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This Is How The NSA Is Tracking You This Instant
That little "entertaining" cell phone in your back pocket, which you are so addicted to thanks to all its apps, videos, messaging function and all other cool bells and whistles, that you can't possibly live without? It is simply the definitive NSA tracking beacon used to find where you are at any given moment. The following infographic explains how the NSA does just that...
Source: WaPo
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And with Bitcoin
Prove it loser.
In 1989 the NSA released cryptography hash MD2, but it was found to have a mathematical backdoor.
So in 1990 the NSA released cryptography hash MD4, but it was found to have a mathematical backdoor.
Following this revelation in 1992 the NSA released cryptography hash MD5, but by 1996 it was found to have a mathematical backdoor.
SHA-0 was published by the NSA in 1993, but was shortly withdrawn as it was found to have a significant flaw.
SHA-1 was published by the NSA in 1995, and was used by everyone until 2010 when it transpired a weakness in the hash had been the subject of various attacks since 2005.
The latest NSA published cryptography hash is SHA-2, which is what Bitcoin is based on.
Good luck with that.
I am well aware of the intelligence agencies envolvement in cryptography. The British were using it years before RSA went public with it. All of the cryptography implemented in Bitcoin is open source as well.
More FUD, try harder.
MD2 was open source.
MD4 was open source.
MD5 was open source
SHA-0 was open source.
SHA-1 was open source.
SHA-2 is open source.
Bitcoin is built on SHA-2, the 6th generation of published NSA cryptology hash's, all of the previous 5 generations were open source and all were eventually discovered to contain unpublicised mathematical backdoors.
Thats nothing, They are physically watching and recording everyone at all times very soon.
ARGUS - video record an entire city.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGxNyaXfJsA
Greenspan said this today: http://www.bloomberg.com/video/greenspan-on-bitcoin-i-guess-it-s-a-bubbl...
Wonder how BTC will trade tomorrow?
Do you know what they call people who run around screaming because they have suspicions and no facts?
Err... fonestars?
LMAO!!
max kaiser had some guests on his programs and they said that everything will be bitcoin and so that pretty much wraps things up
The NSA is watching you. You're not a criminal so you don't think it matters. Well, as Stalin’s notorious chief of secret police famously said, "Show me the man and I will find the crime".
http://www.planbeconomics.com/2013/10/show-me-man-and-i-will-find-crime....
WaPo had very good article that is more compelling than this graphic. Don't miss it.
http://tinyurl.com/nzs5w64
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Yes, fonestars!
By golly, a new term for the UrbanDictionary!
Kanye West?
All of this chatter about bitcoin, NSA, hash this, hash that, is meaningless as long as bitcoin keeps getting more expensive to own.
That is all that matters.
Who cares how expensive it is to own? That's irrelevant.
The market is completely illiquid.
If you own a lot of Bitcoins you cannot liquidate them without crashing their value. The price is a distraction.
All that matters is that they gain acceptance and that criminals and terrorists and tax evaders see fit to use them. That way the NSA can finally connect all the dots.
Ever notice how a lot of the new phones have non-removable batteries?
At least a jealous wife or girlfriend is good for an occasional roll in the hay or a BJ ... these F'ers are simply a black hole of need to know.
thats because you cant tun them off.... yep you think you do cos the screen is dead but nope
its on......
It it's wrapped in aluminum foil, its off.
Exactly. You don't need a removable battery. Just some common, household aluminum foil.
What do I do for a hat if I wrap it around my phone?
Buy, like, a bulk pack from costco or something. Its a precious metal investment.
Aluminium bitchez!!
I resemble that remark
farraday cage. boom problem solved.
And be sure you know how to deal with foil properly...
http://zapatopi.net/afdb/
just save a mylar wrapper from some pc part-- like a hard drive.
drop your fone in there if you want to put it in solitary confinement.
All you've shown me so far is an idiotic quest to go further and further down the rabbit hole of "what if" scenarios to try and explain why the NSA and other agencies would willingly destroy the free lunch they enjoy under dollar hegemony.
