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Highest Radiation Level Ever, Lethal In 20 Minutes, Recorded Outside Fukushima Reactor

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With all the excitement about Japan's soaring stock market (if plunging wages), crashing non-digital currency (leading to soaring energy prices), recent passage of an arbitrary secrecy bill ("Designed by Kafka & Inspired By Hitler"), and ongoing territorial spat with China, it is almost as if the Abe administration is desperately doing everything in its power, including some of the most ridiculous decisions taken by a government in recent history, to hide some key development behind the scenes. Such as this one perhaps: NHK reported today that TEPCO said radiation levels are extremely high in an area near a ventilation pipe at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. TEPCO found radiation of 25 sieverts an hour on a duct, which connects reactor buildings and the 120-meter-tall ventilation pipe.

Putting this number in context the estimated radiation level is the highest ever detected outside reactor buildings. People exposed to this level of radiation would die within 20 minutes.

The exhaust pipe in question was used to release radioactive gases following the outbreak of the accident 2 years ago.

TEPCO says radioactive substances could remain inside the pipes. Given TEPCO's safety record, they could also leak outside of the pipes. And given the company's "credibility" the world would be sure to learn about this... anywhere between 2 and 3 years after the fact.

In the meantime, we urge Japan to follow the bouncing, and so pleasantly distracting, Topix and Nikkei 225 balls, while sticking its head in the glow in the dark sand and completely ignore the radioactive monster in the closet.

From NHK:

 

... Which reminds us: on Thursday the following headline hit the Bloomberg tape:

  • FUKUSHIMA RADIATION TO REACH U.S. COAST AT SAFE LEVEL: NRC

We are sure it is nothing, and the NRC is telling the truth.

 

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Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:43 | 4225437 0b1knob
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No bad news allowed during the mandatory national grieving period for Nelson Mandela.   All flags (both real and false) will be flown at half staff.   Anybody not watching the world wide coverage of the funeral (on all channels simultaneously) will be rounded up for FEMA camp re education.

By executive order of President Light Bringer

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 22:32 | 4225786 covsire
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Seriously though, I bet Obama's skin is crawling at how much publicity the guy is getting.  If I were a betting man i'd say that Obama is going to try to make Mandela's life all about himself.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 23:07 | 4225848 0b1knob
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The great accomplishment of Mandela according to TV reports is that there was not a bloodbath in South Africa when he took power.

Its a sad commentary on out times when NOT killing people wholesale is all that it take to be considered great.

Not mentioned in the reports is the fact that the white South Africans were (and still are) heavily armed and would put up one hell of a fight.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 12:54 | 4226744 Diogenes
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As opposed to the hundreds he and his gang killed before they caught him?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 15:30 | 4227075 Kobe Beef
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As opposed to the 100,000 people killed during his four years in power?

This multikulti agitluv fest is ridiculous.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 02:24 | 4226210 Seer
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I expect that he wants to keep low so that he dodges any questions about being head of a country that was influencial in trying to silence (imprison) Mandela.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:44 | 4225438 kaiserhoff
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No problem.  Just redefine lethal.

Several of us suspected that secrecy act was all about radiation.  Like you can keep that secret on an over crowded island.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:06 | 4225480 knukles
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You can keep your sieverts even if you don't like them

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 02:25 | 4226211 Seer
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The secrecy act was in order to allow closer military collaboration between the US and Japan.  The war against China will be used to cover the Fukushima "problem."

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:45 | 4225439 Wile-E-Coyote
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This is so fucked up I don't know whether to laugh or cry. But I do feel a bit of fucking hysteria coming on.

Those fucking Jap twats are polluting the world and the media says nothing.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:57 | 4225461 Goldilocks
Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:27 | 4225533 Race Car Driver
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Where will the Japanese populations move once the islands are inhabitable?

 

Suicidal species for $500, Alex ... .

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:32 | 4225665 Not Too Important
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Who says they'll be allowed to leave? The rich are already out.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 22:03 | 4225724 NemoDeNovo
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I have a 'solution' to this, just give "That Tribe" Ja-pan and move all the Ja-panese wherever and then we can call it Jewpan, problem solved.

