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Shanghai's Record Pollution Is Creeping Inside Buildings

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As we noted earlier, pollution in Shanghai has reached record levels causing the government to ban cars and cut production across factories. The images below are not photoshopped or edited... this is the day--to-day life in that bustling city looks like... and in case you thought moving inside was 'safe', "the fog" is creeping into the buildings too now... All we are waiting for now is the rotting corpses of over-capacity Chinese industries to come out of the dark...

 

 

And now it is moving indoors:

 

 


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Fri, 12/06/2013 - 13:57 | Link to Comment prains
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that pollution inside the buildings is called people

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:05 | Link to Comment Freddie
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No. Soylent Green **IS** people.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:18 | Link to Comment lemonobrien
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to be honest; i think we americans got the better deal; we get cheap shit, and we destroy the homeland and their people in a very cruel and sadistic manner... 

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:21 | Link to Comment zerozulu
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When you export inflation, pollution go with it too.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:31 | Link to Comment zaphod
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When this dollar game stops, the US will have to start to make its own crap again. Don't worry this will come back here too.

The improvements over the past 40 years in the US have nothing to do with the EPA and everything to do with losing the manufacturing base, when the manufacturing base comes back (which it will eventually) so will the "smog"

By then the people will be desperate for jobs, and will welcome the forward direction.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:31 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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This is fractally wrong...

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:43 | Link to Comment dontgoforit
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World War Z

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:44 | Link to Comment yrad
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China: So good you can taste it.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:47 | Link to Comment Popo
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If the destruction of value is deflationary... I'd say this is pretty fucking deflationary.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 15:18 | Link to Comment BKbroiler
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This is just one part of it.  Tons of Chinese people in rural areas make their living burning printed circuit boards to salvage the metal.  They do this over open fires in agricultural lands.  The shit they are letting seep into the soil will be there for a thousand years.  ToxiCITY

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 15:40 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Ho Ree Fuk, Uno See Clap Now...

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 15:58 | Link to Comment knukles
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Shanghai used to be such a nice place back in the days of the Opium Wars.  So full of life, alive, such a resplendent European social community!
Ah, the good olde days!

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 16:39 | Link to Comment Bananamerican
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that beauty pageant picture is testament to the human capacity to live in denial...

The levels of air pollution themselves, a testament to the complete indifference that MoneyMen™ the world over hold the value of human life.

Globalization bitches

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 20:17 | Link to Comment spine001
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98 out of 100 particles of pollution in CA are originated in China

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 20:55 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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And how many from Japan?

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 22:27 | Link to Comment Enslavethechild...
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100 OUT OF 100 RADIOACTIVE PARTICLES...

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 03:35 | Link to Comment BellyBrain
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It's a good thing the "brilliant" Chinese regime is scheduled to become the new economic power after the US is collapsed!  Their brilliance can't be hidden by anything...except for their smog.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 09:05 | Link to Comment EnglishMajor
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Like those fucking masks are doing shit.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 10:33 | Link to Comment Dr. No
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Cconfucious say, when shanghai pedestrian complain of air stink, because too many drivers have gas.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 00:27 | Link to Comment TheRedScourge
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Time to invest in companies that produce the raw materials used in catalytic converters (platinum + palladium)?

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 09:38 | Link to Comment fxrxexexdxoxmx
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This ia a job. A good job. Why are you trying to take away their jooooooooobs?

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 22:29 | Link to Comment PeaceMonger
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Energy from Thorium.  Safe, abundant, clean, cannot weaponize... wonder why it's been buried?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK367T7h6ZY

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 23:16 | Link to Comment HedgeCock
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Yeah, right.  A thorium reactor is UNSAFE and no amount of happy thorium nuke speak is going to make liquid floride unobjectionable.  

 

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 23:28 | Link to Comment HulkHogan
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Thorium may also be tied to bone cancer.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 00:49 | Link to Comment IndyPat
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As so might Fluoride.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 01:40 | Link to Comment Balanced Integer
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Liquid Flouride Thorium Reactors are the safest design going. Totally meltdown proof. The reactor basin features a salt plug in the bottom that melts away if the flouride reactant approaches dangerously high temps. The reactant drains away into a catch below the basin, the reaction stops. Presto! Meltdown avoided.

Of course, if you're worried about communist subversion, communist infiltration, and the worldwide communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all your precious bodily fluids...then yeah, stay away from flouride.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 01:04 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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Big deal.

The shit oozing out of Washington has been creeping into our homes and our lives for two centuries.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 05:17 | Link to Comment Buck Johnson
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Before we "enjoy" manufacturing coming back, we will be in a war with China over resources.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 08:32 | Link to Comment Keyser
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China has already won that battle as the US politicians are only concerned about re-election and keeping their party in power. Zero long-term planning. 

