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The 9 Words Every Democratic Congressman Dreads

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Following yesterday's polls, we suspect this cartoon sums up the view of many 'faithful' as they head into the new year. Of course, no matter what faces change next year, the Fed will always be there...


"...if you like your seat, you can keep your seat..."


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Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:07 | Link to Comment NemoDeNovo
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Because........ #Obama





Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:09 | Link to Comment Manthong
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"Don't worry, Senators..." 

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:15 | Link to Comment TeamDepends
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2014 Democratic campaign slogan:  Barry who?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:20 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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Bury Obama.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:01 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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Caption should read "Thanks for your contribution to the Progressive agenda.  Good luck in your next election.  I'll still be here even if you're gone.  Just to make sure Obamacare is firmly entrenched beyond possiblity of repeal before I leave office.  I know you all feel the same way.  And if you don't, too bad.  Now show yourselves out."


Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:20 | Link to Comment TuesdayBen
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10 words

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:26 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Moi?  I sure would like to see Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-Louisiana) lose her seat.  Hypocrites like her...

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:09 | Link to Comment DaddyO
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are indicative of why Vichy DC can't be fixed...


Mon, 12/09/2013 - 05:26 | Link to Comment Tall Tom
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Don't you know how to count? No??? You must be an 'meruhkahn

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:30 | Link to Comment Hopeless for Change
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Speaking of "Contribution to the Progressive Agenda", take a look at this beauty:


JPM's $13billion fine is partially earmarked for Progressive organizations.  You can't make this shit up! 

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 00:59 | Link to Comment kchrisc
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Wow, just wow!


Too bad the guillotine can only be used once on this guy.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 01:08 | Link to Comment 401K of Dooom
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With stuff like that, I want to invest my money in the Bank of George Corly Wallace or the David Duke Hedge Fund!

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:20 | Link to Comment keninla
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or perhaps  "bury who"


Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:25 | Link to Comment OutLookingIn
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Red team. Blue team. The same, same.

Need a third party with some smart reformers that work for the people and the Constitution.

Perfect atmosphere for a "strong man" to appear and promise the moon for the common man.

Just like Hitler did in Germany during the thirties. Require a much more intelligent electorate that is involved and engaged in the electoral process, who VOTE! Ain't gonna happen. Too bad. Hello FEMA camps.  

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:45 | Link to Comment economics9698
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That "strong man" you are referring to is Hitlery Clinton. 

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:19 | Link to Comment mess nonster
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Out looking in doiesn't sound too bad when FEMA camps are involved.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:44 | Link to Comment DaddyO
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Try this video on for size and see if it is the antidote to FEMA camps...


Sun, 12/08/2013 - 23:01 | Link to Comment DaddyO
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I'm impressed with this video and the idea it puts forth, oh yeah Josie's pretty cool too...


Sun, 12/08/2013 - 23:10 | Link to Comment DaddyO
Mon, 12/09/2013 - 02:01 | Link to Comment Dick Buttkiss
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Read team, Blue team,

We all scream for our team,

Each a lofty hiding place

For that which would in fact disgrace

The lowest of the low, and yet,

We try again and only get

The same thing that we got before

But worse, and so we try once more

To find a truly worthy soul

To represent our worthy goal,

That this time we will find our man

(The last one had a lovely tan)

Or woman, as the case may be;

We just need one of them to be

The one for us, the one to do

What we ourselves are not up to.

No, wait . . .


Mon, 12/09/2013 - 05:33 | Link to Comment Tall Tom
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OutLookingIn wrote the following gibberish, "Need a third party with some smart reformers that work for the people and the Constitution."


Sorry. It is Bullshit.


THERE IS NO POLITICAL SOLUTION.  Absolutely NONE!!! When will you figure that out?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:28 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:54 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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Barney Frank has AIDS. You better get tested, sir.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:12 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Why was Barney Frank buried with his ass sticking out of the ground?  


So his friends and contributors could drop by, for a 'cold one'....

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:38 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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@ krispkritter

Ha ha, I just passed that one on to 52 people on my Joke List.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:57 | Link to Comment logicalman
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somewhere to park your bicycle!

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:29 | Link to Comment Freddie
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If Boehner, Ryan, Cantor, McCarthy and the other House RINOs do anything to move any form of amnesty then the Democrats will be saved.

Any form of amnesty will destroy the GOP.  Conservatives will stay home and give up on voting. 

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:26 | Link to Comment Shad_ow
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Ditto that if Christie is the chosen nominee.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 00:08 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Yes, and yes.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 06:59 | Link to Comment zhandax
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There may be enough idiots in this country to elect one of the blue team who is currently in office.  The same can't be said of the red team.  New blood or oblivion.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 01:17 | Link to Comment Tijuana Donkey Show
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Amnesty for illegals, for ACA, for fiat crimes. for politicians, or what? Kinda a wide range there.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:17 | Link to Comment wee-weed up
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There are only two words Democrat politicians dread...


Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:23 | Link to Comment LetThemEatRand
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Are you distinguishing the other Team?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:40 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Personally, I think the Red Team shows more contrition and owns up to their lies & misbehavior more than the Blue Team.

Not saying the Reds are not as equally dangerous to our Liberty (the Patriot Act comes to mind) but the first prominent Red Teamer who says repeal the Patriot Act wins in a landslide. 

