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Japan Press: "China-Japan War To Break Out In January"

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Following China's unveiling of its air defense identification zone (ADIZ) in the East China Sea, overlapping a large expanse of territory also claimed by Japan, the Japanese media has, as The Japan Times reports, had a dramatically visceral reaction on the various scenarios of a shooting war. From Sunday Mainichi's "Sino-Japanese war to break out in January," to Flash's "Simulated breakout of war over the Senkakus," the nationalism (that Kyle Bass so notably commented on) is rising. Which side, wonders Shukan Gendai ominously, will respond to a provocation by pulling the trigger? The game of chicken between two great superpowers is about to begin has begun.

Via The Japan Times,

Five out of nine weekly magazines that went on sale last Monday and Tuesday contained scenarios that raised the possibility of a shooting war.




First, let’s take Flash (Dec. 17), which ran a “Simulated breakout of war over the Senkakus,” with Mamoru Sato, a former Air Self-Defense Force general, providing editorial supervision. Flash’s scenario has the same tense tone as a Clancy novel, including dialog. On a day in August 2014, a radar operator instructs patrolling F-15J pilots to “scramble north” at an altitude of 65,000 feet to intercept a suspected intruder and proceeds from there.


Sunday Mainichi (Dec. 15) ran an article headlined “Sino-Japanese war to break out in January.” Political reporter Takao Toshikawa tells the magazine that the key to what happens next will depend on China’s economy.


“The economic situation in China is pretty rough right now, and from the start of next year it’s expected to worsen,” says Toshikawa. “The real-estate boom is headed for a total collapse and the economic disparities between the costal regions and the interior continue to widen. I see no signs that the party’s Central Committee is getting matters sorted out.”


An unnamed diplomatic source offered the prediction that the Chinese might very well set off an incident “accidentally on purpose”: “I worry about the possibility they might force down a civilian airliner and hold the passengers hostage,” he suggested.


In an article described as a “worst-case simulation,” author Osamu Eya expressed concerns in Shukan Asahi Geino (Dec. 12) that oil supertankers bound for Japan might be targeted.


“Japan depends on sea transport for oil and other material resources,” said Eya. “If China were to target them, nothing could be worse to contemplate.”


In an air battle over the Senkakus, the Geino article continues, superiority of radar communications would be a key factor in determining the outcome. Japanese forces have five fixed radar stations in Kyushu and four in Okinawa. China would certainly target these, which would mean surrounding communities would also be vulnerable.


One question that seems to be on almost everybody’s mind is, will the U.S. military become involved?


Shukan Gendai (Dec. 14) speculated that Chinese leader Xi Jinping might issue an order for a Japanese civilian airliner to be shot down. As a result of this, a U.S. Navy aircraft carrier would come to Japan’s aid and send up fighters to contend with the Chinese.


Unlike Japan, the U.S. military would immediately respond to a radar lock-on threat by shooting down the Chinese planes,” asserts military analyst Mitsuhiro Sera. “It would naturally regard an aircraft flying overhead as hostile. They would shoot at it even if that were to risk discrediting the Obama administration.”


“With the creation of Japan’s National Security Council on Dec. 4, Japan-U.S. solidarity meets a new era,” an unnamed diplomatic source told Shukan Gendai. “If a clash were to occur between the U.S. and China, it would be natural for the Self-Defense Forces to provide backup assistance. This was confirmed at the ‘two-plus-two’ meeting on Oct. 3.”


“China is bent on wresting the Senkakus away from Japan, and if Japan dispatches its Self-Defense Forces, China will respond with naval and air forces,” Saburo Takai predicts in Flash. “In the case of an incursion by irregular forces, that would make it more difficult for the U.S. to become involved. Japan’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs would protest through diplomatic channels, but China would attempt to present its takeover as a fait accompli.


“China fears a direct military confrontation with the U.S.,” Takai adds. “A few days ago, two U.S. B-52s transited the ADIZ claimed by China, but the flights were not for any vague purpose. I suppose the Chinese tracked the flights on their radar, but the B-52s have electronic detection functions that can identify radar frequencies, wavelength and source of the signals. These flights are able to lay bare China’s air defense systems. It really hits home to the Chinese that they can’t project their military power.”