 

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 10:33 | Link to Comment mess nonster
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Deflation means less polluton for everyone. If (if?) China has built its economic miracle (nightmare) by spending its environmental capital, then at some point the Chinese economy will hit the wall of environmental collapse. Environmental degradation means economic deflation.

But the economy is more fragile than the environment. The Chinese consumer economy is built on the back of the American consumer economy. Who can say overcapacity? The equity bubble in New York City is mirrored by the productive overcapcity bubble in China. The two go hand in hand. God forbid, if the stock market bubble bursts, then I guarantee, the skies over Shanghai will get a lot clearer.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 15:30 | Link to Comment Antifaschistische
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Jobs for the coming Economic Apocalypse:

 

#5    Armor Plating Civilian Cars

#4    Gardening Instructor

#3    Garage Bullet Manufacturing

#2    Scooter Repairman

#1    dddddd....Chinese Speaking Respiratory Therapist

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 19:46 | Link to Comment johnnynaps
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How about death care specialist?!

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 20:56 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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#3 covers that....

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 22:08 | Link to Comment Yenbot
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So does #2...

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 20:57 | Link to Comment Wyatt Junker
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Hey China, time to bogart that dutch oven like you mean it.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 00:51 | Link to Comment IndyPat
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I'm applying for ThunderDome referee.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:40 | Link to Comment Crash Overide
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I like when Joe Rogan does standup and talks about people being mold on a sandwich...

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 01:28 | Link to Comment IrritableBowels
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LA sprawl as a viral infection...

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 13:57 | Link to Comment max2205
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Then the flesh eaters come out

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 13:59 | Link to Comment J S Bach
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Maybe this is why their skin is yellow.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:41 | Link to Comment _ConanTheLibert...
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Lacist!

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 17:38 | Link to Comment J S Bach
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Hey, it was just a joke, paleface.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 10:45 | Link to Comment Joenobody12
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JS Bach moron , he was also making a stupid racist joke. The word Lacist is meant to be used ironically. It is a stupid racist term aimed towrd asian people. Got it ?  

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 00:20 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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One day when you wake up in the morning
You'll never forget that day
You feel that there is something in the air
You've never seen before
Something tough, something yellow
And your lungs begin to melt

Eloy - Something Yellow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK__UX-OqEs

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:00 | Link to Comment darteaus
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Reminds me of San Bernadino in the '70's.

I saw the sun set 30 degrees above the horizon, and I could not see farther than 3 blocks.  Tough to tell if this is worse, as the photog could be using a telephoto.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:39 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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Reading up on San Bernardino: "Non-Hispanic Whites were 20.0% of the population in 2010,[16] compared to 65.6% in 1970"

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 20:25 | Link to Comment The_Dude
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Don't tell me..... the schools have improved....healtchcare services have never been better...the economy is vibrant....and crime has got to be down!!

 

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 22:47 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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well...apparently...literally actually..."the air quality has improved." don't tell me "it's because there are more white people." (for the record "i am a white guy" and all that that entails.) you could argue "the few remaining white people are really smart" of course thus creating "the idea of smog as bad and devising a solution and getting rich in the process." now here's your Tesla in Bitcoins and a rocket that can go to the moon...we're still working on the whole Solar City thingy...shut up and go away. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZhLDo09D68

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 10:57 | Link to Comment mess nonster
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San Berdoo is a perfect example of environmental gains made on the back of a destruction of productive capacity.

34% poverty rate, second in nation, behind Detroit

Major productive industries that have left San Berdoo: Aluminum smelting, railroad, manufacturing. Military/industrial complex jobs (production for destruction) that have left: Norton AFB

San Berdoo: bankrupt, with + 1 billion in debt.

San Berdoo 47% rent, not own homes. SBdoo is ranked 497th out of 644 california cities.

San Berdoo... a better snapshot of what to expect than Shanghai. 

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 23:58 | Link to Comment 2¢Wurth
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When we moved there in the 50's the smog came out to Pasadena, when we left it was in Indio.  They never did get the giant fans mounted on the mountains above Cucamonga as the multi-million dollar report on smog said they should.  Maybe China just needs big fans... 

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:00 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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Environmental arbitrage is a bitch.

Long creation of a Chinese EPA.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:02 | Link to Comment mofreedom
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I'll sell that!  How many you want?

