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Thailand Police & Military Step Aside As Anti-Government Protesters Reach PM's Office; Declare Victory

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As the "peoples' coup" in Thailand gets the blessing of the country's Military leader (who stated he would not intervene), the police have also undertaken an unexpected reversal of strategy by removing barriers from the heavily fortified police and government buildings. The government no longer wants to confront the protesters in the 3rd of fighting with 3 dead and at least 230 injured. As AP reports, the protesters have made no attempts (yet) to enter Government House but are milling around the entrance. The government has 'asked' people to stay inside and police helicopters are reportedly dropping leaflets warning demonstrators to move out of the rally sites (on grounds of insurrection and possibel death penalty). The anti-government protesters have declared "victory" as the police state "there will be no tear gas today."

 

The protests come as "the people" rise up against "the elites" - a familar story (via The Economist):

The “people’s coup”, declared by Suthep Thaugsuban, a former deputy prime minister from the opposition Democrat party, states that "Thailand ruled by the Shinawatras is intolerable, and therefore the clan, including Miss Yingluck, Mr Thaksin and the rest, must be removed from power and replaced by a “perfectly democratic People’s Council."

 

Alt-Thai News Network sums up the people's view of the current leader:

In a particularly cogent op-ed titled, "Yingluck can't duck responsibility for protest fatalities," former editor Veera Prateepchaikul sums up perfectly the state of illegitimacy within which the current regime in Thailand resides.

 

He begins by describing Yingluck Shinawatra, current prime minister and sister of deposed US-backed dictator Thaksin Shinawatra, as aloft and absent. During the rare occasion she does attend any sort of government function, she appears lost and confused, and often bluntly states she does not know the answers to questions any other national leader would be embarrassed not to answer. This illustrates her role as placeholder for her brother, not the "democratically elected leader" she is portrayed as being by the Western media.

and while we have seen this kind of unrest before, this time is different (via The Economist):

For as long as Thais can recall, their governments have built up their majorities in the provinces. The same governments have been unmade rather handily in the capital, to the perennial relief of the Bangkok elite who enjoy ties with the royal palace. The notion that power has shifted permanently from the centre to the provinces—where the Shinawatras have their base—seems to be unacceptable to many of the old guard. The elite are used to thinking that power can always be clawed back in Bangkok.

As the last few days have been bloody and violent as this amazing drone clip shows:

 

 

Thailand's Military appear to implicitly bless the coup...

Thailand’s armed forces will “stand from afar and monitor” anti-govt protests, Army chief Prayuth Chan-Ocha tells reporters, adding that political problems should “be solved by politics.”

Which has lead to this...

A collapse in Thai Consumer Confidence

 

and this... (via Alt-Thai News Network)

Anti-regime protesters, outnumbering police at two locations in Bangkok, Police Head Quarters and Government House, are poised to take over and occupy both locations peacefully as they have other government sites throughout the city.

 

However, the regime has dropped leaflets over the protesters claiming that the anti-regime protests constitute "insurrection" (which carries a maximum penalty of death), that the leaders are to be arrested, and protesters are to return home.

And the following...

 

@W7VOA

However, we would be surprised if the regime just allowed itself to be overthrown:

 


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Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:00 | Link to Comment The_Prisoner
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The Thai people defeats the IMF-backed Globalists again.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:32 | Link to Comment SafelyGraze
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great job, thai peeps!

now to hold first election!

to be following by many of the re-election of same person for the life!

hugs,
A-Luk 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Lukashenko

 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 02:06 | Link to Comment JohnnyBriefcase
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I look forward to hearing about this on the nightly news.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 03:35 | Link to Comment carlin401
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Your missing the point,and most likely cuz this OP is bullshit.
The protest leader wants to BAN voting forever,

IN the past 20+ years the 'protest leader' has never won an election, and he has publicly stated that democracy has failed because he can't be elected, thus if can ban voting and be appointed PM for life, ... all will be good forever,...

On the other hand the RED's every time there is an election, win by a landslide, what would GW-BUSH DO? Why he would BAN voting.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 09:29 | Link to Comment gmrpeabody
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Actually, it sounds more like Obama than GW.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 11:17 | Link to Comment Magnum
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Great post. All true.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:34 | Link to Comment Keyser
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Quite humorous as the red shirts are the backers of Thaksin and vastly outnumber the elitests calling for a new PM. The Dems had their chance with Abhisit after the ouster of Thaksin in 2006, but the grass-roots folks from Issan took back the PM seat in the last elections, installing Yingluck. When the Dems were in office in 2010, it was the red shirts that were protesting. This year it's the Dems. Thais get together every few years and bump heads on political issues, much like the Olympics. To put things in perspective, Thailand had 20 coups in the 20th century, so it isn't anything new. The military intervenes at the bequest of the King who ultimately decides who runs the kangaroo government. 

 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:38 | Link to Comment Four chan
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its nice when we the people all have the same enemy.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:52 | Link to Comment SonOfSoros
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Until you realize that your friends are actually the enemies. 

Would you like to check out the demographics of the Democratic party supporters? 

Or do you think the leader of the protests, Suthep, former deputy prime minister, who was discovered to have privately handed out land deeds to wealthy families as well as owning equity in firms that are receiving government concessions? 

Who also so happens to be politically connected to big, influential, rich Thai families? 

Or what about the part which says they will install a council to choose a new prime minister but the council will not be elected by the people. Rather, the council will be chosen by him and his connections?

