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Treasury "Out" Of GM For $10.5 Billion Loss (Claims 768% ROI)

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The spin does not get any better than this... As they reported they would,


That is a $10.5 Billion loss! But, The Center for Automotive Research, a Michigan nonprofit organization that analyzes auto industry issues, those funds saved or avoided the loss of $105.3 billion in transfer payments and the loss of personal and social insurance tax collections -- or 768% of the net investment.”



And The White House...

Efforts Saved Jobs, Helped Stabilize Economy During Financial Crisis


WASHINGTON – As the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) continues to wind down, the U.S. Department of the Treasury today announced that it has sold all of the remaining shares of General Motors (GM) common stock. 

“The President’s leadership in responding to the financial crisis helped stabilize the auto industry, and prevent another Great Depression. With the final sale of GM stock, this important chapter in our nation’s history is now closed,” said Treasury Secretary Jacob J. Lew.    “The President understood that inaction could have cost the broader economy more than one million jobs, billions in lost personal savings, and significantly reduced economic production. As a result of his efforts, which built on those of the previous Administration, more than 370,000 new auto jobs have been created, and all three U.S. automakers are profitable, competitive, and growing.”

Treasury has recouped a total of $39 billion from the original GM investment.  To date, Treasury has recovered a total of $432.7 billion on all TARP investments - including the sale of Treasury’s shares in AIG - compared to $421.8 billion disbursed. Treasury will continue to wind down the remaining investments in a manner that balances maximizing the taxpayer’s return on investments with the speed of our exit.


Via LA Times,



Additionally, the center said the bailouts and financial restructurings saved about 2.6 million jobs in the U.S. economy in 2009 and $284.4 billion in personal income over 2009 and 2010.


In the report, “The Effect on the U.S. Economy of the Successful Restructuring of General Motors,” researchers Sean McAlinden and Debra Maranger Menk wrote that the value of the bailouts can’t be considered just by what the taxpayers will lose in the sale of GM’s stock.



If you only count the things that make you look good and don’t count the things that make you look bad, any investment will look good and any investment will be profitable,” said Dan Mitchell, senior fellow at the libertarian-leaning Cato Institute.


He said the analysis doesn’t place a value on the adjustments that the auto industry would have been forced to make in the absence of a bailout.


“Those adjustments, more meaningful concessions in labor costs and work rules, would have put the auto industry on a sounder footing,” he said.

We can't wait to hear how much Bill Ackman made or saved on his Herbalife investment...

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Mon, 12/09/2013 - 17:41 | 4230574 JeremyWS
Mon, 12/09/2013 - 17:55 | 4230621 SilverIsKing
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So based on this nonsense, .gov should give Walmart $10,000 for every employee they hire and keep employed for a year.

That would provide a great return on investment.


Mon, 12/09/2013 - 18:02 | 4230640 Cult_of_Reason
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Maybe now they can rest and ease on propping up the stock market?!?

Bernanke/Yellen can taper now.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 18:18 | 4230682 Dick Buttkiss
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The USG is getting out while the getting's good. Otherwise, it would be riding the "recovery" to a handsome profit next year.

Absurd on every level, in other words, while the MSM, doing the bidding of their crony-capitalist advertisers, present it as activist government on behalf of the people.

I'd throw up if I had anything left in my stomach.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 18:39 | 4230734 smlbizman
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jack lew..the donna chang of our time..


Mon, 12/09/2013 - 19:20 | 4230856 Leopold B. Scotch
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Krugman would be pleased.  No alien invasion needed.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 20:07 | 4231026 wee-weed up
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Yep, who needs campaign finance laws...

When you can just raid the public treasury of tax money...

To pay off your union cronies for steering the...

Rank-and-file votes your way.

Way to go, Barry!

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 18:41 | 4230743 Cleve Meater
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So... Question for the peanut gallery because I honestly don't know the answer: Last week Dan Akerson announces that he's doing a press conference at the National Press Club next Monday. This morning the Center for Automotive Research puts out a report saying that the taxpayer bailout saved a gazillion jobs or something like that.