At least it's amusing.
Well if you still believe all that shite you just posted you will be able to exercise some self discipline and NOT click on this link showing a picture of Satoshi Nakamoto AKA Dr. Tatsuaki Okamoto.
http://www.ntt.co.jp/RD/OFIS/organization/fellow_1_en.html
Oh dear you are going to click on it... Your belief system is crumbling.
OH NO!!!
He found a picture of a Japanese cryptographer!!
SELL YOUR BITCOINS NOW!!!!
He worked at Bell Labs in the 90's?
Oh my. I don't know what that means, but I'm sure if I dug a little deeper, I would be re-assured that the wrenching feeling in my gut is justified.
What is the "Malleus Malificarum"? (What do I win?)
And why not it is just them sniping back at the same people calling his precious stock market a bubble.
Wasn't that Greenspan's job to create bubbles? Here we go.
IOW, Greenspan blows!
All of this exuberant irrationality is getting tiresome.
I'm much more concerend about the high-tech NSA hookers who always seem to know EXACTLY how much cash is in my pocket.....damn them to hell!
Note to self - Always carry an umbrella.
I am still offering 1oz gold maple to anyone who can prove NSA envolvement in Bitcoin's creation. There is no reason to believe this when the NSA went and infiltrated western technology companies to deliberately weaken their crypto. The crypto you mentioned before were found to contain weaknesses, not backdoors.
It is true that we have nothing to do with Bitcoin.
The rest of it... well, we have a job to do.
...the objective is to develop a 3D urban recognition and exploitation system...a network of microsensors, creating the ability to map an entire city and activities within it, in all 3D, all the time."
- source [redacted]
This is what the NSA were doing with your tax dollars in 1996, that's 12 years before Satoshi launched BTC.
http://groups.csail.mit.edu/mac/classes/6.805/articles/money/nsamint/nsa...
Can you tell me how this NSA design differs from BTC?
Satoshi is a fucking plagiarist.
Satoshi is not a plagarist and I have said continually that p2p currency has been discussed going back into the 90's! I rember a guy doing a presentation on it at one of the first DEFCONs!
Yawn,
Satoshi Nakamoto is a pseudonym of the NSA cryptologist Tatsuaki Okamoto who wrote about a dozen papers on digital crypto currencies from 1991 to 1995.
e.g.
1. Tony Eng and Tatsuaki Okamoto, Single-Term Divisible Electronic Coins, Advances in Cryptology EUROCRYPT '94, Springer-Verlag, pp. 311-323.
2. Tatsuaki Okamoto, An Efficient Divisible Electronic Cash Scheme, Advances in Cryptology - CRYPTO '95, Springer-Verlag, pp. 438-451.
3. Tatsuaki Okamoto and Kazuo Ohta, Universal Electronic Cash, Advances in Cryptology - CRYPTO '91, Springer-Verlag, pp. 324-337.
Satoshi very well may have been Ex-INT. CIA/NSA are the biggest employers of cryptographers so it would not surprise me to learn that. It doesn't discourage me in the least bit from using Bitcoin and would make perfect sense why he wishes to remain anon in that case.
Okamoto also owns a string of patents which cover Bitcoin and are still valid for another 3-5 years, so he has every right to sue you for triple damages in a US court any time.
How are you only learning about this now??
Electronic cash implementing method using an anonymous public key license (1996)
https://www.google.co.uk/patents/EP0772165B1?cl=en&dq=ininventor:%22Tats...
Electronic cash implementing method with a surveillance institution, and user apparatus and surveillance institution apparatus for implementing the same (1997)
https://www.google.co.uk/patents/EP0807910B1?cl=en&dq=ininventor:%22Tats...
Method and apparatus for implementing hierarchical electronic cash (1997)
https://www.google.co.uk/patents/EP0810563A3?cl=en&dq=ininventor:%22Tats...