LOL, I can't believe ZH is now full of hippie sheeps. 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 08:04 | Link to Comment Bangin7GramRocks
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Sounds like all the 'Merican dummies who
protested for Dick Armey and the Koch brothers as Tea Party Patriots. Funny stuff!

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 02:26 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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When you look at this carefully, you will discern that the "people" have been hoodwinked and short changed once again.

Thailand can now look forward to an unelected committee that says it knows what is good for you, now shadduppa you face....

Something we should all be very familiar with since the elites in NYC decide what is best for the whole country.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 02:41 | Link to Comment SonOfSoros
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Hoodwinked maybe, short changed no. 

Protesters get paid to protest not sure about the exact percentage of them who are paid but they are. Most are probably just sheeps anyway and I won't consider sheep people. They lack the intelligence to be people.

These protesters are merely following the very people who screwed them over before the whole Thaksin regime and after the Thaksin regime.

The real people who are hoodwinked and got short changed are the neutral parties. Those poor souls had their entire lives shutdown because sheeps were too busy going around fighting each other and shutting the entire country down. 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 03:30 | Link to Comment carlin401
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Well here's the deal 'soros', I mean I don't have a pony in this fight, but what I do have after living 20+ years in Yunan is a lot of thai friends, and most of them are cop's and soldiers they're all drinking buddy's, and I speak almost all the languages are around here and in southern china they speak a thai dialect as well, my point is I have spent a many a drinking hours over the years.

All cops & mil I know are RED, cuz they come from poor villages, and nobody likes the bangkok rich, and these day's that means big chinese rich,...

Another given is that everybody loves the king, and of course EVERYBODY is Buddhist, so at the end of the day, politics aside, they will all worship together, fuck together and drink together.

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Thaksin the 'red' leader, yes he has his problems as all power corrupts, but here's the deal, ... in all THAI history the POOR in ISAN never saw shit before THAKSIN. So now every since the NorthEast POOR Thailand which is the population majority they VOTE 100% for RED, cuz under the RED big money has flowed to university's and high-schools and everybody has seen it, ... under YELLOW not a fucking NICKEL ever.

Thaksin, sure if you sniff his soiled underwear you might smell shit, but this guy "YELLOW PROTEST LEADER", is a party big-wig going back 40+ years that did nothing but make insiders in Bangkok rich, ...

At the end of the day, its really about do you root for the POOR or the RICH,...its up to you.

So THAKIN and his sister YINGLUCK are seen as Robin Hood by the POOR, and the RICH are going nut's, ... too fucking bad american doesn't have this problem.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 06:56 | Link to Comment Machination
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Carlin401 keep your drivel in Yunan.

I live in Bangkok and the issue is a PM that is a puppet and has a clutch on close to absolute power.  And one of the biggest issues that you don't mention is this http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/news/370385/parliament-set-to-debate-2-trillion-baht-loan-bill

Which by the way, is a big reason for these protests.  The "robin hood" of your post is placing debt serfdom on a nation that has been fiscally conservative and prudent since the 1997 crisis.  You don't think the "robin hood" of your post has any ties to the waterfall from that budget spending?  Follow it and you find an interesting picture.  And everybody in Bangkok knows that's what the budget is about, it is not about "robin hooding"

 

 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:38 | Link to Comment Keyser
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The only thing which you can depend on 100% when living in or dealing with Thais is to follow the baht. 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 10:16 | Link to Comment wharfdaddy
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Thailand will never UN FUCK itself. Everything you said is 100 percent true carlin. Strange as it is the fact remains a CFR Crony like Thaksin is a hero to these people Northeastern Rural Poor. The Yellow shirts offered the rural poor a choice between hard dick and bubble gum and they would always be outta bubble gum..I moved here 13 years ago. The poor ISAN farmer could not sell rice to anyone except a yellow shirt and the Chinese yellow shirt always FUCKED him.. He could not sell a pig except to a "chinese" pig dealer. I watched the sugar cane truck pour through the village and the men got on for a few bucks and came back 6 weeks later having worked slave hours for slave wages all used up at the "Company Store." Their daughters yell Pussy for sale in some yellow shirt whorehouse. Taksin bought them off. First and most importantly, he offered low interest bank loans to the farmers so that they could pay off their chinese loan sharks. then he implemented a thirty baht health care program. One Dollar and you could see a Doctor. With just these two progams alone, why would anybody ever vote for a yellow shirt. So now the yellow shirts got their panties in a wad because they can't win an election. When the best deal these poor people can get is from a CFR crony they are Fucked..and so is Thailand. Thailand will never Un Fuck itself. 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:41 | Link to Comment Keyser
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You forgot to mention that the going rate to buy a vote in Thailand ranges from 200 - 500 baht. 

I agree Thailand is one of the most fucked up places I have ever been, but that is part of the attraction. That, coupled with the fact that you can do pretty much as you please without having the intelligencia up your ass all the time. 

 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 03:09 | Link to Comment putaipan
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wb7 is closer to the truth . it is a good thing to see as regards the takasin clan, but very close to what the cop told jack nicholson- 'it's thailand'. us farang can never know. and because of the state of the monarchy and lese majeste most thai's have a very difficult time knowing. very complicated. but much love and support to the nation and its'a people that the king represents- chock dee. maybe the elites that are siding with the people in the city this time will learn from the loyalty of the counrty folk that takasin duped in the first place. like i said- very complicated and at least this article hinted at it.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 03:23 | Link to Comment carlin401
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Most thai's know exactly what's going on, ... its the foreigners that don't have a fucking clue.