Which side, wonders Shukan Gendai, will respond to a provocation by pulling the trigger? The game of chicken between two great superpowers is about to begin.


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Sun, 12/08/2013 - 17:55 | 4227382 monkeyboy
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Thanks for the heads up.


Will postpone my radioactive snow boarding trip & head elsewhere's this season.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:05 | 4227415 James_Cole
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Don't these two countries have enough problems to content with without adding a war to the mix? Oh wait... I see what you did there. Clever.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:09 | 4227428 stacking12321
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this development is extremely bullish for bitcoin!

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:16 | 4227439 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Somebody just had to do it, didn't they?

Commence comment thread pollution thicker than Shanghai air.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:21 | 4227458 nmewn
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You'll know its a serious mattering thing when BitObama proclaims another redline.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:29 | 4227477 CClarity
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When printing doesn't fix economic challenges, war does. This plan was attempted in the 30s as your history lessons will recall.
This time Rising Sun may also refer to rising radiation.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:36 | 4227492 Bananamerican
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one bunker buster on reactor #4 = shortest war in history....also shortest gloating period.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:45 | 4227509 malikai
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LOL at people taking this nonsense seriously.

"force down an airliner and take hostages"


Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:52 | 4227522 Occident Mortal
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When it comes to organised violence... The West is best.

Always has been, always will be.

China would lose any war.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:06 | 4227554 Manthong
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"one bunker buster on reactor #4"

That'll never happen.. China is not North Korea..

Besides, a few M-80's would probably be adequate to topple that tilting swimming pool in the sky. 

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:29 | 4227601 mjcOH1
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" Unlike Japan, the U.S. military would immediately respond to a radar lock-on threat by shooting down the Chinese planes,” asserts military analyst Mitsuhiro Sera. “It would naturally regard an aircraft flying overhead as hostile. They would shoot at it even if that were to risk discrediting the Obama administration.”

I suspect someone will disappointed to learn otherwise.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:30 | 4227640 autofixer
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Its not like we haven't shot down an A300 full of people before. 

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:11 | 4227746 kliguy38
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WHAT? THEY already gave up on Bread and Circus and now wanna serve us the "main course"..........

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:16 | 4227929 disabledvet
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maybe "January" means something different in Japanese? you know "year 4324 in your Roman tongue" or something like that.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:37 | 4227954 LetThemEatRand
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No, it means the same thing.  But they put an extra "r" before the "u".  Janruary.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:31 | 4228129 old naughty
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Didn't long-face who just visited China (and UKPM too) said in July peace in the holy land in 9 months...

so war and peace all in Q1-2014, hummmmm.

Must be the not-yet-dead Ison bringing down burning rocks on us, no?

Hey, they found a planet 10 times the size of Jupiter circling around its host sun 30+ times the distance our Neptune is. (Considered ultra unlikely here before)

Well, ...

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:51 | 4228179 markmotive
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Both China and Japan have an aging demographic. So what future generations are going to pay for a war?

Anyone thinking of entering war should learn from history. Peak war costs occur decades after the shooting stops.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 06:25 | 4228714 Lore
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No need for all this "war" nonsense.  Just stop listening to dishonest men. 

Order outta chaos... Bitchez.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 07:51 | 4228772 GetZeeGold
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It's time to go old school.......break out the ninjas......and let's get it on!

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:36 | 4228139 akak
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That is collect!

You are very light.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:38 | 4228143 Son of Loki
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Pearl Harbor, Part II

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 23:06 | 4228219 disabledvet
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one problem with war is "it's never like the last one." and no "you don't need a bunker buster to take down Building 4." a sonic boom would probably do the trick right now.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 04:56 | 4228683 Oracle 911
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I like to see, you guys like these fantasy war-games.

Personally I think the US government will chicken out 1st. Why?

