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Sun, 12/01/2013 - 19:38 | Link to Comment resurger
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Khaylee Mamnoon!

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 19:41 | Link to Comment john39
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I would hope that the Iranians are watching their backs. 

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 19:45 | Link to Comment Canadian Dirtlump
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They are doubtlessly. As for that horse shit cartoon any country has the right to practice the full cycle of nuclea power including enrichment for civilian purposes. You want a rogue nuclear program, look to a place called dimona.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 19:53 | Link to Comment Freddie
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If you like your ICBM's, you can keep your ICBM's.

My only hope is that if Iran ever uses them, it is against the vile disgusting Saudis and their friends you mentioned in your post.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 22:15 | Link to Comment JohnnyBriefcase
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Any mention of Dimona is racist.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 01:07 | Link to Comment Urban Roman
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Let's see:

Trying to think of a middle eastern country with a nuclear program, and extremist religious views, always threatening its neighbors, with a gibbering maniac for a political leader?

Nope, can't think of one. Don't have a clue.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 01:20 | Link to Comment JohnnyBriefcase
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Good. Let's keep it that way unless you wanna get Kennedy-ed.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 01:30 | Link to Comment snodgrass
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Besides being anti-semitic, intolerant, Nazi-like and discriminatory. We all know the jews are always at risk of being holocausted.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 02:00 | Link to Comment JohnnyBriefcase
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Similar to americans and their government I feel it is unfair to equate jewish people with the israeli government.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 18:13 | Link to Comment safe as milk
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israel/aipac doesn't represent the jewish people anymore than the queen represents the british. yes, most of us have been brain-washed by zionist bullsh*t but a lot of us survived the ordeal relatively unscathed. israel was founded by secular utopian socialists but it started to go bad almost from the beginning and the 1995 rabin assassination was the end of hope much in the same way that november 22, 1963 doomed the usa.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:26 | Link to Comment Everybodys All ...
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A Middle East Nuclear arms race in 3,2,1.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:40 | Link to Comment Occident Mortal
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US is cutting and running from MENA thanks to Brakken and West Texas.

Throwing stones at the hornets nest as we pull out and China move in.

Thing is, this is very much a one way strategy, so hope it works out.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 21:37 | Link to Comment knukles
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Man, I think you're giving more credit that there's a plan at all, regardless of how good or bad it is, to a group of A-1 P-1 AAA across by all services, clueless, incompetent fuckups.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 00:10 | Link to Comment Ben Dover
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I think it all just reflects a growing American powerlessness. We've squandered everything from money to good will and have finally convinced the rest of the planet we are crazy and need to be ignored.

 

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 22:29 | Link to Comment Quantum Nucleonics
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Actually, Iran doesn't, without a monitoring program (which Iran isn't in compliance with), in accordance to the NNPT to which Iran is a signatory. If they withdraw from the treaty, as North Korea did. THEN, they can do whatever they want.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 23:09 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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Actually, Iran doesn't, without a monitoring program (which Iran isn't in compliance with), in accordance to the NNPT to which Iran is a signatory.

Please point out which parts of the NNPT Iran isn't in compliance with.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 23:24 | Link to Comment Quantum Nucleonics
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Disclosures and inspections, SCR 1696, etc...

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 23:34 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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Please be specific instead of rattling off talking points.

According to the article below, Iran is and has been in compliance with all disclosures and inspections required under the Nonproliferation Treaty. It additionally points out that the UN Security Council resolutions pertaining to this issue are in violation of the UN Charter.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MH16Ak03.html

Since you made the assertion that Iran was not in compliance with their NPT obligations, again I must ask you, specifically, what makes them noncompliant?

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 22:35 | Link to Comment Quantum Nucleonics
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Israel isn't a signatory to the NNPT, so they have every right to develop nuclear weapons.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 23:27 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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Israel isn't a signatory to the NNPT, so they have every right to develop nuclear weapons.

Not if they want to continue receiving US foreign aid. US law, for what it's worth, prohibits foreign aid to nuclear states which have not signed the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article22938.htm

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 01:47 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Iran isn't a signatory either. So...

