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After struggling for many months, Nelson Mandela has passed away at age 95. Leaders from South Africa's Zuma, New Zealand's Key, UK's Cameron, and now President Obama seemed to be ready with prepared statements and Obama is due to address the nation at 1720ET to mourn the "inspirational leader, remarkable man."

  • *ZUMA SAY MAY MANDELA'S SOUL `REST IN PEACE'
  • *KEY SAYS MANDELA ``INSPIRATIONAL LEADER, REMARKABLE MAN''
  • *U.K.'S CAMERON: DOWNING ST TO FLY FLAG AT HALF MAST FOR MANDELA

 

By way of interest, here is the handwritten note committing Mandela to prison...

 

 

 

 

 

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Thu, 12/05/2013 - 18:40 | 4219341 chaartist
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What a bad timing for Hollande to cover unemployment with invasion and now Mandela. Bad day

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 18:42 | 4219352 Save_America1st
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so...one less Marxist p.o.s. is dead...well...bye!

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 18:42 | 4219353 booboo
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Wonder if his gang mamma communist ex wife Winnie will attend or will she be leading a necklacing party for a rival gang member.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 18:43 | 4219360 Silver Bullet
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The racists don't miss an opportunity, do they?

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 18:48 | 4219383 Oldballplayer
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So if we point out this guy was a communist, we are racist?  Don't be an idiot.

No one here thinks aparthied was a good idea.  I havent seen anyone write that.

We do think communist terrorists are bad.

 

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 18:57 | 4219420 Save_America1st
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All losers equate hating Marxists, Communists, Statists, Fascists, Collectivists, Socialists, Leftists, Progressives, i.e. Regressives, etc. etc. etc. with "racism"

That's the only arguement an ignorant turd of that ilk has against facts, truth, and logic.

Here's a quote from a kick ass dude, Thomas Sowell...who just happens to be Black:

"Do you know what a racist is?  Anyone winning and argument against a Liberal."

And the Black Left hate him...does that make them "racists"? LOL 

idiots...

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 19:09 | 4219504 DIgnified
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"Do you know what a racist is?  Anyone winning and argument against a Liberal."

Sligtly edited to fit the space limits: "Racism is winning an argument against a leftist"

 

You just gave me my new miocrobio at HP.  TYVM. 

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 19:31 | 4219603 mofreedom
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SA needs the minimum wage to afford those pricey lip rings.

In America, SA (the gas station) means Super Africa.

No SA.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 03:14 | 4220637 trader1
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i know people like you.  

you are also an agw/climate change denier.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 03:52 | 4220657 sylviasays
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yawn...

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 08:04 | 4220821 trader1
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awww, how cute.

i have a stalker.

XOXOXOXOXO ;-)

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 08:08 | 4220826 FredFlintstone
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Get the fuck outa here, u make me puke.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 09:49 | 4221020 trader1
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i'm your worst hangover2

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 19:58 | 4219684 akarc
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Yes "we" (who is we?) do. We also think rogue capitalist terrorism is bad

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 20:10 | 4219714 Silver Bullet
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I'm the idiot? I've been on this message board since the beginning, back when it was just a blog in 2009. I rarely post because of the ever-increasing amount of lowbrow, white trash idiots that troll this board. It was really nice at the beginning, reading the comments between people who debated facts, not their particular hatreds. But I digress.

And by the way, if any of you RACISTS have to use the words, something like, "I don't mean to be a racist BUT..." you're a racist. Period. End of story.

Additionally, there is nothing wrong with being a communist, it doesn't warrant you celebrating someone's death, or using it as a PRETEXT to launch your increasingly delusional diatribes on Jews, Hispanics, or blacks (this case).

But, what do I know? The last person I actually supported in a presidential election was Ron Paul.

Now go ahead, crazies...attack me, threaten me, etc.

Tyler, is there anyway to only be able to see your posts and block the comments section so as not to get sucked in with the goons? Thanks.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 20:55 | 4219893 TheMeatTrapper
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Additionally, there is nothing wrong with being a communist

Oh yes there is. A communist doesn't believe in personal liberty and individual freedom. A communist doesn't believe that a citizen is a sovereign being. 

