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Birinyi, Sonders, & Rukeyser Celebrate The "Magical Stock Market Environment" In 1999

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"Surely this can't go on forever", asks a pensive Lou Rukeyser on New Year's Ever 1999, to which a youthful Liz-Ann Sonders replies ever-exuberantly, "this is a magical environment for the stock market, for the year 2000, things look terrific." The other guests in this wonderfully brief moment of deja vu from the peak of the previous bubble are just as cock-a-hoop, "the danger signs are still a ways off," and none other than Laszlo Birinyi concludes, "the individual is flush with cash, and continues to be positive," confirming once again that the money-on-the-sidelines fallacy is just that.

 

 

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Mon, 12/02/2013 - 21:38 | 4208441 fonzannoon
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I forget how much QE they were up to per month back then.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 21:41 | 4208456 Oldwood
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Its almost like discovering the the earth actually does revolve around the sun to acknowledge that we can actually just print money now and really don't have to work for it. Thousands of years of struggle for no reason. We could have just "printed" our way to prosperity. Its a glorious new day! Nothing but sunshine and happy faces everywhere.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 21:56 | 4208478 Grande Tetons
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http://www.imdb.com/year/1999/

 

Read em en weep. 

 

Art imitating life. This...NOW... would be the afterlife. 

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 22:23 | 4208607 markmotive
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Bubbles everywhere today.

Just look at the Toronto condo market.

http://www.planbeconomics.com/2013/12/toronto-condo-collapse-2014.html

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:15 | 4209095 Scarlett
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you have to consider the other hypothesis:  hyperinflation could be beggining.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 21:59 | 4208506 fonzannoon
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Oldwood you know better. I know you do. The assertion that those freshly printed dollars ever see the light of day in a middle class home is false. They wind up on the PD's balance sheets and are used to.....you know all this.

It's different. It's communism with a side of NFL and Buffalo wild wings.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 22:36 | 4208662 Oldwood
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Damn! And I was going to print up some of those smiley face stickers to put on everything. How come I'm always the last one on the happy train?

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 22:09 | 4208553 fonestar
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And so what happens when all the markets fall apart and maybe we get the deflation first that Maloney and others talk about?  Maybe both silver and Bitcoin is $5?  I can't imagine the bitching going on here then....

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 22:13 | 4208570 fonzannoon
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dude what do you think is going on? In the real economy we are getting massive deflation right now. Not in the way everyone likes to view it. But the deflation is there via people going tits up. The fed was trying to tackle it through the stock market, but now they are going to have to up the ante soon enough.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 00:34 | 4209035 Professorlocknload
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Bitching at five buck silver? More like partying hardy!

All my investment decisions would be done for me.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 22:19 | 4208590 disabledvet
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"Jupiter" was his name actually. That's who was "discovered" in 1999. http://www.cigaraficionado.com/webfeatures/show/id/6151 "there was no cash on the sidelines" then indeed. But that is not true this time around is it. Hmmmm. "instead of running to the Treasury he ran to gold." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter_(mythology) do we now find ourselves running "to the absence of gold"? the price has been falling for some time now. it must be because there is too much gold then. Silver? Copper? no you say? hmmm. No to debt as well? Money? Cash? Dolares? Still not good enough? Fine. Bitcoin it is then...

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 21:39 | 4208447 FieldingMellish
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yeah... but... it's different this time.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 21:54 | 4208489 max2205
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The fed always does too little or too much and too soon or too late...resulting in total fucking chaos

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 21:44 | 4208460 TrustWho
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I miss Rukeyser. Nice historic pre-peak video that shows all the others as talking heads...assholes.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 22:48 | 4208710 mofreedom
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In college (later 90s) we had to watch his show and alternate doing a presentation on it each week.

In same class, I went long ebay and shorted sears.  Won second place.

In real world times, I earned last place but at least I tried.

Amen.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 21:46 | 4208464 Stanley Lord
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Liz Ann Sonders got her first job on Wall Street because Marty Zweig thought she was hot and hired her.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 21:52 | 4208486 Son of Captain Nemo
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avec knee pads.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 21:56 | 4208501 long-shorty
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Charles Schwab is now actively promoting Liz Ann Sonders in one of their new commericals.

If ever there is a good barometer of market sentiment, it is Charles Schwab commercials.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 22:21 | 4208596 disabledvet
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she was hot then and still is now. Obviously it would be interesting to see her play with boys in these here parts.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 22:56 | 4208732 mofreedom
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I don't know, she's got that New York inbred retard look in her eyes, sort of horse face but not too horse face (still do her) or maybe it's just the heroine.  Must just be me, ME likey pure bred scandies.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 21:48 | 4208474 ParkAveFlasher
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At the time of this showing I was getting a forehead massage at the Limelight.  Looks like this crew is on the same ecstasy I was.   I didn't get that way by resting on my laurrrwwwwlllllls.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 21:55 | 4208494 Bangin7GramRocks
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Limelight was great!

