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House Hearing On Obama's Unilateral Action To Cease Enforcing Laws - Live Webcast

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The House Judiciary Committee is about to discuss what it calls “The President’s Constitutional Duty to Faithfully Execute the Laws,” focusing on the Obamacare delays, enforcement of immigration laws, and more. As Mediaite notes, the question of whether the president can take unilateral action to cease enforcing laws stretches back at least to last summer, when President Barack Obama said he would stop deporting young undocumented immigrants, an end-run around congressional refusal to pass the DREAM Act.

Executive orders have played a part in everything from the non-enforcement of the Defense of Marriage Act to the administration’s “fix” two weeks ago allowing insurance providers to renew policies cancelled after the implementation of the Affordable Care Act. 

It seems the constitutional lawyers want to have their say in the "most transparent" administration ever.

 

 


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Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:06 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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The King of Spades

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:31 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Oooh, this circus oughta make the facade nice and shiny!

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:46 | Link to Comment smlbizman
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way to many canadians on the govt. teat....like ms. jackson ,if ur nasty..or the intellectual mr. mel watts, etc....

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 14:03 | Link to Comment kralizec
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Yeah, well...this will go no where...I mean like, where's the enfocement let alone the will to use it?!

Embrace violent resolution of America's ills...all peaceful avenues are being cut off, made illegal...or outright ignored.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 14:20 | Link to Comment aminorex
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Lindsey Graham is a corrupt war-profiteering fascist wannabe

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 14:50 | Link to Comment wtf1369
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I agree, but who dragged that nancy boy into this?

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:54 | Link to Comment 666
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Obummer makes Nixon look like a saint!

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:01 | Link to Comment midtowng
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If Obama was interested in enforcing laws he would have arrested Bush and Cheney for war crimes. And rounded up most of the Wall Street executives for financial crimes.

Why the House only cares about Obamacare regulations means the hearing is a joke.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:41 | Link to Comment N2OJoe
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You can't just end the list there...

Holder, Pelosi, Bernanke, Reid, Janet Napolitano, Every shareholder of the federal reserve, etc etc.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:54 | Link to Comment indygo55
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Exactly, that's why this is all theatre. Distraction. 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:45 | Link to Comment playnstocks
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Bla Bla Bla.. go away

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 14:00 | Link to Comment Trucker Glock
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Arrest Bush and Cheney?  Hell, Maobama granted Cheney Secret Service protection for life.  First time in history for a VP, if I recall correctly.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 14:25 | Link to Comment Rafferty
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Don't blame him. He's just an autocue-reading stuffed shirt dummy with the banksters' hand up his ass.  (Gues that reminds him of his bathhouse days.....)

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:59 | Link to Comment doctor10
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Somebody's shorts are knotted since Syria never happened. They're gonna stick it to him gud!!! /s

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 14:17 | Link to Comment doctor10
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Either that or the locals back in their districts are starting to squeal pretty hard and they have to look like they're doing SOMETHING congressional

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:05 | Link to Comment Van Halen
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This shit Obama is pulling has to be stopped NOW. Because there is no question he'll take the mile if given the inch.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:13 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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Yeah, it'll all stop in the House of Representatives ... just after Boehner stops crying on Pelosi's cheese bags. 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:23 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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He already took the mile.  Now he's daring anyone to try to take it back.  Nobody steps up, he takes 10 more.

See recent article talking about eliminating the 2 term limit for a President (a Constitutional Ammendment, last time I checked).  The idea's already been floated, now they're just seeing how much push-back they get.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:25 | Link to Comment WallowaMountainMan
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tryin' to follow in putin's footsteps?

 

 

Just askin...

 

:)

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:59 | Link to Comment Dull Care
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Difference being that Putin actually has his country's best interests at heart.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 14:06 | Link to Comment Chewybunny
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Putin has his loyal followers and fellow oligarchs' interests first. There's a reason why Moscow has the highest number of billionaires per capita, but the rest of the country is a 3rd world desolate hell hole.

Seriously...Putin? 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:07 | Link to Comment manhattanexile
Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:27 | Link to Comment WallowaMountainMan
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"IMPEACHMENT"

 

reminds me of the impeach bush or die memes of yester-year.

 

:)

Wed, 12/04/2013 - 11:42 | Link to Comment WallowaMountainMan
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the down arrows remind me of the time i said egypt's reset of their democratic process would be less violent than ours was. (what reset of ours, you ask? oh, let's see....ummm....yeah.... the 'civil' war.)

 

:)

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:08 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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Throw in The RICO Act while you are at it.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:31 | Link to Comment Blues Traveler
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and springle in extortion with a dabs of lies and a hints of illegal use of taxpayer funds....

Fromer fbi director Louis Freeh (clinton) spoke at an event, at the conclusion, he was aksed if he believed there was still 3 fucntioning branches of government and if he did, could he provide examples.  Louigi said yes but didn't provide any examples.

Why can we not sue the meida for lying?