Fuck communists and fuck you, you damned dumfuck.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 21:04 | 4219897 Ms. Erable
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Noting wrong with being a communist? Really? So you think it's OK to condone or perpetrate government-initiated slavery, murder, and genocide? Maybe you should engage your brain instead of your vagina when posting. Reading a book instead of watching the boob tube might give ya a leg up, too.

 

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 21:11 | 4219945 mofreedom
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SB, re:  And by the way, if any of you RACISTS have to use the words, something like, "I don't mean to be a racist BUT..." you're a racist. Period. End of story.

is just a way of asuaging the guilt we may feel at dispensing the facts man and potentially hurting people that have thin skins or anti-western tendencies.  hell, I can joke about everybody, myslef included, but communism and statism is NO LAUGHING MATTER!

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 00:42 | 4220415 Kobe Beef
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blah blah blah racist blah blah racists blah blah blah

You Trotskyists need to come up with a new attack.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 03:16 | 4220640 trader1
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+1

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 08:04 | 4220822 FredFlintstone
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The only people on the entire planet who can be racist seem to be white males from the west. So full of shit.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 18:46 | 4219369 Son of Captain Nemo
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And a criminal fascist dictator with blood on his hands is going to honor him?

Well the only way that will ever get any merit is if he takes his own peace medal and lays it on Mandela's coffin and vows to follow his path for the remaining 1120 days in office.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 19:54 | 4219675 akarc
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"criminal fascist dictator"

Probably more accurate label than communist. Evidenced by his corporate buddies and his Justice Departments refusal to prosecute the moneyed priviledged. Funny way to throw a marxist revolution.  Though I still prefer the label Kleptocrat.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 18:51 | 4219390 DIgnified
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Obama speaking admiration for a political prisoner, while persecuting political dissidents in his own purported country.  Next up Chineese Permier Li Keqiang will speak about how much he likes the Dali Lamma. 

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 22:53 | 4220178 tsuki
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This is the only relevant post that i have seen.  Congrats!

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 18:53 | 4219408 Save_America1st
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How to be a good Communist by Nelson Mandela

https://archive.org/details/HowToBeAGoodCommunist

RIP scumbag :)

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 21:22 | 4219976 mofreedom
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Bullish for tires!!!

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 23:13 | 4220218 Wahooo
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Great link, thanks. Mandela was a fucking low-brow, ignorant Communist with envy for everyone else's property. Damn him and his bitch wife. They sure turned a nation into the land of milk and honey! Fucking crook politicians hiding behind their skin color.

 

"In our own country, the struggles of the oppressed people are guided by the SouthAfrican Communist Party and inspired by its policies. The aim of the S.A.C.P. is to defeat the Nationalist government and to free the people of South Africa from the evils of racial discrimination and exploitation and to build a classless or socialist society in which the land, the mines, the mills, our . . . . . (unreadable)

Under a Communist Party Government South Africa will become a land of milk andhoney. Political, economic and social rights will cease to be enjoyed by Whites only. They will be shared equally by Whites and Non-Whitevs. There will be enough land andvhouses for all. There will be no unemployment, starvation and disease."

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 18:56 | 4219418 Blano
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Any fucking excuse for the TeleNegro to blather on, I swear.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 19:03 | 4219465 Save_America1st
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well he's the head Marxist in charge (HMIC) so he has to give his fellow p.o.s. Marixist bruthuh a sendoff and score some on air points for the Communist movement and all. 

CommieBlaster.com - love it! 

http://www.commieblaster.com/obama/

 

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 18:58 | 4219432 chump666
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Meaningless to me, as are most cult of personalities.  All the while we have a world that is sinking fast and no 'heroes' are going to save us.  Some poor sucker out there won't make it pass 20yrs.  He had a good run.  Probably looked forward to leaving.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 18:58 | 4219434 JR
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Nelson Mandela was a killer, a communist and became the key to opening his country to the plunder of imperialists.