Electronic cash implementing method for issuer having electronic cash balance counters, corresponding issuer equipment and recording medium having recorded thereon a program for execution of the method (1998)
https://www.google.co.uk/patents/EP0926637B1?cl=en&dq=ininventor:%22Tats...
I think that is checkmate fonestar
Satoshi is going to go to court and sue for a POC that he released under a pseudonym and the BTC clients are GPL? Good luck! You guys are fucking braindead.
I couldn't give a fuck what he does. That the business of him and the NSA.
There's a paper trail a mile long and it all leads to the NSA (the Mecca of cryptology).
I don't know or care why they did this, but I do know that the NSA is not a fucking charity.
As far as I am concerned BTC is a Trojan and I don't want it anywhere near me. You couldn't pay me to take them.
Perhaps they consider central banks a national security threat. Would make sense.
FONESTAR HAS EXPERIENCED OCCIDENTAL FATALITY.
Agree.
Dead as a fucking door nail.
Discovering that you've been turned over is a very hard lesson.
Lifespan of Bitcoin? Till the patents run out in 3-5 years and then dump, unless of course, someone finds out in the meantime that they own two bitcoins of the same number...
Don't know who minted the things - Mulligan's, maybe, but a 1oz silver "Bitcoin" sold on eBay today for north of 150.00. For the low low price of 28.00, one could buy a copper one...
Maybe I'm just old-fashioned, but I still believe WC Fields, and a sucker is born every minute. No cryptocurrencies for me until we have achieved interstellar travel at hyperspatial velocities. Precious Metals rock, full stop. Cryptobullshit smells fishy. Go Elon Musk! In the meantime, Fonestar, better hedge your bets.
on a long enough timeline, this site will be full of chicken littles
Oh please just shut the fuck up go away or disembowel yourself on YouTube or something constructive.
Jesus...
Go make some friends in a recovery center or something.
For someone who calls everyone a moron and go read up on Bitcoin before they spout off, you're clueless. Bitcoin is not GPL
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/README.md
LicenseBitcoin is released under the terms of the MIT license. See COPYING for more information or see http://opensource.org/licenses/MIT.
Read my damn post I said the QT client is GPL!!
Are you fucking retarded:
http://bitcoin.org/en/download
Bitcoin-Qt is a community-driven free software project, released under the MIT license.
Okamoto also owns a string of patents which cover Bitcoin and are still valid for another 3-5 years, so he has every right to sue you for triple damages in a US court any time.
Survey says wrong the applicant is who owns the actual patent which is Nippon Telegraph And Telephone Corporation. Secondly the patent application specifically is for transmission between a trustee and bank not for general commerce or transfers. Anyone can bypass that easily by tailoring the application to something not involving a bank directly accepting crypto-currencies to get around the patient. Why do you think the banks won't directly deal with bitcoin... Thirdly and most importantly since bitcoin doesn't violate those patents and based all on opensource no company or bank can play the patent game to shut it down either and that little fact the internet is worldwide patent protection is kind of useless it would be like suing every person who shared mp3s on napster. You saw how that worked out for the music industry.
Lastly and most importantly by writting the patients the way he did he essentially cock blocked the whole banking industry from being able to squash and privatize crypto-currency while it is in it's incubation stage. NSA plant or not if this was in collusion with the banks it wouldn't have been done in this manner.
Nice try.....
Makes me wonder if he went "Snowden" on the NSA and took BC with him "for the people"..
yeah cause bitcoin just like came out last month or so... you guys are just full of stupid
handy excuse to a curious coincidence
Having read the MIT paper, it calls for a central bank to control the database in which transactions are recorded. Which is entirely different to Bitcoin, in that the database (blockchain) is totally distributed between all users, you need an updated copy of the blockchain to make any Bitcoin transaction. That paper mentions "bank" over a hundred times; there are no banks involved in the creation and distribution of BTC.
You might as well link to the following article (a more likely Satoshi influence) from 1995:
http://orlingrabbe.com/money1.htm
BTW is your statement here meant to convey something meaningful about BTC?
