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The Other America: "Taxpayers Are The Fools... Working Is Stupid"
While what little remains of America's middle class is happy and eager to put in its 9-to-5 each-and-every day, an increasing number of Americans - those record 91.5 million who are no longer part of the labor force - are perfectly happy to benefit from the ever more generous hand outs of the welfare state. Prepare yourself before listening to this... calling on her self-admitted Obamaphone, Texas welfare recipient Lucy, 32, explains why "taxpayers are the fools"...
"...To all you workers out there preaching morality about those of us who live on welfare... can you really blame us? I get to sit around all day, visit my friends, smoke weed.. and we are still gonna get paid, on time every month..."
She intends to stay on welfare her entire life, if possible, just like her parents (and expects her kids to do the same). As we vociferously concluded previously, the tragedy of America's welfare state is that work is punished.
(h/t Mish)
As quantitied, and explained by Alexander, "the single mom is better off earnings gross income of $29,000 with $57,327 in net income & benefits than to earn gross income of $69,000 with net income and benefits of $57,045."
We realize that this is a painful topic in a country in which the issue of welfare benefits, and cutting (or not) the spending side of the fiscal cliff, have become the two most sensitive social topics. Alas, none of that changes the matrix of incentives for most Americans who find themselves in a comparable situation: either being on the left side of minimum US wage, and relying on benefits, or move to the right side at far greater personal investment of work, and energy, and... have the same disposable income at the end of the day.
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Better to priorize people by their history of Political Correctness. Mead to the Nationalists in the front, wire nooses to the tards at the back.
She is double-dog daring you to cut the cord. You won't because you are weak. She is strong, she is risking her life. You would have to take her out back and shoot her in the head. Grow some balls and do it.
I actually appreciate her honesty. Telling on the system and publicizing it is a path to ending it. I note that she does not sound altogether unintelligent or a simpleton. She has made a rational conscious choice based on the very options presented to her by her friendly collectivist government.
I would be interested in knowing how often she and her worthless hubby-bf-baby daddy vote or even show up for a local protest.
Two men enter.....One man leave.
It's coming and there's nothing on Earth that's going to stop it.
If you aren't prepping,,,,,God help you.
There's only one way to change some people's minds and it involves ventilation to the open atmosphere.
This headline would be just as valid had it been "taxpayers are the fools, why should corporations have to compete without government subsidies?"
Right...the effective corp tax rate in this country is a joke
The Regime must continue to destroy all American Values in order to install its Authoritarian Socialism, the goal of which is to have a Regime in control of All Aspects of Life. It is to be similar to the Soviet Regime under Stalin.
William Ayers and crew have been writing about this for decades, but nobody paid any attention except for a few. Backdoor Barry is their Tool to sign the Edicts needed to create this Regime.
The Wolf is at the door. He has three more years to break it down.
In summary, mass starvation is just a glitch away. Large scale "die offs" are a fact of the natural world. This is an integral part of life cycles wherein years of excess fodder (foodstamps, welfare) lead to a population explosion, followed by drought and famine (insolvency) and massive starvation and death. Consider the combination of "just in time" SNAP benefits and "just in time" food delivery systems and the inevitability of catastrophe is clear. As others here have opined, the ensuing strife will be intense. "the revolution will not be televised"
Well, at least we can look forward to all those liberal intelligentsia types being marched off to the fields to learn agriculture under the first 5 year plan. Welcome to America's Year Zero! Forward!
Yes comrade. Glorious Re-education camps will assist your development into useful servant. And in advance we thank you for your savings. Forward the Gulag!
Just remember.....the useful idiots are always killed first.....no exceptions.
Yes! You are correct GetZ. I talked with a Soviet defector and the true believers are the first killed. It is because they will realize they have been fooled and can rebel from within or subvert the movement.
Many were they who prohesized famine in Africa. Now thirty years go by their population has tripled. Death, when it comes, will not be through lack of global agricultural production.
Perhaps you've heard of Somalia?
Nice down vote on the question. Pssst - Somalia is in Africa. A quarter million starved to death 2010-2012.
https://www.google.co.uk/#q=population+somalia
Here we see population growth in Somalia from 3 million in 1960 to 10 million today. Is it any surprise that some people will starve on the periphery when the growth rate is out of control?
How's South Africa doing after they killed and drove out all the skilled White farmers? From the breadbasket to importing food. Enthusiasm doesn't replace expertise.
Rhodesia aka Zimbawe is a better metaphor.
Great post Manic.
I also have a strong inkling of a major GMO MONO CROP FAILURE down the road.
Long Heirlooms seeds, get some now, including wheat if you like bread. Practice while your life does not depend on your harvest.