Maybe the first Blue Teamer who says repeal ObamaCare does too.

But they would both be about repealing existing law, that says something ;-)

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:49 | Link to Comment LetThemEatRand
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I could not disagree more.  Both Teams ignored the will of the people and passed TARP "to save us."  Both Teams support NSA "to save us."  Both Team supported the Iraq ware to "save us."   Both Teams are bought and paid for by bankers and large corporations.  Both Teams support globalization.  Both Teams support the Fed.  Both Teams support the MIC.  Both Teams support militarizing the police.  The only difference between the Teams is what they say.  What they do is the same in all things that matter to people who care about Liberty.

I understand that it is difficult to give up old prejudices, but seriously.  Get over the idea that one Team is better than the other.  That idea -- the lesser of evils, where people hold their nose and vote for the guy who is slightly less bad than the other guy in their minds  -- is the single biggest reason we cannot have a real change.  

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:52 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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TARP was theft by the banks, pure and simple.  Every "representative" who voted for it didn't listen to their constituency.  100:1 against it and they still passed it.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:57 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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The last official act of any government, is to loot the Treasury.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:40 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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True dat.  Their version of "busting out the joint".

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 07:08 | Link to Comment zhandax
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LTER, I emailed all my representatives to protest TARP and the two on the red team ignored me.  The one on the blue team emailed back that I didn't know what I was talking about.  I want them all gone, but I hold a special grudge against that blue dog dipshit.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 02:49 | Link to Comment Drifter
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They can go beyond looting the treasury now, with a central bank currency they can borrow (loot) the entire wealth of the nation.

In this case they have to give Wall Street half, since Wall Street owns the Fed.

How 'bout these 9 words:  "There's a million people outside with guns, we're surrounded."

But that won't ever happen.


Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:42 | Link to Comment artless
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I think I have the list somewhere of the 24 Senators who voted against TARP. If memory serves me right more than half of them were voted out in the following election.

Give that a little thought.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:56 | Link to Comment Greenskeeper_Carl
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what he was saying is that the first person that goes against their party and says to get rid of one of those great 'accomplishments' their party was so proud of could win in a landslide. Think of a ron paul type, he had an 'R' next to his name, but he WAS different. Another republican that steps up and says he wants to repeal the patriot act, is anti-war, and also, obviously, wants to repeal obamacare, could win in a big way

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:33 | Link to Comment toady
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Don't forget medicare part D. Gotsta repeal that big pharma subsidy. I don't have any ideas on how to get the trillions back from Iraq & Afghanistan. Freeze some accounts?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:14 | Link to Comment Greenskeeper_Carl
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stop doing that kind of shit would be a good start, but that money is gone. The best we can hope for is not ever do that kind of shit again. ever. the big pharma thing would be tough. that whole revolving door thing, same with the MIC. same with big-agra. id love to see real free market capitalism work, but sadly that isnt possbile under our present system

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 00:14 | Link to Comment Drifter
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Why didn't RP win then?  He didn't even get the nomination.

It's a rigged system now.  Wall Street money controls it.  Anyone anti-Wall-Street can forget even getting a nomination.

Obama won because he's pure Wall Street with a progressive shell.  Bush was pure Wall Street with a conservative shell.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:58 | Link to Comment t0mmyBerg
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You are both right and wrong.  Repubnicants are no panacea to be sure and they have some weird ideas and socially they are clueless and a danger to liberty.  But when it comes to the subject at hand, which is lying, the Democrats are the CLEAR leaders.  It is no contest.  EVERY word out of a democrats mouth is either an outright lie or a mischaracterization.  Whereas only SOME things are out of the mouths on the right.  When it comes to intellectual dishonesty and failure to listen, the Dems win hands down.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 02:20 | Link to Comment erikaappleihzyjtyeg
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In general I agree, thought there are exceptions.

Nancy Pelosi was correct when she said "We have to pass the bill so you can find out what's in it."

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 07:13 | Link to Comment zhandax
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If you like a liar in congress, we will guaranty your right to get a new liar in congress.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:04 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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"Both Teams ignored the will of the people"

My, that is terrible. Of course, with democracy you can ignore the will of 49% of people as a matter of practice.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:08 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Both teams permanently fractured over became TP, the other Occupy. What you fail to address is why either "old team" felt it was bad policy to loan money to people who could never repay it.


Banking is the most highly regulated "industry" there is...yet...regulation failed. Why?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:13 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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The regulators are as corrupt as the congress critters overseeing the whole process?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:39 | Link to Comment nmewn
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The more fiscal & societal mayhem created, the more people scream about there should be yet another law.

Equaling more regulators and more growth of the state.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:15 | Link to Comment LetThemEatRand
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Are you serious?  Did you have a stroke?

Regulation failed because 1) the regulations that would have prevented the meltdown were dismantled by both parties during the decades leading up to the crisis, and even more importantly, 2) the regulators work for the politicians who are owned by the bankers, so the few meaningful regulations left were not enforced.  Most of the regulators want a job at a bank after they put in their time.  Corzine violated more regulations than you can count and he's probably on his Yacht right now.

You can't have a functioning government when global corporations are allowed to give unlimited money to both candidates.  If you do away with government, you cut out the middle man.  The answer is taking money out of politics, period.  The answer is not handing the keys to the guys bribing the cops.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:42 | Link to Comment nmewn
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The only one having a stroke around here is you.

