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American "Servants" Make Less Now Than They Did in 1910

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While much has been said about the benefits of Bernanke's wealth effect to the asset-owning "10%", just as much has been said about the ever deteriorating plight of the remaining debt-owning 90%, who are forced to resort to labor to provide for their families, and more specifically how their living condition has deteriorated over not only the past five years, since the start of the Fed's great experiment, but over the past several decades as well. However, in the case of America's "servant" class, Al Jazeera finds that their plight is now worse than it has been at any time over the past century, going back all the way to 1910!

According to Al Jazeera, "at least one class of American workers is having a much harder time today than a decade ago, than during the Great Depression and than a century ago: servants.  The reason for this, surprisingly enough, is outsourcing. Let me explain. Prosperous American families have adopted the same approach to wages for servants as big successful companies, hiring freelance outside contractors for all sorts of functions from child care and handyman chores to gardening and cleaning work to reduce costs. Instead of the live-in servants, who were common in the prosperous households of America before World War II, better off families now outsource the family cook, maid and nanny. It is part of a global problem in developed countries that is getting more attention worldwide than in the U.S."

The reality is that the modern servant is also known as the minimum-wage burger flipper, whose recent weeks have been spent in valiant, if very much futile, strikes in an attempt to increase the minimum wage their are paid. Futile, because recall that in its first "national hiring day" McDonalds hired 62,000 workers.... and turned down 938,000! Such is the sad reality of the unskilled modern day worker at the bottom the labor pyramid.

Unfortunately, we anticipate many more strikes in the future of America's disenfranchised poorest, especially once they realize that their conditions are worse even than compared to live in servants from the turn of the century.

Al Jazeera crunches the numbers:

Consider the family cook. Many family cooks now work at family restaurants and fast food joints. This means that instead of having to meet a weekly payroll, families can hire a cook only as needed.

 

A household cook typically earned $10 a week in 1910, century-old books on the etiquette of hiring servants show. That is $235 per week in today’s money, while the federal minimum wage for 40 hours now comes to $290 a week.

 

At first blush that looks like a real raise of $55 a week, or nearly a 25-percent increase in pay. But in fact, the 2013 minimum wage cook is much worse off than the 1910 cook. Here’s why:

  • The 1910 cook earned tax-free pay, while 2013 cook pays 7.65 percent of his income in Social Security taxes as well as income taxes on more than a third of his pay, assuming full-time work every week of the year. For a single person, that’s about $29 of that $55 raise deducted for taxes.
  • Unless he can walk to work, today’s outsourced family cook must cover commuting costs. A monthly transit pass costs $75 in Los Angeles, $95 in Atlanta and $122 in New York City, so bus fare alone runs $17 to $25 a week, eating up a third to almost half of the seeming increase in pay, making the apparent raise pretty much vanish.
  • The 1910 cook got room and board, while the 2013 cook must provide his own living space and food.

More than half of fast food workers are on some form of welfare, labor economists at the University of California, Berkeley and the University of Illinois reported in October after analyzing government economic statistics.

 

Data on domestic workers is scant because Congress excludes them from both regular data gathering by the Bureau of Labor Statistics and laws giving workers rights to rest periods and collective bargaining.

 

Nevertheless, what we do know is troubling. These days 60 percent of domestic workers spend half of their income just on housing and a fifth run out of food some time each month.

 

A German study found that in New York City domestic workers pay ranges broadly, from an illegal $1.43 to $40 an hour, with a quarter of workers earning less than the legal minimum wage. The U.S. median pay for domestic servants was estimated at $10 an hour.

The conclusion?

We are falling backwards in America, back to the Gilded Age conditions a century and more ago when a few fortunate souls grew fabulously rich while a quarter of families had to take in paying boarders to make ends meet. Only back then, elites gave their servants a better deal.

 

Thorstein Veblen, in his classic 1899 book “The Theory of the Leisure Class,” observed that “the need of vicarious leisure, or conspicuous consumption of service, is a dominant incentive to the keeping of servants.” Nowadays, servants are just as important to elites, except that they are conspicuous in their competition to avoid paying servants decent wages.

But... but... how is that possible if the stock market is at all time highs and the wealth is US households just rose by $1.9 trillion in one short quarter. Oh wait, what they meant is "some" households.

And, of course if all else fails, America's "free" servants, stuck in miserable lives working minimum wage jobs for corporations where the only focus in on shareholder returns and cutting overhead, can volunteer to return to a state of "semi-slavery" (while keeping the iPhones and apps of course, both paid on credit) and become live-in servants for America's financial oligarchy and the like. We hear the numerous apartments of Wall Street's CEOs have quite spacious servants' quarters.

 


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Tue, 12/10/2013 - 13:53 | Link to Comment Shizzmoney
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At least the servants back then got a tuxedo to wear.

The servants now get a t-shirt (made in Mexico).

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 13:54 | Link to Comment ZH Snob
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nevertheless, you gotta serve somebody

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:01 | Link to Comment Gringo Viejo
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He told me he'd pay me what I was worth.
I told him I couldn't work that cheap.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:17 | Link to Comment zaphod
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"nevertheless, you gotta serve somebody"

America was founded by people who didn't accept that.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:31 | Link to Comment darteaus
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Politically - yes; economically - not really:

"...half the European migrants to the 13 colonies were indentured servants..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indentured_servitude

The reason for this was many, many people in Europe had nothing - two-sticks-to-rub-together-nothing.  For them to get passage to America, they signed a contract to be an indentured servant (slave) for a period of time.  Ideally, they would learn a trade during that course of service, but, regardless, they could homestead at the end of term, so at least in America they would have their own land.  Pre-Industrial Revolution productive land is by far the most common means to and form of wealth.

