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Obamacare Website Costs Top $1 Billion
Although the GAO has made clear the limitations of its data, its $394 million tally for work through March 31 has been widely cited as the price tag for the entire launch of the "Affordable" Care Act. However, as Bloomberg's Peter Gosselin finds, looking at the full range of ACA-related contracts for just 10 firms, more than $1 billion worth of contract awards. Perhaps even more mind-blowing is that more than one third of the funds going to the top contractors working on the federal exchanges were awarded in the last six months - even as it was clear the project was failing.
As Bloomberg's Peter Gosselin notes,
In a typical IT project, spending ramps up to a peak, then trails off during the final phase.
This was not the case for the Obamacare websites,
The torrent of late spending — almost $352 million of $1 billion in awards to the top 10 contractors — indicates the magnitude of the work still to be done as opening day approached, and helps explain the information technology problems that have dogged the exchange system since its launch.
So, the government throws more taxpayer money at it...
In aggregate, the 10 firms won a third of their health law-related contract dollars in the six months ended Sept. 30.
Besides showing the rush to issue contract awards in the months leading up to the opening of exchanges, the BGOV analysis also revealed that the implementation of the health law is costing substantially more than generally is portrayed.
Although the GAO made clear that its study focused solely on the costs of implementing the federal exchanges and the data services hub, its $394 million tally for work through March 31 has been widely cited as the price tag for the entire launch of the law. But in looking at the full range of ACA-related contracts for just 10 firms, the BGOV analysis found more than $1 billion worth of contract awards.
And still they admit things are not going well...
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ZeroCare will cost trillions when it's all sad and done. Lives will be cost too.
I could have built that site on an iPhone app and would have only charged Michelle 20 mil.
Is there an incentive to get it done right the first time, or is the incentive to screw it up so then the company can get paid extra to fix it?
American made, boys!
Oh wait... no, hm... Canadian made! CGI Federal.
That's a billion dollars going to the worst coders and managers.
Gov => inverted meritocracy.
Why would anyone want to actually finish this project when the gravy train is that rich?
Furthermore, why would anyone actually want to touch that codebase? It's a kamikaze mission.
repeat after me : CLOWARD. PIVEN. STRATEGY.
Shit, you could get a whole half day of QE for that $1B that OZerocare costs.
Game is call it "Catch of Falling Dagger". As more and more rush to complete inoperable project in unrealistic time frame with incompetent management, expense is not increase linear, but on asymptotic trajectory.
... but what is Boris know!?
But in this case its win-win for all, there never can be a loser,...
It's a game that everyone can grow to love :)
I'll take my chances with Nigerian hackers before I'd ever visit healthcare.gov.........I don't care how much money they're dumping into it.
I'm taking my chances with Nigerian hackers when I visit healthcare.gov
Fixed that for you
You are take chance with Kenyan fraudster when is visit Healthycare.gov. Fix that!
Laundering taxpayer monies into political operative funds used to promote socialism in two easy steps.
Fed claims 11,000 births over deaths every day for the last decade. Their maf skills are in the bidet with their integrity and their dentures, but this crime rakes in more congress cons, vote fraud and minimum 2.5 QE additional phony per capita expenses.
Do you know how many F35's you could buy for 1 bill?....3/4's....ain't no big deal bitchezzzzz
Yes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3hY1eagq88
Bingo!
"That's a billion dollars going to the worst coders and managers."
Naw, it was prolly about 10 mil that was wasted on the code talkers and their fwantastic bar tabs. The rest may have been cweverly distwibuted to the Oscambacare front companies under several fake social numbers benefiting the soetero-cia COMPANy some way maybe? The level of scam is mind blowingly surreal for sure. Sez the flea butt-bitter, scratch my arse, and isa do youza back. Or, here is ten million to micheels friend/front company, and theyza sends us back the rest, otay!
Easy peazy to finger out. Follow the money-god trail. Whoza gotza all da billions of dollars now?
If memory serves CGI is the company that did the Canadian Long Gun Registry. If so a billion is just a taste of things to come, they didn't ever start collecting yet.