I also suggest planting lots of perrenial berries, etc. and lots of potatoes, try a few varieties and planting methods. JIC
Another fucking RIGHT WING propaganda video. Yes this woman just happened to call some radio station. Right? You are played like a violin by these billionaire knavers like Rove played on the dumbasses to elect Bush or Druckenmiller spreading filth to rile up young against the old or Koch Brothers and Peterson Foundation telling young people that voting is for old people or sponsoring college beer parties to tell college students that they should 'opt out of ACA.'
All these radio networks are owned by right wingers who put out hosts like Limbaugh, Levine and Savage. Who owns your local radio station? Do they ever talk about $13 trillion that went to bail out the rich? No, but they do insult your intelligence by putting out phony interviews designed to make you hate in order to advance their agenda.
Right and left are two sides of the same coin. Time we all used another currency.
In case you haven't noticed the progressives are both right and left.
You're so right; the feds ought to hire everybody in the nation and pay them each a million dollars per year. We'd all be millionaires, the feds would have almost unlimited tax revenues and there would be no poor left in America.
We could then open our borders to all comers and improve the fate of all peoples the world around. All we need is a government with enough power.
I thought Lucy was pointing out the likely behavior of anyone that was handed a million dollars for nothing. It didn't seem like she was drawing a distinction between the financially well to do and those financially lacking.
propaganda?
Denial is not a quality that will be conducive to your survival when Lucy and her friends EBT cards stop working. Till then, feel free to convince yourself of anything - you obviously have no problem with that.
Dream on. Listen carefully again.
And what is the agenda of Rush, Mark...Savage is his own piece of work. If the agenda is liberty and minimalist government where exactly is the danger?
Methinks you may be one of the too-smart-by-half useful idiots.
I wonder if she'll feel the same way when we ineluctably hit that debt brick wall in the next few years, all entitlements come to a sudden and swift end, and oh, by the way, her kids starve to death because she had no other source of support for them.
Those who have made government their god, well, should just remember that even Babylon the Great shall fall!
The thing is, she is going to starve along side people who work, because those who prioritize where money goes in frugal times, make sure their fat cat pork barrel servants are first to the trough.
"The government puts a gun to my head if I don't pay my taxes...."
EXACTLY.
whoo hoo- welfare rocks in the state of TX. Who would have thought
Bitch should be on a bleach drip along with her worthless litter.
The idle rich and the idle poor. Like most things in life, snip off the ends and much of your problems are sovled
I'm the one who downvoted you. It's possible I'm misunderstanding you. But...
I don't buy into the class warfare b.s. I would however buy into holding those that use force/fraud to (try and)get what they want accountable.
I was referring to the parasites at both ends. Not all are parasites but many are and we would be better off without them if they don't respond to that accountability you talk about :)
Roger U4. I think we would/are agreeing that the problem is there are parasites due to the lack of accountability. In other words, "the system" is the problem, more so than the parasites. And yeah, I know they are part of the system. I know they help perpetuate it. I can see you want to get rid of them, at the top, and bottom. I see that.
I'll say it again, perhaps because I want to try and be as clear as I can... I hate divide and conquer class warfare. I believe that class warfare is a mentality that starts the creation of a welfare state to begin with.
As you can see, I changed my vote on your post. Not that it really matters much. Voting? Meh. In a way I kind of like it though. It kind of gives me an idea of what other people are thinking, about what other people's opinions are. I'm just glad it's not a power and control representative democracy voting thing here on ZH. Just opinion voting. Everybody has them, which obviously means me too.
Cheers
I have never been a class (and some would say classy ;)) person. I came from a poor upbringing (single mom with three boys to raise, that is as ghetto as it gets no matter what your skin color) and am making it my best effort to rise through the ranks having had a fantastic work ethic as my example and conscience/character builder growing up.
There are only two classes in my book, the givers and the takers, and they can come from any walk in life. Unfortunately, because of the makeup of these classes, warfare is inevitable. It is not usually too bloody or too protracted. When the givers take five minutes to look up from cleaning the toilets of the world to honestly assess what the takers are doing, they usually administer a quick and efficient whipping that gets everything in line soon enough
I have an saying regarding this world that seems to work no matter the test:
Whatever you feed, grows
It is pretty simple, but whenever I hear the government say they are going to throw money at eradicating something, I know that it is a monster that they are about to feed. Johnson's war on poverty is an excellent example. The US has been feeding money in to that monster for decades and it is only getting bigger. Same with the banking system, politics, the war on drugs or the war on terror. The only way to kill the beast is to starve the beast
That last paragraph is near poetry. Exactly right. Until we learn to starve the beast it will only grow until it consumes all of us and everything we produce...and it will with time.