That's what the Thai's hate most is when foreigner tells them what they know.

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The article was 100% IMF bullshit, ... at the very least ZH could have posted a fair and balanced OP, even the BBC is more fair than the shit and piss posted here.

Issue is simple RED is POOR, YELLOW is rich, YELLOW haven't won an election for 20+ years, no now they want another coup and they want to re-write the Constitution to ban elections,... Simple as that, and the RED POOR make up 90% of the population, so the majority will always win,.. and that is the problem for the RICH.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 03:45 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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I think you mixed the yellows and reds. But essentially correct. The rural elected yellow PM is now being outed by the Bangkokcentric elitist reds. The reds are unhappy that they can never win a national election and have resorted to an overthrow. They want some kind of super committee to run the country. Sound familiar?

The yellows blundered with their stupid amnesty bill. They should have known better.

Ordinary Bangkok people who have to worry about feeding a family are basically  sick and tired of having to plan their day by listening to the political news instead of the weather every morning.

Now they along with the rest of SEA have allowed themselves to get into another foreign financed real estate bubble and are looking at another slapfest by the International Mother Fuckers in short order.

My source?:  Thais.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 03:48 | Link to Comment carlin401
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THE REDS are the GOOD GUYS they represent the rural POOR, who are 90% by majority of thailand.

The YELLOW are the COLOR of GOLD they REPresent THE rich chinese elite money of real-estate interests in bangkok,

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Yes, I agree 'ordinary' Bangkok thai's poor and call themselves 'green' and they all wear whistles they blow in the face of the red and yellow.

But the YELLOW only represents the rich of Bangkok, but the RED represents 90% rural northern thailand, and 100% of ISAN ( NE thailand ).

The YELLOW ( protestors ) haven't won an election for 20+ years, banzai your facts are twisted and incorrect, I can only surmise your trying to antagonize me, please try to learn real shit, and please note that 'your' friends in thailand will be biased, as all the people that actually live in Bangkok are sick and tired of REDS & YELLOW using their streets to fight political war.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 03:53 | Link to Comment carlin401
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TEAM RED - POOR RURAL

To better understand Thailand’s polarized political realm, look no further than one man — exiled former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra. The ex-police officer, business tycoon and political demagogue mobilized Thailand’s rural heartland to propel himself to the nation’s highest political office.

But his brazen leadership style forged enmity with the

YELLOW - BANGKOK RICH

country’s Bangkok-based traditional elites: the yellow shirts. His removal from office during a 2006 military coup marshaled his allies: the red shirts.

http://world.time.com/2013/11/07/thailands-color-war-why-red-hates-yellow/

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 04:11 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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You are right I am getting my primary colors mixed up.

Better for farang to mind his own business.

Which applies doubly when one travels to Bangkok...

In any event there is now a strong impetus to clean everything up since the Hong Kong and Chinese tourist services are now being told to avoid Thailand going into peak season...hmmm...

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:46 | Link to Comment Keyser
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I was in Bangkok during the 2006, 2009 and 2010 insurrections. As long as you stayed away from the effected areas, you would never know anything was going on. 

 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 09:18 | Link to Comment wharfdaddy
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Thaksin is a a criminal CFR Crony no Doubt. He was able to manipulate the Rural Poor like a charm. Think BUSH and the Repubs getting the Poor white vote in the deep south when we all know The repubs will do nothing at all for the Bubbas... The sad fact is that if the Poor in Thailand could have gotten a better shake from the yellows they would have took it. The yellows are pissed that majority rule-democracy has left them in second place. What they really want is for their vote to count twice for every vote that a Red Shirt gets. The yellows don't want anything like equality. the want the Red Shirts doing the scut work for a hundred baht (3 bucks) a day. One thing I will tell you, if the red shirts could have got any kind of better deal from the yellows we wouldn't have this problem. But they Can't. the yellows like their little Noreastern slaves and they think everybody should have one... You are right Yingluck is a CFR stooge and the two trillion in loans ought to get the country on it's back so that the bankers can do to Thailand what they always do what they always do whereever they go. To complicate it mainland chinese are able to buy land now just as if they are Thai citizens. I'm a white dude. I can't even inherit her land if she dies. So it goes..I've lived here in Thailand for 13 years..one thing has not changed and that is that this place will never unphuck itself.

 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 04:18 | Link to Comment Barefooted_Tramp
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sorry William he has it right: yellow is basicly the Bangkok upperclass, yellow being the color of the king. The reds are the Isaan rural population plus those that were spilled into Bangkok from those rural areas where they do low-paying jobs or work as bargirls.                    

The Isaan region is culturally and linguistically closer to Laos than Bangkok and has has  been literally colonized by Bangkok Thais in the 19th century and sucked dry and pillaged. Thaksin understood that he could win elections by handing out freebies, rice subsidies and cheep credits to a huge voterbase in the Isaan, where the population is growing very fast as poor farmer families still have lots of kids.

 

 

 

 

 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 07:12 | Link to Comment The_Prisoner
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This blog seems to give a good perspective. It is by a farang, on the ground in SE asia.

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com.au/2011/03/globalists-worst-nightmare....