There is no incentive to "screw it up", because that company's competitor will be rewarded the cleanup work. There is tremendous incentive to increase the amount of work performed by showing good enough progress to be awarded follow-on work for these typically incremental contracts. This works much like the non-government world; except, the government steals the money from citizens by force; whereas, in private business, customers have to be persuaded that a given product is worth trading for their stored labor(money).
Ill take option 2
The millionollarhomepage.com just sits there and does nothing too, but it cost only a million dollars.
but not at gunpoint. Big difference.
"just sits there and does nothing too"
Actually, it is doing it's job most excellently. It is a giant vacuum cleaner designed to ONLY suck the victim for all the personal information anyone is stupid enough to feed into it, so as to profit from that info, as well as totally control the victim later. Imagine telling the chinese all you are doing, and giving them all your personal information like most do on face-cia-book.
Subliminal message on the oscambacare site: Thank you sucker...wanna do it again?
Replace Obama with a cracked out Flavor Flav and put him in the White House with a team of midgets, and he could run the US better and get Obamacare off the ground!
It's already sad.
We are already done, over and out.
Cause We the Living cost too much.
No Bama.
What better path to a "5 Year Plan," in the face of retiring baby b00mers, than to control their Sick Care?
No problem , just print some more.
WHO cares?, it's a POS,designd as a POS.Only the POOR, and the RICH can afford it, it will be an EPIC FAIL for Americans, and a winner for the Commie Bstd.
And no security designed in at all.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101225308
This is a billion dollar booondoggle. Add billions more with overtime and extra charges.
Hackers need to get in and really F it up. Calling Valerie Jarrett to do political damage control.
Thought experiment:
If my corporate DLP policy prevents leakage of Social Security numbers, but I am forced to "leak" SS#, and other private data to youcankeepyourplan.com, am I liable, when youcankeepyourdoctor.com is hacked, and all that data is leaked?
By the way, I scooped CNBC on that by two weeks: http://thebullelephant.com/healthcare-gov-is-an-identity-theft-machine/
Of course I get zero credit for it, but hey.
Otool Care. We sign _u_ Up and shit!
I'm sure Moochelle's friend from college is enjoying the taxpayer graft for producing a failure of a website.
"I'm sure Moochelle's friend from college is enjoying the taxpayer graft for producing a failure of a website."
Yes Sir, Colonel K!
There seems to be a lot of irons in this fiery scam to rip off the American tax payer. Remember when that clown bidder said, "this is a big f'n deal?"
Yeah, a tax, as the corrupted court of hell decreed.
NOW HEAR THIS!!
THAT means a TAX on every single thing any one can buy (to keep the middle puppet profiteers happy) and lotza BIG KICK BACKS to the BIG NAZI FHARMA AND MEDICAL MAFIA INSURE-CIA-ANCE COMPANY(S).
Many irons in the fire. Go figure.:
http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/12/02/the-shocking-truth-about-who-wr...
I wonder what the second most expensive website is... I know it is .gov
Most gov IT systems end up being money sinkholes for years and years as new legislation has to be coded in.
At least the whores in Nevada like Obamacare. That's gotta be worth something...
http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2013/12/02/legalized-prostitutes-at-nevadas-bunny-ranch-back-obamacare/
I've done the Nevada "whore house run". I'll send you the map. I never did the lady, and she thaught me a thing or two.
The toughest part was leaving Tonopah back through the White Mountains!
Things I did as a kid seemed trivial. Now they're just plain "respected". Shootin birds for kin and all. (Dinner and such)
Sound Familiar?
Naw, never did the whore house run in Nevada, although the trip to DC several years back was kinda like that. Ah, so young, so foolish...
Nevada = DC? Hopefully your Nevada trip was less painful, involved the correct orifice, and did not require KY applied to the preferred DC orifice.
Who did you do if not the lady?
I wonder if they get 1099 or W-2's?
Obongo cares, ok? Obongo_care(s)•org
shit ... that's one big gravy train ...
Imagine the efficiency, the savings on healthcare costs, the envy of the world this program will be once you manage to get signed up..
Is there anything this admin has touched and not turned to shit?
There was a time when awarded a .gov contract, performancen reviews, and completion dates actually mattered.
A billion dollars....
"Is there anything this admin has touched and not turned to shit?"