The Community Reinvestment Act was a product of this incomprehensible leftist Rube Goldberg fascination you guys always succumb to, in trusting bureaucratic technocrats with your own fucking lives.

There was no law to regulate before that...just the ability to repay a loan. Pretty straight forward.

And Jimmah signed it into law like he was just planting peanuts...they were in fact, landmines.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:21 | Link to Comment LetThemEatRand
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Yes, it is purely a coincidence that bankers made trillions on the mortgage fraud.  It's really Carter's fault.  And neither party could fix it over the 30 years or so they had to do it.  Jesus, man.  You're reaching.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:40 | Link to Comment mofreedom
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Somebody has to make money when there's a theft...the other result was happy po people who one day could not pay their bills but would forever vote slippery D and blame the eveil profiteering banks and who else they could for their later living in the gutter where they deserved to live from day one after slipping out of big V.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:39 | Link to Comment LetThemEatRand
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Carter's fault.  I like it.  Much easier than everything else.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:43 | Link to Comment mofreedom
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Carter had big heart, peanut brain, who likely let the bankers or whoever the hell else is in control tug on what wanted to be tugged at.

Hell, what bank in their right mind would lend money to a crack addict, unless they were guaranteed their money back PLUS.

A shit!!!

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:06 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Reaching for your throat, perhaps, if I wasn't one of the good guys ;-)

Seriously though, Bob fucking Rubin and Chuck Schumer, the epitome of the crony-class-Fed-power-set?

For crying out loud dude, the Blue Team rammed through an entirely new law with Frank's & Dodd's own names on it (two of the biggest shysters & crooks on the planet) passing its responsibility from Congress to the Fed and you want to talk about Wall Street bankers excess and regulatory process?!?!?

Get the 2X4 out of your eye when talking about splinters.

If it wasn't FOR the Fed printing endless digits of nothingness and the banker/elite class skimming off the top (that you claim to hate), the welfare state & its protections itself (that I assume you desire) would be dead.

You can't argue it both ways LTER and never ask me for charity at the point of a gun.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 00:11 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Obamacare went through on a straight party line vote.  IMO there is a difference, not much, but some.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:35 | Link to Comment artless
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Yes it ( The Community Reinvestment Act) had an impact but you're missing the larger point. Many of these ultimately criminal entities (Fannie and FHA especially) have been around since The Great Depression. Want the REAL culprit?

Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

With an assist by Wilson.

And just to clarify Freddie was founded in 1970. That would be Nixon.

Want the genesis of a President accumulating such power as to not be stopped WHEN THE BEHAVE LIKE A COMPLETE FASCSIST?

That would be Abraham Lincoln.

Carter was about a responsible for 2008 as Reagan was for Iraq Part 1 or Part II.

The problem with most people other than they VOTE is that they have very, very short views of HISTORY.

That and they buy the crap they've been tought IN THE GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS about the GOVERNMENT. Conflict of ineterest there maybe?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:52 | Link to Comment artless
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"The answer is taking money out of politics, period.  The answer is not handing the keys to the guys bribing the cops."

Exactly how do you propose to do that? McCain/Feingold? Otherwise known as the "protect all incumbents law"?

Do you realize the extent of the regulatory code? Do you realise that tens of thousands of pages are issued new EVERY YEAR? That Bush II INCREASED the amount of regulatory funding by nearly 100% over the 8 yrs in office? You can regulate all you want but when there is an acknowledged "put" that Uncle Sam with backstop any disaster, anomoly, or black swan, and do so BY THEIR POWER TO TAX AND COLLECT THROUGH THREAT OF VIOLENCE, it will not make any difference.

In a market system eventually the big evil corporations have to have customers. Until Exxon/Mobil shows up at my door with guns and forces me to buy their product I have options. Hell even a criminal entity like JP Morgue send me letters BEGGING me to open a checking account and offering me $200 to do so. Yes both corporations benefit immensely from their politcal connections, skirt regs, etc. But that is only because there IS a third party (government) doing their dirty work. Much like someone receiving a Social Security check. They would have to come and steal the fucking money from me in person if there were not the government doing it for them (and at the same time allowing them to think that somehow their theft, their immoral behavior is different?

Well, it's not.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 10:32 | Link to Comment Dewey Cheatum Howe
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I am going to spell it out in general populist terms to show the fallacy of the whole thing and the stupidity of regulation.

Person A: Corporations own the government! (Excited, hysterical tone)

Person B: They need to be regulated.

Person A: By whom?

Person B: The government! (Excited, hysterical tone)

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:16 | Link to Comment QQQBall
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It is first string and second string of the same team. Every election, the referee blows his whistle and waves a few substitues onto the court; the replaced players sit on the bench and await their next turn. The current system ends violently; certainly not at the ballot box, . ACA was a more in your face attck on libertty and freedom. The Free Shit Army is coming for more of your life energy. 

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:32 | Link to Comment OneEyedJack
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Rand I agree. While the red team does look slightly better, they are still taking us to the same destination.

I'm left with only one option. Do not comply, the only way that they can govern, is with or by, consent of the governed.