I guess you miss the bigger prize in bitcoin and crypto-currencies in general for the "intelligence" agencies. By giving people incentive to brute force SHA 256 which is in essence what bitcoin mining is taking a SHA 256 key and working backwards they are compling a database of all keys and decryption solutions that can be easily completely solved later on aka successfully mined coins which if they did on their own they could never do it this fast without providing incentive to the average joe to do it for them. Satoshi and other people involved in setting up the math end most certainly received seed money either directly or indirectly from these agencies and it is pretty easy to see why when it look at from what is important to them which is cracking encryption. By monetizing SHA256 encryption they've given the public sector a reason to crack it and spend money on asics for example just to work on that one problem. They don't even have to budget for it themselves now.
Geez you people don't think do you. You people need to think in the same narrow minded terms of other people and groups instead of just projecting your own narrow minded views of the world when looking at everything. People around here especially the bitcoin haters sound like the old when you only have a hammer every problem looks like a nail reasoning.
Crypto-currency ain't going anywhere since these agencies have enough dirt on Benny 'shalom' and the bankstas along with the politicians that anyone that goes against them who is systematically a threat will be outed and they know it.
The real potential in the ASIC miners from their perspective is their password cracking potential and finding flaws in SHA256 along with the extra computing power thrown at the problem that would otherwise not be available.
Give people incentive to make alot of money with something they understand and they will have a go at it.
If you read the press, you'll see that TPTB are actually embracing bitcoin ... at first I thought it had something to do with extracting value from the millions of $ they netted by closing down Silk Road, but this would not be ZH without a little conspiracy theory, namely that Bitcoin, unllke cash, is very traceable and is therefore quite useful to the purposes of TPTB.
If they encourage it, it well fits their plan.
Plus, while the world thinks it's anonymous and secure.....
Guess fucking what?
I've said it before and I'll say it again for all the short sighted people a crypto-currency standard is ultimately going to be part of the internet delivery protocol itself as the standards are rewritten to reflect the fact the internet is no longer a communication network but distribution network. The encryption is going to be part of the transport layer and the currency address and other object information will be in the internet layer or some variation of whatever new standard ultimately is agreed upon. This will allow countries to block/regulate traffic and money flows a lot easier when the packets are object based with this extra information. It also provides businesses with copyright and other intelectual property protection in this manner. That is going to be general direction as things evolve.
What you describe sounds like a completely ruined and tyrannical internet. That isn't evolution.
Doesn't everything go that route sooner or later? Unless people evolve also for the better this is how the story will most likely play out like it has over and over so far. But from that something open and freer will rise while the lessons are still fresh, real and tangible in the people's minds. Cat and mouse.
To be honest, you really should not blame the criminal acts of uncivil behavior on the people in general when it's being committed against them by a select few of politically connected insiders. It's just disingenuous and dishonest.
Not to mention free satellite tv when the ASICs run out of coins to mint. Unintended consequences are a fascinating phenomena.
I totally agree.
TPTB always ensure they have control.
"They" had been contemplating a separate "business" Internet, but I think that there's a realization that this might end up being way too costly and difficult. So, an update to IP might very well be the way...
It just amazes me how people here can understand the failings of "central planning" yet not see that ALL of this is being pushed toward full control/accountability- the Internet belongs to TPTB (all the various "keep the Internet free" stuff was merely another "orange revolution" to keep us addicted to their points of control).
Think of the Internet as an evolved Khyber Pass...
Bitcoin.. the ultimate in social engineering?
Wow, that's genius.
People always say "Oh, such and such is so encrypted, it can't be broken!"
If all the solutions have been mapped in advance, it isn't so hard...like carrying around a ring of janitors keys, and knowing which key goes where.
I'll offer a one ounce Perth Mint bar if you can prove the NSA is not involved in BTC.
The burden of proof is on the one making the accusations!
The burden of proof is on the speculator. Which you would think would be him, but is actually you.
Nice logic there. God forbid the "metals only" crew reinterpret the laws and.... oh wait, they're not "tangible" anyway. Nevermind.