A group of bankers have bribed the Washington D.C. politicians into committing treason against the United States of America. The scum even released SSI benefits 2 days early so the benefits could be spent on Black Friday. What those that have the power fail to understand is that instability in a complex system becomes chaotic and that the outcome of that chaos does not unfold to any central planned plan, Instead it causes fracturing into separate powerful and technologically advanced entities that begin to war with each other.
Everyone's life is in danger. We need to come to terms with thisconsciously while we still have time.
This is all playing out by design. We're headed into the new dark ages.
Dark Ages. Still a few more days left to shop and appease the GODS of WallStreet and the Econ Dept in DC.
If everyones life is in danger, i hope they come after us boomers first. I'm getting too old for danger and i think we single handedly destroyed this country in one generation. Not a bad days work if you can get it. We will deserve every bit of what we got coming.
You are 1 boomer who should be left alone. You realize what your generation did = get a non-Soylent Green pass.
USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
Woman With 15 Kids: "Somebody needs to be held accountable, andhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KUW2vCPX7w
TN end of the world
Lucy doesn't realize that there is no free lunch and there will be a reckoning. Good luck with that.
From the sounds of it , she is confident that this will continue. I live in TX and see this everyday. So much for TX, which is turning out to be ........................................
If you work 40hrs. a week at minimum wage. Welfare is a better route. Its like a RAISE...They need to cut down the benefits.......
That's the stick and you need some carrot to go with it. Like the government getting out of the way of small business so there can be more opportunity to climb out of poverty and into the middle class and beyond.
The problem isn't necessarily Lucy. The problem is the government and the incentives that they created. Not only does Lucy get all those benefits, but as your briefly mentioned, she is able to hold down a bunch of costs living her current lifestyle. She doesn't have to worry about spending money for gas to drive in to work. She doesn't have to get child care. She can buy less fance and expensive clothing. She doesn't have to wake up early and rush into work, fight traffic or stress out over deadlines.
But there is a bigger problem moving forward. What if everyone lived this lifestyle? There would be no taxpayers and only moochers. What follows next is the final chapers of Atlas Shrugged. If you want a real life example look to the Soviet Union, Detroit or Greece.
The problem is precisely Lucy--her wholesale lack of self-respect, and her nihilistic lack of interest in producing anything of value.
Only a stupid person would work harder for less.
It depends. If one is an apprentice one might work harder for "less money" but I will pick their brains and learn to do what they do only better. I have worked harder for less, temporarily, so I can have a better life later on.
Exactly, to which I'll add, her complete lack of regard for the people BELOW her, for whom the benefits were originally intended - i.e. the truly needy who can't work due to genuine disability.
People blame the poor, as if they run the central banks.
Lucy is not poor, she's simply an opportunist.
Reward behavior and you get more of it. (Psychology 101)
Texas is America's third world. Civilized Americans do not speak of Texas.
Agreed. It should be more civilized like our favorite leftist paradises like Chicago, Detroit, Oakland, Baltimore and Camden.
Who is punishing work?
Carly Fiorina dumped 30,000 HP workers.
Republicans can't say tax cuts create US jobs. Politically, they've shot themselves in the foot. When Barack Obama was elected, there were no hanging chad. Not even close. Mitt Romney got kneecapped in September by the hidden camera. The Romney campaign was finished, done, and over with before he even got close to 06Nov2013.
You don't have much economic sense... do ya?
I thought this article was an affront all the AFRICAN-americans, especially the obese ones. Welfare is only just... reparations would be better... free crank, best. Shiela jackson Lee for President!! Oh, never mind, obongo is doing just fine. I'd march, but can't seem to lift mah ass out of the chair... pass the chronic, bro.
So, you're suggesting only minorities are on welfare?
The % of white people on welfare, especially disability, is catching up as the people in charge (overwhelmingly white) send the rest of the good jobs overseas.
Only assholes blame those @ the bottom for problems caused by those calling the shots.
Working is stupid.
This is what the big shots on Wall Street say too!
If they stopped spending so much money on the illegal wars, invasions of other countries for their resources, and to keep them in the central bankster system, everybody could sit around and do nothing all day while collecting 100,000 a year. People could be paid a hundred dollars an hour just to pick up trash. The economy would boom, people could even consider starting their own businesses again.
http://vimeo.com/19796823
The basic income guarantee (BIG) is a government insured guarantee that no citizen's income will fall below some minimal level for any reason. All citizens would receive a BIG without means test or work requirement. BIG is an efficient and effective solution to poverty that preserves individual autonomy and work incentives while simplifying government social policy. Some researchers estimate that a small BIG, sufficient to cut the poverty rate in half could be financed without an increase in taxes by redirecting funds from spending programs and tax deductions aimed at maintaining incomes. Click here for more information.