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:10 | Link to Comment Van Halen
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There's no reason to throw all these different things at Obama, other than the CONSTITUTION, which, if a simpleton like me is reading it right, says he can't use press conferences to announce he's going to change laws on a whim. Rather, laws are changed by CONGRESS.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:12 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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WTF is this? You mean to tell me that somebody in Washington finally noticed that this fucker keeps crossing the line and trampling the constitution in the process? No fucking way.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:14 | Link to Comment Bosch
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Someone besides Rand Paul or Ted Cruz anyway. 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 14:27 | Link to Comment the not so migh...
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Ted Cruz likes Goldman Sacks pussy, its confimred.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 15:14 | Link to Comment Real Estate Geek
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But in all fairness to him, I'm sure that GS can procure world-class pussy.

 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:18 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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If they were serious about this do you think it would be done in a show-hearing?  Where's the federal-level lawsuit making it's way to the Superme Court?

Both sides want this to continue.  They want to know that when their turn comes to wield that power it was well worth all the dead bodies they had to crawl over to get it.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:16 | Link to Comment SmallerGovNow2
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EXACTLY Doc!  There are multiple reasons why this guy should be impeached including Fast and Furrious, Libya, Bengazi, IRS Scandal, NSA Scandal, EO changing laws at will that he does not have the authority to do.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:10 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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free corzine

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:20 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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Jon Corzine is being kept in a stealthy, subaquatic prison somewhere in the Bermuda Triangle.  Heard it from my guy.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 14:23 | Link to Comment Wen_Dat
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Jim Willie? :-)

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 14:41 | Link to Comment ParkAveFlasher
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A man can dream.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:11 | Link to Comment RacerX
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That's okay, he'll only stick in the tip.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:12 | Link to Comment Overfed
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The trouble is partisan politics. No matter what O'bomb-a does wrong, the Dem controlled Senate will shoot down any sanctions against him. All in the name of party politics. Shameful.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:13 | Link to Comment Bosch
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Meanwhile, in the Mideast, via drone, Obama is actually Faithfully Executing the (In)Laws. 

 

 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:17 | Link to Comment stock trout
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" the question of whether the president can take unilateral action to cease enforcing laws stretches back at least to last summer"

Actually it stretches a little further back to the 1830s. "John Marshall has made his decision. Now let him enforce it" - Andrew Jackson.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 14:05 | Link to Comment divide_by_zero
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That brings up the other big question of an activist Supreme Court changing laws by decision not merely throwing them out over constitutionality. One could rightly argue that John Marshall as Chief Justice trampled over states rights and ushered in the supremacy of federal law and the era big government through "judicial review" a term he may have coined.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:23 | Link to Comment WallowaMountainMan
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santelli's on this....

w/ biderman no less....

live on air....propably over by the time you read this...

 

:)

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:24 | Link to Comment nmewn
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When the law only means what a tyrant wants it to mean (on any given day) it ceases to be the law...only the dictates and mandates of a tyrant.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:36 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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You're not implying that's where we are right now, are you?

Oh, you are.  OK, I can buy that.

TODAY'S EXAMPLE:

Get this... this morning Obama announces he's going to give money to insurance companies so they can cover costs to comply with his decision to allow cancelled policies to be reinstated.  You're following this insanity so far, right?  

So where's he get that money?  Don't know, don't care.  Just pulled it out of his stash (taxpayer pockets), I guess.  Nobody even questioning if he has the authority.  Just "announce and it becomes law."

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:12 | Link to Comment Being Free
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Yes.  This is an almost daily event. 

Guess he must be relying on the "Good and Plenty" clause in the constitution for this authority. /sarc

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:30 | Link to Comment Everybodys All ...
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This is to be expected when the formative years of the president is spent in foreign lands. Say what you will but how this president is acting is not an America concept under our rule of law..

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:33 | Link to Comment Blues Traveler
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Barrack once said "just because I said I was going to do that doesnt mean I was going to do that..."

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:47 | Link to Comment Quinvarius
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Worst...President...Ever.  He has no concept of the role of the President or that the law, specifically the Constitution, is bigger than he is.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:48 | Link to Comment Hedgetard55
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But...but... wasn't Captain Clusterfuck a Professor of Constitutional Law???

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:49 | Link to Comment N2OJoe
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Sorry Quin but I had to downvote you because he knows damn well what the roles are but he also knows that since he is never challenged on it, he is able to seize any power he wishes at any time.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 14:38 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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WAS is the operative word.  I believe both he and the Wookie lost their license to practice law.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:49 | Link to Comment Wyatt Junker
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I think Obama's setting a good example.  I never liked the laws either.  I'm a minarchist.  If our dear leader won't enforce whatever he doesn't like, I won't follow whatever I don't like.  Lawlessness begets lawlessness.  And besides, I was tired a long time ago from paying taxes, so that will have to stop too with everything else... from jaywalking to not being allowed to pork the family dog in the southern states.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:07 | Link to Comment forwardho
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Though you jest, this lawlessness at the top DOES filter down to the masses. A nation of Laws means something. Without law there is no society, mearly a chaotic rabble.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:18 | Link to Comment Wyatt Junker
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yes that, but also this...