Golf seems only casually harmed.
Yeah, but look at all the jobs being created to administer ACA and make sure everyone fills out their paperwork correctly.
The cost of the website makes sense since the statists will say we have invested too much money into Obamacare to repeal the legislation
Here's hoping all the politicians and crony capitalists gets what's coming to them
They will. Unfortunately, it will happen the same time we get what is coming to us for allowing them to get this far.
One billion......chump change.......the Bernank and Janet can print that in an afternoon.
FU Bernanke and FU Janet
I wonder if any of the contractors will ever state "Led the software development efforts on the Affordable Care Act website project" on his/her resume.
Sure; the next secretary of energy.
<strong>Guillotine</strong>
There where's my million bucks?!
"Ignorance of the Constitution and 'following orders' is no excuse."
For the money they spent on Obamacare website, every american could of had free open heart surgury.
Or a lobotomy, but, let's not give them any ideas.
Fuck everything is going up except gold.
Pretty Much Doc. So what are we going to do about it! I'm no criminal! I'm willing to lay the wood!
ZH has grown exponentially. Time to wakeup.
"I'm willing to lay the wood!"
We knew that from your confession on the Nevada whorehouse run.
"Fuck everything is going up except gold."
Dr.
CHANGE!!!!!
Seems to me blowing out a billion bucks on O-care isn't a new record for .gov tech waste. Some years ago, the Congress graced about the same 1 billion on the IRS to integrate their legacy systems. The money was spent but the systems still didn't talk to each other. 'Course it may be they could 80% talk to each other, so good enough for government work to be labeled a "success".
GAO, ACA, IRS, NSA, HHS, EIEIO all probably need to update the number of lines of code run Obummercare.gov to 1 BILLION Lines! Gotta make it look like we be getting our $$'s worth... bend over and assume the position.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-28/obama-built-behold-obamacare-al...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTmXHvGZiSY
Why not just forbid the government from owing any computers? There is no fucking way it can improve anything they do and it can multiply the downside by about 1200X.
Impeach. Prosecute. Sentence. Execute as needed. Repeat until the stain is gone.
It's not going to happen. The uS will never be repaired back to even a semblance of its former glory, and I'm not referring to any time in the last century. Everyone has been seduced. A few that wake up and remove the matrix cable won't fight, they 'll just bitch and moan over what they see and eventually take the blue pill. This theft and control oligarchy will not be overthrown or diminish.
Secede or die........
As with your point, seccesion will never happen either. Too many people watchin' "Owww, My Balls!"
If master contractor Michael Holmes ("Holmes on Homes") took over control of this boondoggle, he would say the following: "Tear it all down." Obamacare has now become a money pit. Cheaper to toss out the beta technology that doesn't work and start from scratch. The logical first step is to allow any U.S. worker over the age of 55 with enough working "quarters" to qualify for Social Security (if they were age 65) to have the option to apply for Medicare.
Job creation, right?
Hey, someone has to pay for Google Glass. It sure as hell isn't going to be Google.
If Google ever fixes the webstite they will probably be allowed to start marketing GG on it as some kind of cataract therarpy (with free porn!)
Obamacare makes me very angry, very angry indeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlVoD17y5y4
Just dress up the front-end with some HTML5 and hope no one notices that it still doesn't work on the back-end.
I wonder how many doctors and nurses you could provide for 1 billion dollars?
Only a billion? Shit here in Canada we spent that on the gun registry data base that I could have written on my laptop with excel in about 20 minutes for nothing. Funny thing is that in Canada not that many people even own a gun.
Oh and the next government got elected and got rid of the thing because it was a huge invasion of privacy on top of being a costly failure. Sound familiar? Never underestimate the ability of a government to waste money.
The Obamacare cronies can milk this baby for billions and have it take years.
A boondoggle project. Keep saying it will be completed in a month and extend it out years.
They can still be working on it when Obama's term is up. Do everything manually with a the Obamacare call center. Hire thousands of call center workers to fill out paperwork and then have someone type it in manually. Like the French or the Soviet union operated.
And in the meantime, they can steer everybody over to the private healthcare advisers who just happen to be the people that worked on writing the law.
And you thought Obummer was a Socialist. He's creating jerbs!
