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Republicans Soar Above Democrats In National House Races

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Judging by HuffPo's latest polls, the current administration is going to need a bigger boat (of vote-garnering transfer payments) to stand a chance in 2014... or, of course, we see another epic fail in January when the debt-ceiling debacle rears its (mostly ignored by the stock market) head and once again the Republicans are painted into an awkwardly responsible corner. One thing is clear, the voters are becoming less 'entrenched' in their faith in hope-and-change (or more distracted from their dismal reality).

 

Chart: Huffington Post

 

However, since the Fed is truly in charge and since Washington merely does the bidding of Wall Street and corporate lobbyists, all this chart shows is that the public's attention has once again been successfully diverted from the most important matters at hand, and a new, periodic scapegoat has been found.

And always remember, as we previously discussed in detail, their is only on game in town... lobbying...

The Greatest ROI Opportunity... Ever

 

 

 


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Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:35 | Link to Comment EscapeKey
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oh right, im sure voting for the right hand of the wall street party will really solve all problems.

insert obligatory "throw the rascals out" carroll quigley quote here

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:38 | Link to Comment knukles
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Just thnkin' about it gives me a handcuffs...

http://www.thealmagest.com/method-recording-brain-activity-lead-mind-rea...

Careful what you think for else your ass is gitmoooed

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:50 | Link to Comment fonestar
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You guys can keep voting Demopublican to your heart's content.  I will be outside the voting stations passing flowers and asking people to give a chance to a new candidate.  Asking them to accept Satoshi into their lives, their wallets and their hearts.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:51 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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stop downvoting this guy. Fonestar clearly belongs here.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:54 | Link to Comment knukles
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There are many reasons for tin foil hats.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:37 | Link to Comment Dewey Cheatum Howe
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There is also a tipping point where paranoia will paralyze and destroy you. The difference is close minded paranoid for paranoid sake as opposed to trust but verify.

But as Jimmy Kimmel so put it the other day in his monologue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q1CUu-B0U0g

“The NSA collects almost 5 billion records a day that can pinpoint a cell phone anywhere in the world, track its movements and map the personal relationships of the person using it. This is interesting because I’ll tell you what this means. You know those crazy people who wear tinfoil hats because they think the government is tracking them? It turns out they were right.”

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:44 | Link to Comment fonestar
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I have nothing against conspiracies per se, but unlike most of the residents on this blog I think they're a lot more likely when they at least sound plausible and you have some facts to back the allegations you're making.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:33 | Link to Comment knukles
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By definition, once a Conspiracy Theory is backed by facts and hard evidence, it is no longer a Theory.
In today's parlance it has become a "Conspiracy" "Fact".  Double entnedres and more.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:03 | Link to Comment economics9698
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Ron Paul 2016.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 23:17 | Link to Comment dtwn
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While I support RP and all, pragmatically speaking he's just getting to be too old to win a presidency in my opinion.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 09:42 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Not sure what Jay Carney is getting paid.....but it's not enough.

 

I stand in awe everytime he opens his mouth.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 09:58 | Link to Comment overmedicatedun...
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ZH, was long ago a site that posters would contribute $$ , to keep it going, no longer, but there is a price for taking MSM money, some posters must go, some words are banned, some groups are protected, and thus it ends.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:52 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Why do idiots keep watching TV and Hollywood's shit?  Who gives a shit what Jimmy Kimmel thinks?  He is one of them.

F TV and F Hollywood.  You watch their shit then you support all of it.  Starve the Beast at EVERY turn.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:28 | Link to Comment Dewey Cheatum Howe
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You can watch to keep an eye on what they are saying and doing so you know what is coming next. Someone has to pay attention.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 00:17 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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To what end? They are government, they have all the guns, and the monopoly priviledge on force including, but not limited to, legislating.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 13:53 | Link to Comment tenpanhandle
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They don't have mine...uh, be right back; someones knocking at the door.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 11:57 | Link to Comment Keyser
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I find it quite amusing to watch or read the spin in the MSM. Blatant liars placating the sheep so they will go further into debt and consume, while tossing Obama's salad. Journalism is dead in America, replaced with propaganda supporting SIGs. If not for the internet, we would all continue to be led around by our collective noses.   