So, America was, by and large, founded by people escaping poverty through voluntary, temporary slavery.

Times were, and still are hard.  Offer this deal to the people in the Central African Republic, South Sudan, Boers of SA, and see how many would take it.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:11 | Link to Comment James-Morrison
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The difference is not so much the wages, but the lack of opportunity. We all go through rough times.

Boarders would stay until they got on their feet, and went out looking for a better life.

Both of my parents did this.

Back then, they were able to find opportunity and move out and up.

Today, it's less being a servant and more like being a slave!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 06:52 | Link to Comment Seer
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"Opportunities" are pretty much gone now that growth is dead.  Yeah, sure, some here and there can recover from a bad start (being born in less-than-silver-spoon conditions), but on the whole things were only elevated because of the growth possible from abundant resources (which are responsible for the bulk of wealth-creation): greater population size, less resources... welcome to the new normal.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 16:35 | Link to Comment Joe A
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There was one problem though: first the new country had to get rid of the old occupants before the new occupants could have their piece of land.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 04:39 | Link to Comment Offthebeach
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No doubt the wheeless, homeless, illiterate slash and burn tribes we met, killed, raped and slaved off the previous Asian, east Eurasian tribes in the Americas.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 06:55 | Link to Comment Seer
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And it's not just any old land... North America is/was loaded with resources, not to mention having lots of good Ag land.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:53 | Link to Comment NuckingFuts
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I could be wrong but I believe due to the italics that he/she was referring to the Dylan song.

"Well, it may be the devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody."

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 06:58 | Link to Comment Seer
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Yup!  Caught that too (and was going to note it, but you beat me to it!).

"Producing" means that you're serving somebody.  And, it usually means serving someone with more available money than yourself.

Sometimes we don't want to see what is there...

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:24 | Link to Comment giggler321
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I got paid what I was worth but the government forgot to turn the printers off and the boss won't keep up with the presses.  It was alright before as I used to flip houses; now it's burgers - still could be worse - right?

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:58 | Link to Comment Boris Alatovkrap
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You are come to Minsk and work with Boris for extraction of subterranean copper ore, yes? (Please bring it thick leather glove and rubber boot.)

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:20 | Link to Comment Pooper Popper
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Boris you need to swing through here.Lots of fat bottomed girls for all!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 07:04 | Link to Comment Seer
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The govt turned on the printers because the "markets" finally puked on running on virtual growth* for so long.

* From GM (and Detroit), to Microsoft, to banks, to Amazon, to Ebay, to Facebook, to Twitter.  Can you see the decay here? (trace it all back to 1971- USD going full-fiat, peak U.S. oil production [shift from net exporter to net importer- bad on the balance sheet!] and "trade relations" with China opening up.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 13:55 | Link to Comment Renewable Life
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........and the rest get EBT cards!

Or like I refer to them, "PDR (please dont riot) cards"

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 13:58 | Link to Comment knukles
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Electronic Breadlines.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:06 | Link to Comment Landrew
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4.50$ a day isn't much bread.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:14 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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Just as much as those receiving it.  One loaf!

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:56 | Link to Comment papaswamp
Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:12 | Link to Comment Boris Alatovkrap
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Why is attractive youthful girl to enter oversize trash receptacle? Maybe is lose earring or contact lens?

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 16:18 | Link to Comment NoTTD
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Is hygenic drunken puking.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:17 | Link to Comment Fredo Corleone
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 Only back then, elites gave their servants a better deal.

Do the contemporary elite truly eat at McDonald's and Chick-Fil-A ? Victorian and Edwardian "House staff" ( to which the above-quotation refers ) must be differentiated from modern fast food waitstaff or "burger-flippers," the counterparts of which, in the Nineteenth and early Twentieth centuries, did not exist. It is a much different world and economy than one century ago. The comparison is nonsequitur. 

"I beg your pardon ? 'Supersize,' sir ?"

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Amesservants.jpg 


Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:25 | Link to Comment Richard III
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Aye, 'tis true. The "fast food industry" so-called, did not exist in any form a century past; if a man sought a meal, he dined properly at a restaurant, or perhaps order a grub steak at the local saloon, which the sole-proprietor of said establishment would fry up in the back room - for a Morgan silver dollar.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 16:02 | Link to Comment WOAR
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Not true. You could buy fast food off of any street corner in the Middle Ages.

Where do you think the song Hot Cross Buns came from? People selling food!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 07:10 | Link to Comment Seer
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Now you've done it, you've pulled out the history-hocus-pocus again! </sarc>

I don't know why we fail to note such things, whether it's due to ignorance, or whether it's yet another example of the sense of "exceptionalism" ("we invented it," though in this case it's not all that flattering [except for Wall Street]).

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 13:58 | Link to Comment Pooper Popper
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Does anyone else wonder what Drawn ,stabbed,smashed ,runover,and drug behind a Rendering truck,used for a urinal cake Baked banker would Taste like????

Im thinking the rendering truck and urinal cake would get some of the bad taste out of your mouth,,,,But!

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:13 | Link to Comment bozzy
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pitchfork the fuckers - every last one (bankers that is)

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:13 | Link to Comment Pooper Popper
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a down vote...I got you j dimon,I knew you trolled here.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 16:29 | Link to Comment Senseless Urina...
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Someone is a bit hot and pissy today . . . free cake for all!

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 13:54 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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Home of the sheep, land of the slave!  Welcome to the new 'Murikuh.