South Africa became a Third World country under Mandela:

“It went from being the safest country in Africa, to being the rape and murder capital of the world. In Johannesburg, 5,000 people are murdered every year. Unemployment went from 5% in 1994 to 50% today. South Africa also has the largest number of people infected with HIV/AIDS in the world. In 2007, over 18% of adults, or 5,700,000 people had AIDS. In 2010, an estimated 280,000 died of AIDS,” according to author Pete Papaherakles

Mandela came out of prison because a banker-inspired movement originating with central planners in Western countries, wanted him out.  Backed by liberal media and using ruthless Communism as a tool, they wanted South Africa for its resources. Mandela faithfully put the globalists’ game in play and the genocide of Whites and confiscation of Whites' property continues to this day unabated.

Mandela’s key adviser was a Lithuanian-born Jewish Communist, Joe Slovo, who officially was named secretary general of the South African Communist Party in 1986 and who planned many of the terrorist bombings and killings in which Mandela took part.

Mandela and his Communist pal, Slovo, actually are on film chanting a pledge to kill all Whites in South Africa.

The result for South Africa is the coming fate for the EU and America if the globalists, financed by the Fed, aren’t stopped -- you know, the US and the EU where all those flags are now flying at half mast in sorrow for the passing of this Communist leader.

In 1962, Mandela was arrested along with 19 others, half of whom were White communist Jews, in a police raid of ANC headquarters at a farm owned by Andrew Goldreich, also a communist Jew, at Rivonia, a Johannesburg suburb.

“In the Rivonia Trial, which took place between 1963 and 1964, the defendants were tried for 221 acts of sabotage designed to overthrow the government and conspiring to aid foreign “military units, when they invaded SA to further the objects of communism.

“The prosecutor, Percy Yutar said at the trial that ‘production requirements for munitions were sufficient to blow up a city the size of Johannesburg.’

Escaping the death sentence, Mandela was given life in prison, only to be released in 1990 after an international campaign lobbied for his release.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 19:26 | 4219577 max2205
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Communist jew....that doesnt even sound right

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 19:49 | 4219656 akarc
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On this site Black "Communist jew" is the ultimate bogeyman.  Gauranteed to generate boocoo clicks.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 19:52 | 4219667 Catullus
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It's a fox paw to suggest otherwise.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 20:57 | 4219900 TheMeatTrapper
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Why don't you try refuting his points, rather than painting the membership here with such a broad, and innacurate brush?

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 08:40 | 4220867 akarc
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Using David Duke as a source is self refuting thank you.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 19:59 | 4219689 JR
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And Marx was a secret Baptist? And that darn Trotsky covered up his Lutheran parentage, always denying that he was baptized as a Lutheran?

Winston Churchill, in an essay published in the February 8, 1920, issue of the London Illustrated Sunday Herald, warned of the crucial role played by the Jews in Bolshevism: Bolshevism is a “worldwide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality… There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews… With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews….”

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 08:07 | 4220824 Cloud9.5
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Have you ever heard of a fellow named Marx?

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 19:04 | 4219477 Catullus
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Now if only the Israelis would end the apartheid with the Palestinians. Doubt that will be mentioned.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 19:08 | 4219494 DIgnified
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Its not an "apartheid."  Those pesky Palestinans keep throwing themselves in front of Israeli live-fire and moving IDF vehicles. 

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 20:58 | 4219901 combatsnoopy
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Israel has an army?  

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 21:47 | 4220058 Kirk2NCC1701
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They have a "Coalition of the Willing".  Aka "USA".

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 19:06 | 4219483 Make_Mine_A_Double
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I'm sure we'll have 10 days of mourning and half staff for this buttfucking communist - I mean St. Mandela TM - not OBozo.

Anything to get ACA off the front pages with his sheepistani camp followers.

At least it wasn't that utterly NAW-Z-ATING POS St. Desmond TuTu TM.  

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 19:31 | 4219604 knukles
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Thank God it weren't Lewis Farrakan.
But then again, there are parts of Chicago nobody'd really miss now, would they?

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 19:16 | 4219537 WallowaMountainMan
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fascinating that a group of folks can read that a black man formed a revolution against his white suppressors and was labeled a 'terroist' by those white suppressors and their alley, the certainly racist 1960's u.s. of a., and take that label as gospel.

its gotta be they're funnin us.