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 12:10 | Link to Comment Cloud9.5
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One is about control the other is supposed to be about service.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:13 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Obama and the Dems can rig any elections like 2008 and 2012.  Search "1981 Consent decree RNC DNC" it was affirmed by SCROTUS in late 2012.

The Dems or elites run RINOs like McCain and others so their is never dissent.  The Senate is the lynchpin for this entire scam. 

IF the GOP pushes any form of amnesty then the Repub party is over.   

Probably the whole idea of elections is a joke anyway.

The elites and eruopean tribal bankster families & US agents have been in control since at least the Civil War.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:29 | Link to Comment dick cheneys ghost
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fred, what do you mean by Tribal?

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:52 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Those middle eastern tribal people who bring so much joy to the world.   The ones who spread towards the west over many years causing misery.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:19 | Link to Comment TeamDepends
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The Kardashians?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 12:01 | Link to Comment Keyser
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Or perhaps the Kardasteins... 

 

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:00 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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I don't even read his posts anymore... I just click red when I see his pic...

can't help it...

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 12:04 | Link to Comment Keyser
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It's one thing to have a point of view and support it in discussion, but when it approaches the point of obsession in every thread, it may be time for a 12-step program.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:12 | Link to Comment Rusty Diggins
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I don't often log on, but when I do it's to downvote phonestar.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 23:38 | Link to Comment Fiat Envy
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I always up vote him, oh and I used to upvote MillionDollarBonus but he seems to have moved on to greener pastures.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 23:04 | Link to Comment NIHILIST CIPHER
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Disabled             He belongs here like the free shit army belongs in the USSA. To worry the crap out of all the other citizens, like a gnat flying in your ear constantly.    

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:06 | Link to Comment DaddyO
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phoneystar, so I thought you were in Canuckistan? Gonna cross the border for our elections, for what?

I thought you could only give a rip for BTC and Satoshi and everything else didn't matter.

Not only are you an immature troll, you lie as well...

DaddyO

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:27 | Link to Comment fonestar
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Dual bitizenship.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 23:21 | Link to Comment phaedrus1952
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Mars and ... Uranus?

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:35 | Link to Comment One World Mafia
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You never stop demagoging for the nwo.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:06 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Satoshi Tajiri?  The creator of Pokemon?

Pikachu for President!

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 22:12 | Link to Comment SWRichmond
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Pikachu is awesome. What's not to like?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 01:05 | Link to Comment Overfed
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I'm sure that Pokemon was created by chi-mos. I mean, really; ass-catcher, peek-at-you, squirtle. It can't be a coincidence.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 23:10 | Link to Comment El Oregonian
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Dig a big pit... Fill it in with BOTH democrat and republican congresspeople... Back fill the hole and call it good... This time have elections with all new candidates... Including the executive branch and start a-fresh... It will be our gift to the world!

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 14:04 | Link to Comment mick_richfield
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If you don't stop the people who can create money from nothing, your next batch of representatives will be owned within a few years no matter whom you elect.

Our rulers are not the people we elect.  They are the people who have perverted our money.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 23:31 | Link to Comment El Oregonian
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Double ditto...

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:17 | Link to Comment floyd084
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Best bet would be gridlock. Neither party can do anything right so best to be in a situation where neither can do anything at all.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:34 | Link to Comment Flakmeister
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Don't worry...

The spectre of trans vaginal ultrasounds will reappear...

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:42 | Link to Comment knukles
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Amazing, no?
It has nothing to do with capable peoples using their best efforts for their fellow men, no?  Or debating in a civil manner the foundations upon which society itself are based.

It's all who just fucked up the most gets supplanted by the other guy who fucked up the most and then the guys who before that fucked up the most get replaced by the guys who fucked up the most last time to fuck it up the most all over again.