 

Hell someone has even beat me to it www.JewPan.com - lulz

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:10 | 4225485 knukles
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Dat'd be razzizt and sexzizt (cause of the twat factor you mentioned)
Or some such politically correct excuse worth about as mush as 100 MM tons of radioactive waste floating about somewhere no good...

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:12 | 4225493 y3maxx
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""Those fucking Jap twats are polluting the world and the media says nothing.""

...Now now, political correctness please...

They kill all those dolphins yearly, fish the hell out of the Pacific, and killed millions of Chinese and Americans.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:33 | 4225668 Not Too Important
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And you say that on Pearl Harbor Day.

No, the Chinese don't feel any PC towards Japan. Neither do the Koreans, or the Taiwanese, or Thai, or . . .

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:36 | 4225682 Yenbot
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STFU Wile. It wasn't twats. It was pocket-protector dicks.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 01:17 | 4226112 TradingTroll
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It was an American (GE) reactor running Canadian (Cameco) fuel and security by Magma (an Israeli firm from Dimona, the same place where the nuke plant is that JFK wanted to inspect a few months before the Israelis assassinated him, but I digress)

 

The Japanese haven't done anything because it isnt their product. Japan services their cars and electronics, but apparently Americans dont service their reactors.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 02:30 | 4226216 Seer
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You must have missed the once great slogan: "GE brings good things to life."

Once upon a time the Japanese were highly sustainable peoples.  And then they turned into the most unsustainable ones.  How did That happen? (hint: look at the pollution issues popping up in China and think back to this: http://www.findingdulcinea.com/docroot/dulcinea/fd_images/news/on-this-d...)

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:51 | 4225452 Anglo Hondo
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Just ignore this, guys.  Remember the real problem is global warming, where just two degrees increase can kill you.

 

25 sieverts is nothing...

 

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:10 | 4225486 kaiserhoff
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Wintry mix of snow, sleet, and freezing rain coming into the valley tonight and tomorrow.

An extra two degrees, and it's only rain.  Thank you Jesus;)

 

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:51 | 4225453 robertocarlos
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If the radiation is outside then just go inside and use duct-tape and plastic on the windows and doors. It's like the polluted air in China, just stay inside.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:14 | 4225501 LetThemEatRand
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I seem to recall that a school desk is also a safe place to shield oneself from radiation.   Not sure if it works on pollution.  I'll have to check the old propaganda reel.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:20 | 4225514 kaiserhoff
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Remember to DUCK AND COVER,  and kiss yo ass good bye.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 22:45 | 4225812 Lost Word
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No, the old school desk was only good for protection against direct blast effects.

Comet Ison fizzled out, so the slow death apocalypse returns as radiation poisoning?

One of Revelation's and Nostradamus's prophecies supposedly referred to Chernobyl.

I seem to recall a prophecy of boiling seas.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 15:35 | 4227094 Kobe Beef
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Rev 8:11 "The name of the Star is called Wormwood."

The Russian (based on a bastardized pronunciation of the Ukrainian Chornobyl) word for Wormwood is Chernobyl.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:02 | 4225606 cossack55
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So you plan on staying inside for how many years?

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:33 | 4225676 Not Too Important
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704 million years or so, give or take a couple of millenia.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 22:23 | 4225765 hidingfromhelis
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Where can I pick up the DIY kit to encase onself in glass?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 02:32 | 4226218 Seer
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I think that you can get survival kits at Costco that should cover it.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:52 | 4225454 Greenskeeper_Carl
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they will keep this whole situation under wraps as long as possible. as soon as the aquifer that runs under fukishima, which supplies tokyo, is comprimised, there goes that city of tokyo, and there goes the entire japanese economy, and the yen. one of the biggest economies in the world, and one of the most traded currencies, gone. they will keep on pretending up until the very end. the last person to evacuate will be the guy at BOJ pressing CTR-P

 

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:55 | 4225458 fonzannoon
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if we can hold this off for another 6 months they will be able to 3D print a new Japan.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:19 | 4225512 LetThemEatRand
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I find myself getting concerned that all of those Japanese sex robots are going to take over the island when the people die off.  And then I wonder how long before humans can visit.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:30 | 4225539 kaiserhoff
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The only thing I'm sure of is that Jamie and Lloyd will have a piece of the action.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:32 | 4225542 fonzannoon
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crazy days. 10 years ago I was only mildly concerned about the entire japanese population dying out and the island being overrun by sex robots. but today i realize i should have been more than mildly concerned, and now we are all going to pay for it.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:36 | 4225550 kaiserhoff
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Clearly, ten years ago, you were suffering from an alcohol deficiency. 