Just curious as to how many ZH'ers are aware that the IRS is a nonfderal supranational organization that collects "voluntary contributions" which it sends to the Federal reserve, IMF and subsequently to the UN
Donald Trump's bankruptcies have forgiven far more debt than thousands of Lucys would receive in a lifetime.
And all those who lost money were people who lost money were people who freely lent him money with no guns being pointed at them if they didn't do so.
Should we be surprised? Incentives matter! And Lucy (bless her) is acting on those incentives precisely how we would expect her to. If you want to change behaviour, you have to change the incentives that motivate the behviour we are seeking to change. In other words, don't expect Lucy's desire to change unless and until the incentive to remain idle is removed from the system. This isn't complicated. Change the rules such that Lucy will prefer to work (and produce something ov value) over not working.
But there is even a much larger problem with the status quo for Lucy. So long as entitlements and benefits remain available to Lucy she will elect to remain gainfully unemployed. This result, over time, makes Lucy increasingly less relevant to the market place. She loses practical skills and she loses the time to acquire new skills that could and would be valued by the market place. That is the long run damage effected by the welfare state - a diminishing productive labor force that leads to permanent structural unemployment.
I'm not saying Lucy is a hero - but she is making choices based on the set of information available to her. If you want Lucy to work, change the options available to her. Its that easy.
"In other words, don't expect Lucy's desire to change unless and until the incentive to remain idle is removed from the system."
LOLOLOL...that's such bullshit. If the "incentive to remain idle" is indeed part of the system, then why are so many people NOT idle? That's like saying that legalizing pot will cause millions of people to suddenly--and against their will--start smoking pot. Her idleness is HER choice, no one else's...
Wow Vooter, you just incentivized me. I'll think I'll get straight to work now at a "Corporation" where I have an enormous amount of "Tax" taken from me to support things I don't believe in! Like say, making sure that Lucy continues to receive "free money"!
/s
I agree Vooter (and I +1'd ya) - it is always Lucy's choice, in the end. But its the entitlements that encourages the choice to exercise that behaviour. Nobody said anything about force - as you have. While it is true that Lucy "could" be better off were she to work, she also recognizes that she is no worse off for not working. Still gets fed, gets clothed, gets fueled, gets plenty of rest, gets health care - in short gets all the things she wants relative to her order of importance (indifference - i know the Austrians will freak out with that), and in defence of the austrians - maybe she will work tomorrow. But, she's not working today - and she's not working today BECAUSE SHE CAN not work today. Its really that simple. We have employed a system that allows her to make that decision and be right about it. And lets be clear, your legalizing pot analogy is nowhere near the same kind of decision because your invoking a notion of coercion which necessarily implies a loss of choice. cheers
Pareto, I like a most all of what you said. One thing I have a problem with though is... "If you want Lucy to work, change the options available to her. Its that easy."
That part seems to be easy for you to say and leaves me wondering if you've heard the old saying, easier said than done. You didn't tell anyone "how" to do what you suggest.
+1 OTS66. Well, this is it, isn't it. I mean you're right. I was merely responding to the posts that refused to accept such behaviour from Lucy as being rational, when in fact, it is totally rational. In my view, I don't believe things will ever change through democracy, and will in all likelihood worsen. So long as 50% +1 can hold a gun to the heads of the 49%, the "Lucy file" will prevail. But I don't want to be too hard on Lucy because in my opinion its the corporate welfare and the MIC that is destroying capital formation through incfreased taxes and currency debasement. For the same reasons education and health have balooned in cost but deteriorated in quality is because like all the other welfare (redistribution) programs there is absence of accountability from the market. This is the problem, has always been the problem, and unless we change the construct, always will be the problem.
Moral hazard - arising from any entitlement that divorces the consequences of peoples actions from their decisions - is a full-time result of democratic panaceas provided for by coercion of the 51%. When I look at the total debt of $17T, it is impossible, OTS, to come away with any other conclusion other than "Its not working" and where moral hazard is the only thing that is working. Lucy, imo is symbolic of everything that is wrong with the 51% and so it seems pretty obvious that instead of riding roughshod over the greatest document ever written to coordinate and encourage the productive actions of individuals (Constitution), I think we need to return to that though it may already be too late. Most of the Amendments have been tossed - at least those with any substance to them.