Except when Nelson Mandella dies then everybody runs amok shouting what great fucking people they (not Mr Mandella) are.

Or something like that....

Ain't it interesting, Barry, that the sales of guns and Bibles never been bigger?

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:17 | Link to Comment Rusty Diggins
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That is I believe the correct definition of "Race to the bottom".  Every proceeding guy gets a bigger chunk of lead to hang on to on the way down.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:36 | Link to Comment meghaljani
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Fuck yea! That's what I was talking about. 

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:37 | Link to Comment Seize Mars
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The 2012 Presidential "election" was their last chance to have this end all "nice & polite."

 

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:46 | Link to Comment knukles
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Yep.

Like "Somebody oughta crap in S Palin's mouth" comments on national televised news (MSNBC)
Real fucking nice....

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:04 | Link to Comment DaddyO
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knucks, just wait till we get within 3-6 mos of the next national election!

You ain't seen nuthin yet!!!!!!!!!!!

DaddyO

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:29 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Right DaddyO and knukles.  2014 and (especially) 2016 are going to make even the nastiest of us blush...

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:34 | Link to Comment DaddyO
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I watch very little TV but I'm inclined to take H_H's advice and pitch the darn thing in the trash pile behind the house and let it burn.

In the 2012 cycle, I struggled between suicide and homicide trying to watch the local news.

2016 may be the turning point in my struggle...

DaddyO

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:41 | Link to Comment Freddie
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I watch NO TV and NO Hollywood.  I stopped being a f*cking retard about 10 years ago. 

Your viewership supports them.  Starve the beast at EVERY turn or be a douchebag.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:23 | Link to Comment knukles
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The only reason (besides some stuff like boxing, some movies and so on) I tune is that every once in a while ya gotta know what the enemy is pushing as it's meme of the day.
Not second hand, no playing "telephone" but straight poop, so to speak.
Else, getting their garbage through others lenses becomes multiple times distorting.
Just my opinion.

And no, I don't do it much and when I do it doesn't last very long.
It's too damned hard to take.
Like crawling with cooties!

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 11:41 | Link to Comment DosZap
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Like "Somebody oughta crap in S Palin's mouth" comments on national televised news (MSNBC)
Real fucking nice....

 

Real class,NOT by a huge Buffoon, who I would love to beat down.What a disgusting pig.Had a HUGE laugh yesterday, CNN say's they are going to STOP reporting the NEWS, LMAOROTF,since WHEN did they EVER report the news?.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:50 | Link to Comment 22winmag
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2012... A stolen election if there ever was one... not that I have any respect for Republicrat RINO Romney and his brand of fake conservatism.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:39 | Link to Comment Dewey Cheatum Howe
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I guess one could look at it as payback for Bush vs Gore election.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:34 | Link to Comment brown_hornet
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Which was payback for the 1960 Kennedy over Nixon stolen by R J Daley election.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 11:45 | Link to Comment Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Naw that is too far ahead they got payback with Carter in 1980. You know the release of the remaining 52 hostages was negotiated and agreed upon prior to the 80 election but was done in secret and purposely held back to hurt Carter politically since he was running for re-election.

Why do you think they moved them from the embassy to prisons in Tehran right at the height of the campaign season for re-election in June 1980 and then all of a sudden had a change of heart and moved the hostages to the Teymour Bakhtiari mansion in Nov 80 almost immediately after Carter lost to Reagan.

 

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 14:07 | Link to Comment mick_richfield
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If we keep giving each other paybacks like this, we'll all go broke.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:16 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Agreed.  Obama and the elites stole 2012 and 2008.   2010 was a little different but they all get compromised especially the evil Senate.

The main RINO corporate GOP works hand and glove with the Dems.   The local people try to elect someone to represent them but any threats are neutralized. 

The time for voting has ended.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:31 | Link to Comment dick cheneys ghost
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not to mention how the dems stole the 2000 election and gave us 2 unnecessary wars, the patriot act and medicare partD

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:37 | Link to Comment DaddyO
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still being played, I see...