Vote with your wallet or soon you'll have nothing to vote with since the two party system rigged.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:17 | Link to Comment darteaus
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Omerika

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:39 | Link to Comment savedbyfreethought
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Two thirds of US presidents before the Civil War owned slaves and the same can be said about the supreme court judges, America is always a republic built on slavery, what is happening now is just a return to normality.

The only difference  this time is that the dividing line is not race but asset ownership. Soon an illiterate car wash owner will be better off than a person who has nothing but his own life and a doctorate.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:49 | Link to Comment sylviasays
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two thirds? another brainwashed obamatron troll who majored in ethnic studies and believes in revisionist bullshit 

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 20:30 | Link to Comment o2sd
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http://home.nas.com/lopresti/ps.htm

I await your rebuttal.

 

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 17:34 | Link to Comment Escrava Isaura
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savedbyfreethought, you nailed it! You can clearly see it with about 66% of college professors being Adjunction professors. Some of these professors are on food stamp, while working. 

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:38 | Link to Comment Itch
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You said it, the trouble with getting people to vote with their wallet is that they have to be aware of acting with the interest of the population at heart...good luck with that. Its so simple in theory - a wave of intent, consumer based protectionism would do the trick, in no time, in no time at all. I have a bad feeling nothing like that will happen until its way too late, when people become much too entitled, and much too desperate. Then its zombie shit...and with all the fire arms in the US, thank fuck i don't live there.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:50 | Link to Comment forwardho
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Re;  Then its zombie shit...and with all the fire arms in the US, thank fuck i don't live there.

When the U.S. gets the squirts, the rest of the world will get cholera.

It don't matter where you live, the fed is holding the wall of reality up for the whole world. Should the reality of the situation break through... Zombie shit for all.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 16:30 | Link to Comment NoTTD
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I prefer a comparison to Lord of the Flies.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 07:16 | Link to Comment Seer
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"Vote with your wallet or soon you'll have nothing to vote with since the two party system rigged."

Assuming anyone has anything in their wallet left...

Also, I believe that the two-party system was always rigged (that was the intent/design).

And be careful about voting for Wall Street with that precious money...

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 13:53 | Link to Comment knukles
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That's actually a very insightful prism thorough which to view the current state of affairs.
As servants.
At least it's a step above peasantry.

"If you like your cufflinks, you can keep your cufflinks"

 

(whole lotta sarc goin' on)

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:21 | Link to Comment TheGardener
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More than just free board was required for slaves, your investment in human resources would just about match your expenses to keep things that way you were told .

But treating your slaves and human affairs by the book of nature was too much of a hustle once "equality" was a pitch
and to crooked to resist to. Only slaves complained about
master abandoning responsibility.

Stop slavery, we are all the same, let`s all be slaves !

Took some time, but by the time we gave up slavery we were
embracing slavery in retrospect.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 13:52 | Link to Comment WillyGroper
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In other news, finally proof there is a God, and with a sense of humor!

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/ap/crime/apnewsbreak-fla-congressman-l...

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 13:53 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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Couldn't happen to a nicer liar.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:44 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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Ut Oh, look out.  Alan Grayson and his supporters are on a down vote rampage!  Hahaha

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:04 | Link to Comment RSloane
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LMAO! They're fairly screaming "Don't touch our Alan!!".

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:01 | Link to Comment RSloane
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LOL yes there is. I guess his spidey-senses failed him.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:20 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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LOL yes there is. I guess his cockroach-senses failed him.

Fixed it for you.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:29 | Link to Comment RSloane
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Thank you Colonel Klink, that was a great fix.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:40 | Link to Comment g speed
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doesn't take a lot of spidey sense to trade on insider info like all congress critters get to do-its the law don't you know???

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:15 | Link to Comment darteaus
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"It is not the first time Grayson, who represents parts of the Orlando area, has lost tens of millions of dollars in a fraud scheme"

So, he not only sells fairy tales, he buys them too!

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:29 | Link to Comment Diogenes
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Florida motto "If it's too good to be true, we want in on it".

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:43 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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Yeah it was called his ELECTION CAMPAIGN!

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:17 | Link to Comment Diogenes
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That is a great story and a wonderful get rich quick scheme. The scamster could have sold the stocks and pocketed the money and if he had bought some call options he never would have got in trouble.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:22 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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In order to properly rob a bank, you need to own one!

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 13:52 | Link to Comment RSloane
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We 'took in' land borders this year. We installed a dumpster for their bottled water and sandwich refuse. As Laws says go long sharecroppers.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 13:58 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Many have.  At least these servants will eat well, and probably be a bit healthier for it.

same as it ever was.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 07:20 | Link to Comment Seer
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More and more people will be getting dirt under their fingernails.  I'm doing it; and by making the shift early I'm figuring that I'll be the one doing the "hiring" (thouigh I'll still be working my ass off).

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 13:52 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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When you are trying to maintain power and control over resources (which is what this is really about), perception is everything.  Just ask the Fed and it's member banks...

no one really knows who it's owners really are.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 13:56 | Link to Comment knukles
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Yes indeed.
You'd think that more transparent that me grabbing my penis in the dark.

But oh, no.

See, that's how badly we're treated
About the Fed, not my penis

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 13:57 | Link to Comment RSloane
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...so many conflicting visual images now....

/rubs eyes

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 13:53 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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80/20

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 13:57 | Link to Comment texas sandman
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While fast food workers make less, their customers weigh more.....so it all evens out.

 

 

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 13:57 | Link to Comment knukles
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Look out!  Guam's tipping over!

