERS GET RICH (THEY don't pay taxes or rather WE PAY to THEM).

4th. While the Lower sections in Society FIGHT IT ALL OUT. 

   The BANKSTERS GET RICH

The Idea is NOT that we have to be rich, but rather to have such a wide gap in wealth, that the Banksters and their  ASSOCIATES (The Brainwashers, Media or Religious Establishments, and their Enforcers  State or Private Military) stay safe from the COMPETITION.

 

MORALITY  is not the most Important thing  SURVIVAL IS.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 11:15 | 4203393 brettd
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Survival IS morality!

History's lessons are written by survivors.

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 22:05 | 4202816 Future Jim
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And to answer the question ...

If the government offerred me one million dollars free and clear, I would not take it. I wouldn't even have to think about it, and no, I do not already have anywhere close to one million dollars.

Just one of several examples - I was about three weeks away from having to sell my house after the .com crash because I would not take unemployment.

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 16:27 | 4202289 James_Cole
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Why are you having ANY kids if you are only making $1250 a month?  How about you work your way up to a decent paying job, THEN having the kids? 

If you look at it realistically in the US, couples in a lot of places with single income under 100k shouldn't be having kids. But this type of social darwinism completely ignores the reason why this is the case and why it's unsustainable.

Not to mention youth should be seen as a great resource, not a great burden. Kids are way smarter than adults, just need some direction. Problem is most western nations continue to be run by useless, corrupt, greedy, senile morons.

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 18:07 | 4202467 Oracle of Kypseli
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They are unemployable

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 18:41 | 4202513 James_Cole
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They are unemployable

Considering children are a reflection of the society they are raised within, maybe it's worth taking a hard look in the mirror? Consider the values these kids grew up with for the past 20 years?

"All that is valuable in human society depends upon the opportunity for development accorded the individual."

"There can be no keener revelation of a society's soul than the way in which it treats its children."

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 01:09 | 4203062 TheMeatTrapper
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Considering children are a reflection of the society they are raised within, maybe it's worth taking a hard look in the mirror? Consider the values these kids grew up with for the past 20 years?

I agree. Thanks for admitting that the liberal fuckwads have screwed up society beyond belief. 

Perhaps you'd support traditional values such as you must work to eat, you must actually do the work to achieve a passing grade and you should be judged upon the content of your character rather than being given a pass based on the color of your skin? 

I'm glad you're finally coming around James. :) 

It's obvious the welfare state has been a complete failure and should be done away with, wouldn't you agree?

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 06:04 | 4203184 James_Cole
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Thanks for admitting that the liberal fuckwads have screwed up society beyond belief.

This would only be true if their values had been put into policy. In every area of society which actually matters there are no liberal values or conservative values, there are only corporate values.

Perhaps you'd support traditional values such as you must work to eat, you must actually do the work to achieve a passing grade and you should be judged upon the content of your character rather than being given a pass based on the color of your skin?

Depends on what type of 'work' we're talking. In a society which rewards the corrupt and the criminal maybe those who are opting out have the better idea. I work for the same reason everyone works, it's preferable to the alternative.

The rest of what you write is common sense.

It's obvious the welfare state has been a complete failure and should be done away with, wouldn't you agree?

No.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 08:52 | 4203238 GetZeeGold
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Do you remember where you where when the SNAP network went down?

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 11:04 | 4203372 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Responsibility is a choice. We love choices in America but have trouble understanding responsibility.

 

We have people who think killing children before their first breath is similar to flipping a coin. No more important than heads or tails.

 

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 15:23 | 4202177 nevadan
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Anybody notice the irony of the host decrying her gaming the welfare system--while working at a station with the call sign KLBJ?

Sat, 11/30/2013 - 15:57 | 4202238 hound dog vigilante
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hehehe...  nice catch.

the US is headed for devolution/secession.

 

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