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:03 | Link to Comment prains
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Eating People Allday

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:04 | Link to Comment Bastiat
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It was crystal clear this would be the outcome and one of the primary engines driving the great sucking sound--that and labor market/human rights arbitrage

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:19 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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Yep they got our pollution, we're getting their pay.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:19 | Link to Comment prains
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the race to this bottom results in one giant global shithole....Bladerunner Style only a whole fuck lot worse as there'll be no hot brunette robots with big red lips

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 15:11 | Link to Comment GoinFawr
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"We're not computers Sebastian, we're physical..."

 

"Quite an experience to live in fear isn't? That's what it is to be a slave." Roy Batty

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 15:12 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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Great scene!

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:26 | Link to Comment RaceToTheBottom
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Corporate Profits is all that matters

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:29 | Link to Comment prains
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....until something else matters more

 

 

l.i.f.e

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 21:02 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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But, but, but moar groath is all that matters, isn't it?

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 01:18 | Link to Comment PacOps
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EPA? Are you ready for this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceW9Nc1hVHU

New gas coming to your gas station, so pay attention. *Watch video about
E15 gas if you have a car older than 2012*

Long Monsanto & the farm subsity.


Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:03 | Link to Comment NOTaREALmerican
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Good think the Chinese commies don't have one of those commie EPA departments because commies...   wait a sec...

Why do we have the commie EPA and the commie's don't have a commie EPA.   Are we MORE commie than the commies?   If the EPA cleans the air and is good can it really be commie because we all know that commies only do bad things.  

Boy, sure is confusing knowing who the commies are and if they are good or not.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:08 | Link to Comment mofreedom
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Cause they are obedient to their masters, and personally wish for their country to prosper in the long run.

Once they get all cushy like we in USA, no wait, they won't get cushy cause that ain't who they is.

 

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 00:58 | Link to Comment IndyPat
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They won't get cushy cause they are going to fucking asphyxiate.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 19:45 | Link to Comment oooBooo
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The EPA decides who can pollute and how much.

So does the Chinese communist party.

These decisions are made on basis of what is best for those with political and economic power and their friends.

It's quite simple and consistent really. 

 

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 20:36 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

The EPA decides who can pollute and how much.

So does the Chinese communist party.

So everyone's commies?

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 22:30 | Link to Comment brettd
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EPA redefines pollution.

In the USA, the smog is gone,

but rainwater is now "pollution."

You mean all those windmills didn't fix it?

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 01:00 | Link to Comment IndyPat
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Windmills are doing wonders solving that whole eagle problem.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 10:17 | Link to Comment Offthebeach
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Pollution is a political term. Not one of science.

Crude oil bubbling up out of a south Texas marsh, natural. Dump your refined motor oil in said swamp pollution. Or not.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 19:48 | Link to Comment oooBooo
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accidental double post deleted

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 01:22 | Link to Comment mc225
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awhile back i worked in a small computer store with a couple of guys from mainland china, and one of them was talking about this once... 'very confusing to tell who is communist... usa or china'

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:04 | Link to Comment mofreedom
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But can you still smoke inside?  If yes, I'm going home baby!!!

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 16:04 | Link to Comment Citxmech
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What's ironic is it looks like smoking a cigarette over there might be a net benefit as it might filter more crap out of the air then you get from the cigarette.  

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 16:11 | Link to Comment mofreedom
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Drinking whiskey and smoking tabaki can keep alot of what could ail you away from you.

Shit, ain't been sick since college, save two 24 hour flus and no flu shots and I am a people person.

No Flu!!!

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:04 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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I believe this is what is referred to as Walfart

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:23 | Link to Comment Dr. Richard Head
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You are one fart smeller......ahhhhh.....I mean smart fella!

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 17:05 | Link to Comment Chandos
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«You are one fart smeller......ahhhhh.....I mean smart fella!»

 

Shut up! Meg...

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 21:31 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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Some wit from a fartle mind ;-)

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 01:02 | Link to Comment IndyPat
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Nothing that a mighty wind wouldn't solve...errr...wait...

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:06 | Link to Comment irie1029
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Two associates flying in Sunday from Shanghai should be interesting to hear their take on this.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 22:13 | Link to Comment Yenbot
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Hope you can understand that "throat vibrator" shit...

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:07 | Link to Comment moldygoat
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"and that's when the CHUDS came"

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:06 | Link to Comment ThisIsBob
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Not to worry, its just the residue from cheap shit.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:11 | Link to Comment smartstrike
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The Gang of Four must be turning in their graves, what have the opportunistic tycoons done to the Chinese revolution? Who let Nixon and Kissinger into China?

"To be rich is to be glorious, to be able to breath is LIFE-GIVING."