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:28 | Link to Comment Diogenes
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^^ Ha ha ha up vote for the laugh. Survival of the fattest.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:39 | Link to Comment Colonel Klink
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Survival of the fattest....not in Zombieland!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 07:29 | Link to Comment Seer
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Man, seems that it's common among "developed" countries.  Years ago when I was in Germany I noticed that Germans were pretty fat then (at least it was on better food), more so than folks in the U.S..

As a kid growing up (well, some would suggest that that's an oxymoron) I recall obesity being almost as rare as a hen's tooth.

HFCS.  Better living through chemistry...  And now:

Plants versus eggs: Tech startups aim to take chicken out of equation

http://thechronicleherald.ca/business/1172622-plants-versus-eggs-tech-st...

If any of these folks were standing within shooting range of me...

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:00 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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It's not just unskilled labor.

There are millions of intelligent skilled people who have nothing productive to do.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:17 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Hey, ZH is a productive use of my time!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 08:39 | Link to Comment Seer
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I suspect it's as TPTB would like it- keep everyone occupied so that we're not out throwing fire-bombs...

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:05 | Link to Comment texas sandman
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I see this is an article from Al Jazeera.....did they include establishments that serve pork?  Inquiring minds want to know.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:07 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Would you prefer some propoganda from the communist news network or faux news?

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:43 | Link to Comment texas sandman
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Al Jazeera...pork...subtle humor...wasted on the humorless I guess...

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:23 | Link to Comment insanelysane
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I actually like the Al Jazeera news because in their efforts to discredit the US, all they have to do is report the truth.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 16:24 | Link to Comment Tim_
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The US government is terrorism, but Al-Jazeera is not the way.


Al-Jazeera employees resign over the channel’s biased coverage

"Many employees at Al-Jazeera news channel are resigning over the Qatari-based news network's biased coverage of events taking place in the Middle East."

"Al-Jazeera is...accused of blowing the opposition movement in Syria out of proportion and covering up the truth in the country."

"It is also accused of fabricating whole stories about Libya and Syria and even staging its own footage at undisclosed locations. Al-Jazeera is also said to be forcing editors to give the stories a twist to benefit the state of Qatar's political views."

"It is widely believed that the Emir of Qatar has a direct influence on the nature of programs broadcaste in Al-Jazeera."

"Many employees at bureaus across the world including Lebanon have left their jobs over Al-Jazeera's biased stance against the Syrian government and in favor of the Bahraini regime. The latest person to quit was a key managing director."


Al-Jazeera fabricates stories on Syria: former producer

"According to Press TV, Reuters quoted Moussa Ahmed, a former producer for Al-Jazeera's Beirut Bureau, as saying on Wednesday: 'The facts are totally different with the reports in Al Jazeera, extremely different.'"

"Ahmed said the channel concealed many facts, with editors' opinions becoming the so-called facts, adding, 'I'm so sorry that we concealed facts for so long a time.'"

"Ahmed is one of the five Al-Jazeera employees in Lebanon who resigned from the TV station over the channel's biased stand on Syria in the middle of March."

"Al-Jazeera is also accused of blowing the opposition movement in Syria out of proportion and covering up the truth in the country."

"It is widely believed that the Emir of Qatar has a direct influence on the nature of programs broadcast in Al-Jazeera."


New Syrian TV Footage Exposes CNN Falsification and Coordination with Terrorists in Homs

"The footage broadcast on Thursday, which filmed the process of sabotaging an oil transfer pipeline in al-Sulaymanieh region in Homs countryside by armed terrorist groups, revealed that the camera operators were CNN correspondents who entered Syria illegally through the Lebanese borders and seemed to have coordinated with the saboteurs to film a video of the attack and send it to their channel."

"While Damon was reporting live on the CNN that claimed that the Syrian army was behind the attack to deflect suspicion of any coordination, if not to say involvement, with the terrorist saboteurs, the same footage- proved by comparisons highlighted by the Syrian TV, was then screened live from the same camera which seemed to have been set up a day before the attack in a place where the attack can be filmed."

"A similar comparison had previously been made between a report by another CNN correspondent Danny Dayem who claimed that al-Khalidiyeh region in Homs was being bombarded and a footage of Danny showing how he was coordinating sound effects of shooting and shelling with his team to attack to his reporting."

"Faced with criticisms by several U.S. TV channels, newspapers and websites over its correspondent's fabrication, the CNN was forced to conduct an interview with Danny claiming he was an activist and not one of its staff and to obliterate a photo of him taken along with the channel's team of correspondents in Homs."


Iran Has Corroborative Evidence to Prove US Involvement in Arms Smuggling into Syria

"Saudi Arabia and Qatar indicated last week that they are prepared to help the Syrian opposition military forces. Kuwait's parliament passed a nonbinding resolution calling for the government to provide weapons to the rebels and break ties with Damascus, Washington Post reported."


Syrian president: Nation determined to crush terrorists

"The United States and a number of other Western countries including the UK and France and countries such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey have supported measures against the Damascus government."

"Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim Al Thani said on February 27 that the 'international community' should provide arms to the Syrian rebels and that 'Arab countries should take the lead in providing a safe haven for rebels inside Syria.'"

"In addition to the US, Qatar and Turkey, Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal said during a meeting of the so-called 'Friends of Syria' group in Tunisia on February 24 that supplying weapons to Syrian rebels is 'an excellent idea.'"


UK doubles aid to Syria opposition groups

"Mr Hague told his audience, including dozens of foreign ambassadors in London, that the UK will give opposition groups extra help worth £500,000."

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 16:48 | Link to Comment The_Dude
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How is this any different than the water carriers...oops, I meant 4th estate.....oops, meant 'Journalism'... that we get here?