I wonder what the reaction would be, if in a congressional district more people wrote in "no one" for a congressional seat? Would the current red or blue be allowed to appoint someone? or could we really "opt out"

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:04 | Link to Comment Blano
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It does seem like you try to come across as even handed, but it also often seems to me you lean toward the blue team.  Much better this time.  : )

Oh and don't forget the TSA goon squads.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 03:01 | Link to Comment All Risk No Reward
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There is only one team, unless you want to consider the "good cop" and the "bad cop" two different "teams" instead of employees for the same team.

"The best way to control th eopposition is to lead it."
~Vladimir Lenin

The Reds and Blues work for the same Biggest Finance Capital interests that financed them and promoted them into a position of power in the first instance.

The Republican House allowed the Senate to gut their bill so BanksterCare could pass WITHOUT ORIGINATING IN THE HOUSE.  That's a legal requirement, BUT THE REPUBLICAN STAND DOWN UNDER BIGGEST FINANCE CAPITAL ORDERS.

The Republicans are financing this runaway, exponential growing debt...  They control the House...  where SPENDING originates.



Not even Ron Paul will expose the specifc criminal intent and fraud underlying Debt Money Tyranny.  He provides cover by saying these people are "stupid."  No, they are ciminals, Ron, and it is trivial to prove.


RINOs and FLEs (fake liberal establishment) are both financed by the very same international banking cartel.  They are two arms of the very same Babylon System.

The Bankers are riding the government Beast System...  They will both conspire to prevent the buying and selling unless you OBEY.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:08 | Link to Comment artless
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"first prominent Red Teamer who says repeal the Patriot Act wins in a landslide. "

Prominent? What are you getting at? There was a "red teamer" that would have won in landslide vs Barry but I'm guessing pretty much every last person on ZH like you didn't have the stomach to actually endorse the guy or vote for him.

Ron Paul anyone? He would have handed Obama his ass on a plate in ALL THREE debates but the criminal entity known as The RNC weren't about to have some old kook take the party back to it's roots.

No, no, no the warfare/welfare machine has been way to good for them as well. As much as they might appear to be at odds with Dems they are just two crime families that have minor turf wars occasionally. They'll never take the chance of weakening the other so much as too expose the charade and have boobus americanus realise that they're just tax mules for their rulers who have been getting assraped for decades by the big red, white, and blue cock of Uncle Sam to the untimate benefit of Ratheon, Nothrop whatever, The Goldman Sack, The JP Morgue, GovernmentMotors, et al.

So which PROMINENT douchebag "Red Teamer" are you gonna prop up this time?

Christie? He is a government tool.

Rubio? He's an ice cream boy the found in a state legislature who has the right ethnicity in TPTB's eyes to soothe one group or another. Hmmmmm, obscure STATE SENATOR thrust into prominence. Where have I heard THAT before. Yeah, THAT"S gonna work real well.

Cruz? His fucking wife WORKS at The Goldman Sack. GREAT FUCKING IDEA.

Scott Walker? Ain't gonna happen. He's already bought and paid for.

And God Bless him I do adore Pointy Boots (That's Rick Perry for all you unwashed types) just for being him and fucking with the NorthEastern socialist nightnare states by trying to steal their industries (HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA) but even with his secession talk and the rest of it Ole Rick's still on Team Israel America when  it comes to things like The Patriot Act and some such.

So I'll sit by and wait to see who your masters coorinate in late 2015 and shit the stooge just might win the following Fall but even if he is Barry Goldwater on meth or somehow is soul switched with the late Harry Browne it won't matter two shits.

But carry on. The voting thing will work THIS time.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 06:05 | Link to Comment Tall Tom
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There was a Reform President that ran on a platform of complete Economic Restructuring. He assembled his team after he won in a Landslide Election. He had planned to right the wrongs of the past. He promised change and a new hope for America.


His name was...RONALD REAGAN. Well the US Treasury Agents (Secret Service) took him into the Theater in the White House, after he had won the election, showed him the Zapruder Film, and were not Remiss in their DUTIES when they told the President Elect, "This can happen to you."


Ronald Reagan was somewhat stubborn. He did NOT LISTEN. He was intent about bringing reform to a very corrupt system. And after he took office in January, 1981 the people that he chose began to implement policies contrary to the Wall Street Banker's and US Treasury's desires.


So in March, 1981, Ronald Reagan WAS SHOT in the Chest and it came very close to his heart, almost killing him.


Afterwards all of those reformers began to submit their Letters of Resignation and the planned reforms just were "forgotten about".


It just took a Bullet to the Chest to convince Ronald Reagan otherwise.


REALLY...What do you think would have happened to Dr. Ron Paul had he become President?


These people are Psychopathic Killers. They just do not think like you, or I, do. Fair is what is done at the business end of a gun.



Mon, 12/09/2013 - 14:08 | Link to Comment marathonman
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Nice rant.  +1

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:16 | Link to Comment TheReplacement
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The real truth is there are three teams but we only see two.  There are real conservatives, real liberals, and all the purple bastards in the middle.  Guess which one has been building the 'gas chambers'.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:58 | Link to Comment starfcker
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keep repeating that, mr. replacement. educating the masses to what you are saying is the key to real change. once you can shake people out of the redteam/blueteam belief system and get them to see a more nationalist/globalist freedom/totalitarianism divide, you might be able to get them to behave and vote in ways that move torwards solving this, instead of perpetuating it.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:09 | Link to Comment Bangin7GramRocks
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So, right thinking humans in the middle are the worst? Wow, you really do love the 2 party game huh!