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:13 | Link to Comment _SILENCER
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Well China, nothing is free. This is what you get when you roll over to be the Golbalists Beeyatch. Sure, the lion's share of the American population is  stupid and fat and dying of diabetes, but hey, at least the Smog Monster won't have to fight Godzilla here...that'll be on your back forty.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:14 | Link to Comment Frank N. Beans
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they should be wearing gas masks, not those flimsy hospital masks

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:14 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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I wear the flimsy ones when I have to stop at Walmart

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:18 | Link to Comment Dr. No
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And gloves.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 23:00 | Link to Comment quasimodo
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I also wipe the cart with the wipes they provide at the entry. 

Nothing like wipes to say "welcome to our disease infested store"

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 01:06 | Link to Comment IndyPat
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And condoms

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:14 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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I lived there for 6 years, there was a lot of days like that or close to it. Bejing was worse. Loved it when the Chinese smoked in the elevators. Any pigs floating in the river?

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 20:39 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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As far as anyone can tell, the river pigs might be flying now.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 21:59 | Link to Comment mjcOH1
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"Any pigs floating in the river?"

Any water floating in the pig river?

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 01:07 | Link to Comment IndyPat
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Any people shitting in the middle of the subway station loading platform?

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 09:48 | Link to Comment fxrxexexdxoxmx
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People is as people does.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 11:51 | Link to Comment GlobalCtzn
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That would be India.....................................

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:15 | Link to Comment kralizec
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This is what centrally-planned plus disposable humans looks like.

A model of efficiency for all to strive for.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:18 | Link to Comment The Continental
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Face masks are pure placebo. They cannot filter out ozone, nitrigen oxides and submicron particulates. This could be abated with solar-powered intense field dielectric filters supplemented with acitvated charcoal. Anyone living in such a polluted environment who is not operating a proper air filtration system 24/7 is foolish to suicidal. Outdoor pollution actually concentrates indoors to as much as 4 fold.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:22 | Link to Comment Dr. No
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The maskes are not for the pollution.  The masks to prevent hands from touching the face to prevent swine, bird, and new-animal-viruses typical for this time of year.....

You are not the first to associate the mask for pollution purposes.

 

On second thought, mabe they are to prevent/reduce the liklyhood of the security cameras doing a facial recognition algo on them for privacy sake.

 

Could be any number of reasons I guess.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:45 | Link to Comment mofreedom
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Right, fear of spit.

In MN, a kid got fined $115 for pttin on the sidewalk.

Muslims can spit, and I mean hawk loogies, all day long on anything they want to since their religion prohibits their ingestion of diseased mucous.

No Mucous!

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 01:40 | Link to Comment IrritableBowels
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Seriously, though, who would rather eat lung butter than spit it on the ground?

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:51 | Link to Comment DosZap
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This could be abated with solar-powered intense field dielectric filters supplemented with acitvated charcoal.

 

Well, in order for this to work, the Sun must be able to get to the panels, uh not happnin!.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 17:50 | Link to Comment The Continental
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Actually, enough photons are getting through that haze that today's highly efficent solar collectors can generate enough amps to power a fan and charge a Cockroft-Walton Ladder Network to provide in excess of 8-10 kV ionization/plate potential. The power consumption is virtually zero for the ionic plates and ionizer combo, and all the power is consumed by the fan. The fan is optional as the wind does the work of passing the air through the filter array.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 22:03 | Link to Comment mjcOH1
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If they can just get a few more factories up and spewing out solar panels, it could have a noticeable effect on smog levels. :)

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:21 | Link to Comment ToNYC
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No free lunch today; free beer tomorrow. Dust to Dust as they say.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:24 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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This is why the debate over climate warming/cooling is missing the point. Had the debate been about pollution there would have been far more concensus and far more progress.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:42 | Link to Comment Herd Redirectio...
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Exactly.  The AGW debate focuses on the 'individual carbon footprint' whereas an approach to tackle pollution, toxins and chemicals released into the environment, would have focused on compliance by big corporations.

And it would have cost money.  Couldn't have that, then.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 09:55 | Link to Comment fxrxexexdxoxmx
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AGW, Climate Warming and now Climate Change never costed any money?

They are rebranding now get ready for the next assualt. Back to pollution this time since the science has been proved to be wrong.

BTW when science is found to be false was it ever science?

 

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 21:26 | Link to Comment lotsoffun
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correct mr. pan as you always are.  what the mainstream people fail to understand, one can measure changes in global climate and related statistics such as water levels, glacials sizes, but the realists know that this is always changing over millineum.   but pollutants can be measured.  and they can be traced back to sources. 

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:26 | Link to Comment Itch
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I wonder how much they will lose out in tourism from people with lung conditions...as an asthmatic i think i'll give that city that a miss. If i ran out of medication i would surely die, and dying of asthma is just not kosher.  