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 18:37 | Link to Comment Tim_
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Psychological projection?

"jews lie, so everyone else must be lying too."

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 20:44 | Link to Comment WillyGroper
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I have friends from Iraq. They abandoned AJ a long time ago, but somehow find NYT credible. 

I think you'll find a bias from whatever outlet you choose your for your info. One must use their head to sort the wheat from the chaff.

Everything is not black & white.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 08:42 | Link to Comment Seer
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Exactly!  Focus on the message rather than the messenger.  It's sad that we even have to reiterate this here...

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 08:40 | Link to Comment Seer
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And just when I was starting to think that you had a mind of your own you toss out this shit?

Really, how different is this kind of talk than the shit that folks engaged in celebrity discussions spout?

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:05 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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When shit hits the fan I hope the "servants" remember the real criminals live in a billion dollar glass condo on the beach in Florida.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:13 | Link to Comment darteaus
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Mob rage has no restraint.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:43 | Link to Comment RSloane
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...and that's what its going to come down to. People will end up tearing apart housing and cars in their own neighborhood, and setting fires to stores whose stock they rely on. After the last food store has been burnt down and the last clothing store has been looted, they will then ask for help and be laughed at. As sure as the sun will rise tomorrow, people are being set up to destroy whatever little property they have.

Rage has to be organized for it to be effective. So far, I don't see that type of organization happening in the US.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 08:50 | Link to Comment Seer
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"Rage has to be organized for it to be effective."

I see the only effectiveness for rage being in providing motivation for positive action.  I prefer to use my "rage" as a support mechanism for why I need to remove myself from the System.  The System breeds on violence, you cannot beat it at its own game; and, really, beat it so that one can then take over the reigns of a violent System?

Talking-heads like to incite rage so that they can benefit from the changes.  ALL still expect to have the System available for their convenience.  The System exists because we continually conjure it up- quit asking it to do things and it will go away (but be sure to be applying your energies into sustainable things for when the big vaccum opens up).

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:26 | Link to Comment El Vaquero
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I'm sure there is some way to say something about those living in glass houses and throwing rocks.  I'm also sure that most of the fucks who would live in such a house have no clue how to produce their own food and have to rely on others when force is needed, and in a SHTF, supply lines break world, that'll be an opportunity to really turn the screws on those fucks. 

 

 

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 08:53 | Link to Comment Seer
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Absolutely correct!

However... I don't think that I'm going to spend my precious energy on "those fucks" in the future.  If they come looking for food from me they'll have to earn it, and, I would queue them at the end of any such food-for-work line.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:50 | Link to Comment Spungo
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It's made of glass because they realized wood is too flammable.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 08:42 | Link to Comment Seer
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See!  More reason to embrace the stone age!

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:07 | Link to Comment tahoe1780
Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:44 | Link to Comment DIgnified
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Fuck HP.  More pandering to the Lefts base. 

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:01 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Yeah sure, because it's all about politics.

There really aren't corporate prisons.

Minimum wage is $15/hour.

The Constitution lives.

Corzine in prison.

Dimon dead.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:10 | Link to Comment paint it red ca...
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Fiscal bondage is cheaper than slavery, as the exploiters well know. Wage payers of today don't face full costs of having to feed, clothe and house the work force as they did in the old south. Plus the state collects it's pound of flesh for the privilege of servitude.

Now if the concept of indentured servitude could be re-instated in the west through say, a debtor's prison parole program?

Think of the possibilities......

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:20 | Link to Comment Mitch Comestein
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Ah, this article is very liberal (reckless) in its comparison of a 1910 servant to a burger flipper.  What there were no restaurant cooks in 1900 or 1910 in which to do a wage comparision?There were no restaurants in 1910....BS.  Why don't we compare a live-in servant of today to one from 1910.  They do exist for the ultra-wealthy as they did in yesteryear.  Then we can compare a burger flipper wages of 2013 to a sandwich maker wages from 1910.

 

I am certain the 1910 guy had more purchasing power, but the author's choice of comparision which provided the basis for the entire article is a load of crap.

 

BTW, there is no way a burger flipper pays 1/3 of wages in taxes.  I don't do that and I make a lot more.  Also, I do taxes so I know something.  Yes, the worker would pay 7.65%, but that may be it.  In the worst of situations the worker (single taxpayer) making $20,000 the worker would pay an additional $1,000 +/- of federal income tax and whatever the state tax was.  So 20,000 x 7.65 = 1530 +1000 = 2530 / 20000 = 12.65% before state tax.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:37 | Link to Comment forwardho
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Re; BTW, there is no way a burger flipper pays 1/3 of wages in taxes.

Not mentioned is that they get 4/3 back in refunds and direct balance transfers.

Article is spurious at best.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:42 | Link to Comment g speed
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why yes thats correct --I forgot the earned income credit thingy from the Regan years.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 08:58 | Link to Comment Seer
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"Not mentioned is that they get 4/3 back in refunds and direct balance transfers."

Yeah, MUCH better off than the "rich," who have to suffer through the expense of paying someone to do their taxes...

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:28 | Link to Comment edifice
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This is correct.  I make over $50k and am a single white guy (aka "Screwed" in tax-land).  Take everything deducted out of my check and it is about 29%.  No way these guys are paying 33%.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 09:03 | Link to Comment Seer
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Yes, you're a rare one indeed!

750 million folks in India live on $0.50/day.  The MAJORITY of humans on the planet live off of $3/day or less.