How about making ALL ME countries signatories? Yeah, like that's gonna happen.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 06:03 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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Ummmm...... what?

Try not to fall behind here, but Iran ratified the NPT when it was still a US puppet under the shah. It has remained a compliant signatory since that time.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 10:43 | Link to Comment MSimon
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Signatory? Sure. Compliant? That is open to debate. The Saudis do have an opinion. They are buying nukes from Pakistan.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 14:38 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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Signatory? Sure. Compliant? That is open to debate.

No, it's open to propagandizing and fear mongering. According to the IAEA, though, who happen to be the people who've been inpecting Iranian nuclear facilities for decades, there's no debate.

The Saudis do have an opinion.

Yes, but it has nothing to do with Iran's nuclear program.

They are buying nukes from Pakistan.

And you have evidence of this, or is that just something you've heard repeated in various propaganda outlets?

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 23:06 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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As for that horse shit cartoon any country has the right to practice the full cycle of nuclea power including enrichment for civilian purposes.

Funny how a link to Friday's Iran Scary Nukular Stuff story precedes this empty-headed cartoon.

The current 'article' tends to confirm the conjecture, offered in my comment in the previous article, that the Iran scare story was the work of "a holiday weekend alternate Tyler who is filling in, keeping the lights on, and watering the plants."

That this cartoon was posted on a Sunday evening indicates it is a jab from the departing replacement Tyler. I wonder if he's the same one that periodically posts articles consisting of broad-brush smears against the US Postal Service. Hopefully things will return to normal when the genuine Tylers* return from Thanksgiving holiday.

Incidentally, in a move which goes beyond the requirements of the recent P5+1 deal, Iran has invited IAEA inspectors to visit the site of the under-construction Arak reactor. As Count Floyd would say, "Scary!"

 

*Note to genuine Tylers: this guy is a third-stringer at best. Surely you can find a better substitute to fill in.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 03:05 | Link to Comment SteelRust
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If you want a rogue nuclear program look at a place called ISRAEL...

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 10:46 | Link to Comment MSimon
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And their nukes are very llikey to work. Given all the Jews that got ours to work. That Jewish science can kill ya. Thank you Richard Feynman who wrote "You Just Ask Them".

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 21:26 | Link to Comment Caveman93
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Mercy!

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 19:41 | Link to Comment GtownSLV
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First time in years he didn't lie!

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 22:19 | Link to Comment Pure Evil
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The caption really should say:

 

Are you happy to see me, or is that a nuclear tipped ICBM in your pocket?

 

Of course, Ohomo would have no problem going down on either the rocket or the Mullah.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 19:41 | Link to Comment 22winmag
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Tee hee.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 19:49 | Link to Comment 0b1knob
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One good thing about Obama, perhaps the only good thing, is that he is not Israel's bitch.   The israeli pemier does not call him up and just tell him what to do like they did with Clinton.   Let the Israelis fight their own war.

Alternate caption:   "You met us over a table.   You will meet  Israel on a battlefield. Enjoy your 72 virgins and say hi to Osama."

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:06 | Link to Comment artless
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If they do "meet Israel on a battlefield" it will be because Israel attacks Iran in a flagrant violation of international law. But what else would be new.

Yes, Iran the bogeyman, the grave threat to planet Earth. That country that-unless I am mistaken-has not made an single act of aggression in oh, say 300 years? Top that with the fact that these folks cannot even refine their own oil or natgas (hence the nuke shortcut THAT 30 SOME YEARS AGO THE SHAH WAS PRAISED FOR STARTING TO PURSUE) but oh yes they will in no short order be able to build a fucking warhead and start lobbing them over to all "the infidels".

Yah, right.

I have to admit it isn't the best deal but you are correct and I have to give the Regime some credit.

Og course why the fuck we didn't just get the damn contact to build the things ourselves thereby killing two birds with one stone and makinga liitle scratch off the deal I will never know. Last time I checked the Russians are point on this thing aaaaaaannnnnnnddddd THEY don't have a great track record with nuclear power. Pretty sure the Frogs and The US are the best at that. But whatever.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:33 | Link to Comment Mi Naem
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"Pretty sure the Frogs and The US are the best at that. But whatever."