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:28 | Link to Comment RaceToTheBottom
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You DID build that.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:31 | Link to Comment Pee Wee
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"Shanghai's concentration of tiny, harmful PM 2.5 particles reached 602.5 micrograms per cubic meter Friday afternoon, an extremely hazardous level that was the highest since the city began recording such data last December. That compares with the World Health Organization's safety guideline of 25 micrograms"

Capitalism doesn't stop for a bunch of Asian wussies!  BUY BUY BUY!  KILL KILL KILL!  BUY BUY BUY!

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 15:11 | Link to Comment Kiwi Pete
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Nec minute pollution statitics become state secrets and all air quality moniter readers are imprisoned for 10 years hard labour.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:33 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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I wonder if they even bother to scrub the S02....

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 15:01 | Link to Comment pods
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They just make it rain and the sulfuric will scrub the buildings.

pods

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 15:20 | Link to Comment Element
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They better be, imagine the sulphidation occurring inside regional turbine aircraft engines sucking that down in huge volume each day. It literally sticks to compressor blades and eats the coatings off and that creates hot-spots and cracks in the exposed metal. And if you wash the sulphur off using a water flush, and don't do a good job of flushing the detritus out, well, you've just liquified it. Then when you start it after the wash the acid burns on to the ~800 degree C turbine stage vanes, and their heat accelerates the reaction, and destroys the engine's hot-section even faster. But it also reduces power as it degrades, which increases the fuel bill to compensate for decreasing thrust performance.

In other words, Chinese airlines would be suffering a lot of premature engine failures and engine-out diversions. They would also be facing major maintenance costs and higher fuel costs. And that is within a recently rapidly-expanded aerospace sector, with huge debt levels that need to be serviced. So if aircraft engines are simply dying after only 1500 hrs of operation, due heavy sulphur ingestion, this would tend to send Chinese regional airlines bankrupt over time. So scrubbing the SO2 is a pretty important for all sorts of reasons (besides acid rain).

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 16:19 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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While it may be important, there is no guarentee that it is done if it is deemed to interfere with profits...

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 17:17 | Link to Comment 11b40
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....especially "this quarter's" profits.  Can't have that on my watch.  

 

I'll leave that for someone else to clean up. (no pun intended)

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 01:58 | Link to Comment Element
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I think we must presume the worst behaviors are the norm for China, the observational and also anecdotal evidence is overwhelming.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 10:01 | Link to Comment fxrxexexdxoxmx
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Profits are bad. Please send me your capital or shut the fuck up. Do it don't say it you simple minded chiild.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 12:55 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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No profits are not bad, but if the price is destruction of the biosphere then that is hardly winning....

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 17:07 | Link to Comment Kayman
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Element

Fortunately this problem is easily resolved using advanced Chinese metallurgy: go to your local Chinese Wall-Mart for evidence of top quality metals supported by unsurpassed quality control standards.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 02:03 | Link to Comment Element
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I've told the story a few times, at zh, of a friend who bought a cheap Chinese motorbike, online, for his son. It lasted four hours before it made grinding noises and stopped. When they pulled it apart (there are are no parts warranties, nor after sales service of any kind, so you may as well) they found that the gear box metal had the consistency of PVC plastic. But the front brake had already failed within that four hours as well. And when he tried to dispose of it the scrap metal yard did not even want it, so bad is the metal quality in these things, so it went into a landfill after 4 hours of operation.

And this is not an isolated case, the Chinese are a joke. They sold 'Great Wall' brand utility autos into Australia at about 40% the price of Toyota utility vehicles, the problem was, they had to be recall all of them because the Chinese had used asbestos within them. And it turned out Chery autos had done the same thing, while both companies had claimed, in writing, that their vehicles did not contain asbestos!

But they clearly knew all along that they had ... so you must wonder what else the Chinese companies have been getting up to, besides this particular issue:

Mr Cotterill said the company did make an effort to ensure the cars were safe and complied with Australian standards.
 
"We did ask the manufacturers of these vehicles before we commenced to import or distribute them whether or not they complied with Australian standards and specifically whether or not they contained asbestos in any of their components and we were given a written assurance that they didn't," he said.
 
"We're very surprised and disappointed with this situation. It's a difficult situation - not one of our making, and not one that we are at all satisfied or happy with."

 
Almost 30 different gaskets have been found to contain asbestos, and almost 25,000 Chery and Great Wall cars are now being recalled.
 
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-15/chinese-cars-recalled-over-asbesto...
 
 
 
MATT PEACOCK, REPORTER: Iron ore bound for China is now being towed to port by a locomotive that came from China.
 
Last year freight carrier SCT imported 10 of those locos made by China Southern Rail. To comply with the decade-old Australian ban on asbestos imports they were certified asbestos-free.
 