We're "fortunate" to be born into a wealthy country (big crime syndicate) and then we complain about all the "taxes."  Yeah, I'm not happy paying taxes either, but let's have some perspective here!  Most here ARE in the 1% when put up against the entire world's population, and we're working angles to have even more?

Mark my words, at some point in the future you'll wonder what happened to these "good old days."

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 11:54 | Link to Comment edifice
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I wasn't complaining about the taxes; I was agreeing with a prior post, which outlined a flawed article.  The U.S. can stagger along for another 40-50 years, easily, as a failing superpower.  By the end things will be bad, but not for a while.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:38 | Link to Comment robertocarlos
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If you earn $20,000 in Canada you would pay around $2k in total income taxes depending on deductions for kids, wife, etc. Probably the single person with no deductions pays 2k and family guy pays less.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 16:05 | Link to Comment sylviasays
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What kind of socialists are in Canada who tax lower income folks more than the communists do in the US?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 09:07 | Link to Comment Seer
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"Probably the single person with no deductions pays 2k and family guy pays less."

Probably?  Are we just guessing?

I think that the "mine's bigger than yours" challenge requires one to drop one's drawers.

I have some exposure to Canadian taxes (that's where my wife is from).  And, though it's not drawer-dropping-level of proof, I'm seeming to recall that taxes are a bit higher than you might suggest: and they layered on a national sales taxe a few years ago.

If you're Canadian don't feel too secure about all of this, as when your housing bubble blows it'll really put the strains on things there.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 10:09 | Link to Comment FrankDrakman
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Where'd you pull those figures from? Your butt?

37.5 hrs/week * 12/hr (min wage in Ontario) * 52 weeks = $23,400 annually.

Tax payable (fed and province combined): $2,500

Plus, you seemed to forget: Canada Pension ($1,200) and Unemployment Insurance ($600)

total payroll taxes: $4,300 or 19%.

And, as others have noted, 13% GST on most purchases, plus extra sin taxes on booze/smokes, plus excise tax on gasoline, plus new and expanding 'fees' for every conceivable gov't service.

Single guy, in Toronto, no car, above scenario:

Take home is roughly $720 every two weeks, or $1,440/month. Rent for inexpensive apartment: $800. Cable/internet: $50 Cellphone: $30 Monthly transit pass: $130. That leaves $430/month, or about $15/day to feed, clothe, and sustain yourself. Every six months, you get an 'extra' payday, and that $720 has to pay for any gifts, education, holiday, capital purchases, furniture, etc.

It can be done - I've done it - and I'll admit it was a huge weight off my shoulders that I didn't have to worry about health insurance, unlike my American friends. But when you're budgeting $15/day for everything, even a meal at Mickey D's is a huge discretionary purchase. I've made strides since then, and now I don't live paycheque to paycheque, but it ain't easy being poor, even in the Great White North.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 09:50 | Link to Comment FrankDrakman
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BTW, there is no way a burger flipper pays 1/3 of wages in taxes.

That's not what the article said: (my emphasis added)

"The 1910 cook earned tax-free pay, while 2013 cook pays 7.65 percent of his income in Social Security taxes as well as income taxes on more than a third of his pay, assuming full-time work every week of the year. For a single person, that’s about $29 of that $55 raise deducted for taxes."

Reading comprehension much not?

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:17 | Link to Comment Caviar Emptor
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I have said here many times on ZH that one of the few growth are
Sectors of the New Normal would be traditional servantry! Time and again I have advised readers to reinvent themselves as marketable butlers, maids, stable boys, valets, chauffeurs, stewards and the like! Do it now before the jobs dry up! Looks like thy already are

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 09:13 | Link to Comment Seer
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Employment data has tended to suggest this: most jobs created for the past several years have been lower-level service sector ones.

I would just encourage people to do work that they'd like to do, but to expect to work much harder.  I'm going full masochist- farming...

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:18 | Link to Comment ejmoosa
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A household cook typically earned $10 a week in 1910, century-old books on the etiquette of hiring servants show. That is $235 per week in today’s money, while the federal minimum wage for 40 hours now comes to $290 a week.

 

Well there's your problem.  The group that destroyed the value of the currency.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:16 | Link to Comment joeknows
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We only have the government and the fed to blame for income inequality.  Debasing the currency will never allow poor savers to save their way out of poverty as their dollars are stolen from them faster than they can save them.  Understanding how money printing dollars funnel their way through the economy is clearly an education none of our elected politicians have gotten while attending the country's top universities.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 09:24 | Link to Comment Seer
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Debasing the currency is how "they" increase exports, and exports are what tends to increase wealth: it's more sales and less spending.

"Understanding how money printing dollars funnel their way through the economy is clearly an education none of our elected politicians have gotten while attending the country's top universities."

This is a world-wide issue, not just the U.S..

"poor savers to save their way out of poverty"

The "wealthy" are wealthy not because they sit on piles of money.  No, the "wealthy" (well, conventional wisdom, the silver-spoon gang were recipients of lotto money) APPLY that money to get it to return MORE money.  They also do neat little tricks like fractional-reserve, tricks that you and I (assuming neither "you" or I are bankers) are not allowed to do.

In order to get out of "poverty" someone else must enter into it.  Well, unless there'sl real growth happening, in which case more people can stick their heads above water until the next wave hits.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:20 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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OT but not. Firings happening in my instution of higher learning. I am not in the line of sight, yet, but today has been a bit nerve wracking.

Love that improving economy.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:23 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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That's a good thing.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:37 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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I hear you. Downsizing should have been done in 2008, I said as much then. The measures being taken now are starting to get downright ugly because they did not act then. I have been waiting for this, I am shocked it has taken so long.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 09:36 | Link to Comment Seer
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"I have been waiting for this"

Goodness!  I hope that you've been "anticipating" (preparing for after) it rather than sitting back and waiting!