Did Obummer, a Dem, unwind any of those?

DaddyO

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:48 | Link to Comment dick cheneys ghost
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poor attempt at humor on my part......but Im sick of the politics. ZH is turning into a slutier version of Huffpo........i used to come here to read about credit, debt-money and monetary policy. used to be some good comments here, but the truthers all got banned

mako

otto

francis

bank guy from brussels

trav777

lennon hendrix

and others......

those guys had something to teach, freddie has nothing to teach, just more redteam/blueteam........makes me sick

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:43 | Link to Comment DaddyO
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Your point is well taken, I made a similar comment a couple of weeks ago and got junked to hell!

DaddyO

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:59 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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ZH has become mainstream!  AAAAAAHH!  Our worse fears realized!

If we're going to start banning people for their views (Bank Guy got banned?????) can I make a nomination?  Fonestar.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 21:41 | Link to Comment meltdown
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BANK GUY FROM BRUSSELS is toast?

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 22:11 | Link to Comment dick cheneys ghost
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bank guy made an epic, Epic EPIC comment about 2 months ago.........the comment is gone and so is bank guy.........He got to close to the truth is all I can figure

 

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 22:26 | Link to Comment Harbanger
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Repeat the truth then.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 04:37 | Link to Comment Freddie
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I did not know that Bank Guy, Francis and others have been silenced by ZH.  Not good.  I like ZH because I thought it was mostly not censored.  If it is censored then I may move on. 

I may not agree with someone's post but as long as they are not a total govt shill bot then let them post.  This is BS.  I may split soon.  The Bank Guy in Brussel was awesome.  This sucks.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 22:26 | Link to Comment Harbanger
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"those guys had something to teach, freddie has nothing to teach, just more redteam/blueteam"

If they're true teachers, they're self driven and may still be here under different names.  Don't think that Repub/Dem = Left/Right.  There's no difference for now, Both "teams" have the same agenda.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:43 | Link to Comment MrButtoMcFarty
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GOP=DEM=INC

K Street MUST DIE.

Or nothing changes....Ever.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:11 | Link to Comment New_Meat
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@hewhosmeltitdeltit;

Yep, K-Street gotta go, but your terms are wrong.

Check out decotevilla on the country class v. the ruling class.

- Ned

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:44 | Link to Comment stant
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throw them all out , even the handfull of good ones.send a real message

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:51 | Link to Comment Pumpkin
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Long ago, I stopped having any preference whatsoever of who is doing the ass raping.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 17:55 | Link to Comment knukles
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Pumpkin, I still got a pretty strong preference concerning who's getting the ass raping, though....

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:06 | Link to Comment New_Meat
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Next up! "Student Debt Forgiveness!!!"  After all, that was what the OWS drive-by-media-shiney-thingie was all about.

Don't cha' know.

- Ned

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:10 | Link to Comment q99x2
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They don't put politicians into office that way. The way they do it now is Carl Rove's way which includes NSA blackmailing, manipulating the ballots and bribing the opposition. That democracy thing is outdated according to the globalists. They also have a CIA agent assigned to each politician in case they get out of line. That way pretty much whoever gets elected yields the same results which is basically rule by the globalist's NWO.

You have to wait for the next war to see any meaningful change. That's when, starting with the central bankers, everyone, the world over, goes straight for the throats of the globalists.

Long live the revolution.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:23 | Link to Comment TeamDepends
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Ah yes, ol' Turdblossom!  It won't be long before he's out stumpin' for the new, improved Bush-  JEB!!!!

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:35 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Yup. Christie is a smokescreen for the emergence of Jeb.   They will ramp up the fear for Hillary.

If they pull this shit - why even vote.  If the GOP pushes Obama's amnesty in any form then I am done voting. 

We are supposed to be scared of Hillary to force us to vote for Jeb?  How worse will this evil Alinsky c*nt Hillary be versus Obama.  Jeb will be no different.  The Bushes are friends with the Clintons and Obama.