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:22 | Link to Comment artless
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In the middle of what? The linear shape of the political scene? You mean like the "moderates"? Those folks who are willing to "work on a bipartisan proposal", "cross the aisle"?

Folks who say we should reduce the deficit/pay down the debt but insist on continuing the Ponzi scheme known as Social Security? Or not "eliminate" the Department of Education but "reform" it or "find the waste and fraud".

YES. These people are THE ABSOLUTE FUCKING WORST. Period. These are the folks that got us where we are. These are the spineless shitbags who stood by while every fucking amendment in the Bill of Rights was shredded over the last century. These are the people who "compromised" and allowed the 16th amendment, The Fed, Medicaid. Medicare, This War, That War, TARP, McCain/Feingold/ The UnAffordabe Care Act, The Prescription Drug Medicare Bennefit, SHALL I GO ON?

You either have principles and livce them or your are fucking worthless. At least with the facsist left or "liberals" as the current jargon calls them, I know what they are and they are proud to admit theit totalitarian beliefs to anyone who actually LISTENS to what they say.

Moderates, INdependents, Conservatives, whatever you want to call them they are ALL part of the problem because they are nothing more than Statist sheeple who in the end become useful idiots to the powers that be.

Perhaps the whole linear thinking is THE problem. Where exactly on that line would you put a Rothbardian Libertarian? An Anarcho-Capitalist? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Bipartisanship: When the Stupid Party and THe Evil Party get together to do something stupid and evil.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:28 | Link to Comment starfcker
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Thank you artless. I am not quite as articulate

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:07 | Link to Comment Joebloinvestor
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If the BIG PURGE of 2014 doesn't occur,



Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:11 | Link to Comment PacOps
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After watching for 6 decades and seeing the same over and over - I don't hold out much hope. And I am really willing to be massivly wrong this time.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:26 | Link to Comment Long-John-Silver
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This time it's different. This is hitting everyone hard. It's like the "Knock out Game" in that people that go through life happily ignoring politics are knocked down hard and suddenly realize they must do something to fix this problem.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:33 | Link to Comment NIHILIST CIPHER

LJS      I could share your view if you can convince me that GS and the wallstreet criminals won't own the next group of puppets that are elected to Congress. Offer up a solution to rid us of this plague.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:50 | Link to Comment Papasmurf
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You could promote a total unknown, perhaps someone from Kenya.  Oh wait...

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:27 | Link to Comment Mike in GA
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RULE #1  Any bank TBTF must get smaller and never grow to a size that risks taking our economy down with it.  NO TAXPAYER BAILOUTS PERIOD.  If you fail, you fail. 

Rule #2  Abolish the present tax code NOW, overnight.  Stop IRS payroll withholding NOW, overnight.  Institute National Sales tax collected by each state with the Fed's share broken out and forwarded to the Feds.

Rule #3  FedGov has to shrink.  Get ready for much squealing, wailing and gnashing of teeth.  We The People provide our largesse to the Feds and the states so they may serve US.  We do NOT serve them.  They've squandered and wasted and provided mightily for themselves for too long.  It's time to sell some million dollar statues and other art that our servants have bought with debt we are liable for.

Rules like this are what helped America grow strong.  Lamposts make it grow stronger.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:02 | Link to Comment Greenskeeper_Carl
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id love for you to be right, but despite their dismal approval record, the majority of people think the whole of congress is worthless and we should "vote the bums out!" but at the same time, they say "congress as a whole sucks, but my guy is ok" so, they keep re-electing their guy, nationwide, and we still get stuck with the same bunch

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:46 | Link to Comment harleyjohn45
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With 50% in the free shit gallery, the blue party will never lose again. Obama has seen to that.  Just suck it up and fend for yourself.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:11 | Link to Comment Blano
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Over 50% once the mostly brown criminal foreigners get legalized.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:25 | Link to Comment mess nonster
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If someone came along who is willing to break all the rules to fix this mess, he/she will also be bold enough to be a dictator. If you're hoping for a George Washington to come along, break the current paradigm into a milion pieces, set up a Constitutional govt and then gracefully leave the scene, I want some of the crack you're smoking.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 08:30 | Link to Comment CJHames
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I agree Mess, but 'tis good to have a dream, no?

Besides, it's the only hope we have left.


Mon, 12/09/2013 - 12:07 | Link to Comment Mike in GA
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Hope in one hand, shit in the other.  See which one fills up first.

Hope is not a strategy.


Mon, 12/09/2013 - 06:16 | Link to Comment Tall Tom
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LJS...Famous Last words..."This time it's different."


Hey...Wanna buy some MBS? How about some of them thar Bitcoin? Can I interest you in some STAWKS or Gubberment Bonds?


Yeah...Right...This time it's IS NOT.


Same as it ever was...same as it ever was.



Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:17 | Link to Comment JimS
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I am assuming you are thinking about a purge of all 535 congress people, correct? Otherwise you are pissing in the wind, or victim of the red/blue pill. ALL the bastards need to go!

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 06:23 | Link to Comment Tall Tom
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You'd also have to Impeach the Nine Supreme Court Justices as they legislate from the Bench.