There are some folks in Japan who might disagree with that. 

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 21:29 | Link to Comment 0b1knob
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"flagrant violation of international law"

Unlike the US attacks on Iraq and Afghanistan which were approve by -uh - the UN or something and were based on an actual declaration of war passed by congress?

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 22:06 | Link to Comment P.T.Bull
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I don't mind leaving these countries to fight their own wars. But at the very least, the invasion of the american embassy was an act of agression. Just because a nutless president of us didn't choose to treat it as the act of war it was does not make it 'non agression'.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 23:17 | Link to Comment o2sd
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I suppose the overthrow of a democratically elected government by a brutal, oppressive military dictatorship wasn't an act of agression either?

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:18 | Link to Comment WonderDawg
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You're kidding, right? Not Israel's bitch? Give me a break. No one gets elected (installed) unless they are clearly Israel's bitch. The people pulling the strings make damn sure of that.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:48 | Link to Comment dcohen
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Shia or ordinary Sunni do not believe in the 72 virgins lie, this is a wahhabi belief (which has no basis in scripture) promoted by Israel as to demonize islam. The fake Wahhabi (who themselves have a substantial jewish Dönmeh root, see Shabbatai Tzve, fake jewish messiah turned muslim) preachers, bankrolled by Saudi Arabia, have realised that it is a good addition and incitament to the brainwashing of deranged jihadists.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 19:49 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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I wouldn't believe ANYTHING Obama told me without verification and a promise from JFC himself.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:21 | Link to Comment Ignatius
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OK, I'll give you $200 off on the undercoat.  You heard me, $200.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:48 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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Thanks but no thanks, unless it's a pork based undercoating.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 21:27 | Link to Comment Cacete de Ouro
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Looks like a Masonic handshake and all

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 22:22 | Link to Comment Pure Evil
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The Masonic handshake............

.......is that where they finger each other in the ass while gazing deeply into each other's eyes?

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 03:16 | Link to Comment Cacete de Ouro
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That sounds like the Barry-Reggie handshake

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 19:48 | Link to Comment urbanelf
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It's a good product.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 19:58 | Link to Comment emersonreturn
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it's hard not to love something netanhateyou disapproves. 

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 19:50 | Link to Comment stant
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and dont let the door hit you on the way out of the middle east

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 19:52 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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Dr. Hassan Rouhani United Nations Speech - 2013 |Zero sum game is over! Begin at 2.50 m

 

The Persians have survived 30+ YEARS without a Central Banking welfare handout. How is this possible during all the US sanctions? Did they build infrastructure internally opposed to repayment to a debt ledger never to be repaid. Did this country figure out, once you sign the dotted line, you can never recover the initial compounded interest rates to repay the principle? War, famine, terrorism, new regulations and outsourcing the labor to make sure you can’t pay off the note?

 

See how easy it is to read the formula?  BTW, they, <reading this post> will come after you, not me. Greed was never been in our DNA structure. They’ll figure it out once one of your peeps bodies is scraped off the roadside. You fuckers are so cornered. As they say, shit rolls downhill from here.. LOL

 

Blows kisses

 

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:22 | Link to Comment I am Jobe
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Iranians will not bow down. They know they were taken for a ride 30+ years ago and no more slavery to the world bank or IMF>

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 22:09 | Link to Comment P.T.Bull
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Iran is improverished for all but the elites. The standard of living has dropped a lot since the fundamentalists took over, and of course the sanctions are an inconvenience, not a significant impediment to selling oil.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 00:47 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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"Iran is improverished for all but the elites."

Sounds like another country in North America.

Also, were you talking about the fundamentalists in the US?

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 19:54 | Link to Comment jim249
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Where did O get a haircut like that?

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:03 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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It's a weave!

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 19:55 | Link to Comment StanleyMilgram
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"Reality" in one word..."Mosaddegh".... Does anyone have a memory longer than one week in this country, or is the lack of one what "blog" depend on? Time passes and its all "ok" now? Keep dreaming reptiles of Zion....guillotines are making a comeback...go long on that!