 

:)

 

 

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 03:20 | 4220641 trader1
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+1

any guess to the deomographic size for the following type of poster on ZH:

aged 50+ years,

balding white male,

don't like to think they're racist but they are,

libertarian-republican-tea party tendencies 

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 03:58 | 4220659 sylviasays
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racist blah blah blah bigot blah blah blah

you be just another brainwashed leftist slave on the bankrupt democrap entitlement plantation

go back to whoring your worthless drugged-out ass out on craigslist

 

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 06:30 | 4220743 trader1
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if you only knew the truth

you'd be shitting your pants

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 08:01 | 4220816 FredFlintstone
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So what is the truth? US Gov drone pilot who knows where we all live?

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 08:16 | 4220834 trader1
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truth = [(what is known + what you think is known) x (what is not known + what you think is not known)]?

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 19:18 | 4219551 ciscokid
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Rest In Peace Madiba.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 19:34 | 4219594 Devotional
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Fuck EVERYONE who disrespected Madiba on this day. Zerohedge is FULL of racist white south africans AND racist redneck AMERICANS. Hey assholes, fuck you! What have you ASSHOLES done lately? What have you done to make a difference in someone else's life? Stacking gold and Silver? Zerohedge followers are actually pathetic and I am disappointed. FUCK YOU ASSHOLES! Hasta mother fuckers. This is my last comment in here and may AMERICA go to the shithole too ... then it will be my turn to trash you assholes! One more thing, I hope the next crash wipes you out permanently. Then you can all go bomb or invade some country. WAR CRIMINALS! May your petro-dollar burn burn burn.

olo

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 19:33 | 4219610 knukles
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RIP
36 weeks, 6 days old

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 19:34 | 4219615 Devotional
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olo to your 36 weeks asshole. Yes, that is how long I have been active on this redneck site. May OBAMA fuck your country up GOOOOOD.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 19:45 | 4219647 akarc
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"may AMERICA go to the shithole too ..."

It has and is as fast as possible! 

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 19:51 | 4219654 ebworthen
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Some respectful posts as well, and the disgust is more at the hero worship, the sainthood, the fawning rabid elevation of individuals beyond something human by society versus the person themselves or their accomplishments.

Here in the U.S. the adulation of Obama and "electing a Black President" was particularly ironic since he is only half-Black and yet we aren't supposed to discriminate based on race or gender.

The juvenile idiocy will continue when Hillary Clinton is elected and the celebrations over electing a person with a vagina will commence; concurrent with the admonitions and decrees that no one be judged by their gender.

Anger at solving discrimination with more discrimination (and debt with more debt) spills over and blurs the lines and the ability to judge individuals as individuals.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 20:16 | 4219734 Jendrzejczyk
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The big donors here in DC are gearing up for Hillary. The R's better pull a God out of their asses to win the next one.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 20:04 | 4219699 squexx
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The ape was a murderer, a commie, and criminal. Fuck you too, asshole! Hopefully, the white South Africans have some nukes handy when the blacks chimp out!

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 20:45 | 4219830 knotjammin2
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Damn!!  You really don't know Mandela's history. You might try getting off your lazy ass and doing a little research before you start condeming anyone.  Madela was a slug that allow countless deaths of both black and white inocent people.  You are a classic turd!!!

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 21:34 | 4220017 tony wilson
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John Pilger - Apartheid Did Not Die

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRlh2nUWrzs

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 23:20 | 4220235 Son of Captain Nemo
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Thanks for my continuing education with this.  I'm a huge fan of Pilger but never saw this one.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 22:27 | 4220124 Agstacker
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Much anger I sense in you...

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 23:16 | 4220225 Wahooo
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So long dickhead. I do plenty to help others - without killing them, putting necklaces around them, terrorising them, and the things you idiot hero-worshippers adore. Are you not capable of ANY independent thought????