Because he is behind the Abe's foreign policy, so China may say in January, "We may be forced sell all of our 10 year US treasury notes at once , because we need finance that war". China is very well aware, of that fact who is pushing Japan into this conflict (China is not that naive as the US government thinks).

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:26 | 4228115 hunglow
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I was there.  Were you.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:55 | 4228026 El Tuco
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Yeah..if I recall didn't the Chinese force down a US Military plane and hold the crew hostage for a few weeks while demanding an apoligy from Bush? I don't think America has it in her to pick a fight with someone who might not beat her but surely could cause some serious problems for her friends (i.e. Japan, Korea, etc).

Best to sit quietly and let Japan take it in the nuts....

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:20 | 4228095 old naughty
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b,b,but...Japan had taken it in the nuts (eh. guts perhaps) on 311.

All the commotions (including shooting next) are to re-direct desperation feeling away from fuk-u (Yes, I feel for the world too).

"...bunker buster on reactor #4..." (if this or that happen) could shift the blames (temporarily) from one local .gov to a foreign one.

It will likely result in another ww (so you wonder if Japan isn't back against the wall already?)

One way or the other, the rising sun WILL SET !!!  (You wonder if they see it in the charts...)

I pray for the 130 million brothers who have been placed on the altar.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:38 | 4228142 OldPhart
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We have some pretty cool-headed pilots.  I doubt there would be a shoot-down without orders.

Remember our last publicized encounter


Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:44 | 4228064 Professor Fate
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Jeez, I wish I had some M-80s, Manthong.  There was a time I wouldn't leave the house without a few M-80s or Cherry Bombs in my pocket.  They always came in so handy.

Fate the Magnificnet
"Push the Button, Max"

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 02:06 | 4228533 cynicalskeptic
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Can't buy them now..... all you can get are oversized firecrackers.  Thank our protectors at Homeland Security.   Just think of what a terrorist could do with a gross of M-80's.....bwahaaaaa.....

hell, the stuff kids did 40 years ago would get you prosecuted for as a terrorist today - I remember one moron who basically built a pipe bomb and set it off attached to a propane tank - just to see what would happen.....  what happened is he almost killed himself, left a nice big crater in a local golf course and left people thinking there had been a 3.4 earthquake..... all thanks to readily available M-80's.........

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:36 | 4227976 indygo55
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The way I understand it a pea shooter will topple reactor #4 .

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:36 | 4227979 Kassandra
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Excellent way to take care of Fukuppy!

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:01 | 4228036 kridkrid
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Did you call?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 23:53 | 4228320 e_goldstein
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So, when you gonna hatch? When do we get to see what's inside?

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 11:13 | 4229069 zerozulu
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In case of Japan it is "Breaking bad" Nippon style.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:30 | 4227482 Pure Evil
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Not to worry.

Obamacare will save us.

And, the FSA will defend our freedumbs.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 06:39 | 4228727 screw face
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Ogeiger has red line to #Fukushima ya mean, ......the big boys know what the fix is.


Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:05 | 4227553 fonestar
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Why are you trying to bring Bitcoin into this?  I am already handling sixteen threads on multiple websites.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:28 | 4227636 gtb
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Now that's funny.  Maybe you're not a total asshole.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:54 | 4227689 LetThemEatRand
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He's 21, maybe younger.  His favorite metaphors involve videogames.  He's probably a decent guy who has just a few years of adulthood under his belt but thinks he has it all figured out.   I hope he makes a zillion dollars on BitCoin.  Better than Jamie Dimon banking another Bill.  Or he's NSA or a Goldman/JPM plant to pump and dump.  In which case I hope he is eaten by ants.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:11 | 4227747 akak
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For as often as we have disagreed in the past, LTER, I am in 1000% agreement with you in this post.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:20 | 4227765 Pure Evil
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Did everyone miss the post where he said he was trolling 18 other sites spreading his version of the BitCoin bible?

Sure sounds like a pump and dump to me.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:30 | 4227794 LetThemEatRand
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Probably.  I'll spring for the honey.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 02:13 | 4228541 fonestar
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According to you boneheads I should sell the best performing part of my portfolio and replace it with items that will only see a rise in value when the whole world blows up and go crazy.  It's not that I wouldn't hire you as an asset manager, it's just that I don't think anyone would hire you at all (take advice from the winners).