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:09 | Link to Comment I am Jobe
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Ask the Sheeples on the street about Iran and watch and listen to the ignorance

 

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 21:12 | Link to Comment W74
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You can almost discern the bleating sounds: "E-raaaaan Baaaa-yd; Iz-raaaa-l guuuuu-d"

The Media keeps you ignorant by design. How many countries other than Israel need to pay people to promote their country's image over the internet by paying people to post on their behalf?

Anyone who does not know or understand what the Hasbara and/or the JIDF are needs to find out....as in now.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 03:50 | Link to Comment Jack Burton
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I run into those clown all the time. The paid posters who have a huge script thay work off of. If you debate with success and prove a point these professional Israeli Public Relations posters can not find a counter point to, they will use the verbal abuse and racist card. Any news story having to do with Israel will find the comments section trolled by the organized israeli lie lobby. There are several here on ZH, though they change user names so often one must recognize them by their words. Since they read a script, they tend to follow a pattern.

Israel has hundreds of nuclear weapons targeted across the Middle East and Europe. It is not yet know if they target United States Cities yet. The leadership has vowed to bring the revenge of their god down upon everyone should they lose a war. This is pretty much known and admitted to by Israeli officials when they have had one too many drinks in them. They also admit their control over the US government policies and even over the US Federal Reserve. For such a samll nation, Israel has powers that can only be explained by a united Jewish world community working for the advance of Israeli policy. How can anyone dispute these simple facts? They can't be disputed so they must call you anti jew. Like I am anti christian because I don't like christian fundamentalist intrusion into political policies in the USA.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 13:36 | Link to Comment Trampy
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I run into those clown all the time. The paid posters who have a huge script thay work off of. If you debate with success and prove a point these professional Israeli Public Relations posters can not find a counter point to, they will use the verbal abuse and racist card. Any news story having to do with Israel will find the comments section trolled by the organized israeli lie lobby. There are several here on ZH, though they change user names so often one must recognize them by their words. Since they read a script, they tend to follow a pattern.

Yah.  Are you aware of the Harry Elmer Barnes and his works on Historical Revisionism where he compares and contrasts the "Historical Truth as First Casualty of War" of WW1 v. WW2, where that "school" of historians calls them instead the First Crusade and Second Crusade with "crusade" used instead of "World War ..."?  The most prominent of those were Beard, Chamberlin, and Tansill, all respected academicians who were all first ignored and then smeared.

Barnes refers to their stoges in university history departments and journals and newspapers as the Blackout Boys and "powerful minority advocates" and was afraid to utter the name of their main organization which I have recently referred to here as the Pro-Slander Legion but slippped up and also uttered their real name.  Oh my!

Please check out my recent posts, which include this:

 Same as it ever was. Historical Revisionism of WW1 and WW2 as a battle of valiant truth-Sametelling historians versus the plush OSS/CIA myth-telling “historians” as waged notably by the largely, and very sadly, forgotten Harry Elmer Barnes, 1889–1968. Many brave souls such as he have seen history through the lens of Historical Truth is First Casualty of War and lived to tell the tale, or at least published before their death. Big Mahalo to the CIA for renaming the quaint (and hifalutin) pre-JFK historical revisionism into the much more catchy (and contempo) conspiracy theory.