I think they will run Cory Brooker or some Zapata latino who is a stooge for the elites/drug cartels like Obama.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 00:42 | Link to Comment lewy14
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Possibly, yes.

I think the best bet is to agitate for Elizabeth Warren for president.

The best place to attack Clinton from is from the left.

The best place to attack Christie from is from the right.

And to those who are tired of the whole "Team Red, Team Blue" thing... ok you kewl kids in the back, yeah, talking to you...

...you're lacking imagination as to how to play.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 01:00 | Link to Comment StychoKiller
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So, Georgie TyreBiter in 2016?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 04:42 | Link to Comment Freddie
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I think Hillary is weak.  The elites will be pushing her, Jeb (over Christie), Rubio, other RINOs.  Hillary might start looking weak so they go with some male Latino like the mayor of LA or Cory Broker/Deval Patrick.

Fear of Hillary?  How could she any worse that Obama?   Oh - I have to vote for NWO Jeb over "scary" NWO Hillary?   What a joke.   We do not get to choose anything.

 

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:16 | Link to Comment Occident Mortal
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What is Boehner going to demand in Febuary in exchange for extending the debt ceiling?

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:29 | Link to Comment IridiumRebel
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Years worth of spray tannng should do.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:31 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Beat me to it, LOL...

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:37 | Link to Comment IridiumRebel
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Great minds thnk alike, DCRB.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:41 | Link to Comment dracos_ghost
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Lanolin infused tissues.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:18 | Link to Comment vintageyz
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I smell vinegar and water either way.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:26 | Link to Comment 22winmag
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Great... now the money soaked, spy riddled, thoroughly co-opted Tea Party can gain even more power and influence.

 

Perhaps Tea Party golden boy Marco Rubio, who has gone on record saying Snowden is a traitor, will be put in the position to drone whistleblowers.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:37 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Maybe you are not paying attention but conservatives hate amnesty Rubio.  He is RINO scum.

Oh and you forgot the lefties Pavlovian responses to any post.  Koch Brothers.   Yeah they are scum who support the elites which includes all Democrats and RINOs.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:24 | Link to Comment 22winmag
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Two things that I'm far from being convinced are legit:

 

The Tea Party, which is a misnomer, because it isn't a political party at all. The "members" are money soaked and a majority of them voted in 2009 to extended Obama's Afghan war funding.

 

The Oath Keepers... full of law enforcement officers who swear not to confiscate guns, but have no problem trashing the bill of rights, kicking down doors over pot plants, DUI checkpoints, etc. etc.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 00:47 | Link to Comment lewy14
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because it isn't a political party at all

You say that like it's a bad thing. WAT???!!

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 04:44 | Link to Comment Freddie
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The "Tea Party" were taxpayers fed up with the elites and Obama.   It was never supposed to be any organized group - just Americans sick of being told what to do, think, while forking over more tax money and freedom.

The fact that the vile media, TV, Hollywood, Democrats and RINOs hate the Tea Party is a good thing.  They fear and hate them because the Tea Party might try to elect people who want to restore The Constitution and limited govt.  Yeah it is a fantasy.  We need a hard reboot now.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 01:35 | Link to Comment starfcker
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22Win, I didn't junk your posts, but i completely disagree with you. don't think conservatives in the house matter? the sequester is still the law of the land, cutting a trillion dollars from the war machine and the great society. the food stamp bill containing 800 billion dollars in obama level walmart welfare is kaput at the moment. we aren't at war with syria, doesn't that count for anything? and the holy grail of k street politics, the open borders/amnesty bill is still just a dream. and some guys shut down the government trying to defund obamacare. don't they get any credit? the good thing about the house is, everybody faces the voters every two years. that's the answer. pick the best guy, if he's a fraud, send him packing. it's starting to work.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 04:47 | Link to Comment Freddie
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I will add one thing. The Senate needs 2 year terms.  Most of the evil is done in the Senate.  These evil bastards stay for a lifetime and then their seat goes to their kid.  The Senate is the worst.