Its ironic really. Because even if we were to return to a republic, its really too late in that the 1% have successfully fleeced and gutted the middle class. A return to the republic would almost be the natural step and would probably be completely supported by the 1%, thus ensuring permanent imiseration of the fleeced 99%. QE, for example, will ensure that most property will exchange hands from the middle class to the rich, so property rights and the Takings clause to the 5th Amednment will have even more power over the 99%. Its like the Constitution is a static set of rules. It worked great when it is permanently employed. However, it has been displaced for the last 100 years by the welfare state and Keynesian monetarism. A return to the Repulic now will just enshrine the current distribution. in short, I don't have the answer - I wish I did. You look after yourself, your family, and if you can, a neighbor. That is all that anybody can really do at this point. And anybody who claims this is repairable is, quite frankly, completely full of shiite. cheers
pareto,
if the money printed and gifted to the banks went to small business (even a monthly fraction) things would begin to change. small loans to third world women encouraging them to market and sell have changed the lives of many families.
+ 1 no argument there.
Of course, if those welfare benefits were cut off, and suddenly those people now want to work, what will they do? There are no more jobs. All the people who want to work can't find jobs. So, your conclusion that the welfare state provides disincentive to work is moot. There is no work to be had. Part of the reason for that is that capital has a tax advantage versus labor. Because of that tax advantage, it is inherently cheaper to deploy capital than to hire labor. CApital gains should be taxed exactly the same as other income.
I'm cool with taking care of Lucy, but for God's sake man, don't let her replicate.
Ms Loosey, I would not trade the way I feel about me for the way you feel about you for all the money in the world.
P.S. It is a lot more than 40 hours a week.
(since you brought it up)
Exactly...there are millions and millions of losers like this woman crawling around out there...who gives a shit? You want to waste your life and live like a shiftless pig, that's your prerogative. But I'm not going to do it...
Hey, I resemble that comment!
I don't believe her. Probably a "conservative" trying to rile up the masses. Probably she practiced that by having a list of "benefits" she gets. Listen to how she goes into a phony negro accent at the start, then fluxuates back into sounding quite intelligent, go to 2:50 and listen, very smart immitator, and she complains about illegals just like a Limbaugh clone. PHONY.
As resources become scarcer you will see more of your FSA at each others throats.
Of course it's bullshit Magnum. But it's effective bullshit. It keeps the masses barefoot and dumb. That is why five years later, we are still mired in an economic nightmare. The oligarchs caused this mess, and through our own stupidity, they have us blaming each other for this misery. A stroke of genius on their part. I suppose that explains why the oligarchs have all the money.
Two words: Planned Parenthood. I used to be against it but now I see why the Progressives love it so much. This parasite is the dictionary definition of a "Useless Eater".
yea, but what quality of weed do you get?
I might be the only one on this site who thinks that we should take care of all regardless of how mad it might make us. We are all aware that the system is busted and I couldnt stand for someone straving too death. Also I do find this story some what rigged it smells like teabaggers bullshit.
I agree with the principle that those too weak to take care of themselves should be taken care of. People like this, however, are not too weak to take care of themselves and are perfectly capable of feeding themselves. They just don't have to, so they don't.
I agree with you No. This post has " Oligarch Approved" stamped all over it, and as you can see from many of the comments, the tools took the bait. The $50,000 and $60,000 figures sound impressive, out of context. My employer sends me a yearly letter with a break down of how wealthy I am. Who knew that my salary included money that I never see. Sure, I understand health care costs, but the cost to heat/cool, electrify and give me water???
Look, I believe welfare recipients should not have taxpayer subsidized cell phones. Having said that, I'm not going to get too exercised about it. Not when the big banks and financial services industry have been bailed out to the tune of $23 trillion in just five years, with more bailouts and bailins to come.
We need to keep our fucking eyes on the ball. This post is just a distraction.
An you with noname and no brain are one of Vladimir Illych's "useful idiots".
Aquarius (Let the Sunshine in)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06X5HYynP5E
Believe me or not:
First, it's not your country;
Second, you should actually be thanking all those welfare takers, as they're the actual resistance, because if anything/anyone will ever bring down this charade, it will be because of them, not those working their butts off, basically just keeping the system from collapsing by paying taxes for themselves, for the dropouts, and for the über rich who don't either;
Your taxes are just keeping them at bay, preventing them from starting the revolt you're claiming for.
Consciously or not, somehow they actually got it and made the only influential choice: stop collaborating, stop feeding the system, and draw it down instead; "middle class" still believes in rainbow unicorns and how "special" they are, and that they can save the day somehow and the future will be bright again - they're the real sheeple.
Smart worker bees will ultimately profit from the crash. You "welfare takers" will provide us with amusement when it happens.
"Smart" worker bees provide me for free all the honey (and royal jelly, and wax) they so tirelessly work for, all day, everyday, without ever getting any profit from...
Heck, I can even freely use their bodies, disposing of their lives to cure me of my ailments, without them ever having a choice or say.
You will rot in hell for thinking like this - remember the meek inherit the earth you satanic cork soaker
Leave your idiotic superstitious mumbo-jumbo and imaginary friends and enemies for your local parish.