  1. I've never seen it mentioned anywhere, and am familiar with all the “usual suspect” websites, but there is a most fantastic book in my hands now which might very well be the single most enlightening book I have ever had the pleasure to read. This slim paperback explains, in the post-WW2 period going up to Viet Nam, how an entire generation (and now three?) of historians since 1937 have been brainwashed into mindlessly repeating statist propaganda that is patently false, in order to justify what is usually called The Good War. Barnes explains why WW2 was entirely unnecessary and could have been avoided if Churchill had not succeeded in conniving with FDR to wage war against Hitler on provocation and false pretenses, just as Hiroshima and Nagasaki were unnecessary to win peace with Japan, and just as Wilson's entrance in WW1 was unnecessary … where, in all three cases the U.S. war-making was done even though there was no threat to the domestic national security. Barnes is the most powerful advocate for peace I have ever beheld, yet outside of university history departments seems to be totally unknown, and yet for very good reason, because he exposes most of them as hacks, frauds, and overall tools of interventionist state propaganda. His books and those of the other “revisionists” he summarizes (Beard, Chamberlin, and Tansill) have been suppressed very effectively by what he calls “powerful minority advocacy groups,” which is an obvious reference to the "Pro-Slander Legion," which he seems afraid to name. Honest academic historians have been denigrated as kooks or worse in what he calls the blackout and then the smearout. Historical revisionism has been totally suppressed per what Barnes called The Bible of his then [1950s and 1960s] current times: Nineteen Eighty-Four. Get the below book while you still can! It is well worth any price. Forces of Evil wish it could be eradicated:

    Harry Elmer Barnes, Historical Revisionism: A Key to Peace, and Other Essays, With a Foreword by James J. Martin, CATO Paper No. 12, CATO Institute, San Francisco, CA, 1980.

 

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 19:59 | Link to Comment nmewn
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A theocracy, that unleashed the Basij on the Green Revolution and publicly hangs homosexuals in the town square...with nukes.

What could possibly go wrong?

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:07 | Link to Comment garypaul
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Are you talking about the US?

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 21:42 | Link to Comment nmewn
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The jury is still out on ObamaBasij crashing through doors to enforce the will of the state, they seem more content to just swipe the card, load up on Cheeto's and twerk.

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Wow ROTFL!...I'm gettin my ass kicked here in a "democracy" talking bad about a theocracy...lol.

Small minds ;-)

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 22:24 | Link to Comment Pure Evil
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Its hard to pull their brains out of their anal sphincter.

Best to just leave them in.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 22:36 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Or just sprinkle a little pixie dust on it to make all the reality of Iranian guards raping prisoners right before their execution just go away.

Yeah, perfectly normal government allowed activities...(sad lol).

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 22:35 | Link to Comment dexter_morgan
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Best not to argue with Iran defenders/jew haters. But, about the theocracy angle, since the monetary policy being imposed on us by the Fed for the last 100 years takes an amazing amount of faith to believe it works, we are kind of in a theocracy. Being ruled by a bunch of monetary theorists that would have us believe more and more debt and more and more printing is our salvation. And, if you dare question it you are a heretic and will lose your jobs and probably your invite to all the swanky parties.......

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 22:51 | Link to Comment nmewn
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A faith in men (politicians or idiot monetary theorists) is inherently fallible ;-)

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:22 | Link to Comment BigJim
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 A theocracy, that unleashed the Basij on the Green Revolution and publicly hangs homosexuals in the town square...with nukes.

What could possibly go wrong?

They might not use them if they're attacked?

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:43 | Link to Comment mrmister
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It is a land of chocolate rivers and candy houses. Nuclear energy is needed to power the milk factories.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 21:03 | Link to Comment W74
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Iran is greener and more beautiful than most geographically ignorant Amerifucks realize.  Iran's people are better looking than the average 200lb. GMO stuffed two-legged pig in this country and far more educated in general (America has more college grads, but what good is that?).

The literacy rate has trippled since the founding of the Islamic republic.  Women are treated with respect as long as they behave.  Should Western sanctions be lifted Iran's economy would beat out all of Eastern Europe and the Balkans in terms of PPP within half a decade. 

If the media did not present such a poor image of Iran tourism would increase over time and Westerners would not be kept ignorant of how beautiful Iran is.  And the joo media wants you kept ignorant.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 21:10 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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And if you wanted to go visit for purely touristy reason you'd end up on the Goobermits terrist list.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 21:38 | Link to Comment W74
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And likely interrogated for days upon your return to the United Security State of America before being drugged and/or offed.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 21:10 | Link to Comment nmewn
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I don't trust religious fanatics with power, muslims, persians or catholics or jooos...or even krishnas, especially the krishnas, the cymbals, pious chanting and regimentation give me heartburn as an individual...lol.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 22:16 | Link to Comment Freddie
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....publicly hangs homosexuals in the town square...with nukes.