But they weren't.
 
BOB NANVA, RAIL, TRAM AND BUS UNION: We had our maintenance workers repairing a number of diesel engines. They identified a lot of white dust amongst those engines and asked a question as to whether or not that dust was safe.
 
BILL MUSK, PROF., CHARLES GAIRDNER HOSP., PERTH: I think there's been a breakdown in law enforcement and that's not good enough.
 
MATT PEACOCK: The workers' concern was justified. White asbestos or chrysotile was found throughout the locomotives: insulation around the exhaust and muffler system, around coolant pipes and in the brake exhaust section near the roof of the driver's cabin.
 
BOB NANVA: They were assured on numerous occasions that there was nothing to be alarmed about. But, on subsequent testing of that dust, they've identified asbestos.
 
PETER TIGHE, CEO, ASBESTOS SAFETY & ERADICATION AGENCY: Well, it's another example, I think, of the lack of compliance in relation to certification from Asia and, more specifically, China: that asbestos free certification is really questionable out of those areas.
 
MATT PEACOCK: Last month, at a cost of more than $1 million, the locomotives were taken from service. Most were quarantined here at SCT's centre at Adelaide's Penfield, where professional asbestos removalists in protective suits and masks have been stripping the asbestos out of the trains.

 

[btw, many of the trains from China are so badly contaminated with asbestos that they've recently been wrapped in plastic and dropped into a shallow water holes, to prevent their asbestos fibers from becoming airborne and spreading.]

 

The company's subsidiary, Specialised Bulk Rail (SBR), says its first priority has been the safety of its staff, some of whom it concedes may have been at "some risk" when the asbestos-containing insulation blankets were "damaged or ripped".

 
[actually they just degraded in the heat, fell apart, and turned into dust]
  
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2013/s3899597.htm
 
 
 
Chinese car maker Chery has laid the blame for its Australian asbestos scare on a labelling mix-up — and says it will change the way it builds cars because of it.
 
In a statement published by Chinese language news website Xinhua, Chery says the recall of 2445 Tiggo soft-roaders — as the J11 is known on the Chinese market — and the A3 hatchback — sold here as the J3 — was the result of parts for cars destined for other markets being fitted to those bound for the Australian market.

 

[oh really, well that's OK then, you really just meant for your shitty carcinogenic products to give cancer to someone else, but not us, so that's all good ... that's the whole Chinese export mentality in a nutshell]

 

‘‘It is reported that the recall was issued because small amounts of asbestos, banned in Australia for environmental reasons, were found in exhaust pipe and intake manifold gaskets,’’ the statement reads.

[No, it was banned for HEALTH REASONS, it fucking kills people, you denial-addicted Chinese ultra dumb-fuck! All they ever do is avoid the fact that they are blatant crooks and scam artists]

 

‘‘Asbestos is a widely used raw material [IN CHINA], and harmful to people only when rubbed.
 

[Which is more denial and bullshit, the fibers break-down over time into small dust particles and spread in the air, mechanical friction is not required for this]

 

http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor-news/asbestos-chery-blames-logistic...
 
 
 
Asbestos parts in recalled cars won't be replaced
 
While the makers don't face any further action from the ACCC, they could face multi-million dollar fines from Customs and Border Protection.
 
A spokesman for Customs said the Customs Act prohibited importation of all forms of asbestos.
 
"All Australian states and territories also prohibit the supply, sale, use and re-use of all forms of asbestos under domestic legislation," he said.
 
A penalty of up to $110,000, or three times the value of the goods (whichever is greater), applies if a company is found to have breached the regulations. If the total value of the gaskets in each vehicle affected by the recall is just $20, the fine could be $3 million.  /... /
 
"We call on prosecutions to be served on anyone who imports asbestos into Australia."
 
The ACCC's decision not to force an immediate replacement of parts has angered the chief executive of the Motor Traders Association, James McCall, who said the affected parts should be removed and replaced immediately.
 
"I think that's disgraceful, absolutely disgraceful. The damage that asbestos in motor vehicles has done to repairers and people in our side of the industry over the years is tragic, absolutely bloody tragic. And for these companies to be exporting vehicles that contain that sort of material is really a very poor reflection on the company and a poor reflection on the government for not better supervising the standard of the importers.
 
"They should be recalled and all those things replaced," he said.
 
He said the parts should never have made it to Australia in the first place. Asbestos has been banned in the car industry since 2004.
 
http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor-news/asbestos-parts-in-recalled-car...