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 03:41 | 4228643 Ghordius
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portfolio? sure? I had the impression it was more a holy book or something

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:34 | 4227799 fonestar
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"He's 21, maybe younger."


In the p-world I am 35.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:58 | 4227875 LetThemEatRand
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So you are in marketing?  I guess I'm hoping for the ants, then.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:17 | 4227928 nmewn
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lol...give it another ten to twenty BitYears and you'll wise up kiddo

Hopefully (for you) on the outside of physical bars.

Just sayin, dou entendre intended ;-)

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 06:50 | 4228732 Clashfan
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Nmewn is a 911 truth denier. One has to wonder if he's also a fart denier.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:02 | 4228044 FredFlintstone
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35 yo (P-world) = chronological age

IQ = 60

Mental age = 60/100 x 35 = 21

LTER is correct! 21 yo mentally 

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 23:14 | 4228233 disabledvet
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Math still seems superior than in Summation form...

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 00:38 | 4228390 silverserfer
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as in perpetual adolescence world. 35 going on 21 sounds about right.  

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 02:14 | 4228535 fonestar
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My Bitcoins are up thousands of percent since I got in at $16.  Did most of my buying < $50 BTC.  How are your mental reject's portfolios doing?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:27 | 4227473 FieldingMellish
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Not so sure. Two most liquid BTC exchanges are in China and Japan.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:42 | 4227506 cossack55
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As flames are lethal for fiat, EMP is lethal for BTC

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:07 | 4227727 magnetic_silver...
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You don't need flames to fucke up FIAT. Fiat destroys itself like cancer. It's managed by bureaucrats which don't have the slightest degree of appreciation for any school of economics except hookers and cocaine.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:09 | 4227732 magnetic_silver...
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EMP will wipe out humanity. But that was too deep for you to reason. One step at a time for you. Make sure you chew your food before swallowing.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:26 | 4227773 Pure Evil
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As opposed to someone like you that likes to swallow it whole and slurp up any leftovers drooling down your chin.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:28 | 4227781 unrulian
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<----- She's bloody Hot 

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:29 | 4227481 Debeachesand Je...
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Also extremely bullish for Gold and Silver.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:05 | 4227721 magnetic_silver...
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Super bullish for all the gold calf worshipping ZH's posters which still can't figure out how computers work and encryption makes counterfeit implausible.

They can make little spoons, earings, bowls and rings with their gold. They're so proud, they will correct you if you miss one of gold's 'instrinsic' value.

Plus, ZH's are all supeer wealthy, that's why they can't spell, have bad sentence structure and only use 4th grade vocabulary. They're so wealthy, they skipped learning the protocols of language, law and reason.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:20 | 4227767 Meatballs
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You forgot to call us bitchez.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:07 | 4228060 Deo vindice
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"Plus, ZH's are all supeer wealthy, that's why they can't spell.."

Enough said. Are you 'pot' or 'kettle'?

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 06:31 | 4228722 Lore
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The comma splice will be his undoing.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:38 | 4227813 Tijuana Donkey Show
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MSI, you're MDB and Trav777 back in a new avatar! I've missed you and your drive for downvotes. I still think you're one of the Durdens....

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 00:59 | 4228424 atm0sphere
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still, even with all the shit comments on ZH, it's the only place to go.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:54 | 4227870 logicalman
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The day the Gov gets hold of quantum computers (who else is likely to be able to fund the reaearch) all encryption other than quantum encryption becomes obsolete.

I thing putting faith in encryption, at this stage of the game is idiotic, but there are plenty of idiots.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:05 | 4228051 intotheblack
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Some of them are even useful. Useful idiots.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 02:02 | 4228529 Crash Overide
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"The day the Gov gets hold of quantum computers (who else is likely to be able to fund the reaearch) all encryption other than quantum encryption becomes obsolete."



Sun, 12/08/2013 - 23:33 | 4228278 SonOfSoros
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Dun ya go hatin on me juz cus I stack 500gs of gowd a month!