The House still has at least some connection to American taxpayer/voters.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 10:18 | Link to Comment starfcker
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freddie, i hate to disagree with you, too, but it's a pretty great system the way it is set up. the house gives us a fairly quick way to pressure our reps with 2 year terms. the senate does just the opposite. only a third stand for election every 2 years with the idea that they can slow down the lynch mob. sure, it pisses you off when you can't fire a huckster like rubio right away. doesn't matter. don't think rubio didn't provide a clear lesson to the smarter people around him on how to kill a career before it got started. remember he is just filling the same seat as jeb bush's last greaseball amnesty shill, mel martinez. jeb is the tom freidman of the republican party, only tom married up, and jeb married the help.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 15:34 | Link to Comment Freddie
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+1 Good points.  Rubio is hated by conservatives now.  Total scum like McCain, Flake, Graham et al.   Still trying to figure out how slimeball Mel Martinez just disappeared one day.  Those Senate seats are like gold.  No one just gives em up like Mel did.  LOL!  About Jeb.  He is a total; douchebag like the rest of Bush klan of intel agents.

The last 4 "presidents" all worked for The Company.   I totally agree about the Founders plan for total gridlock or checks and balances.  I guess they never figured the intel elites could blackmail everyone especially the corrupt courts.  I better stop because ZH apparently bans people, which may make me look elsewhere.

 

 

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:14 | Link to Comment starfcker
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the banning people isn't all that. From what i understand, ZH's servers are in switzerland. switzerland evidently has some pretty serious laws concerning racial taunts and slurs. tylers put up plenty of notice and explanation, and sent out plenty of warnings. you can still say whatever you want here, but you have to watch your vocabulary a little. there were some great posters that disapeared, but it didn't have to happen

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:24 | Link to Comment IridiumRebel
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Hook em up Dems! EBT those votes!
FSA! FSA! FSA! Ahora en Espanol!

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:44 | Link to Comment discopimp
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Wow the choices, how'd the third party fare...oh yeah...

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 18:57 | Link to Comment Greenskeeper_Carl
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nothing really changes in a meaningful manner since they are all sockpuppets, but i like seeing this from a gun control perspective. I know there are very few differences between them all as far as the welfare/warfare state, but it is scary to imagine a billary presidency, with a democrat senate and house with regards to gun ownership. since the constitution is null and void these days, all it would take is one convienent mass shooting, and off we go to mandatory registration, confiscation, etc

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 19:19 | Link to Comment masaccio
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Proof positive that USians are fools manipulated by charlatans.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:13 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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See-saw, see-saw.

If the Republicans get elected nothing will change, just a lot of sound and fury signifying nothing.

Just like when Democrats have a majority, nothing changes, just a lot of headlines and talk.

If you want change:  end the FED, then TBTF banks, restore Glass-Steagall, enforce laws.

Simple huh?  That's why none of it will happen under either party.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 20:48 | Link to Comment DaddyO
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Agreed, Vichy DC is corrupt and broken, any thought of voting to fix it is pure folly.

I have turned my attention to the grassroots efforts in my state and we are making progress.

 I have appt's in my state capital soon and am making a dent.

All politics is local, I guess...

DaddyO

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 22:28 | Link to Comment Smiley
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Don't care; both sides are crooked as hell and do not deserve any of my money or support.  I hope large dogs bite them all in the crotch.

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 22:41 | Link to Comment NihilistZero
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That this is presented as relevant news is an embarrassment to zero hedge.  If you still play into the false left right paradigm after the events of the last 12 years you really shouldn't even be here.  I'm all for shitting on Obama but the GOP as a whole is beyond worthless.

 

EDIT: Missed the last paragraph.  Sorry Tyler.