A billion dollar website is nothing as a cost for the Washington D.C. globalists to take over the United States of America. They are going to have to pay much more.
Peel off the mask and the "globalists" you refer to are actually communists.
Or...tryannical maniacs. Same difference.
Because...
For the size of the project and what has happened, no surprise here and easily enough worth a half a million before any addition work was done. Consumers and government are getting a real cold hard lesson on the complexities and expense of IT Infrastructures today. Hospitals have been complaining for a long time about the expense so it's rolling over here now.
The people in charge were the wrong folks as we all know I and feel have some self perception issues of what they think they can handle properly. This is so far over their heads, sad. I think time for a re-grouping as it will be a while before the sites gets any better as there are portions that need to be re-engineered. Oracle already brought their own server in which I said they should have been the main contractor anyway instead of what we have with open source unfinished code written to integrate with some of the Oracle modules that CMS did use.
http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2013/11/accountable-care-actneeds-to-take...
Failure of plans or planned failure?
I think we should MANDATE each Obama voter drop their coverage if they have it and sign up..
Just like they want to mandate what I can eat and drink
It'll be 2Billion and still wont work pretty soon. This is what happenns with the corrupt Chicago style government and a know-nothing Barry-O the boy community organizer at the helm. And ya know what - he would still get re-elected and the demo faithful will still love him. We are (and have been) effed as a nation since Wilson/FDR/Johnson and now Bamy.
I never understood how creating and legalizing price collusion through a mandatory monopolistic exchange could benefit anyone except those guaranteed profits through the exchange and the parasites (politicians) that feed off of the offal of moopolists.
Well, this isn't fair analysis. The money spent wasn't to put together a website. It was to pay back campaign supporters. Politics is expensive. Just glad to see taxpayers are so willing to chip in for such a worthy administration.
Watching Greta Van Susteren (I don't normally promote Fox or any other MSM, but she seems to have a good handle on Obamacare) last night, I figured it's just going to get worse and that my original thought, that the ACA might actually succeed in the government bringing itself down, might just come true.
Consider:
The website is still not operating efficiently (many reports of "glitches" continue and many are being pushed into the waiting "queue.")
The back end of the site is not transmitting data to the insurance companies.
Security experts point out at least seven vulnerabilities where personal information can be easily stolen, still not secure.
The prescriptive nature of the law has forced cancellations of over 5 million policies (you can't keep your plan).
There's no competition among insurance companies.
Many hospitals and doctors are going to be outside the system due to lower payouts by .gov.
The IRS is incapable of eventually handling the boondoggle of credits, fines, authenticating policy coverage, etc.
ACA depends on a large number of healthy individuals signing up for expensive policies (not going to happen)
More people are signing up for Medicaid than individual plans
With the lack of new individual policy-holders, costs will be shifted back to group policies (wait until the government unions start screaming).
Doctors are already bailing on insurance and Medicaid because reimbursement prices are so low.
Conclusion: a massive disruption in the medical and insurance industries. Doctors, the vast majority of whom are committed to the Hippocratic oath which compels them to treat the ill and infirm without caveat, are already opting out of the insurance-government system, accepting cash and/or time payments from individuals. Hospitals will fail under the weight of regulations, paperwork, etc.
Doctors will continue to give medical care, regardless of government dictates. The government will be shown to be an impairment to health care and shoved out of the way, along with the insurance companies. There will eventually be two kinds of health care: the public (shitty, underfunded and government-sponsored), and private, where most people with money will go.
It's the beginning of the end of consent of the "governed." Almost all people, rich or poor, smart or dumb, will agree to being governed by a just system. When the system is exposed as unjust, people will peel away, slowly at first, faster as attitudes coalesce. The ACA accelerates the process of bringing down the corrupt government.
This may not be the transformative change Obama promised, but it very well may, by its own unintended consequences, save the nation.
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I just wanted to say, after reading this diatribe,
FUCK YOU JOHN ROBERTS, I HOPE ALL IN YOUR FAMILY AND YOU ROT IN HELL...
The Obanana administration is going supernova. Spectacular!
The Obama administration said that the principal contractors responsible for the federal government's troubled health insurance website.
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