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70% Of Calfornia's Doctors Expected To Boycott Obamacare

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We need some recognition that we’re doing a service to the community. But we can’t do it for free. And we can’t do it at a loss. No other business would do that,” exclaims the president of the California Medical Association, as The Washington Examiner reports, independent insurance brokers estimate 70% of California's 104,000 licensed doctors are boycotting the exchange. “The Covered California board says we have plenty of doctors, and they allege they have 85 percent of doctors participating, but they’ve shown no numbers," and if a large number of doctors either balk at participating in the exchange or retire, the state’s medical system could be overwhelmed. “Enrollment doesn’t mean access, because there aren’t enough doctors to take the low rates of Medicaid,” warns one health director. “There aren’t enough primary care physicians, period.”

 

Via The Washington Examiner,

An estimated seven out of every 10 physicians in deep-blue California are rebelling against the state's Obamacare health insurance exchange and won't participate, the head of the state's largest medical association said.

 

“It doesn't surprise me that there's a high rate of nonparticipation,” said Dr. Richard Thorp, president of the California Medical Association.

 

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California offers one of the lowest government reimbursement rates in the country -- 30 percent lower than federal Medicare payments. And reimbursement rates for some procedures are even lower.

 

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“Some physicians have been put in the network and they were included basically without their permission,” Lisa Folberg said. She is a CMA’s vice president of medical and regulatory Policy.

 

“They may be listed as actually participating, but not of their own volition,”

 

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This is a dirty little secret that is not really talked about as they promote Covered California,” Waters said. He called the exchange's doctors list a “shell game” because “the vast majority” of his doctors are not participating

 

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“The Covered California board says we have plenty of doctors, and they allege they have 85 percent of doctors participating," notes Mazer. "But they’ve shown no numbers."

 

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Enrollment doesn’t mean access, because there aren’t enough doctors to take the low rates of Medicaid,” he said. “There aren’t enough primary care physicians, period.”

 

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Briscoe professed not to be surprised by the refusal of doctors to participate in Covered California. “It rings true. I’ve been kind of wondering in my head, ‘How are they offering such low premiums?’ ”

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Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:26 | 4225115 yogibear
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"Pelosi's yearly pap test is performed by the welder" 

A butcher would be more appropriate.


Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:47 | 4225164 Tom_333
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Yupp..that´s cheap anyway. More money for the insurance companies.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:51 | 4225178 Oldwood
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As you say, we don't need no stinking healthcare, cause we got fucking genius Obama. He doesn't need any doctors to tell us what we need. He's a fucking genius and just automatically knows what we need and he's in the proccess of "giving" it to us. We are blessed to have Him and his apostles ministering to our needs as only They can know the needs of Their flock....bahhhh

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:46 | 4225441 RafterManFMJ
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Smart Doctors would be setting out for more hospitable climes ... Before they get tagged and GPS-Collared to ensure they serve the people.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 16:05 | 4224915 Sudden Debt
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hahahaha

IF YOU HAVE TO ASK IT YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT!!!

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 16:46 | 4225018 Long-John-Silver
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but, but, I have a right to healthcare don't I?

 

It depends or your expectation of the healthcare you receive.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 22:26 | 4225766 Promethus
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The right to health care is in the US Constitution between the right to an abortion amendment and amendment 69, the right to same sex marriage. Remember, before he was a community organizer but after he was an Indonesian exchange student Obama was a constitutional scholar. Didn't you people learn anything in public school?

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 15:59 | 4224893 Sudden Debt
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at least Stalin got to ship protestors to Siberia if they survived the first beatings.

What does Obama have?....

it's just not a fair world....

All those doctors are clearly all racists...

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 16:12 | 4224934 TeamDepends
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Boy, that Trans-Siberian Orchestra can really kick out the Christmas jams, can't they?  What's that?  We can't say "Christmas" because it might offend some Muslims?  Well, tell Haji he can suck my bone!

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 16:20 | 4224962 Sudden Debt
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it's what pisses me off so much...

we don't put up christmass trees anymore in the cities because of the muslims....

We have Saint Nikolai every year for already hundreds of years...

now his helpers who have always been black can't be black anymore...

it pisses me off beyond belief that they try to change that...

If you ask me: do you hate muslims? he answer is yes but I won't use it against them.

Now I'm starting to get so pissed about those muslims because the constantly want to remove our symbols and we can't say a damned thing about their Mustafa mohamed buddy

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:29 | 4225123 tony wilson
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sudden debt cunt..

the muslims are not your problems you filthy jew it is you you cunt and the satanists and the catholics.

blame your masons and skull and bones men you fucking moaning weak pussy.

saint nick is satan you fucking tool.

everything is saturn controlled so fuck off you satanic masonic catholic jew.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:48 | 4225172 StychoKiller
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Why would a jew want to celebrate Christmas?  Methinks thou hast reeding comprehenshun issuez!

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:50 | 4225174 Sudden Debt
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Whoehahahahahahahahahaha
I bet you're a bitcoin nerd who's pissed his pipedream is over :)

And you fit the profile perfectly my ignorant little friend :)

WHOEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HE INSULTS!!!