 

 

 

 

Sat, 12/07/2013 - 23:52 | Link to Comment Bluebear
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This post is not about the red/blue team... Tyler is making an important point that for the DEMs to win in 2014, they will need to print even more money and give it away to their voting base... How does $3,000 for each person in the US sound?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 00:27 | Link to Comment honestann
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Nah, even democrats are becoming "efficient".  They will find a way to give $6,000 to each... but only to loyal democrats and anyone subject to bribery.  Or if they feel totally boxed in (or poor), they'll only target the "on the fence" crowd.  But that's not likely... yet.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 00:34 | Link to Comment Manipuflation
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Ann is correct.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 09:26 | Link to Comment andrewp111
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The Democrats have certainly got very efficient in targeting voters in their turnout drives. Look at what they did in 2012 in Virginia. They knew exactly who to target, and made repeated personal visits to each person, and then offered rides to and from the polls on election day. They will most certainly do this again in swing districts and hotly contested States for the Senate races. But can they direct government benefits in such a targeted manner? I have my doubts. They can't violate the law enough if someone has standing to challenge them in court. And their bureaucracy is anything but efficient. It would be easier to get some really big boyz to pony up billions, and then pay targeted voters cash after they have voted.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 00:25 | Link to Comment honestann
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Maybe dawn will finally come... when republicans win big-time due to the horror of Obamacare, then refuse to cancel Obamacare (but make it even worse, while claiming to "fix" it).  Then everyone with even 10 functional brain cells will realize red and blue are the same color, at least in politics.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 09:43 | Link to Comment andrewp111
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They can't cancel ObamaCare as long as Obama is in office. Obama made that clear, and a veto override requires more Senate votes than is mathematically possible after the 2014 election - even if the GOP wins all contested seats (which ain't gonna happen either). All that changes if the GOP wins the Senate, is that instead of Congressional gridlock you have veto fights, and perhaps a few unsuccessful impeachments of lower officials. In terms of what is actually enacted into law, not much changes. Same budget battles, same result.

By the 2016 election all bets are off, and if there is a financial crash, people won't be talking about ObamaCare anymore.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 11:19 | Link to Comment Duude
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You're right they aren't going to have the 2/3 voting power to override, but taking the Senate majority may well be enough. What it does is it takes away the extra power of the POTUS that comes with the Senate majority. The Senate has vast powers to investigate which are currently stifled. Together with the house they have the power to change the direction of the nation even without the 2/3 majority regarding what bills are passed. This all adds significant pressure on the executive branch to compromise if it has any desire to be known for anything more than Obamacare circling the drain. Bill Clinton had a similar problem when the house and senate were in Republican hands. He had to compromise or he was going to be a lame duck. 

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 08:43 | Link to Comment Edge.case
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All this shows is the ignorance of the people. A spike UP for a govt shutDOWN?! With all the crap obuma pulled, a shutdown that wasn't, for a govt that is broke. And a spike down over a web site when the underlying health care system has been broken for decades? Also, it looks like the republicans were asleep until they had some good dem-bashing material.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 10:55 | Link to Comment roadhazard
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Hitlery will be the next POTUS, you can take that to the bank. No way minorities are going to vote Repubican and wingers scare the hell out of women voters.  

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 13:02 | Link to Comment moneybots
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"Hitlery will be the next POTUS, you can take that to the bank. No way minorities are going to vote Repubican and wingers scare the hell out of women voters."

 

Never count hatches before they chicken.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:13 | Link to Comment Kelley
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Democrats could run the dumbest, drunkest candidate* they have and still win because they have figured out how to rig elections while the Republicans act like it never happened.

 

You don't think Obama really won, do you?

 

*Hillary, Biden, Pelosi: all both dumb and drunk. 

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 13:01 | Link to Comment moneybots
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Blue gamer rises, red gamer falls.  Red gamer rises, blue gamer falls.

The American people lose either way.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 13:41 | Link to Comment Heroic Couplet
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If Republicans are winning, and anyone in your family is unemployed, make certain you're using the Republican politician's office to conduct your job search.

If you're close to 65, remember, your Social Security benefits are going to be calculated on your last ten years of employment, all the more reason to be in a Republican's face with your job search.

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