ZH has a way of clearing that right up.  So does this excuse for an economy.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:22 | 4225654 Greenskeeper_Carl
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well, dont be so gloomy, fonz. since all this currency creation is digital anyway, they can 3-d print a nw island, and digitally created all the new yen they want, which is obviously bullish for the nikkie, without the country actually existing. you dont need gold to buy and sell it, so why should you need an actual "japan" to have the nikkie and yen?

 

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 22:32 | 4225788 BigJim
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At this rate we'll all be clamoring for the matrix

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 22:49 | 4225818 Lost Word
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Must have been the TEPCO Fukushima employees using the wrong robots.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:18 | 4225644 Greenskeeper_Carl
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this gets no attention on the news, which isnt a surprise. Why should it? "well, people of the world, with a specail shout out to the west coast, you are basically fucked" there isnt an easy left vs right political arguement for everyone to fall in line behind on this one, so there is no reason to bring it up, i guess. everything wil be fine until it isnt. What happens to all those bonds when the city in which they reside becomes uninhabitable? what will happen to all the yen-denominated debt when the city and economy around which the currency revolves ceases to exist?

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:38 | 4225684 fonzannoon
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man what will happen when the masses on the west coast wake up and realize their seafood and dairy products are killing them.?

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 22:06 | 4225734 Greenskeeper_Carl
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the same thing that happens with they realize the politicians they have been voting for during the past few decades were lying, social security was a lie, medicade is insolvent, and our monetary systm is a ponzi scheme.... by which i mean nothing. their feet could be in lava, but their eyes are glued to dancing with the stars. come on, fonz. we are talking about boiling frogs here....

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 22:10 | 4225739 fonzannoon
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I'm with ya. But if there is any truth to these kids being born having a substantially higher percentage of thyroid problems then I imagine it's only a matter of time before they can't hold back the truth and all hell breaks loose over there.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 22:22 | 4225762 Greenskeeper_Carl
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all hell will never break loose. research flouride in the water in the US. no hell has broken loose. they will be able to keep the truth hidden for years. boiling frogs...

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 22:25 | 4225776 fonzannoon
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fair enough.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 10:22 | 4226483 Greenskeeper_Carl
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Read this again this morning, hope i didn't come off as being hostile. That was not my intention. Hopefully what you mentioned does get a lot of attention. The Japanese have a cultural thing about pretending everything is fine in order to save face, even when things are most definitely not fine, but you would think their children's health would over come that. We will see

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:35 | 4225679 Not Too Important
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"...as soon as the aquifer that runs under fukishima, which supplies tokyo, is comprimised, there goes that city of tokyo..."

The three descending cores were in it within a few days, if not hours. None of the children in Tokyo have normal white blood cell counts.

Tick, tick, tick . . .

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 22:53 | 4225825 Lost Word
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Somewhat ironic that the Nuke Core meltdown was once called the China Syndrome.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 10:24 | 4226489 Greenskeeper_Carl
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Not saying you are wrong, but has this been documented anywhere I could read about it ? From my understanding of a melted core and out of control reaction, there isn't much you can do to contain them, so it would just but through anything underneath it and continue descending,so you are probably right.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 02:39 | 4226227 Seer
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The equation was shortened.  It'll be "second time is a charm" for Japan.  After Hiroshima and Nagasaki you'd have thought that they'd have stayed as far away from nuclear as possible.  US marketing, more powerful than an atomic weapon...

And to think that at one time this island nation was extremely stable and sustainable (Edo period).

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:52 | 4225456 FieldingMellish
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Please, do not worry.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:13 | 4225497 kaiserhoff
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The only we have to fear is fear itself.

On the other hand, radiation might make your pecker fall off, but in Japan, that's a small thing.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:15 | 4225633 krispkritter
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I see(almost) what you did there...