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 22:05 | 4208538 fonzannoon
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I think I saw you at Webster Hall.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 22:13 | 4208571 Bangin7GramRocks
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It was probably The Tunnel.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 22:34 | 4208643 frankTHE COIN
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It was at the Garage in Soho. On the right night of course.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 21:48 | 4208475 Jim B
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As they say, BTFATH!

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 21:52 | 4208483 larz
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Mon, 12/02/2013 - 21:57 | 4208499 uno
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thanks for exposing these clowns, please continue posting thes wall street idiots wonderful track records.  Does Zerohedge get more unique viewers now than CNBS? and how has the growth of zerohedge hits vs. CNBS freefalling viewship compare over the last few years.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 00:47 | 4209061 Bunga Bunga
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CNBC will soon lauch the daily Bitcoin Show with Jim Cramer. Those bitches will do everything.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 22:03 | 4208527 surf0766
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More words on the fake low inflation nonsense.  It never ends.. Same shit different network different time

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 22:16 | 4208582 RSDallas
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Priceless!

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 22:27 | 4208628 Downtoolong
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Living proof for the 100,000th time that it’s not enough to just be a bullshitter to make in as a market maven. The necessary talent is to be able to bullshit while maintaining the poise and confidence of an athlete who just won a gold medal in the Olympics.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 22:28 | 4208632 RichInWestwood
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Just classic.  Valueless sheep pundits.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 22:35 | 4208660 swanpoint
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That's some brilliant post there ZH! Effin' Brilliant! The clip really shows the arrogance of the time; that "timeless" arrogance. MOAR!

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 22:51 | 4208686 El Hosel
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"Magical", but ..." Might be a mild correction"... Thank god that kind of ( correction ) thing is not allowed in the New Normal.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 22:40 | 4208681 chump666
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History and stupidity as it f*cking rhymes.  Awesome post ZH!

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 23:25 | 4208858 khakuda
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I knew Liz Ann Sonders back at that time and can tell you she had absolutely no clue. She was touting the virtues of tech stocks all the way to the top and over-the-top. Anyone who didn't like tech socks she said "didn't get it". Campbell cowperthwaite, owned then by US Trust, the firm she worked for was up about 90% in 1999, before imploding after riding tech stocks all the way down, giving back all that performance and then some, losing the majority of their client assets. Charles Schwab then acquired US Trust and closed her division down, firing everyone except her. Somehow she managed to keep a job and become the head strategist at Schwab where she remains today.

It is scary that someone as incompetent as she has made millions and millions of dollars after losing clients everything.

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 23:33 | 4208885 Wahooo
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That's fucked up. Happens all the time in that business, though, doesn't it?

Mon, 12/02/2013 - 23:29 | 4208872 garypaul
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Darn, I was hoping they'd get a leg shot of Liz

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 00:04 | 4208962 ebworthen
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Same bullshit then as now; "inflation is low, that's a magical environment for stalks"

Yup, nothing but rainbows and honey.

Until 2001, 2008, ...

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:57 | 4209160 Bunga Bunga
Tue, 12/03/2013 - 02:12 | 4209188 BullyBearish
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Schwab trots her out once a quarter to tell us that things are great and to stay fully invested.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 03:22 | 4209251 Sizzurp
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Deja vu  http://www.bloomberg.com/video/charles-schwab-s-liz-ann-sonders-on-markets-yellen-yJQivrcbQaGCLPDNtBTSQg.html

They always sound the same, and the market always goes up.  If fundamentals are so awesome, stop QE and see what happens.  It's all bs, and these people actually get paid to sit around and discuss how wonderful the fed is for coming up with the magical idea of printing money.  See this central planning is really easy afterall.  Just kneel before the geniuses at the fed and pray the money falls your' way.  No need to actually produce anything somebody needs with sweat and tears.  This is the new age of free money.  Why on earth didn't we come up with this sooner?

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 09:58 | 4209703 Shizzmoney
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Lesson: Don't ever trust a guy in a tuxedo.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 17:06 | 4222760 dcohen
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Laszlo Birinyi's voice, ruthless torture tool - imagine being stuck in an echo chamber listening to Birinyi's BS for all eternity, that is how I imagine hell to be.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 17:22 | 4222794 ZeroBoBo
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Awwwww shucks. No Rudiger Dornbush yapping about the never-ever-ever-EVER-ending-virtuous-cycle-cause-Greenspan?!?!

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