U b hatin moi vocabuwary and spwelling? U zealous?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 23:40 | 4228295 Miffed Microbio...
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Well, at least we all don't have funny looking tube boobs trying to fit into size A cup bathing suits.


Mon, 12/09/2013 - 02:48 | 4228598 Rukeysers Ghost
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"They can make little spoons, earings, bowls and rings with their gold."


Little gold spoons are very important. You can't move coke from a pile on the table into your nose with Bitcoins.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:53 | 4227861 G.O.O.D
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Wait .. wait ..wait just one minute. Nobody goes to war unless US says they can go to war. Who the fvk do they think they are? Don't they know WE have the whole war monopoly thingy? Since they didn't bow down and lick boots and ask permission, we will just have to bomb the shit outa both of them.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:48 | 4228004 PT
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:  "Hi Abe.  Aaahh, we got a few problems over here.  Having a few teething problems with QEn, O'care etc, we need to lay low for a little while, Ummm, we're wondering if you could do us a favour?"

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:06 | 4227556 monkeyboy
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Another reason to avoid the YELLOW snow

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:50 | 4228173 Wahooo
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Year of the Horse, a phallic symbol in those parts from what I read. Just what we need, two macho nations with woodies.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 06:24 | 4228718 merizobeach
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It's OK. Remember, Misters Abe and Xi aren't packing horse cocks.  Oh, right, that's likely part of the problem.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 06:54 | 4228735 Lore
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re: "Just what we need, two macho nations with woodies." 

Bad diet and lifestyle may be key to world peace:  30 million American men battling erectile dysfunction (2009)

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 02:27 | 4228570 IrritableBowels
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Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:27 | 4227953 AngelEyes00
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If they get into it all China would have to do is drop a daily cutter on Fukushima.  Game, set and match. 

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 17:56 | 4227384 Sufiy
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Now it makes even more sense:

China October Gold Imports Surge To Second Highest Ever GLD, MUX, TNR.v, GDX

 "ZeroHedge reports that fly of Gold from the West To East continues at unprecedented rate and all the hype with Bitcoin and "Gold 2.0" can be safely put aside now. China uses every opportunity to accumulate the real physical Gold at these prices. Another surprise comes when China will report its Gold reserves. All Gold manipulation in the West just made the Fractional Gold Reserve System vulnerable to the Bank Run, when people will demand physical delivery. Bitcoin bust will bring this day very soon. There will be a very significant problem - There Are 69 Owners Per One Gold Oz at COMEX now."

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:44 | 4227505 Race Car Driver
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> There Are 69 Owners Per One Gold Oz at COMEX now.

Sixty-nine people circling a chair. The calliope is deafening ...

"All around the mulberry bush ..."

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:55 | 4227535 Papasmurf
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This is not a problem because the rules say settled in cash in the case of a default.  When product can't be delivered, buyers will dry up, sending paper gold down.  Contracts will be settled at a loss.  It will be a breakdown, not a melt up.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:12 | 4227578 Buckaroo Banzai
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When the paper exchange defaults, pricing power will shift to the physical exchanges.

When that happens, the price will necessarily skyrocket, simply because a massive source of artificial supply will suddenly vanish.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:19 | 4227597 TeamDepends
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They'll be happy to take FRNs instead.


Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:54 | 4227850 Papasmurf
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@BB Exactly.  If there is a comex failure, gold, both paper any phycial is headed down.  Aferwards physical is going up.  When paper and physical go down, physical will be locked in the vault and the LCS will be shuttered.  Weak hands holding physical will be shaken out of the market at the cash for gold emporiums.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 12:48 | 4229357 viahj
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"something, something...blood on the streets..something"

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:10 | 4227737 magnetic_silver...
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It will reach 500 to 1 and nothing will change. It's a captured system.

Keep thinking someone is going to come and save you.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:48 | 4228005 TheFourthStooge-ing
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What a boob...

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:51 | 4228012 FredFlintstone
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Good one!