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 00:42 | 4226036 TradingTroll
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Incorrect. Fear is overcome by knowledge. Knowledge has been withheld from governments. Fear the truth.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 10:31 | 4226495 lakecity55
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go short short peckers.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 10:52 | 4226527 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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The only we have to fear is fear itself.

and spiders

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:57 | 4225460 robertocarlos
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It's Ok . We are all doomed anyways. One day the Sun will swallow the Earth whole and we will be a spot of carbon. We need to find a new planet.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 00:40 | 4226030 TradingTroll
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While we may be 'doomed anyways', with Fukushima, rather than that date being far in the future, its right in front of us.

 

Now mankind will never realize its full potential. But I guess thats ok with some jerkoffs.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:59 | 4225463 Yellowhoard
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Next time I see a Japanese chick, I'm going to comment that she looks positively radiant!

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:15 | 4225636 krispkritter
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Glowing even!

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 22:54 | 4225828 Lost Word
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Fukushima's new mascot, Rudolf the Reindeer.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:04 | 4225478 BigInJapan
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SHHHH!

That's a state secret.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:12 | 4225496 A Lunatic
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This leak was detected by a group of young schoolboys in the traditional manner. "Hey Akihiro, go stick your tongue on that pipe........"

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:16 | 4225507 22winmag
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If I never hear about Fukushima again, it will be too soon.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 02:45 | 4226234 Seer
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So, you voted FOR the secrecy act?

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:16 | 4225508 sunnyside
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Ask Tepco what is a safe distance to be from the plant and then I think every executive and elected official and their families should be moved right to that point.  See if they go.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:15 | 4225510 Clint Liquor
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Seriously, people on the West Coast should start taking Iodine supplements to protect from radiation poisoning.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:31 | 4225536 frankTHE COIN
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Thanks for the tip. I just bought some.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:38 | 4225683 Not Too Important
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Iodine supplements are only for immediate and temporary exposure. This is very long term continuous exposure, with massive bioaccumulation and biomagnification. Here is the best info to start with:

http://enenews.com/forum-best-practices-combating-effects-radiation

Good luck.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:21 | 4225652 Tenshin Headache
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No they should not. Not iodine. At least until there is another release of radioactive iodine. Stuffs not good for you. Other things, yes - c.f. George Washington

It's ok to buy iodine pills, but don't start taking them (yet).

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 00:38 | 4226024 TradingTroll
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Dude, Iodine is so March, 2011. Iodine only protects the thyroid cfrom Iodine 1-31, a short-lived isotope.

 

The two isotopes released in greatest quantity, and the most dangerous, are strontium and cesium.

 

To protect yourself, consume lots of potassium and calcium, and avoid food thats likely to be highly contaminated.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 10:29 | 4226492 lakecity55
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People should just abandon the West Coast.

Wait!

We should advertise tons of free stuff for the FSA available on the West Coast!

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:22 | 4225519 LetThemEatRand
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Where the fuck is the Green Lantern when you need him.  He'd know what to do.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:22 | 4225522 whidbey-2
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  • Dark humor is OK, but damage to the Pacific well be hard to inventory;  it could change the food chain in time. Oh, yes humans too, along with the food chain. The junk that is washing at sea NW of Hawaii is hot and likely the first wave of a hot new world. I live on the Pacific shoreline and it is showing up there now as trash and flotsome, hot and affecting the larger sea life, not much, but growing in its affects.
Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:57 | 4225714 Yenbot
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Um, seriously. I think its good for the food chain. In the Japanese market in town, fish ain't selling. (US) Pork is. My growling "fuk, that shit is radioactive" at the fish counter probably saves uncounted endagered species. That will now transform into NEW endangered species, er...

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:24 | 4225527 TrustWho
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Liar liar pants on fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:27 | 4225532 buzzsaw99
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Hugely bullish.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:28 | 4225535 donpaulo
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"don't worry everything is under control" Shinzo Abe

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:32 | 4225541 starman
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A radioactive fiat island ! How lovely!

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:46 | 4225569 Bangin7GramRocks
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I'm a little drunk so bear with me. If a person in Japan finds out the horrifying truth about Fukishima and attempts to warn his countrymen about the danger, they will throw said Patriot in prison. Could this be true? Wow, we really are fucked six ways from Sunday!