Thank you for risking life and limb here in admitting your profession!  People need to have a bit more empathy for others, see them as people and not as some member of a scapegoat group...

"I am shocked it has taken so long."

I have this same feeling when contemplating why the housing bubbles in Canada and Australia haven't yet burst.  My "crystal ball" is taking a pounding on this one: wife has relatives in both countries and my warnings tend to fall on deaf ears.

May we all find ourselves engaged in doing good, productive work in the future.  Or, as Scott Nearing said (http://izquotes.com/quote/134300): "Do the best that you can wherever you are, and be kind."

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:08 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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Saving money, prepped, growing food in my yard. Anticipatig is indeed a much better word. 

Think I will spend a little time with Mr. Nearing. 

I was talking about sustainability with my husband last night. We had a good laugh when we realized that, in a sense, nothing is susainable...kind of like the motto of this website, "On a long enough time line..."

Those bubbles will burst. The fallout will be spactacular. It is unsustainable. 

Thanks for your post. I always enjoy yours.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 16:20 | Link to Comment sylviasays
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either you don't have tenure at your institution of higher learning or you're part of the conservative minority subject to firing by the marxist leftists who dominate most institutions of higher learning? 

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 19:40 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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I have tenure. Right now they are unloading the most recently hired, non tenure track, etc.. The thing with tenure in my state is it is contingent on the state's ability to pay. Tenure means nothing if they don't have the income. One would think that would be true anywhere, but common sense does seem to fail to sink in with some. Thus you get all the protests from unions and so forth. Demand a pay raise all you want, protest your lost pension, your lost job. You can't defy math unless you are the Fed or you own an excellent printer!

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 21:15 | Link to Comment WillyGroper
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Sorry to hear that. It's a horrible feeling. I survived 9 of them before I finally said fuckit. The first being the worst. Co-workers quit speaking to the "chosen" as if it were an epidemic. They were the one's levereged to the max. The corp that I worked for danced around seniority successfully. Morale was so bad that even the VERY productive put it in granny gear. By the third we were laughing at the one's that quit speaking to us, their turn rolled around. Pay cuts the whole way down if we managed to keep a job. 

We here know what's happening in slo-mo that's speeding up. You've got your gardening skills & have prepped to be as energy efficient as you can. In my book that's the best insurance you can get & food you grow has the trickle down of good health which is truly your wealth. Best of luck to you. 

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:11 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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Thanks for post and the encouragement. The morale issue is exactly the one I have my eye on. It's gettin' a lil weird up in he-uh! Like Hunter S. Thompson said about weird, I may need to go pro...

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:26 | Link to Comment GubbermintWorker
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Ummmm , that $290 a week only comes out to $15,080/yr. They ain't gonna pay no payroll taxes! Hell, they'll end getting all sorts of free shit army stuff too!

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:38 | Link to Comment GubbermintWorker
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Who in the fuck down arrowed me on that? What did I say that isn't true?

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:31 | Link to Comment NEOSERF
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What I really appreciate is that Obamacare will ensure that they aren't sneezing hep C into my pasta.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:35 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both."
Louis Brandeis, Supreme Court Justice

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 20:17 | Link to Comment Harbanger
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Louis Brandeis?  He like Pres Wilson, was an early leader of the Progressive movement.  Brandeis used the law and his position in the Courts as an instrument for "social" change before social justice became popular.  He must be one of Barry's heroes.  Besides the progressive socialists giving us the FED 100 yrs ago, they're at the root of the dysfunctional amerika we have today.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:47 | Link to Comment lolmao500
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Slavery is not dead, it's called minimum wage.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:19 | Link to Comment Ness.
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There was a time when minimum wage jobs (burger flippers) went to 16 year old pimple faced teens.  Now we have unwed 24 year old mothers with 5 kids trying to raise a family working at Burger King bitching about their "lot" in life.  

 

One's personal choices have consequences (like elections).

 

 

 

 

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:24 | Link to Comment 1stepcloser
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Why howse and feed the slaves, when they can do it for themselves or with Government support..  Plantation owners lessons learned.  

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 16:03 | Link to Comment all-priced-in
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The slave had no choice - the majority of people earning minimum wage have a choice.

I once earned minimum wage - as did many people - that doesn't stop 99% of them from eventually figuring out a way to make themselves worth more.

 

 

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:51 | Link to Comment Stuck on Zero
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Only very corrupt societies result in working conditions where the average worker can produce X but only can afford to purchase X/5. 

 

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:55 | Link to Comment virgilcaine
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Just waiting for the revolt to start...lalalala.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:57 | Link to Comment stiler
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Julien's Restorator

 

I knew by the glow that so rosily shone

Upon Fredirick's cheeks, that he lived on good cheer;

And I said, "If there's steaks to be had in the town,

The man who loves venison should look for them here."

 

T'was two; and the dinners were smoking around,

The cits hastened home at the savery smell,

And so still was the street that I heard not a sound

But the barkeeper ringing the Coffee-House bell.

 

"And here in the cosy Old Club," I exclaimed,

"With steak that was tender, and Fredrick's best wine,

While my platter a spiirit-blaze flamed,

How long could I sit, and how well could I dine!

 

"By the side of my venison a tumbler of beer

Or a bottle of sherry how pleasant to see,

And to know that I dined on the best of the deer,

That never was dearer to any than me!"