Is that the best you can do? :)

I see you're insulting me in a lot of posts. Are you gay and would you like to suck my dick? You sound gay....
Nitwit :)

OFF TO FINANCE.YAHOO.COM WITH YOU!!!

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:48 | 4225328 disabledvet
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"you, you...sprout of my Brussel...you...you furry flim flam pile of ham! I flatulate in your terra farma--hardy har har. You will pay for your insomnolence infidel!"

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:30 | 4225538 Harbanger
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"we don't put up christmass trees anymore in the cities because of the muslims...."

You're wrong about that SD.  I call it like it is.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:43 | 4225688 August
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>>You're wrong about that SD.

SD may reside in a different land, perhaps one of the euroweenie nations.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 07:45 | 4226383 Harbanger
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Yikes, that's sad.  They have more problems than I thought.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 11:29 | 4226582 mick_richfield
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Well, yeah.  He's Belgian.  I mean -- look at him!

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 11:29 | 4226581 mick_richfield
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Somebody needs a hug.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 11:54 | 4226634 DosZap
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LOL, just like we knew it would, pre-planned by the gestapo,burn baby, burn baby burn, disco inferno!

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 16:19 | 4224953 G-R-U-N-T
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While many think Obama is brilliant, either for the country or against the country, from my perspective, I have observed one thing is for sure, this man is as dumb as a sack of rocks, which doesn't say much for his electorate.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 16:27 | 4224976 duo
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He had the plug pulled on Mandela just in time to distract the media for two weeks.  Genius.

Note to O:  you only get to do that once.  Just like you could kill Osama Bin Laden once.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 16:50 | 4225033 TeamDepends
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Next on the list is Sharpton.  Nobody saw that coming!

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 22:08 | 4225736 TBT or not TBT
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That would generate actual emotions of Hope in the populace. Can't have that.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:43 | 4225156 cossack55
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The pure genius is that he killed OSB 6 years before he was annointed President For Life and even more pure genius is giving OSB a kidney disease before he was even born in Kenya.  Gotta give the guy some credit.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:08 | 4225225 texas sandman
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While MaoBama may not be the sharpest tool in the drawer, I wouldn't call this whole clusterfuck a mistake....the One has everything in place to finish off his greatest coup, a single payor healthcare system.

 

Understand this; the private health insurance market is now trashed.  Gone, vaporized.  Even if CONgress repealed MaoBamaCare tomorrow, what insurance plans, exactly, are people going to buy?  Only a few companies stayed off the exchanges entirely (mine, Wellmark of South Dakota/Iowa is one), so the only state approved plans available to the public would be the overpriced/underwhelming exchange plans.

 

 It takes six months or so to create, price and get state insurance commission approval, so quick replacement isn't an option.  The risk pools have been so clusterfucked for the old plans, just "reestablishing" them is not an option either.  Plus, since all of these people have been legally expunged from the jnsured rolls, now what do you do with the cancer patient costing you $100, 000/yr in costs, now that there's no preexisting condition mandate?   Do the Feds step in and require coverage for those dropped, a "one-off"?  

 

So, here we are.  Millions of people with no coverage, no way to get it.  What's the answer?  Full takeover, single payor.  You think for a moment Republicans want to vote against something that would give those now facing an impossible situatuation at least some ray of hope?  The spectacle of uninsured people with life threatening ailments being denied medical care would dominate the news cycle every day.

 

Nope, MaoBama may be a narcissistic maroon (H/T to Bugs Bunny), but the way I'm seeing it, he may have actually accomplished what we didn't think possible, a full blown single payor system.  Welcome to The Jungle.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:51 | 4225335 disabledvet
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look! sale at Penney's!

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:32 | 4225416 drstrangelove73
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He's a dumb Marxist-I know,an oxymoron,but nevertheless

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 04:21 | 4226303 FreedomGuy
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People who actually have expertise and know how to do "stuff" can see Obama and actually most all his cabinet are empty suits. My theory is that the low information voter and starry eyed leftists who don't know squat cannot see it. It is a reliable base for the Democrat party.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:14 | 4225093 Pooper Popper
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obama your a little bitch!

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 11:31 | 4226587 mick_richfield
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you're

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:15 | 4225249 rubiconsolutions
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"Honey, think you can fit it into your schedule this evening to give me a bleeding? Since I can't get into see a physician for a year it may ward off potential malady."

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:56 | 4225451 RafterManFMJ
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Sure thing, let me go out to the garage and get my claw hammer.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:27 | 4225276 rubiconsolutions
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"An estimated seven out of every 10 physicians in deep-blue California are rebelling against the state's Obamacare health insurance exchange and won't participate, the head of the state's largest medical association said."

Well of course the next logical step is to enact laws the prohibit physicians from denying service to anyone that has Medicare, Medicaid or any other mandated coverage. That way they will have to treat all patients regardless of their ability pay or insurance coverage. I mean, if the government wants control they have to take total control or the whole thing is a non starter, right? And really, aren't physicians just selfish for wanting to make money?   (yeah, yeah.../s if you are keeping score at home)

On a side note, wouldn't it be ironic if doctors who can't afford insurance have to go on Medicaid and then can't find a doctor to treat them when they get sick because most doctors won't treat Medicaid patients?