It's not logic- it's wordplay. It's a step beyond logic. You won't find me defending speculation in any of its forms.
"The burden of proof is on the one making the accusations!"
Nah, that's the presumption under the old paradigm where individual rights and liberties actually matter ... in the "new normal," the burden of proof is on the slave.
Yeah, I was gonna let that one of his sit & ferment for a while.
But you're absolutely right.
For anyone who has ever been charged by the state, they pile so many bullshit charges on you (to make you cop "to something") you have to prove your innocence instead of them proving your guilt of anything.
It is, exactly bassackwards now.
How convenient would it have been, for a prosecutor, in the timeframe of Rodney King, to tell a defense lawyer representing a young client who defended himself from an actual assault & battery, whereby the assailant wound up in the hospital (unconscious, with a fractured skull AS THE VICTIM, of all things) that if the defendant chooses to go to a jury trial (because the real assailant was black)...he will face the additional charge of a hate crime?
Yes, that was me.
I actually had some idiot say "Well, just have one of your black friends vouch for you as not being a racist!" I'm like WTF? Do you want one of my real black buds or one I just pull off the street and pay to say it? What the hell does that even mean in this context? Someone has to have black, yellow, red, brown friends TO PROVE he's not a racist? Isn't there some level of proof anymore, like a sheet hanging in the closet or sumpin?
I almost kicked his nerdy little white-boy ass for breathing the same air as me but it was at the court house...lol.
Fonestar is an idiot, if anyone ever had any doubt.
i think fonestar just likes shooting stupid in a barrel
You sound like Paul Krugman.
I'll offer a 1 kilo gold bar to anyone who can prove that the NSA isn't secretly controlled by the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
That picture with the brown thing on the end looks like it came from a large bowl of Colon Blow.
This entire economy is the Human Centipede.
I'll give you a plus one for mentioning the term "Colon Blow".
That was the SNL commercial they ran right before the tailpipe fresheners right?
---Pastafarianism reveres pirates
---NSA does not like pirates
---Flying spaghetti monster wants you to be happy
---NSA wants you dead or in a FEMA camp
---FSM doesn't really care what you think or do
---NSA wants to know what you are thinking and doing
Please PM me for my shipping address
All hail the one true deity, his Whole(wheat)yness the Flying Spaghetti Monster (meatballs be upon him), and the one true Church of Pastafarianism.
May you be blessed by the touch of His divine noodly appendage.
Ramen
Can you provide a hint on whether the Spaghetti Tree has anything to do with it?
Your posit is certainly as plausible as the idea that the NSA has no involvement in BTC or the underlying technologies.
Say does anyone remember over a decade ago when Intel started using a GUID in their CPUs? If the NSA can inflitrate crypto corps and standards bodies you can bet that if you have Intel inside the intel is going to the NSA.
Ship it bro! I killed that mofo last week! 4 kilos to anyone that can prove i dint.
Since you can never prove a negative, that is a fairly safe offer. If you were to offer the bar for the following: "If you can't demonstrate that the hypothesis that the NSA is involved with BTC can be rejected with a 99.9999% significance." you might actually have a real offer. You could modulate the significance according to your paranoia about bitcoin. Personally, I prefer the old style metal ones made of real metal and not Johnson slugs.
> I am still offering 1oz gold maple to anyone ...
Is this kinda like the Cicada contest? Pretty time consuming for only a Z of gold. No one will take you up on it ... but you look like a sport for sayin' it.
Did they teach you that in propaganda school of the Americas?
Here is something to ponder...
Assuming a crypto algo does not have a backdoor and must be brute-forced open. Assume there is a large key hash like Blowfish. What better way to get many millions of CPUs working on a massively distributed brute-force attack than to offer some sort of "reward" for turning over your spare CPU cycles to busily work away.
That 100 million years of brute-force resistant crypto-algo just became a few years, and as that "reward" gets ever more popular and more and more people pile on their CPUs, it goes to days, then hours.