 

The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws

 

- Tacitus

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:52 | Link to Comment Ace Ventura
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When was the last time a 'House Hearing' resulted in any meaningful action against TPTB? Plenty of action in SUPPORT of their agenda sure, but anything against?

Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?.......Bueller?

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:52 | Link to Comment ImReady
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This black guy talking right now is coked up. Watch his mouth. Classis coke grind.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 12:54 | Link to Comment sosoome
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And not a peep out of these hypocrites about John Roberts writing law and imposing taxation without representation. 

Hint rep!ubliCONS: the constitution is not partisan!

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:01 | Link to Comment Reaper
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Even if the Senate would not convict, the House by beginning impeachment proceedings could subpoena all kinds of records and have all kinds of White House lackeys testify. The longer the list of criminal offenses, the more WH lackeys would take the fifth. His popular support would go even lower and he becomes ineffective. The basic high crimes(felonies)would be multiple violations of 18USC §371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States "If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both."
And 18USC §1031 - Major fraud against the United States "(a) Whoever knowingly executes, or attempts to execute, any scheme or artifice with the intent—
(1) to defraud the United States; or
(2) to obtain money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises,
in any grant, contract, subcontract, subsidy, loan, guarantee, insurance, or other form of Federal assistance, including through the Troubled Asset Relief Program, an economic stimulus, recovery or rescue plan provided by the Government

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:19 | Link to Comment roadhazard
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It's Congress that gave all the extra powers to the Executive Branch so they could cut down on what they had to take responsibility for. Now they want to whine about it.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:24 | Link to Comment Overfed
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Well sure. They just want the perks, but none of the responsibilities. Been going on for a long time, and now it's coming to a head. Interesting times......

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:29 | Link to Comment 22winmag
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Another case of the government investigating itself and finding nothing wrong... or just grandstanding if they do.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:29 | Link to Comment bigrooster
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Is it just me or do the black democrats simply bitch during their 5 minutes and don't ask any questions that pertain to the hearing?

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:32 | Link to Comment booboo
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The constitution means nothing if the regular citizen acts (that would imply taking ACTION) to invoke ones natural rights. Yea, it's a pain in the ass, freedom is hard on the front end easy on the back end, just the opposite with the others.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:34 | Link to Comment monad
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While this is in the spotlight Shumer & friends are trying to issue unconstitutional, illegal orders to disarm us so they can steal our property and kill us. This is treason.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:33 | Link to Comment diogeneslaertius
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why won't you just let the new world order love you? they just want to love you. they sent their trendiest, shiniest viceroys yet even, cmon guiz.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:34 | Link to Comment Crash Overide
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About 85% of the congress, senate, and white house belong in jail for their crimes against humanity.

It's pretty much a fact now.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:38 | Link to Comment bigrooster
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Go Mr Labrador!  "They bitch and moan (the democrats in the house)"!  God Bless you for having the balls to call them out.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 13:38 | Link to Comment Blano
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GOP late to the party as usual.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 14:03 | Link to Comment Payable on Death
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Prime opportunity to roll out "It's Bush' fault." And it is. Look up "signing statements" and "energetic executive".

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 14:28 | Link to Comment Grinder74
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"So let it be written. So let it be done."

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 14:34 | Link to Comment Chewybunny
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"It's in Congress where magic happens."

 

Do you guys believe in Magic? 

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 14:38 | Link to Comment TomGa
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It's much worse than I thought.... (and I thought it was pretty bad already).

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 14:54 | Link to Comment wtf1369
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The bullshit's been stacking up in DC for decades but went off the charts 13 years ago give or take. I'd like to believe that after so fucking long that just maybe this would be the beginning of an awakening, but I'm sure it's just more theater.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 15:28 | Link to Comment squid427
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Let's not forget about arresting/executing the tri-lateral commission, and the council on forign relations.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 15:43 | Link to Comment Westcoastliberal
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Sorry let me get this straight....we have to have hearings on whether or not laws should be enforced?  How 'bout we just scrap the entire system and start over, adhering to the Constitution and Bill of Rights?  Or is that too much to ask.

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 20:22 | Link to Comment Bastiat
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Oops!  Who let this guy get the mic?

Expert Testifies to Congress that Obama’s ‘Ignoring Laws’ Could Lead to Overthrow of Government

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/expert-testifies-to-congress-that-obamas-igno...

Tue, 12/03/2013 - 20:31 | Link to Comment nmewn
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My only question is, is he/they doing it on purpose?

He (and they) can't be stupid enough to not know, they will have nowhere to run or hide.

(Its just a historical fact NSA, get over yourselves...lol)

Wed, 12/04/2013 - 03:41 | Link to Comment Drifter
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Only group more delusional than this govt is "patriots" believing they'll overthrow this govt.

 

Wed, 12/04/2013 - 08:34 | Link to Comment esum
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knock off the bullsit and IMPEACH .... 

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