"The foundation of the self-sufficiency economy is simply growing your own garden and providing yourself with your own food. This is portrayed on the back right-hand side of every 1,000 baht Thai banknote as a picture of a woman tending her garden. The next step is producing surplus that can be traded for income, which in turn can be used to purchase technology to further enhance your ability to sustain yourself and improve your life-style."

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 08:02 | Link to Comment Urban Redneck
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Actually I have a hell of lot more than a clue since I'm on a first name basis with a bunch of these corrupt ass clowns on all four sides of this overtly polite and covertly duplicitous farce.

Your bullshit oversimplification holds about as much water as saying Warren Buffet and George Soros are ALL ABOUT HELPING THE POOR.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 02:34 | Link to Comment yogibear
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We'll see if  CNBC or Bloomberg covers it tomorrow?

  

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 11:14 | Link to Comment Magnum
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Thailand is the one who, in 1997, bitch-slapped the IMF when the country had a currency crisis. He refused to enslave Thailand in debt, took small loans, and had them all paid back well before they were due. In fact much of the shrewd decisions were from Thaksin.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:52 | Link to Comment Keyser
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And ultimately navigated his way from being a cop to owning a multi-billion dollar telcom business, which he sold in 2006. It ain't what you know, it who and when. 

 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:02 | Link to Comment LetThemEatRand
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Not enough Homeland Security.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:06 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 BUT I THOUGHT ASIA was our epiphany?

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:53 | Link to Comment Keyser
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If you thought the US was corrupt, you ain't seen anything like Thailand. 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:05 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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hmmmm. I would advise President Putin to "let it go." Ukraine "for Ukrainians" is not a threat and I really fail to see how having a bunch of Americans ogling all the girls over there represents some type of defeat...but we will see. This Pugilist Leader is the type of guy men are made out of. Clearly has Russian blood in him.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:05 | Link to Comment NIHILIST CIPHER
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Now if we here in the USSA could get our police & military to step aside.......................

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:38 | Link to Comment Dasa Slooofoot
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they must not have pensions in Thailand...

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 03:17 | Link to Comment carlin401
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One simple DIFF between Asia and USA

BUDDHISM, ... In Thailand everyone is a buddhist,

In the USA everyone is a hypocrite, and an asshole.

In Thailand if a cop kills someone's child, that cop will eventually die, ... just like the Italian mafia, but in the USA cop's kill daily and never fear the public

Oh, in thailand guns aren't legal, but the cop's still die,... from accidents or poisoning, ... so much for ameriKKK's right to be armed stopping the fucking cop's,

Given all the gun's if american's pussy-male actually had some ball's maybe the cop's could be controlled, but sadly the USA public male has no balls,

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:56 | Link to Comment Keyser
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You've been listening to your red shirt cop buddies too much. The Royal Thai Police are the most corrupt law enforcement agency on the planet, full stop. They regularly murder civilians and get away with it. They KNOW that if they kill someone, the worst that will happen is that they will be transfered to another post in another province. See it too many times. Which is WHY the last person you go to when in trouble in Thailand is the police. If you do, the FIRST they thing will ask you is how much you are willing to pay for this assistance. 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 03:14 | Link to Comment carlin401
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THAI police have very good pensions, and so does THAI MIL.

But the problem with MIL&COP is that they generally come from the POOR, ... so IMHO the majority of cop&mil back the TEAM RED,

Belonging to ream red or yellow doesn't effect your pension in thailand.

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From a historical point of view the cops in the USA were created to bust unions, the cops have always been a tool of the elite. period, in the USA.

The MIL in the USA used to be to protect borders, and the national guard fought against insurrection, but nowadays POSSE-COMMITAS is long gone, and DHS/FEMA are all just MIL, as is DEA/FBI,... in fact now in the USA all COPS are just FED-Soldiers, cuz in the 1980's all police departments signed MOU's to allow the FED's to enforce local law,...

So the fascism of the USA where cop&mil are same, and all hate the public, was completed in the USA back in the 1980's.

In thailand its quite different,the MIL protects borders which is not an issue and the MIL protects the royalty which is not an issue as everyone loves the king.

Where it gets touchy in Thailand is the cops, where the cops' can do rob the citizens blind, ... but in general when the cops get out of hand, the MIL steps in and blows away a few cops and things are good for awhile.

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Asian country's are 10000X better than USA, ...nobody steals your kids(CSD), nobody kicks your door in, ...I mean you would have to be doing something really stupid to get attention of the law in Asia,... but in the USA its of course an ORWELLIAN nightmare.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:07 | Link to Comment Trampy
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Why haven't we stopped this with military intervention? 

The U.S. needs to do "whatever it takes" to keep dictators in power, n'est pas?

 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 02:54 | Link to Comment formadesika3
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I have this sneaking suspicion that Thailand may provide a great cover story for troop deployments without arousing the enemy's suspicion. Question is which enemy?