We are so screwed in this country.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:02 | 4225360 disabledvet
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they don't want control. they want to give the order and have you carry it out. I don't understand why people never get this. "the point of the Government telling the doctor what to do is not to see that he does it but to see if he complies with the order." insofar as anything being done "that's the compliance section whic is a completely serperate division. and no...there is no oversight of that either." if you have a complaint please fill oh form 371-b and submit it "in re of action" to "whom it make concern." be sure to keep a copy for yourself...send two copies via certified mail...return receipt requested...allow for seven to ten WORKING days for request to be accepted. do not...I repeat...do NOT put your name, telephone number, address...anything that might identify you as the sender of said material as we have great concern for your privacy and quite honestly once we know who you are...so does everyone else. we look forward to getting back to you in a timely fashion and look forward to any further requests you might have with and of the compliance division. Thank you and have a joyful holiday.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:25 | 4225406 rubiconsolutions
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"they don't want control. they want to give the order and have you carry it out." You're kidding, right? Of course they want control. This is the whole idea of government - control. When you say they "want to give the order and have you carry it out" there must be some coercion behind that. Government has the tools at its disposal to force people into compliance. As George Washington said - "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action"

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 04:21 | 4226305 FreedomGuy
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They tried that in the past with Medicare. It had to be repealed because it was Unconstitutional on the face of it. It is forced servitude.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 10:20 | 4226481 Eugend66
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Maybe all of them good docs want to take care of Pelosi and Feinstein. May both rot in hell.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 15:41 | 4224847 Seasmoke
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The other 30% are going to become rich. 

 

/sarc. 

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 16:03 | 4224904 Sudden Debt
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yeah... it's always a nice sight to see when we callt he doctor for a house visit when he shows up with his porche in the driveway...
at least the doc is always fine..

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 16:31 | 4224974 G-R-U-N-T
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Mine drives up in a Rolls because he earned it and deserves it! You can take your covetousnes nature and stick it up your ass!

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 16:59 | 4225064 Sudden Debt
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didn't got laid during the weekend he?

must be because you're a complete moron... but it could also be that you look like a dog...
but dog or not... you're a moron.
Work on it. People will hate you less.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:15 | 4225090 G-R-U-N-T
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Cry me a river, putz! Sounds like you have a bone to pick with the productive, a terrible feature of parasitism.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:23 | 4225265 Jerome Lester H...
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Oh, the irony...
"...you're a moron" posted by the guy that preceded that pronouncement with
"didn't got laid during the weekend he?".

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 01:38 | 4226150 Sudden Debt
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you didn't got laid either he?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 11:33 | 4226593 mick_richfield
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I didn't either.

In fact ..   Sudden Debt, I've always wanted to tell you how cute you are....

 

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 10:31 | 4228969 rubiconsolutions
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"yeah... it's always a nice sight to see when we callt he doctor for a house visit when he shows up with his porche in the driveway..."

House call? Where do you live, Mayberry?

Sure, I'd rather have my doctor show up in an AMC Pacer.  /s

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 16:15 | 4224931 G-R-U-N-T
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“I quit when medicine was placed under State control, some years ago,” said Dr. Hendricks. “Do you know what it takes to perform a brain operation? Do you know the kind of skill it demands, and the years of passionate, merciless, excruciating devotion that go to acquire that skill? That was what I would not place at the disposal of men whose sole qualification to rule me was their capacity to spout the fraudulent generalities that got them elected to the privilege of enforcing their wishes at the point of a gun. I would not let them dictate the purpose for which my years of study had been spent, or the conditions of my work, or my choice of patients, or the amount of my reward. I observed that in all the discussions that preceded the enslavement of medicine, men discussed everything — except the desires of the doctors. Men considered only the ‘welfare’ of the patients, with no thought for those who were to provide it. That a doctor should have any right, desire or choice in the matter was regarded as irrelevant selfishness; his is not to choose, they said, only ‘to serve.’ That a man who’s willing to work under compulsion is too dangerous a brute to entrust with a job in the stockyards never occurred to those who proposed to help the sick by making life impossible for the healthy. I have often wondered at the smugness with which people assert their right to enslave me, to control my work, to force my will, to violate my conscience, to stifle my mind — yet what is it that they expect to depend on, when they lie on an operating table under my hands?”  -Ayn Rand (Dr. Hendricks/Atlas Shrugged)

 

Clear it up any?????????????????????????????

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 16:18 | 4224950 Wyatt Junker
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And not just doctors. Any profession that is not pubic sector.  All private businesses are weighed down by the violence of the state and the tribal mobs that demand more shit which is why regulations and wage and price controls are destroying the US.  

You don't have a right to earn a living anymore.  To Obama, its 'not fair'.  He will tell you how to run your business.  

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 16:24 | 4224967 G-R-U-N-T
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Indeed Mr. Junker,

They're nothing but a leagalized criminal turning the productive into a piece of their property. Most haven't a clue about the reality of what is occuring, however once they feel enough pain, this might motivate them to effect change.

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