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 23:38 | 4220277 AchtungAffen
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Heh, I know what they're doing. Sticking their heads in the libertarian sand while constantly fearing being raped by a "wrong" pantone color skinned man. Great minds those at Zerohedge.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 23:50 | 4220308 DirkDiggler11
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Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out, and FUCK YOU !

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 00:00 | 4220323 squexx
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I haven't assassinated anyone like that ape Mandela did. What was once a prosperous 1st world country is now a 3rd world ni9 infested hellhole.

China will take over SA, and destroy any blacks in their way of land and resources. They will do this all over Africa. They killed 50 million of their own under Mao, and they are some of the most racist people on the planet.

Good riddance!

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 00:43 | 4220421 AchtungAffen
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"China will take over SA, and destroy any blacks in their way of land and resources. They will do this all over Africa. They killed 50 million of their own under Mao, and they are some of the most racist people on the planet."

Not worse than yankees though...

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 00:45 | 4220422 Kobe Beef
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blah blah racist blah blah

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 07:56 | 4220811 FredFlintstone
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From 30,000 ft here is how it looks. Group of settlers land on the tip of Africa. Make something out of nothing. Then it gets stolen. This is now happening all over the western world by the invading hordes.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 19:30 | 4219595 kchrisc
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While I have nothing but contempt for politicians. However, there are just a few that one can admire, if only just a little. Mandela is one of those. Some may label him a terrorist, but that was just the tactic he and his used against those of a mighty criminal and violent oppressive government--our turn is coming. Next was his ideology which I will just say was nieve at best.

He should be remembered for courageously fighting the criminals of the South African government for 30 years FROM prison and for coming to power and transitioning the country peacefully to a new era.

RIP

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 19:30 | 4219598 robertocarlos
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My aunt died this morning. I didn't cry, she was 80 something and spent the last two years struggling.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 20:45 | 4219841 grunk
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Sympathies.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 20:31 | 4219784 royal
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Good riddance to this kommie koon.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 20:33 | 4219793 WTFUD
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I am not a man of violence but would have no trouble putting my hand in someone's mouth and pulling their face over the back of their head if I ever felt violated,

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 20:37 | 4219799 royal
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Mandela was a well known communist...

And now the US media is slobbering all over him as though he were a saint.

Hmm...

Guess those calling CNN "communist news network" were on to something!

 

 

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 20:50 | 4219827 grunk
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Dibs on Mandela bobbleheads.

I'll waive my rights if Paul Simon and Bono promise to not sing at Mandela's funeral and to not write a song about Mandela.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 20:53 | 4219875 Disenchanted
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Nelson Mandela or...

Joe Slovo and Ronnie Kasrils

 

 

Who was really running that whole ANC shit show?


Nelson Mandela

 

Nelson and Joe in earlier days...pic

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 21:23 | 4219986 royal
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It was da JOOZ's!!

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 01:01 | 4220466 Kobe Beef
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Are you surprised? Let's see... covert money to support a violent terrorist group, media campaign to lionize the leader and delegitimize the government, coordinated trade sanctions to weaken the economy, then BOOM! Power transfer to puppet and billions worth of industrial, mining, and mineral extraction contracts to a certain self-selected group who made the whole thing possible. If it weren't the original Bolshevik revolution, it would have to be South Africa.

Follow on media campaign with Trotsky-ist racism accusations against kulaks -ahem- Boers, globalist human rights propaganda promoting the new justice and equality, and keep the damn genocide and violent death reports out of the MSM.

History doesn't repeat, unless it's the same stunt pulled by the same assholes.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 08:30 | 4220851 trader1
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those krugerrands aren't going to dig themselves out of the ground without FDI

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 21:07 | 4219932 _SILENCER
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The media has been lionizing this Mandela cat for decades, all the more reason not to believe a goddamn word of it.

 

The media has been lionizing this Obama cat since 2007, all the more reason not to believe a goddamn word of it.

 

 

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 21:25 | 4219979 orangegeek
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Plant Mandela face down and use him as a bike rack.