Why would you hang homosexuals with nukes?  Do they die from the hanging and radiation?  Just askin.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 23:19 | Link to Comment nmewn
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lol...context.

>>>"A theocracy,<<< that unleashed the Basij on the Green Revolution and publicly hangs homosexuals in the town square...with nukes."

...what could possibly go wrong?

The State of Iran didn't have a problem with unleashing fucking murdering thugs on people who thought their votes actually counted (Green Revolution) no more than murdering people because of their sexuality.

No matter what one thinks of homosexuals (not a big promoter of it myself but) thats a little extreme to say the least.

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Show yourself coward, dispute anything I said.

I'll take the liberty to say, now...yes...I thought you wouldn't...a fucking coward, confronted with truth.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 01:56 | Link to Comment o2sd
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One nation, under God (sounds like a theocracy), currently involved in a War On Drugs, War On Poverty, War On Muslims, War On Other Currencies, War On People Who Disagree, that spies on all of it's citizens communications and has the largest per-capita prison population in the developed world, and the largest income disparity in the developed world ... with the majority of the world's nukes .. and firearms ... and nutters ....

What could possibly go wrong?

 

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 07:21 | Link to Comment nmewn
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The pledge of allegiance was written by a socialist in the interests of nationalism. The addition of God came in the 50's.

I have already said on many occasions I don't recite the pledge, in fact I got in trouble in public school for refusing to say it, even though I do believe in the Christian God.

Your soul is separate from the state.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 11:26 | Link to Comment MSimon
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I pledge to the Constitution. In public. You should see the looks I get.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 03:14 | Link to Comment o2sd
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,

Making you recite the pledge is unconstitutional in my not so humble opinion.

The truly sad part of the coup that removed Mossaddegh is that Iran was well on it's way to becoming the most secular state in the middle east. Democratic elections, higher education for men and women plus a whole raft of progressive changes. It was the US that bolstered support for the Shah by strengthening the Mullahs, who were funded by US intelligence. It was only when the US cut funding to the Mullahs that the 'Islamic Revolution' took place. The Iranian theocracy the USians moan about so ignorantly is entirely of their own government's making.

Iran's tragedy is that are sitting on oil, and the British/Americans think that oil belongs to them because they defeated and disbanded the Ottoman Empire in the first world war. Everything else is political theatre.

 

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:00 | Link to Comment FWM
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He knows what happened to Kennedy when he told another "group" they couldn't keep theirs.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:13 | Link to Comment Real Estate Geek
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Bill Hicks summed it up well, in only 1:05

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MRykTpw1RQ

 

 

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:20 | Link to Comment I am Jobe
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Yeap Hicks i correct. And they say go vote, yeah right. 

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:07 | Link to Comment I am Jobe
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Kohmeni is laughing

Shah family  is crying

 

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 22:35 | Link to Comment logicalman
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Shah's family legged it to parts unknown wiith large amounts of cash and are keeping their heads down, living an easy life.

Oh, they are laughing.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:09 | Link to Comment discopimp
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More like what O said to the Russian Ambassador "Ugg, look my pole ratings are really dropping and the ol' Peace Prize thingy is wearing thin, I really need a validation so I get the right narrative when they build my library, so yeah, no prob on the nukes."  

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:11 | Link to Comment logicalman
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Iran - signatory to NPT

Israel - not so much.

My case is resting.

Another thought - who the fuck made it OK for Merkuns to dictate to the rest of the world?

 

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:26 | Link to Comment WonderDawg
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Whoever has the biggest guns makes the rules.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:39 | Link to Comment forwardho
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He who has the Gold makes the rules.

A kingdom may be bought or sold, That truism has been around far longer than firearms.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 22:34 | Link to Comment Singelguy
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Unfortunately, most of the gold seems to be flowing to China. I wonder how much is left in Fort Knox.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 22:38 | Link to Comment logicalman
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None.