When I saw the Akerson announcement last week, I said to myself... "Self - UST will announce the sale of the remaining shares in GM next week." When I saw the CAR report this morning, I said "Self - it's going to happen today."

So my question: Can a company and its largest shareholder coordinate and time the sale or purchase of shares without running afoul of SEC rules? I mean, I would imagine that for the rest of us hoi polloi that would be a no-no. But, clearly GM knew EXACTLY when UST was going to sell its remaining shares -- they telegraphed it last week with the announcement of the Akerson speech next Monday.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 18:59 | 4230793 Rainman
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See Rattling Bones below

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 02:15 | 4231656 brettd
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The SEC gave them a "waiver".

Just this once.....

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 18:47 | 4230752 akak
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Rumor has it that the USG sold their GM shares mainly just to take the opportunity to invest in bitcoins.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 19:14 | 4230832 Hulk
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plus they can write off $3k a year until the sun burns out...

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 01:46 | 4231627 Homple
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"I can't guzzle as much as I would like to puke."

~Artist Max Lieberman upon watching a NAZI torchlight parade


“Ich kann gar nicht so viel fressen, wie ich kotzen möchte”


Mon, 12/09/2013 - 18:15 | 4230671 Tijuana Donkey Show
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The GOV does give Walmart $10k per person per year in medicaid, welfare, SNAP, tax dodging, Walton trust fund scamming assistance. 

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 20:38 | 4231145 lakecity55
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eerily reminiscent of the old USSR GUM department stores where all the employees were government employees, just like the customers.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 20:31 | 4231117 A Nanny Moose
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Multiplier Efucked


Mon, 12/09/2013 - 22:52 | 4231448 jerry_theking_lawler
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Holy shit, I need to go to my local bank branch and demand a loan against all of my 'potential' gains from a mining a massive PM filled asteroid.....I am the owner and will eventually get to it....I am cerain of it.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 17:43 | 4230585 Mike2756
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Wonder how many jobs my trading losses saved?

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 18:10 | 4230663 OneTinSoldier66
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Answer given below by CounterPartyVice

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 17:48 | 4230589 Rattling Bones
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It's almost as if we have a corrupt and incompetent government.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 17:57 | 4230630 Rainman
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Hopelessness is not a strategy

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 18:33 | 4230715 Henry Chinaski
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Who gained? When O sold off Chrysler the American People lost $5B. The same week Fiat (privately owned car company) declared a one time $5B gain on the purchase of Chrysler...

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 02:18 | 4231658 brettd
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Why would they stop?

Nobody's raising a rukkus....

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 17:47 | 4230592 y3maxx
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Obama Administration will now take all the GM $$$ profits and sink it into a "New Obamacare Web site" for a "Daily Double Parlay".

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 17:50 | 4230605 nbsharma
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hilarious ackman tweet.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 17:51 | 4230615 Derf Scratch
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Lax Jew, perfect faceman for this corruption and theft form the middle class...

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 17:54 | 4230623 Winston Churchill
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They made it back on the volume.

Must be time to go long GM judging by the Obozo investment record.


Mon, 12/09/2013 - 17:55 | 4230624 Non Passaran
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Extremely profitable!
If car loans "created and saved" are counted, this deal was fantastic for the taxpayer.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 17:57 | 4230631 Meat Hammer
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The Feds are so good at proving the unknown.  

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 17:59 | 4230638 ebworthen
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$10.5 Billion loss?

Hell, they could have sent every household $5.2 million and stimulated a whole lot more than inventory stuffing.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 00:30 | 4235039 Abbie Normal
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$10.5 Billion divided by $5.2 million = 2019

So which 2019 households should get that lost bailout money?