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:08 | Link to Comment dick cheneys ghost
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thanks to 'debt-money', the whole world is a 'powder keg'

~~~

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:10 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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We'd be charging on Washington too, but the batteries in our motorized scooters can't take the strain.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:27 | Link to Comment NIHILIST CIPHER
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Doc E    trade that scooter in on a bad mo-fo Harley and make like easy rider up to DC.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:42 | Link to Comment OneTinSoldier66
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Yeah but the economy is doing so great now(those GDP estimates keep going up!) that most should be able to upgrade to a Chevy Volt. Or, would that be a downgrade?

 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:50 | Link to Comment TheMeatTrapper
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We don't charge Washington because we know our military leaders would not step aside. They would deploy the Hellfires and Apaches. 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:52 | Link to Comment NIHILIST CIPHER
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WOLVERINES !!!

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:16 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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  I can feel the rattling. The quaking sounds of a new idea...

  If ever there was a time. Band together with your neighbors, and ignore the bliss of your masters.

   Be true to your self and conscience. Know your roots, and respect your elders.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:48 | Link to Comment Paveway IV
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Wait a sec... is this gonna involve my death? THAT's going to be mighty inconvenient.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 02:05 | Link to Comment NIHILIST CIPHER
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paveway          Die now or die later, Ocare will "get you" anyway.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:20 | Link to Comment Duc888
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L.E.A.R.

 

Yea, that's what I was thinking too.

They need more fat fuck navel gazers with tasers and pepperspray.  Mebbe kill a few doggies too.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:24 | Link to Comment W74
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I can't read the Thai alphabet, but those chalk letters look mighty angry.

The buzzing sound of the helicopter is cute too.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:29 | Link to Comment Number 156
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Sometimes the revolutionaries are more dangerous than the state.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:57 | Link to Comment NIHILIST CIPHER
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156          That's callled "winning".

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 00:34 | Link to Comment Number 156
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yes indeed.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:33 | Link to Comment Maxter
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Those quadrocopter camera shot are nice

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:40 | Link to Comment Four chan
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sure are, the guy throwing back the tear gas has a great arm.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 03:31 | Link to Comment Agent P
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Amazon Free Super Saving Shipping on tear gas orders over $35

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 04:17 | Link to Comment Tall Tom
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Yeah. I liked it when the Water Canons tried to shoot down that quadrocopter. Zip...New altitude.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:33 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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    Carbin Fibre burnes. 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:41 | Link to Comment SonOfSoros
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I wonder if you guys blindly cheering these "protests" on are just sheeps or do you even have any idea about the demographics of the protesters and their supporters.

 

Protesters demographics and financial supporters are middle-upper classes, royalists and businessmen. Hardly the kind of "middle class" warfare you suckers hope for.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 03:06 | Link to Comment carlin401
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The majority here on ZH are sadists that is clear to anybody that spends a few minutes here, I might also add 'adolescent sadists', you know the kind of little boys that enjoy putting fire-crackers up a birds ass and watch them fly-away, ... until boom.

Not a fucker here has a clue, and this OP as in all ZH OP's is of course full of shit, as TEAM-YELLOW the protestors is a pawn of TEAM-IMF, and thus 99% of the worlds MSM, and of course ZH belongs to that team as well.

But ZH likes to mix it up, but at the end of the day, there is NO money in altruism, .. that is WHY BTC will be a protected class until ZH see's a NET LOSS.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:00 | Link to Comment Keyser
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I believe the term you are searching for is "schadenfreude".

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 03:15 | Link to Comment putaipan
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who ever the reds (arrows in this case, not shirts...) what sos just said doesn't get it either. he's right.

 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 01:41 | Link to Comment indio007
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What is this "government" they speak of? Who is the govt ?  The police or the politicos?

 

 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 03:03 | Link to Comment carlin401
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Thailand is complicated, but the Thai people seem to by consensus agree, .. that

The job of the Military is to protect the Royal Family,

The job of the Police is to control the People.

This is where it gets complicated, because all thai people love their king, and thus the military never gets called upon the people, but every once in awhile the cop's get out of control the military takes the cops out.

***

Thailand is the oldest monarchy on the face of the earth, and quite unique, and given its people are essentially BUDDHIST in spite of their money grubbing political indifference, ... the Buddhism still is a common denominator, another issue is the HEAD-MONK has the same power as the king, and he just died a few weeks ago, so that creates problems.
But in the next few days all the nation of Thailand celebrates the kings birthday, and during this time the YELLOW will shut up, because anything else would be disrespect.

In summary we simply cannot project our American Stupidity ( fake politics (DEM&PUG circus and Christianity ) towards Thailand.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 03:21 | Link to Comment putaipan