Wonder no more.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 22:22 | Link to Comment logicalman
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You are mostly correct, but a lot of committed individuals with small guns can make life difficult.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 23:33 | Link to Comment GeoffreyT
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US taking it up the arse in Afghanistan and Iraq (and in VietNam) would tend to give the lie to that.

Ditto -

  • France taking it up the arse in Indochina;
  • France taking it up the arse in North Africa (Egypt under Napoleon through to Algeria and Morocco under de Gaulle);
  • Belgium taking it up the arse in the Congo; and
  • Britain taking it up the arse in Afghanistan (1830s - Auckland's Folly and all that, Corky old boy)...

right back to 

  • Rome taking it up the arse at Carrhae when Crassus decided he wanted to take Mesopotamia; and
  • Rome (again) taking it up the arse at the Teutoberger Wald.

 

All of these (and there are hundreds more) are the cases in point: an insurgency with knowledge of the terrain and a willingness to force an invader into a war of attrition, can never lose unless the invader does the whole "Carthago delenda est" bit and commits genocide. Even then, it means the cost-benefit calculus of occupation turns negative almost the moment that decision is made.

Obviously the parasitic cunts at the top of the political class make  out lkike bandits regardless of the direction of any conflict - that's what wars are for (to enrich megalomaniacs and their cronies).

 

But things are way worse for the actual societies on which the Cheneyite scum parasitise: the moment a 'superpower' is known to be incapable of actually enforcing their will, the 'superpower' is fucked and next thing a big hairy barbarian turns up at your gate with a sign saying "Vae Victis". Or worse still, nobody will pay a premium for their bonds.

 

Ask a Pom who was alive in the first dozen years of the 20th century, what it felt like to live through England's decay as a credible world power. (OK, so most of those folks are dead... but some of them wrote memoirs: pick one by a non-politician and see the parallels to Gibbon's "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" or Norwich's "Byzantium").

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 23:41 | Link to Comment The_Prisoner
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"Obviously the parasitic cunts at the top of the political class make  out lkike bandits..."

I see what you did there...

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 00:53 | Link to Comment BidnessMan
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This is my Rifle, this is my gun ......

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:50 | Link to Comment FWM
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Joe Sobran: "Isolationist: Someone who thinks America should behave like other countries."

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:31 | Link to Comment orangegeek
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What's that on your chin Barry?

 

Were you meeting quietly with Putin too?

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 21:07 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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It's Nuttyahoo on his chin, Putin on his back.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:50 | Link to Comment Future Jim
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OK. I got it now. It's great when jews have nuclear weapons, and terrible when muslims have nuclear weapons, but that's not racist - because CNN doesn't call it that.

 

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 21:55 | Link to Comment toady
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That's easy. Muslims are inherently evil, and the Jews are gods children.

Duh!

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 05:13 | Link to Comment lakecity55
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Israel is the underdog, surrounded by Islam. Everyone likes the underdog.

Now, when their country was created by UN mandate, did the Israelis BUY the land they have or did they steal it? Were the guys there already WILLING sellers?

(rhetorical question)

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 11:31 | Link to Comment MSimon
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Well the Jews were buying the land. Then in 1948 the Arabs decided to steal it back. You can look it up.

 

In any case the rule of international law is: if you can hold it it is yours. Otherwise the USA has a lot of returning to do.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 23:15 | Link to Comment therevolutionwas
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You go over to the WND site and try to talk sense into those folks,  A tough sell. 

 

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 20:57 | Link to Comment Hubbs
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I don't get it. When Obama said " if you like your plan, you can keep it."  Well, in a few months NO ONE will like their plan, and NO ONE will want to keep it.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 00:49 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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the "Arak (Heavy-Water Plutonium [P239]) Nuclear Reactor" is the, 'Thorn in the Rose-Garden?' that everybody seems to step on (like walking on glass shards while barefoot in the garden of utopia) knowing its in plain site? just happens-- but does it mean we/ they can't enjoy the labors of the P5+1 detente?