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 01:08 | 4228432 evokanivo
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Says who? Not saying it's wrong, but give a more credible source than some blog maybe.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 17:55 | 4227385 I am Jobe
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Tylers- Got to publish this


Blackstone Made Money on Credit-Default Swaps With This One Weird Trick


Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:24 | 4227465 The Gooch
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Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:44 | 4227669 Josh Randall
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"If I had a country, it would look like Japan"

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:22 | 4227610 Withdrawn Sanction
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I like the way Bloomberg calls it a "weird" trick.  How childishly dishonest.  It was manipulation plain and simple w/a dollop of malfeasance on top.  But Blackstone's one of the boyz and they'll be offering nice jobs to (former) US Attorneys who dont prosecute them.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:57 | 4227878 Papasmurf
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It wasn't chidishly dishonest, it was blatant fraud.  In a society of laws, they would be prosecuted.  It' no different than buying fire insurance and conspiring to have your building burned.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 02:51 | 4228600 IrritableBowels
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I think Withdraw was talking about Bloomberg's spin, not the actions of Blackstone...?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 17:55 | 4227386 TeamDepends
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And to the winner the spoils:  A radiation zone or a smog bank.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:20 | 4227455 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Japan's secret weapon: giant bank of fans just offshore of Fukushima Daiichi, directed westward toward the smog banks.

Yeah, it irradiates the fuck out of Honshu and Korea in the process, but nobody cares.

Because Abe.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:33 | 4227487 Pure Evil
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Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:54 | 4227526 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Oh, fuck, you're right.

Everybody, sorry, I was wrong. Those giant fan banks are for the cooling process involved with freezing the ground around the contained incident at the power plant in cold shutdown.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 00:45 | 4228402 silverserfer
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its a nice warm spot. godzilla built a nest there and laid eggs.  

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 10:31 | 4228968 zerozulu
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Moderen days "Kamikaze"  kami=God, kaze= wind

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:52 | 4227524 A Nanny Moose
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no no no....secret weapon is Godzirraaaa!!!!

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:04 | 4227550 TeamDepends
Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:29 | 4227784 unrulian
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Moron Abe

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 17:56 | 4227389 Colonel Klink
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What does Japan really have to lose?  They've already irradiated their island.  Why not take a chance to expand their territory to something not as polluted?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 17:57 | 4227396 Sudden Debt
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As Klink would have said: LEBENSRAUM!!

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:58 | 4227704 Colonel Klink
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You say that like there's something wrong with it. ;o)

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:43 | 4227826 Tijuana Donkey Show
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I watch tons of  LEBENSRAUM porn. I love additional living womb....

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 10:33 | 4228976 zerozulu
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Japan needs some kind of 9/11 but are not very good at it.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 17:55 | 4227390 Sudden Debt
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Japan doesn't have the needed weapons to attack China.
They might start a buildup and to see proof of that, their economy would need to grow about 20%.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:19 | 4227411 Ham-bone
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Com'mon SD - Japan has the worlds largest army/navy/air force @ their disposal...looking for a chance to support their "Japanese" ally from evil Chinese incursion (false flag or otherwise).

Perhaps that's why the Fed are now buying all Treasury issuance (thus no longer need China to buy our debt) and maybe it's time to cancel some of our $1.3 T in Treasury's owned by China???  Time to "help out" China by destroying their massive oversupply of everything (factory, cities, debt, people)???  "Good" for Chinese Keynesians who get to rebuild whole new cities no one ever lived in and won't live in.