It would be the most brilliant con-game ever by the 3 letter folks....
Just a theory, but not an impossible one.
I still prefer my PMs because when the EMP comes a knockin, BTC is just bits.....
Regards....
"It would be the most brilliant con-game ever by the 3 letter folks...."
But, but... what IF they were giving out Bitcoin rewards?
Anyone with half a brain can see how this plays out. "Security threat" forces a back-door to exist "for your protection" against "terrorists."
BTW - EMP is WAY over exaggerated. Some good info:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1321585__ARCHIVED_THREAD____Electromagn...
http://www.empcommission.org/docs/A2473-EMP_Commission-7MB.pdf (yes, grid-based stuff is vulnerable)
Bitcoin transaction signing is protected by ECDSA, not SHA256. SHA256 is primarily used to enforce the "prove of work" needed to maintain a distributed ledger. Even if SHA256 has weaknesses, Bitcoins you own are secure unless ECDSA is broken.
ECDSA was not developed by the NSA.
Also, you can just read on bitcoin's own site, where it says it is not anonymous.
ZeroCoin will make bitcoins anonymous.
It will be nice when we have a "dark phone" as well.
Where can we look at all this open source code?
phone star who is the creator of Bitcoin and where is he today why can't we have a discussion with him directly
Maybe he doesn't want to be disappeared and killed? Or perhaps he would just rather have fans like myself field one-million inane accusations of tulip bubbles and definitely maybe EMPs?
Now suppose your first idea is a real situation for him, or even you. Would you want to be on the run or hiding and relying on BTC to buy things or Canuckian relics (either being the "IT" currency/money in this scenario)?
I'm sure not a BitCoin expert, but note it's about mathematical backdoors. you can have open source reviews until Kingdom Comes, as long as a mathematical whiz does not find the backdoor, you think your crypto is safe in the same way the Germans thought that Enigma was safe
note, I'm not saying that the "backdoor" exists, only that open source review does not give you proof
Strange how the Tsarnaevs pulled it off in light of the NSA's capabilities detailed in the Post piece, and in light of the fact that the Russians had warned the Feds about them, and the Feds had met with the Tsarnaevs. Gosh, I almost think the Feds are more interested in tracking/coercing/controlling US citizens than in monitoring/stopping 'foreign intelligence targets'
Do the Feds have a problem with John Doe? And why?
The millions of John Does could change the status quo. The Tasarnaevs? Not so much.
Pretty obvious who's the bigger (potential) threat to our beloved overlords.
Indeed
Perhaps the older Tsarnaev was considered a CIA asset.
the "interesting one" so to speak (i'm not really into this stuff with any specificity) is the Ft Hood shooter. be interesting to know if he was having any communications with anyone outside the chain of command and if so what were they and how.
There was some sort of legal support direct to his case from DOJ courtesy some sort of "workplace violence outreach effort" program but I didn't take the time to research it. I did find this article and it's enough to piss any reasonable American off:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/lloyd-billingsley/no-justice-for-victims-of-nidal-hasans-terrorism/
Tsarnevs = fall out boys.
Check the Saudi Roster.
John Doe is a fat, lazy, dumbass who just wants to watch *whatever* and can't be bothered to know who is doing what in his name.
Epitaph: It was time to change the channel.
The Brits used the RSA algorithm, before it was named that, in 1955. It was re-discovered, not passed on, to Rivest, Shamir, Adleman.
> More FUD, try harder.
Give it up, spook ... everyone here has your -number.
Good try fonestar, but Occident Moron will keep spewing the same thing over and over.
Maybe he's a "Numbers Station" for the CIA, a simple perl script running on a virtual server instance somwhere in Langley.
What a buffoon.
What's amazing (or perhaps not) is any dolt can cut and paste any link here, sprinkle on some technical jargon and the idiots will buy it as evidence that the NSA is involved in some nefarious plot with Bitcoin. Everything we do in computing, networking and cryptography has roots in military and intelligence agencies. I wish these morons would develop the same fear in their PCs and burn them now!