 

So even when the Chinese companies flagrantly lied and broke laws, and were caught on numerous counts, the company still did not immediately choose to replace the parts, after a forced recall. The thing here is, if this were a Japanese manufacturer, firstly, you could and would have a very high confidence level that they would not do this sort of low act; and second, that if they really had inadvertently placed asbestos into their cars the Japanese firm would definitely have replaced the parts, or even whole cars, and been mortified and ashamed of it, and done all they could to resolve it, and to apologize to all customers.

But that's what you get when you buy anything from China. It's why I laugh at the suggestion China is now a bigger or more important economy than Japan, because the Chinese economy is obviously built on lies, rubbish product, terrible materials control, and massive fraud and corruption, from the top, right down to the individual level. It's apparently the mainland default setting, to act like industrial crooks and rogues, and not give a damn about getting caught doing it.

They produce cheap, nasty and dangerous rubbish that's not worth the low-price money you payed for it, and it realistically may kill you or make you very sick. They apparently culturally do not believe in IP property, they just steal it, or in national design standards, or in basic materials standards, or in quality-control and safety design and build, or in parts supply, or a viable after-sales service network, or in providing a credible warranty.

As a manufacturing country they're extremely poorly developed and very far from being comparable to Germany, Japan, South Korea or Taiwan, etc. They are not even in that league - far from it. Frankly most of what China produces should be banned or at least treated as thoroughly suspect and dodgy until rigorously proven by inspections and testing to be merely adequate for access to foreign markets, and consumer's wallets.

It will be at least another 10 or maybe 20 years before China gets its act together in these areas, and given the horrendous debt and pollution levels, they more likely won't ever become truly competitive or comparable to other east Asian or European manufacturers of exported goods.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 03:03 | Link to Comment MrButtoMcFarty
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SMELLS LIKE FREEDOM!!

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 20:51 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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In other words, Chinese airlines would be suffering a lot of premature engine failures and engine-out diversions.

Well, yeah, but most of those flights are only economy class anyway.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 01:48 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Any idea how high the clouds of pollution fly?   The idiots are always pushing GW but the Asian Brown Cloud is a much bigger deal.  The indian part has to do with cow or anumal dung burned to heat homes.   The oven is outside of the house and radiates the heat in like those rocket ovens that can work so well in heating a home.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 07:25 | Link to Comment Element
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It tends to remain mostly below 5k feet AGL and there's not much above 10K feet.

The problem is amplified though, because; firstly, in the climb-out the throttles are almost completely open and the engines are sucking in a lot of air and are running at their highest temperatures. Second, regional transport aircraft tend to fly much lower, for much longer (compared to long-range flights) due to the desire to burn as little fuel as they can climbing-out for a trip that may be as short as 150 nm. In which case they will tend to fly as low as they can get a clearance for. Third, although there's much less pollutants above 15k ft, the aircraft move a lot faster, sucking in a lot more air over time, with a relatively high throttle setting.

In a busy airspace environment a substantial portion of the route will be flown below 10k feet, maybe 25% of the track miles, on an average shortish flight between cities. When aircraft are below 10k feet or lower, they are required to travel slower, usually well below 250 knots, so will tend to remain exposed for much longer at lower loitering altitudes (where the air is much denser, as are the pollutants). And in such a busy airspace it is common to remain in holding patterns, at ~5k feet waiting to land, for 30 minutes or more. They also hold at ground level with their engines idling, to get in line to wait for a take off slot.

So for most turbine aircraft traffic, an elevated SO2 level would be a serious maintenance issue requiring constant routine daily engine compressor blade and power-recovery washing, and remedial actions in the form of more regular endoscope inspections of the interior state of the hot section for signs of premature coating degradation, erosion and cracks, etc.

When the protective heat resistant coatings are degraded and gone from a surface, the area overheats, and the differential heating accross it causes, erosion pitting and thermal stress cracks to develop, and this leads to mechanical failures, not just to performance decreases, and higher fuel and maintenance costs.

(I'm a bit surprised the airlines and operators themselves are not already lobbying and insisting on higher air-quality standards, but given they're also probably doing some dodgy things they may not want to say anything annoying to officialdom ...)

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 15:33 | Link to Comment The Abstraction...
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They don't even scrub for the heavy metal oxides.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 01:16 | Link to Comment IndyPat
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Redefine heavy metal oxides as.....vital mineral nutrients! Solved.