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:20 | 4225646 Not Too Important
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He won't be told what it was he said that is secret. He'll be tried in a secret court, and sent to a secret prison. No one will know where he went, because it is secret. If his family asks, they will be told it's a secret.

The government will determine what is secret - in secret - and no one will know what is secret until they talk about the secret, then arrested.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:58 | 4225720 Yenbot
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That sounds like working at Lockheed...

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 22:59 | 4225834 Lost Word
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Sounds like the United States Government.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 00:10 | 4225968 honestann
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As of a couple days ago, trial and prison are officially obsolete and completely unnecessary.  The policy now is to summarily execute anyone suspected of leaking "state secrets", where "state secrets" is anything the state wants to deem secret, even information that was not considered secret when revealed.

You are so old fashion!

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 02:48 | 4226239 Seer
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Hey!  This is the Secret Club, and the first rule of the Secret is to not talk about the Secret Club!

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 10:26 | 4226490 lakecity55
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Klink: "Col Hochstedder, I did not know this was secret."

Hochsteder: "Bah! Klink, everything is secret! Everything! The entire Reich is secret!!"

 Sgt. Schultz: "I know nothing."

Hochstedder: "See, Klink, even your NCO is smarter than You!!"

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 08:59 | 4226421 Snoopy the Economist
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Prison? Ohhh, you mean placed on the Fukishima work crew. Ahh yes.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 10:22 | 4226485 lakecity55
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"Hello, Japan? Backdoor here. I have a lot of "volunteers" to clean up the radioactivity. My associate, Mr Ayers, will provide you with the list."

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:00 | 4225598 rp1
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The only way to fix this is to nuke the site from orbit.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:12 | 4225630 are we there yet
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Nuking Fukashema only spreads it's radiation. Nuking does not erase existing radioactivity. The goal is containment not dispersal.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:20 | 4225651 Not Too Important
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Oh, yes, dispersal is the goal - the burning of radioactive waste throughout Japan, the global spread of radiated food from Japan, the complete lack of attempt at any containment - someone somewhere wants a lot of people on multiple continents to die a slow, painful death.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 22:30 | 4225785 hidingfromhelis
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Obviously, this calls for Corexit!

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 23:02 | 4225838 Lost Word
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Worse than Gulf Oil Spill cleanup.

Was that intended as a pun? Core-Exit ?

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 23:55 | 4225924 Jlasoon
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It's ok boys and girls, the sucking of colostrum from your early days should be adequate protection against radioactive fallout. 

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 10:22 | 4226482 lakecity55
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Pour ton after ton of lead-flaked concrete via airborne means over the site until it is buried. When another quake hits, it might crack the concrete, so they should always be prepared to produce more to pour onto the site.

It would seem the most cost-effective way of blocking the above-ground spread of radioactivity.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 13:44 | 4229568 TSA gropee
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Like the Russians did at Chernobyl. A concrete sarcophagus. Which from the limited reading I've done raises a couple of issues. The first is that there is a continuous bombardment of the conrete's integrity at the atomic or subatomic levels by the isotopes, which then creates the need to regularly fill cracks that occur as it does. This adds to the second problem which is the extreme weight of the concrete dome focused on such a relatively small area. If the site happens to be on bedrock or some other high density strata, that may increase the time before the weight becomes an issue. The concrete dome solution may only delay and complicate the larger issue of actual cleanup...

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:03 | 4225613 LetThemEatRand
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It's never too late to panic.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:10 | 4225625 holdbuysell
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"FUKUSHIMA RADIATION TO REACH U.S. COAST AT SAFE LEVEL: NRC"

To paraphrase Kyle Bass:

Officials will never tell you the truth. They can't tell you the truth. They are there to promote confidence.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:40 | 4225685 Dapper Dan
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They did not tell us the truth for many years about the Starfish.

Code Name: Starfish Prime

The Americans launched their first atomic nuclear tests above the Earth's atmosphere in 1958. Atom bombs had little effect on the magnetosphere, but the hydrogen bomb of July 9, 1962, did. Code-named "Starfish Prime" by the military, it literally created an artificial extension of the Van Allen belts that could be seen across the Pacific Ocean, from Hawaii to New Zealand.