There is no Political Solution and harleyjohn45's admonition sums it up quite elegantly.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:15 | Link to Comment Debt-Penitent
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They both had their chance at screwing it up.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:34 | Link to Comment NIHILIST CIPHER

Joeblo         And if we elect 535 new traitors what have we  done to solve our problems? 

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:11 | Link to Comment uno
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9 words 

NSA gave me these pictures taken from your computer

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:14 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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refusal to regulate the betting paroles of Wall Street and London has consequences. Risk is not just a financial concept. All I've ever done is read the lines in the script. this doesn't look like a movie anymore though...and yes I was part of the Vanguard of the Reagan Revolution. And yes...he did ride that horse off into the sunset. Time to say hello to the Rising Sun? "where gonna need a bigger boat"...or at least a whole lot more of them.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:20 | Link to Comment I am Jobe
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They are shitting bricks 


Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:22 | Link to Comment autofixer
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"What difference does it make!?"

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:44 | Link to Comment toady
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There is no difference.

I'm actually half-hoping for the blue team this time around.

After they don't defund the ACA or get rid of it, and they don't cut spending, and they don't prosecute the last decade of malfeasance, as they've called for now for what, the last five years, then what happens?

Maybe then a few more people will see those red/blue bastards for what they are.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:29 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:39 | Link to Comment lasvegaspersona
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As a long time Republican I have reached the point of being beyond giving them another chance. Bush fucked us, half the Red team are white shoed guys who care naught for liberty. Even my Critter, Joe Heck MD (soon to be General Joe Heck if he behaves) voted to fund the NSA when he had a chance to do otherwise.

We have way too many Rs off the reservation (RINOs we call 'em) and the whole lot, Rs and Ds, have ceeded all legilative power to the executive. Why support congress if they collectively do not have the balls to demand that the president comply with constitutional limitations?

I do understand that the Ds have 'their guy' in charge but the whole bunch is useless collectively and individually I'd shake hands with fewer than 1 in 50.

Most of them do not see where the dollar is heading and think they can fix things.


In summary, Congress will have to do without my massive support...I'm sure they'll come around eventually.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:30 | Link to Comment Vendetta
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the entire political system is a whack-a-mole contest ... with the only real loser in the process is the nation

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:57 | Link to Comment Freddie
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If the RINOs in the House like Boehner, Ryan and Cantor push any form of Obama's amnesty then it will be the final straw.  The GOP will be dead.   Maybe it will be a good thing because there will be no point in voting.   The Dems/RINOs can and do rig elections.

Ballot Box - those are totally rigged

Jury Box - the courts are a joke.

Cartirdge Box

A man's rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box, and the cartridge box.

-Frederick Douglass in a speech delivered on November 15, 1867

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:40 | Link to Comment NIHILIST CIPHER

9 words...............The guillotines are ready out front for you senators.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:57 | Link to Comment PubliusTacitus
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Heads on pikes.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:13 | Link to Comment NIHILIST CIPHER

LET'S MAKE THIS PERFECTLY CLEAR......Until the cockroaches are punished, no smoke and mirrors, REAL punishment we won't have change. We have to have life sentences or something REAL to foment honest governance. WHATEVER IT TAKES to make these people unnderstand that selling out the citizens WILL HAVE SERIOUS CONSEQUENCES. DEMAND IT AND DON'T STOP DEMANDING IT TIL THERE IS TRUE CHANGE.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:47 | Link to Comment Caveman93
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Well you can always write your congressperson and get a nice, non-personallized form letter back as a response.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 08:16 | Link to Comment CJHames
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I have no idea what the hell you said, I just gave you a thumbs up for your profile thumb.  

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:48 | Link to Comment frankthomaswhite59
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the woman in the cartoon looks just like mary landrieu

the long time us senator [d] from louisiana!

her brother is the mayor of new orleans as was their

father "moon" landrieu.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:34 | Link to Comment frankthomaswhite59
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can I get a witness?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:50 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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FUCK every one of the politicians what forced Obamacrap down our throat.  You don't pass bills into law without proper vetting and debate.  This "you gotta pass it to see what's in it" doesn't fly.  Piglosi should be strung up.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:10 | Link to Comment ThroxxOfVron
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C'mon, Klink; -stop talking like Schultz, those Assholes knew full well what the ACA was designed to do when They voted for it.


Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:19 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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Sure but from what I recall they were going to make sure it was public 48 hours before a vote.  Didn't happen.  I also recall that not one RINO/Repugnant voted for it.  Neither has a pass in my book though.  EACH AND EVERY ONE in CONgress violated their oath of office, and they continue to do so.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:59 | Link to Comment Cloud9.5
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Vote out all of them out.  Vote for anything that is not a Democrat or a Republican.  Teach them what job insecurity is all about.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:46 | Link to Comment NIHILIST CIPHER


The coup was in 1963. The communist revolution started in 2008.

The elections are useless........ask a russian!

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:54 | Link to Comment NIHILIST CIPHER

Bring multinational corporations to their knees! Sacrifice them one at a time til we get REAL CHANGE. Wallmart can be weakened to the point of begging, then use them as a hostage for change.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:27 | Link to Comment Constitutional ...
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Correct, Nihilist Cipher.

The coup d'etat took place with the assassination of JFK who vowed to end the 'conspiracy' which wanted to 'enslave every man, woman and child' in the U.S.