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 17:59 | 4230639 CounterPartyVice
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Without the bailout the world wouldn't exist anymore right? So the ROI is x / 0 = infinity, so it's clearly the best invesment ever.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 18:08 | 4230641 yogibear
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LOL, didn't GM pay back all of it's loans years ago? But it must be true because they advertised it.

The wonders of mark to fantasy accounting.

Lew knows the Fed will keep printing. No shortage of cash with the Fed's printing. 

When Lew and Bernanke get together they probably light their cigars with 100's.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 18:11 | 4230664 mt paul
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maybe Bitcoin lighters..

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 18:02 | 4230648 KCMLO
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Just consider that $10 billion loss an "initial investment."  They will have wonderful opportunities in the near future to try their hand at investing in GM all over again, and just think what the savings will be then!  And with these metrics for "success" look out for an 10,000% ROI!

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 18:27 | 4230703 Race Car Driver
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> That is a $10.5 Billion loss!

BFD - the FED shits that out every 3 days, or so. A billion ain't what it used to be.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 18:16 | 4230652 Bryan
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I saved $10M today by not buying a gold-plated yacht!  I'm rich!   I think I'll go not buy a Fifi Island next!  woohoo!  I didn't know this was how it worked!?

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 19:48 | 4230934 Emergency Ward
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You will be taxed by the NWO IRS on your imputed gain!

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 18:15 | 4230669 Colonel Klink
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Nothing like transferring everyone else's wealth for the benefit of others!  When do we run out of other peoples money?


Mon, 12/09/2013 - 20:45 | 4231136 lakecity55
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well, COL, we willl at least get to find out how the Germans felt with a homicidal psychopath in charge of the country.


The latest O'Leechcare news is that you won't be keeping your prescription medicines, either.

Genocide can be sooo simple....

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 01:58 | 4231642 Colonel Klink
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Heil Obama!

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 02:20 | 4231660 brettd
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Only when

Or if...

they stop giving their money to you....

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 18:22 | 4230692 CheapBastard
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Mon, 12/09/2013 - 18:25 | 4230696 Seasmoke
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Because I didn't blow up a nuclear bomb today. I saved or created 1 billion lives.

Saved or created...... Saved or avoided.... Enough is a fucking Enough !!!!!!

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 18:23 | 4230698 juggalo1
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Bailing out GM was a big success for the US govenment.  Kicking the can of GM reorganization out of the 2008 ditch was the greatest success of the Bush / Obama coalition.  I didn't think it would be possible but it is.  Instead of having to pay government benefits to all those unemployed people, we had all those workers paying taxes.  Treasury is perfectly correct to count that as a benefit to the government and the country.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 19:36 | 4230899 Alternative
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Fantastic! Take from my taxes, give it to them and have them pay taxes on that. Sounds at least like a double taxation to me. Even if I would call it theft.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 19:47 | 4230928 Emergency Ward
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"The end is near unless Bush/Obama plunder the sheep to pay goodies to their cronies."  Ha Ha Ha.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 10:39 | 4232273 withglee
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GM made cars. They sold them for less than they cost to make (or didn't sell some they made). But they did sell "some" cars. The marketplace needed those cars. If you close GM, someone else will make the cars that GM used to make. That will take people. GM releases people into that labor pool, and they get hired by the other makers of cars. Some don't get hired. They're not needed to make cars. So what.

Why would anyone think that keeping a dead manufacturer on life support so as to keep its labor getting paid ... why would that be a good strategy.

There's only one good strategy: Make government smaller ... repeat.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 18:23 | 4230701 jeffgroove102
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It is troubling how theft is becoming so rampant in society. These people's hubris knows no boundaries. Is their a reptile test that people can take before entering public office, so we cannot have them in public office. Friggin joke.

They are literally running civilization through a meat grinder, how many times over is jack lew a millionaire, what about herr obama? This has been the most singlehanded re-establishment of royalty in america.

Mon, 12/09/2013 - 18:41 | 4230737 Henry Chinaski
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Trends indicate civilization is mostly rare and fragile. Bitchez!

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