Ignorance is only bliss for those who take advantage of it - all I described to you is what's been happening around you as we speak.
Can't believe someone in here still can't see things the way they really are, and then freaks out when they're put face to face with how they are, but hey, guess there had to be a reason for things to be that way...
"because if anything/anyone will ever bring down this charade, it will be because of them" (welfare recipients)
First of all, people that sit on their butts all day are not consciously protesting or bringing down anything, nor do they have any clue about who really runs the charade - other than the fact that those who do don't look or talk like they do (observations from both sides of the coin - and of course this is a generalization). No, they just think they're gaming the system - which is enough reward for them. No, if anyone will bring this down it will be thoughtful hard working people in the middle class waking up, perhaps with a few exceptions at the top and bottom - a 2nd American Revolution. But people need to be convinced that freedom and throwing off the bankstas' debt shackles are really in the best interests of themselves and their families. We've certainly not reached critical mass on that yet.
They aren't "consciously protesting"; in fact, they aren't protesting at all and needn't to, what they are, however involuntarily and unconsciously as they may be, is, in a way, acting as the Gandhis of the days.
"Middle class" won't wake up to anything but their illusions, until they're no longer middle class - that's the pure and simple truth. I've known plenty people from the different "classes", and would tell you "middle class" is full of clueless, sycophantic people who think they're so special, and whose main goal is just to keep their own little status quo, and are ok with anything, as long as they can set themselves apart from the unwashed poor. Good luck convincing them to fight even boredom, you young revolutionary...
I find it both interesting and amusing the way collectivists
troll libertarian/free market capitalism sites. I've never been to a progressive/collectivist site as their beliefs are vacuous and hold no interest for me. I doubt I'll ever fathom how these child-like people think.
There was a time when I would say going to college and getting good grades gave you better opportunities. Now I say going to college only lands you into debt. I don't see why people are shocked? Who wants to slave away at Fat Arnold's just to get a min. wage check and feed the sheeple...? When you could comp a govt check and do whatever you want.
America is trash and so are majority of the people... All I ever see is fat kids on the internet stating problems rather than solutions. If you really cared you would get the f**k up and go do something about it...
"Soon, Mr Premier Hussein, all Americans will be working the diamond mines."
"Excellent, minion. Don't feed them too much. And bring me the young boys."
People on welfare should not be allowed to vote while collecting benefits, it'a a conflict of interest that only feeds the central govt and the leeches attached to it.
Majority of voters are welfare recipients, in fact politicians guarantee that
Social welfare should not be permanent.
Corporate welfare should not be.
I've been preaching the benefits of BC Big Bud for years now.Everybody just cool out,relax and do a number.I don't collect welfare but I'm a small trader.(What in hell does that say).I trade the EUR/USD and invest my profits in gold and silver coins and bullion.The herb keeps me calm while trading.Keeps me loosened up, I do my stretching and usually smoke a number or two walking my dog about three miles daily.I hang around the pool at the Rec Centre.Nothing like being like the Sweds.I don't drink alcohol.You can ask any law enforcement officer about "heads".We're a peaceful bunch and don't believe in violence.Alcohol is the main problem for police along with domestic violence.If your Doctor won't give you a license to possess up here in Canada then get a prescription for Sativex.Sativex is the best buzz you can get.Most health care plans by insurance companies cover it including Blue CrossBayer/GW got to make lots on that one.Take 'er easy to start.Doing it orally is an entirely different buzz and these pros got a high performance model.The THC level alone,not including the CBD and the derivatives is at 27.5% THC.Best buzz going for sex too,"two joints of BC Big Bud and two sprays of Sativex under the tongue.Give it 15 minutes to charge up."Don't forget to put the tunes on.
One of my favourite websites is CannabisCulture.
WOW Amazing you have enough mental energy to write an entire paragraph.
BTW, to Obama you would be a evil speculator.
America is not alone in having Welfare Wallies. In the UK it is widely known that some homes (paid for by taxpayers) house three generations of families who have never got up in the morning and gone to work.
For them, it's always been a trade off. They accept a reduced standard of living than hard working folks in work have (if they're lucky), in return for never going to work and being told what to do. Just so long as they've got enough free money from the State to have most, if not all, of the latest gadgets and gizmos.
Many of these people have been taught they have a "right" to welfare. And to have babies at taxpayers' expense. etc etc. They've often been called "the entitlement generation". Gee, thanks Mr Blair/Brown.
In the UK (Unemployed Kingdom), your stupid tea-drinking, watercress sandwich eating politicians have never gotten up & gone to work either!
Except for Nigel Farrage. Nothing against you, but your politicians are equally as stupid = why the USA & UK are the most broke of the big former economic powerhouses.