Never let it be said that I can see the sunny side. Even through the "fog"

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:35 | Link to Comment q99x2
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They had that problem in the city that I was born, Pittsburgh. Then they shipped all the steel manufacturing overseas. Same fog/smog. Different people. It is the result of manufacturing and automation which symbolizes rise of the machine and the collective loss of soul. The fog represents that the psychology of humans has become detached from a foundation  of order. The condition precedes mass hysteria and war. The same thing happened during at the time the modernist era was ending in the 1930's . The art and literature of Barnes, Joyce, Picasso and others depicted the breakdown of social order in their works. After war knocks people senseless people get back in touch. Unless of course, there is no one left. So do your part now and go to a gallery or museum this weekend. Draw something, paint something and be kind to someone.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:39 | Link to Comment mofreedom
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Yes, that Pitt-Weirton-Steubenville-Mingo coridor smelt like hog manure to an Iowan farmer, especially on a cold rainy day and I miss it.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 23:08 | Link to Comment quasimodo
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Don't assume us Iowans love the smell of "money"

I live in the IA, and love to run, especially in the fall when the evenings/morning are cool but not bitterly cold. It's also shit spreading season, and I kid you not that smell gets in your fucking clothes like you would not think is possible. I have to wash my outer layers after every run if the smell is in the air. And that is from fields over a mile away.

 

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 00:09 | Link to Comment Rusty Shorts
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Poison

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 22:24 | Link to Comment mofreedom
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Does Monster Jam count as art?

I think it does.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 02:59 | Link to Comment MrButtoMcFarty
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LOVE Art, Theater, ETC....

But I have to caLL Bullshit.

This represents lack of catalytic converters and common sense emission regulations.....nothing moar....

 

Cheers

 

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:35 | Link to Comment 1stepcloser
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Chem Trails are low today...

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 10:39 | Link to Comment Offthebeach
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Mass fluoride gas generators. Keeps the Cheeples( chinese + sheeple ) calm.
Air pollution is the cover story

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:43 | Link to Comment Element
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Just think about this. They knew the smog was a major problem in China's cities well before the Olympics, in 2008 (five years ago), because there was major concern about it's effects on athletes from as far back as 2005. And we know the PLA planned to use artillery to fire silver iodide airburst shells into clouds upwind of Beijing, so these might induce rain, to try and wash particles out of the air, around Beijing, during the Olympics.

So this has been a huge and national problem for a very long time now. And what have the Chinese done about it?

Apparently almost nothing effective, whatsoever.

So it will keep getting worse, each time the weather conditions allow for it to build-up like this, until people start to drop dead in very large number. Because absolutely nothing else is going to snap the Govt of China out of its psychotropic level of denial about the gawd-mess the country is in today ... but other than that a central govt authority is great.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:41 | Link to Comment mofreedom
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Freedom up man, they're more free that you are?

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 20:04 | Link to Comment ghengis86
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For the Olympics, they shut down or idled a TON of industry months before the games. My company had to order extra inventory to compensate. Even if there was inventory sitting in Chinese warehouses, getting it onto a boat was problematic because there were fewer boats leaving due to the shutdown. Games over? Right back to new normal.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 17:25 | Link to Comment 11b40
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That's right.  The government really does not have the pwer to control much of the day to day activities of such a vast country.  Corruption is rampant, as is ignorance.  With a fist full of Renminbi, you can do just about anything you want, once you figure out who to bribe.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 20:52 | Link to Comment TheFourthStooge-ing
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So this has been a huge and national problem for a very long time now. And what have the Chinese done about it?

Apparently almost nothing effective, whatsoever.

What you're saying, then, is that it's like an environmental Dodd-Frank.

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:44 | Link to Comment Sufiy
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There is no surprise why Chinese companies are investing in Lithium in Europe now:


Ganfeng Lithium Co. Ltd. Advances $10 mil J/V Partnership with International Lithium Corp. on the Blackstairs Lithium Project, Ireland 

http://sufiy.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/ganfeng-lithium-co-ltd-advances.html#

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 00:58 | Link to Comment mjk0259
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$10 million? You do realize they have several trillion dollars to invest and a billion+ people?

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:43 | Link to Comment Suisse
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At least they have jobs. 

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 14:45 | Link to Comment q99x2
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The yellow fog that rubs its back upon the window-panes,

The yellow smoke that rubs its muzzle on the window-panes.

Licked its tongue into the corners of the evening,

Lingered upon the pools that stand in drains,

Let fall upon its back the soot that falls from chimneys,

Slipped by the terrace, made a sudden leap,

And seeing that it was a soft October night,

Curled once about the house, and fell asleep,

-T.S. Eliot

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 16:26 | Link to Comment ajax
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FOG

The fog comes
on little cat feet.

It sits looking
over harbor and city
on silent haunches
and then moves on.

Carl Sandburg

 

 

- some fog, some cat...

 

Fri, 12/06/2013 - 17:33 | Link to Comment 11b40
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T.S. Eliot – The Hollow Men

First 4 lines - verse one:

We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw
. Alas!

Last 4 lines - verse five:

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.

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