A week later, those international zionist financiers killed him, putting the guns into the hands of patsies, and the Presidency into the hands of that oilman zionist corrupt jerk LBJ, with the promise of the 'great society'...bought with debt, of course. All for the Internationale, Rothschild led central banks, the old feudalists now expanding the new feudalism.

The debtor's prison.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:03 | Link to Comment NIHILIST CIPHER

Constitutional         I think the problem with ZH community is that these folks don't understand that we have been taken over by the progressive communists in a REAL REVOLUTION. That must be the reason why they think elections will bring about change......not a chance.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 02:17 | Link to Comment One World Mafia
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Write in your vote.  The bankers are relying on the machines, no longer as much on human vote counters.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:02 | Link to Comment putbuyer
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Vote Tea Party conservitive and be one.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:20 | Link to Comment starfcker
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Whoever downvoted putbuyer, stop and think for a minute. the conservatives in the house have stopped  (so far) amnesty/open borders, endless food stamps, war with syria, and tried to defund obamacare. the sequester cuts still stand. that's not important? think about it. and congratulations on you all getting the right to marry

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:24 | Link to Comment nmewn
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Its like beating on a concrete wall with a sledge hammer, keep banging, its cracking.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:32 | Link to Comment mess nonster
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Eh. I remember Newtie Grinchgrinch and the "Contract with America". I have 100% confidence in the Tea Party... to sell us out and join the kleptocrats at the very first opportunity.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 23:28 | Link to Comment starfcker
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You're right. Some do sell us out at the first opportunity. vote them out at the first opportunity  (in case you have a calender, that's 2016 marco). next year could be huge. 

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 09:38 | Link to Comment scattergun
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9 words:
The cleaning lady is pregnant, she mentioned DNA testing.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:08 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Vote today! Because tomorrow, it still won't mean shit! Regards, Red/Blue Team. (Vote NOTA; None of the Assholes, er. Above)

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:07 | Link to Comment Greenskeeper_Carl
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doesnt matter. shit will either be fixed and 'making things great for everyone', or it will still be a complete fuck-tastrophe but the media will just tell them it is great, which is the same thing, and most people will have forgotten any of this even happened. bread and circuses. long dancing with the stars/reality tv

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:07 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Yes.   This is why I stopped watching TV and Hollywood's shit years ago.  They support Obama 110%. Fox is no better.  Sheep who watch TV and Hollywood's shit enable this.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:23 | Link to Comment Greenskeeper_Carl
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good for you for getting rid of it, but TV in and of itsef isnt the problem, it is apathy. I enjoy college football too much to get rid of mine, and watching the news, BS as it may be, keeps one informed of the BS that is being pushed on the masses these days. but the fact that most people are too stupid to realize what is hapening is the problem. reality tv is a symptom, not the cause of it. it begins in our education system, and as long as children are taught what to belive, rather tan how to think, even ridding the country of televisions wont fix anything

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:14 | Link to Comment Blano
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Football is why I keep mine as well.  After the Super Bowl my TV probably won't come on again until next August.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 06:56 | Link to Comment Tall Tom
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The Professional Football Games are fixed.


I watched one, a San Diego Wasuington Redskins game, where the Referee made three consecutive Pass Interference Calls. The problem was that on the first two plays there was no Pass all.


(The Liquor Store Clerk would not let me leave after I told him that San Diego would score a Touchdown on the closing drive of the First Half in order to make people not change the channel. (Of course they did.) I told him that San Diego would win that game. (They did.) It makes the "Playoff Race" between Denver and KC more intriuging and entertaining.


Nielson has the little audience share boxes in a few thousand living rooms in America. When the score becomes too imbalanced the audience share drops off. The advertisers pay for those team's payrolls. If a game begins to lose audience share a phone call is made. Then the officials make the calls on the field of Holding and other "Penalties" that they just overlooked before. (Or they will overlook obvious fouls...) It is just so blatant and so transparent.


Playoff Games, Wil Cards and Home Field Advantage are all set up to optimize Profits from Television Audience Share.


Professional Football is just as FAKE as WWF Professional Wrestling. Oh yes. The players do get hurt sometimes, just like the Wrestlers in the Ring. Jessie Ventura will tell you about that. But he does not deny that it is fixed.


Pro Football is the same way. It is a business, it is entertainment and it is about the money.


Why waste your time on that which is fake and counterfeit?


When Money is involved it corrupts anything and everything. It is amazing what people will do or say for money.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:12 | Link to Comment NIHILIST CIPHER

G_Carl         The plane has ALREADY HIT THE MOUNTAIN! What you just described is where we have been for going on 6 years. Think about new ways to survive as a free people.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:18 | Link to Comment Dewey Cheatum Howe
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The one word municipal unions dread, Detroit.,0,...


It's not just Detroit retirees who are worried about their pensions. Financially troubled cities in California, Illinois and Pennsylvania will soon face decisions on what to do with chronically underfunded pension funds, and experts say the Detroit ruling has made it easier for cities to argue that pensions must be cut.

"If I were a retired public-sector pensioner, I'd be worried today," said Olivia Mitchell, a professor at the Wharton School of Business and the director of the Pension Research Council.