Agreed. The Westminster Bubble and the wider Establishment is overflowing with spivs, conmen/women, mindless morons and people with agendas to manipulate society into a shape that suits them. Collectively, few of them are fit to be in any position of leadership or authority. Farage comes across as being sane but there are plenty of people who have nagging doubts about him.
There is not a single person inside the West Bubb who advocates having a proper written constitution, small government, balanced budgets etc etc. It's all about more and more statism.
One subject not addressed here. It doesn't pay the wealthy to work either. My investment income is taxed at a rate of about 11% after deductions. No FICA tax. So...I make $100,000.00+/yr and sit on my ass. My doctor has worked his ass to the bone, makes about the same gross amount but pays about 45% in taxes. Seem fair?
Monkeys protest unequal pay the same task http://loiter.co/v/two-monkeys-are-rewarded-for-completing-a-simple-t/
It really pisses me off but then I remember the Banksters,corporate welfare,paying farmers for not growing and subsidized crop insurance,crooked unions ,military industrial complex scams,and on and on. Small business and their employees seem to be hauling the freight for the whole criminal enterprise. illegal immigration pisses me off also but what better way to be integrated into a criminal nation.
We are all kulaks.
"Head for Argentina and Venezuela at warp one, Mr Spock."
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Man, none of these people have any self-respect or self-value. Socialism/fascism is Truly Evil.
The best way to destroy a Country is from within. This is a perfect example. Those using the productivity of other to benefit themselves.
I think from the explosion of Disability claimes, food stamps, it is better to be on the receiving end than the paying end.
But, we all know when there are more receivers than payers what happens.
What Lucy is describing is "slavery". Wait till the folks with f**k you money leave physically or electronically. Who you going to call then Lucy...the Chinese?
LOL, the Chinese have been lending to the international equivalent of Lucy for years now.
You and I have more in common with Lucy than with the .1%. For every dollar of social welfare, the government pays $40 of corporate welfare. Is that fair?
First of all, don't fall for the divide and conquer, false choice, red vs blue. Stop corporate welfare.
Well, if we're not going to fall for the false dichotomy, we should be stop welfare of any kind. While corporate welfare is magnitudes more, this kind of welfare destroys generations of lives just as well.
Obammunism plain and simple.
At some point, when no one was looking, and quite before y'all were born, the world was centralized with a set of rules that dictated how life is to be lived.. a game.
As a result, you were born into a world without choice: no choice in what you ate (how you defined nutrition), in how you judged yourself or others, in what defined happiness or success or beauty or respectability. These were all provided for you.. and in return you were judged by peers who wholeheartedly bought into the game and its rules.
But some people.. for whatever reason.. be it nature or nurture... are just plain not very good at playing this game. They may be good at other things like art, or building things, but the part of the brain that would make them better at the game... more 'useful' in the world... is defficient.
People who are really good at playing this game call that part of the brain 'common sense', and anyone who doesn't possess those skills might be called 'lazy'.
When the PTB centralized the world and made it a game, they knew there were going to be people who just weren't going to be any good at it.
So they invented handouts like social assistance/welfare (arts grants, empl insurance, etc.) - all are just their way of acknowledging this... and all of it is a required necessity to keep the game alive.
Props to this lady who just ran the whole system through her version of 'common sense'.
" have the same disposable income at the end of the day. "
Welfare money flows through her to the 1% at the end of the day
This is how the bankstas divide and conquer. This kind of story rightly infuriates hard working people and more subtle-ly, and probably more effectively, the MIC and corporate crony welfare squeeze the middle class from the other direction. Pick your party and pick your poison. And the Ds seem to dabble more effectively than the Rs in both cookie jars - and look they control 2/3 of the gubmint.
Visited my daughter over this long weekend in a typical medium size upper midwestern city. I saw consumption and shopping on an EPIC scale. No, I mean fucking EPIC. They were cleaning out Malls, Shopping Centers, Big Box Retail, you name it. If this is America in a deep economic crisis, then I need to know what the source of people's money is. I drove by a Wall-Mart on Thanksgiving day around 5:00PM, the lot was full and guys in reflector jackets were directing cars to alternative parking, This was true at other retailers and malls across the city.
Whatever America is in 2013, it is NOT short of consumer cash or consumer credit.
If this is America in a deep economic crisis, then I need to know what the source of people's money is.
It's called the petrodollar: export currency, import value.
And when it ends it'll be a doozy.
It might be the system as a whole? http://youtube.com/watch?v=rrkrvAUbU9Y
She has a valid point regarding working especially if anyone knows anything about QE and the history of currencies ;)
Stupid woman with a torchered and confused take on morality, but then again that's why they put her on the radio. Too dumb to realise how lucky she is, and too selfish to realise that she should be contributing. Could someone or something change her mind? Will she ever come round to the idea of making a contribution? Does anyone think that you can shame someone into appreciating society, or shame someone into fulfilling their potential? Shame is a fairly corrosive emotion, the right may mean well but it has to wake up and realise it will do more harm than good.