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didn't know about the monk .... very important. but "all thai people love their king" has nuanced in the last 15 years. YES THEY DO. but even that love has gotten complicated.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:03 | Link to Comment Keyser
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To the people, Superme Patriach Nyanasamvara held less stature than the King. You are correct about one thing, this will all blow over today or tomorrow as the King's birthday is on Thursday, Dec 5th... 

 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 02:04 | Link to Comment mt paul
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masters

 

are only 

what the slaves

allow them to be..

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 02:33 | Link to Comment carlin401
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POLITCAL PARTY NAMES - THAI POLITICS 101 - RED MEANS 'RALPH NADER' and YELLOW means "Rush Limbaugh"

PLAYERS - YINGLUCK 'RED' is Dorothy from the Wiz  of OZ, and
Protest leader Suthep Thaugsuban 'YELLOW' is Hitler/Stalin &Mussolini all in one IMF package.

The old elite (yellow) hasn't won an election for 20+ years,

[ Yes team Zero-head IMF supports TEAM - YELLOW, that is all you need to know ]

Just a fews days ago the leader of the Democrat Party ( protestors ) said the problem was 'voting', e.g. he wants a new constitution that ban's the current admin from politics for life, and he wants an 'unelected' peoples party ( his buddys ) to hold office,...

The thing is its RED/YELLOW, and the RED are the POOR, and YELLOW are the rich, the YELLOW live URBAN, and RED 90% are poor and live rural, and for the last 20 years the RED government has been funneling money back to the poor for the first time ever, and the POOR like it, so every time there is an election the RED's win ( yingluck/shinawatra ),

Sort of like the USA where the DEM's win cuz they give out the best 'cargo', but the problem in the USA is the PUG's are also cargo consumers, the real elite rich simply OWN both party's in the USA.

The thing that's interesting about this guy who runs'  the DEM party is he comes from the South ( think muslim ), and down there they're RICH also in HAT-YAI, so now there is a civil war, the rich in bangkok, and the rich in the south, versus the MAJORITY 90% POOR, this guy in the DEM party again wants to ban VOTING, and once and for all stop the POOR who are a majority from voting for POOR CANDIDATES.

The POOR love YINGLUCK, because she promised a ton of stuff, but did deliver, and the DEM's ( elites ) have never delivered fuck to the POOR at any time in history.

 

A few years ago (2006) the YELLOW ( DEM ) took over the airport and had a COUP, and outed the RED, and followed by an election, and that is how YINGLUCK got in, as her brother SHINAWATRA is not in DUBAI. The FACT is most of the POOR love the RED, most of the COPS love the RED, and MOST Military love the RED, cuz MIL&COP all come from POOR.

 

So the RICH are fucked, now is the kings birthday in THAILAND, so their stupid shit must stop,

***

 

One last thing that needs to be said, all the people who actually live in the BANGKOK hate this shit, and are now calling themselves 'GREEN' and wear whistles and any time the protestors talk they blow the whistle, which in thailand is a polite way of saying "shut the fuck up",

 

Everyone is bored to deaths with these protests

When the red protest they bus in the rural northern poor, when the yellow protest the elite bus in the rural southern poor, its a kluster fuck, payable about 500 baht/day, which is a cool $8usd, which is 2X more than a working man gets building a house in rural areas, So protesting really does pay, and my guess a lot of people would be unemployed if the protesting biz, and the rich that FUND COUP's didn't exist.

 

 

Yes, compared to the USA its a quite a joke or even in CHINA, in CHINA or the USA you protest would last one fucking minute, in Thailand these protests go on for months and years.

 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 02:34 | Link to Comment SonOfSoros
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Finally some common sense. 

I was beginning to think it was extinct on ZH.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 02:58 | Link to Comment carlin401
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IT's fucking sad, it is 90% of the comments on ZH are adolescent crap, ...

Real caring about humanity anywhere is rare, and the other 10% of ZH comments is of course the FUCKERS rallying because they love to see Muppet's get fucked, I guess that's why I harp on BTC so much, cuz mostly its just the same assholes pushing penny stock's and now they're pushing BTC, but they're entire narrative a bundle of lies.

I live in Yunan, China, and I was in Bangkok last weekend for biz, in&out in 2 days, and what I wrote above, is just what I saw on the street with my own eyes.

***

Like I said the shit MUST stop now to honor the kings birthday, what happens later is anybody's guess, but given that HUMAN NATURE repeats, and given that Thailand has had an INFINITE number of COUPS since 1932, my guess is TEAM-YELLOW will not give up, ... crime pay's.

But one thing is clear this time and YELLOW LEADER has said loud and clear this time when they take power back, there will never be another fucking ELECTION. Der Leader spoke 'loud and clear' that VOTING is the enemy of Democracy, .. why does OBama not have the ball's to say such and just once and for all to put the NSA/CIA in all positions of USA political power, the CIA has been saying for years that the USA has too much 'democracy' aka voting.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 03:04 | Link to Comment Unpopular Truth
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Carlin
I can follow what you are saying EXCEPT the harping on BTC.
BTC cannot be confiscated, so it gives the little guy a chance, even if they only buy a portion of it. I would think you are FOR it.
What am I missing?
Thanks

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 03:37 | Link to Comment carlin401
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Harping on BTC because BTC is a tool of the IMF,

The protest in Thailand is so the IMF can put their crony's in power for life,

All this fits together, whether you accept it or not,

You cannot support BTC and hate fascism,

"When fascism comes to america, it will be called Bitcon" - George Carlin

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 04:31 | Link to Comment carlin401
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"BTC CANNOT BE CONFISCATED"?

Who in the hell are you mind fucking?

GOOGLE "BIT COIN THEFTS"

They're in the Millions of USD's per day stolen from BTC 'owners'.

There are already dozen's website that just track BTC mega-fraud.

There are sites that offer free decryption of a wallet for a share of the contents.

The only thing 'safe' about BTC, is staying far away from the BITCH.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 03:40 | Link to Comment putaipan
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carlin- very good observations for a farang. still misses the subtlties of the situation. i was in and out of there for 6 years, sometimes months at a time. always loved the place enough to try and understand the situation. i've just read the writings of a blog writer (about a month ago) that loves the country enough to be barred from entering for life just to speak some of the truth. i will not link it here. i kind of wish i had not read it at all. it  was easier just being a dumb farang.

 