Plus since the Chinese lack the means to fight anywhere but their immediate neighborhood, US needs to find a way to instigate locally...and perhaps the Chinese will be glad to comply.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:08 | 4227565 Long-John-Silver
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China got one of their (obsolete) Russian Aircraft Carriers (sort of) operational and think they can take control of the Pacific Ocean with it. What they don't realize is the vulnerability to modern missiles Aircraft Carriers are including our own carriers. Before this happened our Aircraft carriers and it's battle group operated alone. Today you never send a single carrier battle group. You need at least two Aircraft carriers and their Battle groups in order to do what a single carrier battle group did in the past. Aircraft carriers are in the process of being phased out of service in the US Navy for this very reason. In a few more years three battle groups would be required for operations and we know that's not possible. After a one year deployment a carrier and it's battle group will sit in port for repairs and crew training at least two years. The Chinese acquired their four Russian Aircraft carriers in 1985. It's taken them over two decades to get one sea worthy. If a shooting war starts that Chinese carrier with have several gaping holes in it in the time it takes a missile to fly from an SSN to that Target which will be just a few minutes. I can guarantee there are at least two SSN's operating off the Chinese coast right now for the purpose of putting huge holes in all four of their carriers and the battle group that protects it's single functional carrier. The Chinese don't know it but the Russians screwed them by selling them those carriers. The only thing they are good for are Missile Targets.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:44 | 4227833 Tijuana Donkey Show
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If the Chinese haven't backdoored everything in the US Military.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:28 | 4227959 Vendetta
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"Aircraft carriers are in the process of being phased out of service in the US Navy for this very reason"

Brand spanking new aircraft carrier USS Gerald R Ford was christened Nov 12, 2013.



Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:21 | 4228104 nmewn
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Did it get out of dry dock without banging its conning tower?

Kidding ;-)

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:47 | 4228169 OldPhart
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LOL!!  That's good!

Have to be of a certain age to appreciate it, too.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 23:13 | 4228214 Long-John-Silver
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That's the last one that will be built. These last Carriers were contracted to be built during the Reagan Administration. The Enterprise was decommissioned recently and will not be replaced. Phasing them out is going to be slow but it is happening. I expect most will be put in reserve much as the Iowa Class Battleships were put in reserve after WWII and activated occasionally over the years. All will eventually be sent to Museum duty.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:11 | 4227430 CrashisOptimistic
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That's not how war will be fought.

Japan has no domestic oil.  China is consuming far more rapidly than they can extract from their domestic oil.

The war will be simply blowing up a Shanghai-bound tanker and a Tokyo-bound tanker.  Simply that.  The insurance companies won't let any others sail.

Both countries then start to starve.

This is a gloryless form of warfare.  You don't WANT to kill the enemy.  Every additional enemy mouth eats calories.  You want to starve the entire country so you want as many mouths demanding food as possible.  The destruction of food transport from oil absence starves the cities.

No glory.  No won battles, but it is hundreds of times more effective in accomplishing goals.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:42 | 4227503 TheFourthStooge-ing
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An improbable scenario presented here for entertainment purposes only.

Abe surrenders and then disappears. Also disappearing are Abe's powerful allies in the Bank of Japan, the Diet, the Yakuza, and other branches of Japanese politics.

The message left behind for the Chinese reads as follows:

Here you go, it's all yours, the land, the debt, the people, everything. By the way, you might want to do something about your nuclear plant near Fukushima; it's leaking like a sieve and it's about as stable as a one-legged drunk hopping across wet ice. Sayonara, suckers.

Nobody could confirm where Abe and his allies went, but certain rumors would persist for years. Bankers from BOJ were living in Switzerland under assumed names and credentials and working for the BIS. Abe and the rest had secretly bought up huge estates in Paraguay, not too far from where GWB had one, and were living there in seclusion (along with an assload of gold bars they had moved there from Japan).

These rumors were absolutely true, yet could never be confirmed.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:50 | 4227683 Tompooz
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 love that "Yakuza and other..."

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:01 | 4228040 Son of Captain Nemo
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Well said indeed.  To add to that.

I've often thought to myself how the individual(s) both American Corporation's like GE and the Japanese Government didn't consider at one point that putting such a very large nuclear farm on the edge of the largest most strategically shared body of water couldn't be construed potentially as an act of war if there was ever a meltdown that released toxic debris into said "pond"...

After having neglected it for almost 3 years now "deliberately", perhaps that notion wasn't lost on China?