For decades, representatives of public-sector pensions have depended on constitutional provisions in various states, including Michigan and Illinois, that protected pensions. Now, U.S. Bankruptcy Judge Steven Rhodes' ruling has shown that federal bankruptcy laws preempt those state provisions. Any city that has underfunded pensions and troubled finances could soon look to bankruptcy as a way out of paying pensions, experts say, as long as their state allows them to file for Chapter 9 protection.

"This is really the first time that there's been a clear decision by a judge that, yes, pension promises are on the cutting board too," Mitchell said.

Few experts believe that pensions of current retirees will be cut significantly, and many cities probably will negotiate with unions on pension payouts rather than go through bankruptcy to avoid doing so.


Rhodes' ruling, issued Tuesday, could have implications in California cities such as San Bernardino, which was deemed eligible for bankruptcy this year but is still battling with the California Public Employees' Retirement System over what it owes the pension fund and what it will pay into it in the future. The ruling may also give more bargaining power to the city of Vallejo, which emerged from bankruptcy protection two years ago but is again struggling with rising pension costs.

Cities in upstate New York, including Syracuse, and towns in Pennsylvania, such as Scranton, could look at Rhodes' decision and be influenced to file for bankruptcy, said Robert Novy-Marx, a professor of finance with the Simon School of Business at the University of Rochester.

"This ruling is just enormously important. It's a total sea change," he said. "The threat of bankruptcy now gives municipalities a little more power at the bargaining table."


Now eyes will be on Detroit as it decides how to pay its pensioners and other bondholders while still providing essential city services.

"We have yet to have a case that really governs how the court is supposed to divvy up what's available among creditors when there's not enough to go around," said Mark Kaufman, a bankruptcy attorney who was the lead counsel in restructuring Harrisburg, Pa., which altered its finances without filing for bankruptcy. "That's now about to unfold in Detroit."


And with that settled the domino effect will commence.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:59 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Let em eat ***king cake. Let the union bail them out.

The bond holders too plus the rating agencies. 

These shitty muni bonds should all be CCC- not A or AA.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:32 | Link to Comment Constitutional ...
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Detroit is the template. .gov pensions thought they were sacrosanct. They are not. Now we will see every .gov worker scream and threaten. Politicians will play to the gallery, and ruin the pensioners anyway. 

This show is only just beginning. It's the bankster pals vs everyone else. And those who voted for the bankster pals will be the most violent and abusive as they discover that they were cheated, bamboozled, had.

Meanwhile, the bankster pals will run off with the money, as they exempt themselves and their staff from the laws they impose on others.

This is the first stage of the corrupt Internationale, otherwise known as socialism and communism (led by zionist banksters).

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:36 | Link to Comment mess nonster
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Anybody who thnks they are going to get a pension needs to get in touch with me, because I have a bridge for sale.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 23:42 | Link to Comment forwardho
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Your international sign of distress would seem to be apropriate.


Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:11 | Link to Comment Boondocker
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we have to shake the sheeple from their slumber.... we are out numbered

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:14 | Link to Comment magnetic_silver...
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 This is bullish for gold. Buy more gold.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:19 | Link to Comment Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, a bioethicist and architect of Obamacare, told Fox News anchor Chris Wallace that if you like your doctor and want to keep your doctor, you’ll just have to pay more for it.



Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:16 | Link to Comment Oldwood
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Dependency always gets expensive.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:18 | Link to Comment Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Yes it does and a very wise observation.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:21 | Link to Comment QQQBall
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Judge ruled - blah, blah, blah. What cannot be paid will not be paid. AS Karl Denninger has pointed out on numerous subject - Its just math.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:27 | Link to Comment putbuyer
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You just do it right. Looking for coin are ya? Well let me tell ya something. ZH has been giving us the goods.

You click on them ads to help ZH keep the ship afloat

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:29 | Link to Comment harleyjohn45
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What can the democrats say to make people have any faith in them.  They had to know what they were voting for, because the republicians knew it would be a disaster.  I think the people who wrote this thing did not tell the democrats who never read it, just how many people would lose insurance.  They are rewriting the bill daily, it is not anything like what was voted on.  We are so screwed.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:34 | Link to Comment stant
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the mobile ass launcher is going to get a work out in 2014. but the damage is done. no stoping that

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:43 | Link to Comment eddiebe
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Are we really stupid enough to think our vote matters, or whether we get a republican or a democrat?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:59 | Link to Comment logicalman
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one word that scares the shit out of all of them?


Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:09 | Link to Comment Fix It Again Timmy
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Raze Washington, DC to the ground, I mean make it as flat as a billiard table - would America stop running?  Hardly not...... It would run better....

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:12 | Link to Comment Constitutional ...
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I want them to keep their seats, every single one of them: Democrap and Repugnant. Why?

So that they can face the angry baying mob when their decades old sell out to international financiers which profited only them is exposed in the collapse of the USD, revealing the traitors within and those who voted for them. All in it together. They all voted for it.

Wiser people have been making plans to live and prosper among their own communities when that $hit show ends.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:24 | Link to Comment NIHILIST CIPHER

constitutional     When the USD tanks and the FSA goes full retard you and me and everybody else will be trying to stay alive or we will be on the bus to FEMA camp so you need a new plan brother. These traitors need to be dealt with before that happens. Besides they fully intend to drop a war on your head at the same time as the collapse.

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