you were responding to soros as i typed this last one....  big greenie for that one. you did a better job of describing the conundrum in that post than the others.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 07:54 | Link to Comment bullchit
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The timing was perfect. The rice is being harvested as we speak. No time for red shirt counter protest. Give it another week and there will be 50 million red shirts free.

Regards.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 02:56 | Link to Comment q99x2
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Probably the same thing would happen here. Those globalists in Washington D.C. are morons. From the DHS I've talked to they would likely assist US protestors at this point. But that of course would mean you would have to find an American that would be willing to protest.

What if there was a revolution and nobody showed up?

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 03:37 | Link to Comment carlin401
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Dude,in this case the 'protesters' are the BAD guys,

Sheesh of course DHS would help the protestors.

There was already a revolution in Thailand 20+ years ago, and now the rich are trying to take their country back from the POOR.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 03:50 | Link to Comment putaipan
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ah see. that is where we beg to differ ... what you wanna let takasin and family back in? there have been plenty of 'coups' since your 'revolution 20+ years ago'...that is the thai way. yes there is the old corruption and i'm sure they've picked up some new skills in the past twenty years- but that is light years from the pilfering of the nation undertaken by takasin and family.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 04:06 | Link to Comment carlin401
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All the coups in the past 20 years were the 'yellow' using the MIL to engineer a coup, followed by an election, where the people voted for the RED's,...

Now the YELLOW is sick and tired of this cycle, and they're calling to BAN elections,

FUCK you assholes if your not pimping IMF BTC, your support IMF RICH GREEDY POWER HUNGRY assholes.

**

This YELLOW leader Suthep Thaugsuban for 40+ years was the GRAFT Mafia-Don of Thailand, and everybody knows,... What Thaksin was found guilty of was a chump charge, returning this 'Yellow' guy to power, would take Thailand back 50 years.

Remember this YELLOW guy has NOT won one fucking election in 20+ years, and that's why he's calling for a COUP and to permanently ban voting.

***

As long as their is majority voting the RED will win, and THAKSIN is who brought POWER TO THE POOR, so when YELLOW uses THAKSIN as a demagogue he's not referring to Thaksin, he's referring to the notion that the POOR must be stopped from voting.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 03:59 | Link to Comment carlin401
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Just remember - RED IS BLOOD - YELLOW IS GOLD

That in Thailand RED is the color of Blood, the blood of the POOR.

That YELLOW is the color of CHinese GOLD, the power of Bangkok.

Like the articles say's the 'elite' think that after being out of power for 20 years they can 'claw' their way back into power, ... not likely.

The 90% of POPULATION, the rural poor have been awakened, long ago.

***

Why can't america take its country back?, and why is not the other way around, why are the bankers not protesting in USA streets for a return to their power??

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 04:08 | Link to Comment putaipan
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can't you see the wrong behind your right-  ..... taksin is the ralph nader imf fighter?

give to me a mother freaking break. all we need here then is for jeb bush to restore the american farmer and chase those rascally bankers back where they came from.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 04:10 | Link to Comment carlin401
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Yes,

Sadly this is true to the EYES of 70Million poor thailand people that only make $3/day THAKSIN is their robin-hood.

The other guy Suthep Thaugsuban ( yellow protest ) leader, is seen as Darth Vader by the POOR in THailand.

Remember fuck-head its NOT what you think its what the THAI people think..

The IFM and AIPAC, and BIS has tried damn hard to DEMONIZE thaksin just like you, but yes to the people of THAILAND he is Ralph Nader, and note they the TPTB also tried to discredit Ralph Nader, but nothing ever stuck,

To the RURAL poor of ISAN Thaksin is a hero, ... like it or not.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 05:51 | Link to Comment Joenobody12
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I am surprised that the yellow protestors are getting their way. Why can't the government put its foot down and control them in accordance with the law ? If that is not possible, then the REDs should try to fight mob with mob tactic. This is not hte first time the Yellows attempted to overthrow a democraticaly elected government. Even for outsiders who have no bone in the fight, it is disgusting to see this Suthep character in action. Enough is Enough !

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 07:01 | Link to Comment obelisks
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Yes indeed Joe! I think Suthep and Nancy Pelosi are similar sorts of characters.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 10:26 | Link to Comment forwardho
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If your comment was seen as a stand alone statement.

To the uninformed it would read as a decription of a violent sporting event.

Complete with the monday morning quarterback.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:43 | Link to Comment Keyser
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Do NOT attempt to apply western logic in Asia, especially in Thailand. That is one mistake that every westerner makes. 

 

 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 08:56 | Link to Comment Barefooted_Tramp
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Thaksin is ambiguous to say the least. While he handed out freebies in the form of consumer credits to the rural poor and heavy subsidies for rice farmers with one hand to buy votes he stole billions for his personal fortune in shady business transactions with the other hand. Think of Obamafones and money for the banksters in the US.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 10:17 | Link to Comment putaipan
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i've come back 3 days latter to post this link on your great reformer... unfortunately, no mention of his faithful side kick zimmerman -

http://www.blacklistednews.com/Thailand%27s_Regime_%26_The_Cambodian_Con...

and 5 mins. after that with this one....

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com.au/2011/03/globalists-worst-nightmare....

i hope you have come back to this thread and read these you carlin dumb fuck !

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 04:44 | Link to Comment putaipan
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yes. sadly this is true.