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 07:42 | 4228749 Lore
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All of this seems too "symmetric."  Even the Fukushima story seems pat and incomplete, like there is another side or layer that would change our understanding. Helplessness is a symptom of ignorance, accepted too readily.  Wish government fiefdoms could be more open with a willing audience of good minds. Better information would enhance the quality and usefulness of discussion. This business of pointing military assets at each other merely adds to the cost of bad practices.  What needs to happen is something more along the lines of a (pardon the cliché) Paradigm Shift. Think tanks have probably mapped out the next fifty years along various scenarios, but which ones, and who is stuck in charge?  Does it have to be that way?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:47 | 4227511 logicalman
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Er, I think this is where the US might come into the game.

Whaddaya think?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:23 | 4227613 Pure Evil
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Anything to distract the attention of the sheeple away from the Obamaturdcare fiasco and the petty tin pot dictator residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:23 | 4227614 disabledvet
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there is no way to know this actually. Pray for peace...speculating on Wall Street is one thing...speculating on invasion plans and "counter strikes" ain't where it's at to me.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:08 | 4227733 cossack55
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"Only the dead have seen the end of war"

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:10 | 4227740 rbg81
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Don't underestimate the Japanese.  They were nuked twice and it barely slowed 'em down.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 17:57 | 4227391 I am Jobe
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I am waiting for Jap babes with 3 tits

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 17:57 | 4227400 Sudden Debt
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I'm still waiting for Japanese babes WITH tits...

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:20 | 4227451 TeamDepends
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Bit-tits?  That'll get some whack-jobs around here real excited.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:41 | 4227502 forwardho
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Thank you kind Sir for that eye opening link.

I now begin to understand the full potential of the Internet!

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:51 | 4227515 logicalman
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I only got to see #10!



Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:46 | 4227670 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Ah, ah, Japaneses women boobing up. Somehow that is very..... something.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 19:57 | 4227693 akak
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Behold the eternal booblicitous nature of Japanese 'american' titizenism, keeping abreast of all others by monolizing the mammary means with boomboom vigor.  This is why they call them "Nips".

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 20:21 | 4227768 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Ah, ah, the resonance of that statement extends.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:57 | 4228018 akak
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To US 'american' infinitudelynessism and beyond!

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:21 | 4228102 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Intelligent Fragrant Chicken is trendy and will mend the issue.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:32 | 4228116 akak
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The impertient aroma of your duplicitous US 'american' citizenism speeching blobs-up the crustiest bit of the issue in an offensively vigorous manner such as farming the weak and extorting the poor demands.  With self-indictment is the key to all and the rest of it.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:35 | 4228138 TheFourthStooge-ing
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But if you don't deny the intrinsicate links, how do you kick the can, how do you repell the reality just at hand?

Those thinkers got rid of the past without infirming it.

And that is the halls mark of US 'american' citizenism.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:42 | 4228155 akak
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Made me laugh.

Typical US-Indo-Antarctican-Lemurian 'american' response. The seeking of symmetry leading to the inability to self-ignite. 

The flames of truth being squashed in the birthing, down from.

But hey, when the horse is already out of the barn, they can't hit the broad side of it with a ten-foot pole.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 23:13 | 4228232 TheFourthStooge-ing
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That is exactly that. And one thinks the US buys finite resources like that, the picture comes clear.

Democracy is just a label, a badge attributed by cooption. It recovers nothing else.

But human production is consumption, and it is a human consumption that is high on consumption for the sake of consuming produce productively.

US 'american' citizenish side tracking methodology.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 21:54 | 4228022 Blano
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Well that was a pleasant Sunday night diversion.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 22:12 | 4228074 Big Brother
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Damn- they still look that good in their 30s. 

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 17:58 | 4227401 bentaxle
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Three? Have two fallen off already?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 17:57 | 4227393 user2011
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Soooo... should I long or short JPY ?

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:03 | 4227409 NoDebt
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Long and leveraged.  Same answer, regarless of what investment question you ask.

Sun, 12/08/2013 - 18:23 | 4227459 Ham-bone
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stawks, RE/CRE, you know, paper stuff can't go wrong...but if you consider any commodity or PM an investment...if so long and leveraged is wrong and dead in real stuff.

Digital paper is amazzzzzing.

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