In Honolulu, the explosions were front page news. "N-Blast Tonight May Be Dazzling: Good View Likely," said the Honolulu Advertiser. Hotels held what they called "Rainbow Bomb Parties" on rooftops and verandas. When the bomb burst, people told of blackouts and strange electrical malfunctions, like garage doors opening and closing on their own. But the big show was in the sky.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/krulwich/2010/07/01/128170775/a-very-scary-light-show-exploding-h-bombs-in-space

The smartest people in the world thought it a good idea to set off over 30 H bomb in our own orbit, several had to be detonated in low orbit (50 miles) due to errant trajectory. Most of the radiation fell back to earth.....who woulda thunk!

in the link is a great video of some of the shots seen from Hawaii

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 01:10 | 4226100 TradingTroll
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"strange electrical malfunctions, like garage doors opening and closing on their own"

 

MSM never properly reported on Fukushima but Japanese will tell you the same thing happened in Japan-all over Japan-after Fukushima. Phones clicked and fax machines cranked up. Other electricdal equipment crackled, even in South Osaka, over 600km from Fukushima.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 02:54 | 4226245 Seer
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I seem to recall there being concerns over igniting the upper atmosphere.  Seems that no one was sure.  Really, "Hey, we might wipe ourselves out, but this is something we really have to check out..." WTF?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 10:51 | 4226528 Palladin
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Here's some more info on Starfish Prime.

http://talesfromthenuclearage.wordpress.com/2013/06/24/starfish-aftermath/

 

and a informational video now declassified:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZoic9vg1fw

 

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 00:15 | 4228355 TNTARG
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And they're worried about Iran, North Korea...

May be they are afraid the iranians and northkoreans could result as insane as they were and are?

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 12:00 | 4229188 TSA gropee
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We also bombed the moon.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=nasas-mission-to-bomb-t...

Fake left, go right. WTF are the real purposes?

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:16 | 4225637 pitz
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At least Japan still has a strong and growing SUKI (tm) RELIGION, The New World Religion, "motherfucking religion".  Now over 3 million members. 

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:32 | 4225670 whoopsing
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Hey guys, how 'bout splurging for a couple rolls of caution tape to cordon off the area !

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 00:48 | 4226053 ImReady
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Do you think they have a roll or two to stretch across the Pacific?

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 22:05 | 4225731 WallowaMountainMan
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just fyi:

 

There are reports by the media and blogs that this 25 sieverts/hour radiation was actually measured. It wasn't. TEPCO measured the ambient air dose rates around the two locations where TEPCO thinks the radiation sources exist, and calculated the possible radiation level right at the radiation source.

The highest ambient air dose rate measured was 95 millisieverts/hour, at 1.5 meter from where the STGS (standby gas treatment) pipe is connected to the exhaust stack:

(From TEPCO)

http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/ :)
Sun, 12/08/2013 - 02:56 | 4226250 Seer
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Sad, TEPCO's credibility has been so badly compromised that even if it told the truth it wouldn't be believed.  This right here should give wieght to the notion that this problem cannot be solved...

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 08:42 | 4226411 IridiumRebel
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Shakita Ganai

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 03:03 | 4226257 Parrotile
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That's still 2 x the annual max. dose for a certified Radiation Worker!

Seems Japan will be another place crossed off the "bucket list" (or at least placed right at the end, when we're very near popping our clogs!)

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 23:23 | 4225878 americanspirit
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I've just raised my asking price on Craigslist Tokyo for my little Texas ranch - 10 acres with pure deep aquifer springs - to $5 million in gold. Used to be $3 Million. Pretty soon its going to $10 million. Once Fukushima blows - priceless.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 00:02 | 4225947 honestann
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I hope this are your spare digs, not your home.  I mean, what will you do with your $10,000,000 in gold?  Buy an apartment in Tokyo?  Yeah, this must be your second or third property.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 02:07 | 4226186 DoChenRollingBearing
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$10,000,000 in gold or even fiat$ will buy you one hell of a business and home in Peru (S Hemisphere, less radiation will make it there).  Make sure your place is built very strong to resist big earthquakes.