 

Fucking communist

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 21:50 | 4219994 tony wilson
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no truth

no reconcile

a bankers puppet

divided up the spoiils

for bankers,queen diamond jews oppenheimer and  rothschild.

what changed the honky calling up the bbc say how amazin the country is for who.

the rich in pleasure dome surrounded by security fence.

paradise for the few.

a horror show for the many.

they kept him on ice for months

maybe check what this is cover for.

 

many folks are kept on ice or programme logged to die to cover other events.

and still the rokerfella,soros and rothschild ancients go on and on and on.

save us jesus from this satanic saturn crew.

 

 

 

Mandela's greatness may be assured, but not his legacy

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dmjZ41yKXo

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 09:19 | 4220922 Arkadaba
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Pilger nails it more than any other journalist I have read on Mandela. Regardless of whether you agree with his beliefs Mandela did spend decades in prison because of them. And yes he did advocate violence as a way of over throwing a brutal non-reprensentative government ... until he didn't. As Pilger points out, Mandela did a deal with TPTB - going back on one promise to nationalize the banks - and at the same time began preaching non-violence and reconciliation. And lo and behold, he was no longer considered a "terrorist" by those wonderful peaceful paragons of virtue - the US and UK governments.

Ever wonder why all those individuals the mainstream media tells us we should admire - ghandi, mandela, jesus - are those who preach non-violence, forgiveness and peace? Think about it.

Mandela in his younger days did stand up to a brutal regime and paid for it with his freedom. And I don't care that his politics at that time included elements of communism or socialism. I applaud him for his stand. However, in later years, he did renege on those beliefs and was co-opted by those institutions and groups he had previously opposed.

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 22:13 | 4220095 zombiebank
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Does anyone care what Obama says anymore?  When he speaks there's a 75% chance its a lie!

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 22:27 | 4220120 Agstacker
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"Here the infamous 1962 document committing Nelson Mandela to prison: "

 

Not just famous...IN-famous!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIGtHhAfe8w

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 23:11 | 4220216 ToNYC
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Mandela's leaving us with only HH The Dalai Lama as a global leader and man of Kindness and power of spirit against domination by physical force, standing against racist fascists,

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 00:46 | 4220424 Kobe Beef
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blah blah racist blah blah blah

Come on Trotskyists. Blah harder!

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 04:35 | 4220680 sylviasays
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and may he join all of the other corrupt murderous authoritarian totalitarian dictators in neo-marxist fascist hell

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 08:57 | 4220891 tony wilson
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what did he do for the oppenheimer diamond mine rothschild jews.

what did he do for the bankers.

who owns all the land.

what is life like now.

rape and murder rate stabbings maimings and robbery.

car jack capitital of the world.

paradise for the honky jew few

Thu, 12/05/2013 - 23:31 | 4220263 AchtungAffen
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ZH'ers can really shit over their so called ideals as long as the "opposition" is someone whose skin pantone color code ain't the "right" one. Pantone hipocrisy?

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 04:31 | 4220676 sylviasays
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your pantone has darkened your reasoning and you ain't thinking right

in fact, your full of black stinky shit!

 

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 00:16 | 4220364 Spumoni
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I had hoped that the usual xenophobic crowd at ZH would have enough respect for someone who actually stood for human freedom, fought for it and won it from one of the most brutal prison systems on the planet, to actually stand down from their niggardly attitudes for a change. From the commentary, I'm guessing that most of you aren't actually old enough to remember how many people in the world got behind the movement to ban Apartheid. For those of you who are, I hope you feel shame. Many of the freedoms you take for granted in this world came about because of the roar of outrage that engulfed South Africa, ending a political drama comparable only to Hitler's in its perversions of justice.

Not one of you detracting pigs is tall enough to look Nelson Mandela in the eye. You have no standing to even open the gashes in your faces you call your mouths. You won't weep, for your hearts are black, and your brains are consumed with hate and selfishness. Go on, find your way through the world thinking that skin color has anything to do with humanity. Your karma will find you all, and you have doomed the shitty little souls you have to learning that God created all of this, and did not give you little pinheads the right to judge any of it. Your time here is short, and the gates to Hell will slam behind you when you leave. Your children will fight each other for your meager posessions, and not one word of wisdom will you leave for the world to enjoy when you are dead, for there is nothing but desolation in you.