(only i'm not so sure it was the imf bis and the tribe that was demonizing takasin, i think they were making great headwinds with him. i thought it was the urban educated thais that called the devil out for what he was and the old school rich have manipulated genuine resentment back into their hands. but hey- that's my take on a very unfortunate situation.)

singha or chang? you gotta choose .... in the mean time here's some tunes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYGl-l0Toig#t=78

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 05:46 | Link to Comment Vigilante
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@bANZAI

You mixed the colours.

The Reds are in power..the poor from North and NE Thailand vote red.

The Yellows are the middle classes and the BKK elite plus the Royalists.

Hence the 'stand down' by the police and army.....on high-up orders.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:49 | Link to Comment Keyser
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You can say it here, the King decides who stays in power and who is ousted. No Lese Majeste laws here, so far. Which is why Thaksin Shinawatra was ousted as PM in 2006 by a military coup that was ordered by the King. Thaksin was seen to have too much power, popularity and was threatening the status of the King. So, out he went. 

 

 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 05:48 | Link to Comment Rama V
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We gots to have a coup every 3 years or so.  That's the way we roll.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 07:29 | Link to Comment putaipan
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big up greenie for you rama v. big time ....

and from the article that shall not be linked-

'As 2013 draws to a close, Thailand remains locked in a destabilizing conflict that is doing immense damage to the country and to the welfare of its people. The dark age, or ??????, which many Thais had feared would accompany the end of King Bhumibol’s reign is already upon us. Two implacable and unprincipled elite factions fixated on their own narrow self-interest are waging a fight to the death, trampling the aspirations of ordinary Thais underfoot. Both sides have sought to provoke killings and chaos as part of their strategy. Both sides have systematically undermined the rule of law and sought to co-opt institutions of state that should be impartial. Neither side appears to care how much collateral damage they cause. Watching from afar, it breaks my heart.'

google it.

happy birthday rama IX. long live the king!

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:58 | Link to Comment Keyser
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The power structure in Thailand will be difficult to change, even with the inevitable event everyone dreads on the horizon. The Chinese-Thais will attempt keep the masses uneducated and in the rice fields or factories, giving them just enough training the operate the machines, but not much more. Their problem is the affluence creeping into the country from having a roaring economy, huge tourist industry, improved access to information (internet), a large expat community and less than 1% unemployment. This brings the people choices, knowledge and power, which the enemy of the elites. Interesting times ahead for the Land of Smiles. 

 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 09:05 | Link to Comment frank888
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Foreigners ( Thai peoples know.. ) should be very careful when they speak about some Thai matters..

Many have been put in jails for many years for crime  "de lese majeste"..

One special unit of the Thai police is in charge to check the net WORLDWIDE in order to found what is said about it...

Thailand is a democracy only in appearance, in fact a military state...

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 14:02 | Link to Comment Keyser
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Yeah, but we aren't in Thailand now, are we? Besides, Lese Majeste laws are only applicable in Thailand if speaking negatively about the Monarchy. 

 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 09:18 | Link to Comment Machination
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Carlin401, how many posts to this thread did you submit? You don't even live in Thailand!

Who are you working for and why the big uproar of posts from subjects vast and far from the OP.  Do tell?!

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 11:30 | Link to Comment Magnum
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Farang " experts" on Thailand are a dime a dozen.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 14:03 | Link to Comment Keyser
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I especially like the ones that don't speak a word of Thai. 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 10:40 | Link to Comment tony wilson
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this rabble must be crushed these animals cannot be allowed to get away with this.

thailand has debts to pay obligations to the international comunity.

destroying uk and us assets in country must stop.

lord rothschild has stated that the haarp phillipines option has not been ruled out.

hitler fan george soros hopefully will be able to correct these problems with the help of the cia and some beards from saudi and israel.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 11:30 | Link to Comment Magnum
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I will miss Yingluck she is a beautiful woman who traveled the world and represented Thailand well.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 15:12 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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"Thai protests turn a darker color"     12/03/13  by Pepe Escobar  @     www.atimes.com/ 

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/SEA-02-031213.html

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 16:44 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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Add'l Note:  Of the '14 High-Value Terrorist (HVT)-- 9/11',... six of the fourteen were captured in Pakistan between 2002-05--- #7 of the (14) fourteen was *Osama bin Laden, killed May/2011 in Pakistan (*Pakistan and China are very close-- very close [!!!] indeed... need I say more?)!

Moving on? Now, #8 and #9 of the fourteen (14) 'HVT' were captured in Thailand, both in 2003! Why were they in Thailand then and what brought them there. Who else works out of Thailand. Was the UAE (Dubai) and SA's bandar behind 9/11?

Ps. Of special interest is the Boston Marathon Terrorist? The brothers and their estranged relations with a couple of SA students that were rushed out of the USSA the same day under heavy pressure from the SA's consulate! And, please let us not forget how the bin Laden's living (visiting?) in the USSA were wisked-out the night of 9/11 ?!? 

Finally: Some might be saying what does this have to do with Thailand ( China/ Myanmar[Burma]/Thailand = anti-pivot)? All I can say is connect the dots! Because it was, and is SA that started the genocide in Syria, and all the turmoil in Egypt!  

"News Analysis: Myanmar port project ($8bn US) to boost ties with Thailand"     5/25/13  **(Dawei's deep-sea port in Myanmar and Thailand's western part for logistics and transportation hub bypasses the 'Asian-Pivot',... checkMate to ex SOS Hillarliass?!?)       http://www.china.org.cn/world/Off_the_Wire/2013-05/25/content_28929985.htm 

thankyou Tyler

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