ARAK is disquieting to the moderate Iranian's to say the least. they don't need it, period! but, to say too the hardliners that Arak will be put in (jmo) animated-suspension, would literally be committing political-suicide for rouhani, khanenei, and zarif!

what russia will do is delay the modification and stall... while time passes-- Arak will have become a non-issue. why? because the fruits of labor for peace and trust with the west will have paid-off handsomely. both sides... all sides, will win... building out iran's vast infrastructure ( iran is huge and their population has diminished dramatically) with all P5+1 getting a piece of the "Peace Dividend".

again,... Arak will continue as if they (iranian's) seem to be taunting the west, with work shortages, and material delays on the facility, but... it will be just show to satisfy the hardliners in iran that can't seem to forget the past and forever mired in self-immolation?!?

jmo 

Ps.  as i've said before,... Obama gets a big "High-Five"-- 'Fist Punch', GRAT's for this once in a lifetime (at least in mine) achievement. 

 

 

 

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 13:04 | Link to Comment Trampy
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Mon, 12/02/2013 - 05:09 | Link to Comment lakecity55
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...which means he lied again and the Mullah is in for a big surprise.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 21:49 | Link to Comment toady
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That's a good one.

Anyone else think the 'if you like your 'whatever' you can fuck it' has jumped the shark?

I guess I better get used to a few more years of that shit...

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 21:57 | Link to Comment dexter_morgan
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Another step in the fundamental change that was promised and IS being delivered.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 22:05 | Link to Comment alentia
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Only moron still thinks Iran deal and tensions about nuclear programm. It is all about oil producing and protection and that is why SA is furrious. As long as Iran is to play US$ game and be #1 oil producer in the world, SA will suck big one, as there is no escape for them with all the US treasures they have on hands.

Guess what.. It will be now time for SA to start selling oil for euros. Once they try to declair it, it will appear that they have nuclear programm as well and sanctions will be imposed immediately or will US accuse SA of child malesting or rape of the whole US?

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 22:22 | Link to Comment DoolieDoink
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But don't mention Israels 300 nuclear weapons as you know I can't talk about that !!!!

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 23:18 | Link to Comment earleflorida
Sun, 12/01/2013 - 23:47 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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Those are funny because they're true.

Sun, 12/01/2013 - 23:44 | Link to Comment Constitutional ...
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There is a very simple law to apply: all U.N. resolutions should apply to all countries including Israel.

It is the twisting and turning of the international community trying to evade that difficult confrontation: Israel owning the world's biggest stockpile of  nuclear weapons obtained covertly, illegally. By which Israel practises nuclear blackmail.

President John Kennedy rejected Israel's request for nuclear armament, and he issued an executive order for real silver money in keeping with American tradition, something independent of the international money changers.  And we know what happened to him.

Israeli Mordechai Vannunu is a prisoner of that state, denied his request to move abroad after serving his official prison sentence.

 He was jailed after being kidnapped by Mossad in Paris. That happened after he revealed Israel's secret nuclear program to a British newspaper owned by a zionist, Rupert Murdoch who betrayed his trust.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 00:49 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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Down-voted because the UN should close its doors permanently.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 01:12 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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Question!  What if the UN were to move-out (pack-up-and-relocate) of the US into a more (???) neutral, friendly, and hospitable (and not central europe!(but, more like way up north in the scandinavian countries?) country.

 Granted the US intimidates and it really has come time to look for 'Greener Pastures' with less backbiting a stones-throw away.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 09:48 | Link to Comment therearetoomany...
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The UN should move out of the US. 

The US should leave the UN.

The land should be used to house the homeless.

Once the UN is out of the US it will fail as the completey useless and wholly corrupt organiztion it is.

But, what will the prostitues on the east side do?

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 01:51 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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It's time to give Nutty 'N Yahoo a hook, if not a political Bris that goes all the way to his short & curlies.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 02:52 | Link to Comment Joe A
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Really a smart idea to put nuclear weapons in the hands of religious imbecils (warning: pleonasm).

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 09:40 | Link to Comment roadhazard
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I'm all for Iran having nukes. I can't go through being told again that, "WE HAVE TO GET THOSE WMD'S."

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