A good move from the right would be to focus attention on making these people see sense; that is where all the political wiggle room is, rather than making them feel like shit (which isn't hard to do). When you completely polarise a subject like welfare/charity, you run the risk of creating "victims", that eventually take on a twisted morality because society tells them they are a problem . That has failed so far, and it will fail even more spectacularly.
The right needs to play the left at its own game, start building positions in the centre ground before it disappears. Moral indignation will only make the matter worse.
How many trillion has corporate America received in welfare?
What do you expect when you see your corporate leaders and politicians sucking on the teat? Why not get some of that milk yourself?
As a non-American who is sickened by what America stands for (see Black Friday) --- I am rejoicing when I read this article.
I hope Walmart and McDonalds workers see this stuff and have an epiphany - quit - and sign up for the dole by the tens of thousands.
And meanwhile the big banks keep lining up for more free cash from Ben to punt in the casino with the knowledge that pappa Ben will be there when they fail.
Heck - how many times in your life do you get to witness the crash of an Evil Empire?
I'M LOVIN IT!
Canada?
She has never been hungry and living in the ditch. When she gets hungry, she will change her tune and working will be a very smart choice.
Her miserable life is not worth the reversal of a Custer decision.
What's even worse is the people that don't want to address our parasite culture and instead just scream about bank bailouts as if that's the only problem. Sorry, but it's all connected, these people are the reason why the banksters were able to take over, the beast needs to be fed, and that means QE to Infinity.
And when society figures out that work is for suckers, that's when the whole things comes tumbling down.
Our entitlements weren't a problem in the past because it was looked down on when people worked the system. Now it's celebrated.
I was discussing this today with my cousin. He is a proponent of big government, and thought that everybody should be forced to buy into the Obamacare debacle. He said that it was "stupid" for young people to not have insurance. He didn't care about the constitutionality, only "fairness". The rates for him would be $200 more per month btw.
He agreed that our culture is entirely screwed up. But he didn't see that his mentality is a direct contributing factor.
Of course, he ended up blaming the Koch brothers for all of society's ills. I told him that he should go live in a real third world country for awhile and see real starving people, and that he'd reconsider what "fair" really is. He can't distinguish between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome.
Drive him to SE D.C. (Anacostia specifically) and leave him wandering the streets around midnight. Let him see first-hand the culture he enables. As a bonus, maybe he'll get to play the Knockout Game!
Ha, he lives in a very sheltered world (Austin). He doesn't delve outside of his comfort zone ever, and would not survive in the heart of darkness that is DC. I don't think that he's capable of surviving in anything that isn't an upper middle class, socio-econimcally homogeneous suburb.
I have no desire to ever visit DC again. Hive of scum and villainy.
The bankers have figured out work is for suckers...... but instead of going on welfare they are smarter - they go to the casino - with your money.
They throw it on red - tip back a martini - pocket their winnings and head off to the private room to bang high priced hookers and cram a few grams of coke up their noses.
And you know the best thing about being a 'welfare supported banker'? - if the ball lands on black --- you don't give a fuck --- because the taxpayer and bernanke will bail you out.
What's not to like?
What's the difference if there are no jobs? Seriously, if half the working age population is going to be permanently unemployed anyway why shouldn't they be happy or at least resigned to their lot.
So if they can do it, why shouldn't I?
There are jobs. But you have to have some skills and intelligence, and show up reliably. The days of making a middle class living slapping hubcaps on Buicks in an assembly plant 35 hours a week are gone.
The days of making a living are gone, period.
James, is that you?
At least dogs will fetch the newspaper for free food and board.
Stuck on Zero,
Obviously, you haven't met my Spaniel ... Lucy.
Obvious disinfo.
Its like if I called in to this program saying I was Exxon-Mobile and laughing diabolically about the billions of dollars in corporate welfare I get from US taxpayers.
You mean they don't?
No, they don't call in and brag about it ... but the execs pull the rip cords on their golden parachutes all the time laughing.
Bring back the workhouses.
Good enough for Parchman Farm, it's good enough for unqualified breeders.
I am not against weed, but it sure is strange that to make a buck by working, most folks are forced to take a piss test, which I think is bullshit BTW. Maybe a piss test should also in order if you want to make your money by being a slug and soaking the taxpayer.
The piss tests should be administered regularly and randomly to all judges, bureaucrats, and politicians who are on the public payroll, as well as private contractors who are paid from taxpayers funds.
Those who fail should be flogged mercilessly, then fired.....with prejudice.