That opening sentence is not helping your argument any...
I don't know what you said BUT it sounds pretty convincing to me
a bunch of exclusive ORing and taps off the chain with more ORing... Maybe, yes, no ... At least thats what I remember from KG school.. its Been a while...
Bitcoin can be hacked at any time right now. It is common knowledge. The power of it's cryptograhpy is the peer to peer confirmation of the chain. Someone would have to out compute more than 50% of the network to override this. I think last time I read somewhere the calculated cost to aquire the neccessary computing hardware is somewhere close $1 billion.
And you'd have to get all that hardware set up and running in a very timely fashion. Because the network is growing every day, they'd be trying to run a footrace on a treadmill that is speeding up all the time.
Or you could use the quantum computer at the NSA on your coffee break.
This has been pretty thoroughly discussed. Even if a quantum computer of such capability existed (and it doesn't, even with the NSA's budget), it reduces the keyspace by half the number of bits in the key (which is truly a massive improvement, inconceivably fast), meaning the NSA might be able to brute force at best a few bitcoin addresses over a hundred years.
I really wish people would get over this NSA is all powerful and they have magic computers myth. Everything they accomplish is pretty much through lying and stealing, not code breaking or superior computing capabilities.
Sad to see minds converted into paranoid fudge where nothing comes into being without the blessings of NSA and nothing works without the blessings of NSA. If these people were half as powerful as they claim everyone would already be living in a prison camp.
You must not fly or cross America's borders much. Americans are already living in a prison camp.
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"Sad to see minds converted into paranoid fudge where nothing comes into being without the blessings of NSA and nothing works without the blessings of NSA. If these people were half as powerful as they claim everyone would already be living in a prison camp."
What, like Dread Pirate Roberts?
> ... meaning the NSA might be able to brute force at best a few bitcoin addresses over a hundred years.
Ignore the geometric rate of technology at your own peril.
What would Kurtzweil say?
Which leads to all sorts to all sorts of questions, which I will get to in due course (away from my iPhone...)
Half of the space shuttle missions were classified DOD ops, and the satellites that provide 2 meter resolution for google maps are leftover scraps from the 60s. You think the government doesn't have secret technology?
Your point can't be stressed enough. You think the most advanced aircraft they have is the F-35? You think they've unveiled their most advanced computer tech?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
You probably don't believe they can turn on your phone's mic and camera either?
Military science was taught pass/fail when I was in college, so most of us took it. They told us then (1978) that we had satellites that could produce images which could detect the brand of golf ball on tee from orbit.
seek--and don't forget rats--ratfink informers (aka pieces of shit)
My cousin (PHD/Physics) and I developed a quantum camera of sorts. Every picture we get back from those other universes/worlds that has something in the frame looks like some type of aquatic alien creature. Freaky shit.
That the NSA can crack SHA-2 could be tested easily.
And ECDSA? And every wallet on Earth?
"In August 2013, it was revealed that bugs in some implementations of the Java class SecureRandom sometimes generated collisions in the k value. As discussed above, this allowed solution of the private key, in turn allowing stealing Bitcoins from the containing wallet on Android app implementations, which are built using Java and rely on ECDSA to authenticate transactions.[8]"
From Wikipedia. ECDSA doesn't matter when you fuck up once with the maths.
Bitcoin is all well and good in a perfect world. This is not a perfect world. Ergo, theft.
Are they tracking PM's? Or at least the ones that haven't been involved in unfortunate maritime incidents
Ron Rivest would be interested to know that his MD2, MD4 and MD5 algorithms were released by the NSA...
I'm going to call FUD on this one.
BTW, a collision is not a "mathematical backdoor" as much as a natural evolution of more powerful computer hardware.
Switch the protocol to a new hash function if SHA-2 is compromised more than it already is. Its as simple as that. Any others?
Don't pretend you don't wish you had some bitcoins. Get some free: http://freebitco.in/?r=25727
You have pumped this site enough that I have to suspect that you have some interest in it? Eh?