Pay off the local cops and have some guns too.  Good a place as any I can think of.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 02:23 | 4226208 Dan The Man
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how about go to russia with it, and buy a business.  Sign half the profits over to Putin...and live the good life!

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 02:37 | 4226223 honestann
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That might work, but I don't trust anyone who ever was or considered being a politician.  Frankly, the only place even remotely near Russia that I considered in my research and exploration was Mongolia (which has some very fantastic characteristics).  But in the end, my distaste for cold, colder and coldest eliminated everything around there for me.  But... someone who loves the cold, and wants to do the research on Mongolia (or Russia)... go check it out.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 03:23 | 4226278 Dapper Dan
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I prefer the sins of the heat to the virtues of the cold.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 06:41 | 4226362 Manipuflation
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It's not so easy in Russia.  Putin is not the problem for small business there.  There are lot's of small crooks there.  Hell, the place resembles the rest of the world.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 02:31 | 4226214 honestann
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I have a policy of not revealing where I moved to, but you're talking about one of the five best areas on the planet based upon the 5+ years of research and exploration I did before I made my final choice and moved.

All I can say is, you give excellent advice!

Anything in dry country and remotely near lake Titicaca or a couple hundred kilometers north-east, or several hundred kilometers south through south-south-east... is fantastic hunting grounds if you're looking for a place to enjoy a secure, happy life (if you have any savings at all).

The weather is awesome all year, abundant solar energy all year, no pests, no humidity... the key is finding an obscure source of water in what is literally the driest desert on planet earth.  Surprisingly, there are hundreds of very remote, utterly unoccupied places with modest but continuous [sometimes even crystal clean pure water] springs due to the hundreds of natural water collectors known as the high Andes nearby (we're talking 16,000 to 20,000+ peaks here).

So do get your bearings and start rolling.  You're a smart cookie, Chen.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 05:11 | 4226326 IrritableBowels
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Do you have any insight on Ecuador?  Thanks!

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 00:55 | 4226373 honestann
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Not many.  But if you don't like clear blue skies and low humidity (or super-high humidity), and you want to live cheap, cheap, cheap... then rural areas and small towns in the medium and high Andes in Ecuador may be excellent.  One can live semi-cheap even near the ocean, but almost all Ecuador beaches look and feel more like sandy mud than sand... plus rather high humidity, mosquitos and not very visually attractive.  But the medium and high Andes is probably great for many folks.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 14:03 | 4226877 americanspirit
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Hi DoChen - my thoughts precisely. I have several good friends in Vilcabamba - not interested in a wealthy lifestyle, just clean air, a nice little garden, and good friends. I speak decent Spanish - a few weeks in place and I can be fluent and idiomatic. Paying off police is good - if done very carefully. Guns do have their place - big dogs too.

IMO the key to building to survive earthquakes is to not have anything heavy above you - roof, walls, etc. Build with stuff that bends and sways rather than breaking and crashing down. Not concrete, not adobe, not glass, not heavy beams. Also not on a site where hillsides can come sliding down on top of you ( gotta be a bit careful in places like Vilcabamba, but I've looked pretty carefully at the paths of past earthslides.)

I 've followed your comments here on ZH for years - love your style!

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 00:04 | 4225954 TradingTroll
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Hey delusionhead. There is no escape.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 00:02 | 4225948 TradingTroll
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The Fukushima 'recovery effort', at Reactor #4, is a sideshow, designed to draw attention from the main show at Reactors #1-3.

 

Those reactors are so hot, noone, not even a robot, can get inside

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_disaster_cleanup

 

Oh, give it 250,000 years and the radiation will subside. But its no different than bananas or plane trip right?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 00:20 | 4225989 Westcoastliberal
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You've got that right!

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 00:21 | 4225973 Westcoastliberal
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You guys are a pack of cards, but all kidding aside, you realize this is probably the very first, bonafide ELE "Extinction Level Event" we as mankind have faced.  Chernobyl was a close second along with the BP Gulf Disaster (both still ongoine BTW).

Is it me, or do we simply not have leadership with the intelligence or character to deal with such matters, even as a representative of humanity?

Is it me?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 00:35 | 4226019 Herd Redirectio...
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"Doses greater than 1 sievert received over a short time period are likely to cause radiation poisoning, possibly leading to death within weeks."