Have fun with your down arrows, scum, I won't see them. Masturbate yourselves into a frenzy over the departed liberal. I have read your doggerel for five years, and shall no longer. Tenta salud, motherfuckers...

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 00:34 | 4220403 Dull Care
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It would be nice if the media ran an honest commentary. No one is perfect but you can be sure that Mandela will be canonized and that's questionable at best. After all he blames capitalists when ironically enough it was the white unions that prevented white capitalists from paying blacks. Leftism is faultless.

Can the media at least provide a balanced look at the AIDS epidemic, the unreal levels of violence which white South Africans are victimized in jaw dropping numbers. 

While Apartheid was obviously terrible, it seems that the RSA has gone backwards in many ways. Mandela didn't leave behind a paradise.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 00:37 | 4220408 Kobe Beef
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blah blah blah racists blah blah blah racist blah

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 00:41 | 4220413 AchtungAffen
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You gotta love, though, how ZH became the home of the redneck. I'm still waiting for Honey Boo-boo Child to post here. Most of her brethren already are...

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 00:46 | 4220427 Dull Care
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So our arguments and facts are wrong because you perceive the posters on here to be 'rednecks'?

How tolerant thou art!

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 00:59 | 4220459 AchtungAffen
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No, your arguments and so called "facts" just point in the direction of redneckcy.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 04:06 | 4220665 sylviasays
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your arguments and so called "facts" just point in the direction of obamafunery

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 08:59 | 4220896 tony wilson
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he was a mossad mi6 bankers puppet  you tool

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 09:13 | 4220919 trader1
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+1

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 01:02 | 4220465 Prairie Dog
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Why come to Zerohedge on a day like today? Honestly, you know what you're going to see.

Rest in peace, Madiba.

 

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 04:03 | 4220662 trader1
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sometimes,

you have to

see it to believe it,

just to know,

that you are

less insane

than "the other guy"

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 04:22 | 4220671 sylviasays
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and may you join all of the other corrupt murderous authoritarian totalitarian dictators in neo-marxist fascist hell

 

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 09:21 | 4220927 trader1
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hell is now.

and it is you.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 01:34 | 4220534 TNTARG
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Human History is  a never ending story of horrors.

Nelson Mandela wasn't really invictus. He was used. One quick trip to Wiki shows enough.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inequality_in_post-apartheid_South_Africa

Anyway, he was a brave man. So long, Madiba.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 04:09 | 4220666 sylviasays
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useful idiot or 

had you fooled? 

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 03:43 | 4220652 trader1
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the amount of self-deluded bigtory on this thread is epic.

 

those,

that have been hyping and upvoting the mandela "communist, terrorist, SA worse after apartheid" meme,

are the same ones,

advocating violence and/or hatred towards:

jews, bankers, <insert other demographic here>, 

obama and the democratic party,

overthrow of the current us government,

and longing for:

establishment of an anarcho-capitalist, libertartian utopia where good 'ole god-fearing christian men rule over earth with their gold, bitcoins, and guns, etc. <pardon the attempt at humor on this last point>

 

oh, and you say you are only jesting?  <give me a break>

well, the nsa and other security agencies don't really give a fuck. 

you've been tagged for follow up.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 04:14 | 4220667 sylviasays
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blah blah racist blah blah bigot blah blah

you be just another brainwashed leftist slave on the bankrupt democrap entitlement plantation

go back to whoring your worthless drugged-out ass on craigslist

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 03:49 | 4220653 Element
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Now MSM will have a field day bombarding us with 2+ weeks of Mandela this, and Mandella that, until we're ready to vomit and slit wrists to make it stop.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 04:25 | 4220673 sylviasays
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just say no to msm tune them out turn them off

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 13:57 | 4221967 stiler
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on Obama praising the dead "leader": it takes one to know one. An agitating, Marxist, commie, terrorist,murdering,comunityorganizer", albeit, he was fighting a Calvinist Dutch Reformed system, as in N. Ireland, as in the deep south, as in Puritan Massachusetts. But the ends does not justify. Only the Blood of Christ justifies, which he now knows.

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