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 14:58 | Link to Comment Soph
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Great, ZH is regurgitating the propoganda from the terrorist organizations now (Al Jazeera). Cause, you know, THEY wouldn't need to propogate any anti-western rhetoric, would they?

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:28 | Link to Comment insanelysane
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It isn't propaganda if it's the truth.  Of course the BLS wouldn't lie, just coincidence that each month's revisions are upward and of course if you like your health insurance, you can keep it.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 16:49 | Link to Comment jomama
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lol

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:02 | Link to Comment ILikeBoats
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Note that $10 a week was half an ounce of gold  - worth over $600 in today's fiatcrap.  Or, 13.89 ounces of silver, worth about $291.  And, no taxes, and, free room and board, which at lower pay levels is what, another 50%?  So basically, at a minimum, about $450 per week back then in pay and benefits compared to today, up to $750 a week (depending on whether you use gold or silver as the basis of comparison).

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:52 | Link to Comment 1stepcloser
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and you could go exchange the $10 for real money...and save the gold for your great, great, great grandchildren.    Now $10 FRN can't even buy a lap dance...

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:21 | Link to Comment Loose Caboose
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All of this growing inequality and money siphoning to WS is really just class warfare.  I know that people here, at this site, don't want to hear this but any society that dismisses those struggling at the bottom as parasites is never going to be free of internal strife.

It is not a level playing field.  I do not believe in wealth redistribution out of hand but there has to be something built into the system that assures that the playing field is leveled.  Money buys education and opportunity.  I think it needs to start there.  Education should be just as accessible as health care.  When someone is assured an affordable education and decent health care without going into personal servitude to pay for it, the playing field levels out.  Then someone can just blame themselves if they fall behind and crying victim becomes hollow. 

Until that happens, and it's probable that it won't, there will be a revolt of the masses that will be ugly and disruptive to the whole fabric of the nation.  It will be fueled by blind and ignorant rage that cannot leave anything constructive in its wake.  Capitalism has been contorted into a vampiric sucking thing.  It's crony capitalism.  It has to die to clear the way for either real capitalism or complete anarchy because a government owned by the oligarchs is worse than none at all. 

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 16:12 | Link to Comment sylviasays
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So free education and healthcare for all? Yeah like that works out so well in communist hellholes like Cuba!

Tax Oprah! 

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 17:01 | Link to Comment Loose Caboose
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Yeah, you got a real bad jerk in your knee there - should have that looked at.  I said "affordable" - not FREE.  Typical hyperventilating ignoramus that keeps this whole shit show going.  No one is talking about communism for shit's sake. 

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:25 | Link to Comment RaceToTheBottom
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I think it is very important that this information is provided by Al Jazeera, and not a western agency.

Recognizing the implications of that and you are over halfway to a solution.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:31 | Link to Comment robertocarlos
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The 1910 cook had almost no chance of saving enough money for an iPad.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:47 | Link to Comment 1stepcloser
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in 1910 ipads were feminine hygiene products 

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:44 | Link to Comment Oliver Face
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The article doesn't account for the government subsidies, including EBT, utilities, housing, transportation, Obamaphone, health insurance, child tax credit and the others. If that were taken into account, the economic pictures looks a little different.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:45 | Link to Comment Oliver Face
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The article doesn't account for the government subsidies, including EBT, utilities, housing, transportation, Obamaphone, health insurance, child tax credit and the others. If that were taken into account, the economic pictures looks a little different.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:45 | Link to Comment Oliver Face
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The article doesn't account for the government subsidies, including EBT, utilities, housing, transportation, Obamaphone, health insurance, child tax credit and the others. If that were taken into account, the economic pictures looks a little different.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:53 | Link to Comment all-priced-in
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I am pretty sure that the servant / cook of 1910 had to have a higher skill level VS a burger flipper in todays world.

It would have also been harder (more physically demanding) work.

Considering the current job environment - the other job prospects for a person with no formal education could have also been better back in 1910. 

The economic reality is - the number of positions available for a job (demand) and the number of people with the required skills wanting the position (supply) determine the price that needs to be paid (wage) - it doesn't matter what someone was paid in he past.

 

So it really should not be a surprise that a higher skilled & more physically demanding position that has fewer qualified people available to do it would be paid a higher wage VS a lower skilled & less physically demanding position with many people available to fill it.

 

 

      

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 15:55 | Link to Comment PowerPlayer
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I'll bet the servant class in 1910 didn't have air conditioning, iPhones, XBOX's, or Playstations. You throw in the servant class now has free healthcare, foodstamps, and subsidized transit and I'm not buying for a second that the poorest American today is worse off than the poorest American in 1910.

I agree that the whole thing is screwed up beyond belief at the present time, but I also recognize these people out protesting for a living wage probably have iPhones and XBOX's as well.

The point is that the system is definitely not fair, but Americans have also become extremely spoiled. If Americans don't believe it they should go live in Haiti or the Philippines for a year and see what poverty really looks like.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 09:29 | Link to Comment FrankDrakman
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Gave you an arrow for the Philippines comment.

My ex-wife was from the Philippines, and I visited the islands half a dozen times. When you see people living in cardboard lean-to shacks NEXT TO THE AIRPORT RUNWAY, you realize what 'poverty' really is. The people we consider 'poor' in North America would be living like princes, if not kings, in the Philippines.

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 16:17 | Link to Comment NoTTD
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Well, if you can;t count on Al Jezeera for unbiased reporting, where do you turn?

Tue, 12/10/2013 - 16:24 | Link to Comment kchrisc
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"... since the start of the Fed's great experiment..."

 

Shouldn't that be "...start of the Fed's great theft..."????

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