I still think Fukushima involved sabotage.  What do I know.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 08:18 | 4226399 swedish etrade baby
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I have the same feeling. 

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 10:01 | 4228913 TSA gropee
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Dupe, apologies. Slow servers.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 09:59 | 4228914 TSA gropee
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Perhaps it is even simpler than that. Could it be there are actually people (in power) that would like to devastate the very foundations of the earth's eco-systems who exist at the extreme end of the nihilism mindset. For example, after the Iraqi's knew they were done during Desert Storm, they resorted to igniting the gas wells in a policy affectionately called "scorched earth". Think this except on a global scale. JMHO.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 00:51 | 4226063 Dre4dwolf
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Its not even safe to work around there.

 

They should of burried this thing in concrete a YEAR AGO.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 04:06 | 4226293 TPTB_r_TBTF
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Cooling the cores was a mistake.

 

They should have let the cores heat up and melt their way to the Center of the World.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 06:21 | 4226352 The Abstraction...
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They should have sprinkled plutonium and cobalt unto it until it exploded.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 01:10 | 4226101 Notarocketscientist
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Ellison's Hawaiin island sanctuary from the economic collapse is not looking to good right now --- he's right in the path of this :)

Fuck you Ellison.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 01:40 | 4226158 IridiumRebel
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"I love it when a plan comes together!"
Hannibal

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 01:14 | 4226106 DIgnified
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Oh good. It had been a whole 32 minutes since something had gone from bad to worse.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 01:26 | 4226130 TradingTroll
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Peak Life Expectancy:

 

Thousands of elderly people are missing. The last UK census found far fewer people in their 90s than expected, and the same thing happened in the US with people over 100. Could this be an early sign that gains in life expectancy made in recent decades will not be repeated in future?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23126814

 

This is it, fibonacci retracement incoming, 40yr life expectancies within 2 generations.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 05:10 | 4226325 ILikeBoats
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http://www.theweek.co.uk/us/46535/when-half-million-americans-died-and-n...

 

Vioxx alone could be responsible for some of that number.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 01:40 | 4226149 Seize Mars
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Remember that scene in Braveheart when Longshanks says, "...You see, as king, you must find the good in any situation."

I'm sure when Fukushima happened TPTB were whizzing themselves with joy. What a great way to herd 30 million people into the west of Japan. Total evacuation of Kanto. They want us all herded into giant megacities.

This is why nothing continues to be done. Because they want this thing to be as dirty and as damaging as possible. They won't be happy until there is a total evacuation of Tokyo and environs.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 01:44 | 4226163 TradingTroll
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Oh BS. Under Japanese law they were required to evacuate Tokyo and didnt. Study Professor Koide's comments

http://enenews.com/japanese-nuclear-expert-when-try-figure-true-magnitud...

 

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 03:12 | 4226265 Anonymouse
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That's ok. Didn't the Japanese perfect the a Genesis device? Remember,
the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 04:02 | 4226290 icanhasbailout
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.

 

 

TOP PLAYERS!

INITIALS   SCORE

TEP_         25,000

TEP          15,000

USR          9,001

GPU          7,404

 

 

 

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 04:17 | 4226292 Oldrepublic
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Global Research report

The Fukushima Coverup: “Biggest Industrial Catastrophe in the History of Mankind”

http://tinyurl.com/o53mmsc

 

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 07:03 | 4226369 Satan
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" Please, do not worry. "

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 07:25 | 4226375 rationaldemocracy
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Sorry but I don't believe any of it.

People are so irrational when it comes to things they don't understand...like radiation

Whoever is buying real estate near fukushima is probably gonna make a killing

 

 

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 08:36 | 4226409 IridiumRebel
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Nice to see you join us from around October 2013. I will upvote you for this awesomely misunderstood assessment. I'd say call Keller Williams of the irradiated prefecture and start buying away!

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 14:52 | 4226998 TradingTroll
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Post a picture of yourself inside any of reactors 1,2,3. That real estate is hot I hear.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 07:44 | 4226382 Sid James
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Three cases of Cillit Bang will soon sort that.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 07:57 | 4226390 chaartist
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I am only waiting when US starts a campaign that they have developed 100% proven vaccintion against radiation for westcoast. 

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