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Former Hawkish Bank Of Israel Head Rumored To Be Next Fed Vice Chairman

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While Bernanke may be about to leave; none other than his mentor and thesis adviser - former Bank of Israel chief Stanley Fischer is rumored to be in line for a new role:

And so the circle of life is complete. So far, the White House has declined to comment, but we note Fischer has a reputation for beng more hawkish than most - evidenced by his refusal to engage in the kind of dovish activity the rest of the world did while in charge in Israel and is especially downbeat on forward guidance.
Mr. Fischer said making such statements – known as forward guidance – can cause market confusion.You can’t expect the Fed to spell out what it’s going to do,” Mr. Fischer said. “Why? Because it doesn’t know.”
He added: “We don’t know what we’ll be doing a year from now. It’s a mistake to try and get too precise.” Mr. Fischer said he tried, on becoming governor of the Bank of Israel in 2005, to give signals to the market – but quickly gave up as he realized it restricted the bank’s future actions when circumstances changed.
“If you give too much forward guidance you do take away flexibility,” said Mr. Fischer. Part of the problem around giving indications of future actions is they are conditional and nuanced.

Also of note: Fischer was once upon a time considered the "dark horse" candidate to replace Bernanke:

Dark-horse candidates include Stanley Fischer, an American citizen who recently stepped down as governor of the Bank of Israel, and Roger Ferguson, another former Fed vice chairman and now chief executive of TIAA-CREF, a not-for-profit financial-services company.

For now the market seems oblivious that the #2 person at the Fed may be far more hawkish than Larry Summers ever would be.


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Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:20 | 4236797 chunga
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Wow...what a surprise!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:22 | 4236803 TruthInSunshine
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Absolutely no conflict or issue of loyalty here...


Just scrap Yellen and name Mayer Amschel Rothschild's exhumed corpse as Bernanke's replacement and call it a day, FFS.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:24 | 4236824 HulkHogan
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Don't type ANYTHING! This is one of those trick headlines ZH uses to kick people off their site.

I love everyone from Israel.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:27 | 4236851 PrecipiceWatching
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Does ZH deploy the same housekeeping tactic when it comes to the bashing of Catholics? Protestants?


Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:30 | 4236866 TruthInSunshine
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When's the last time the Fed had a Catholic, Methodist, Lutheran, etc. Chairman?

What about the Druids, for that matter?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:35 | 4236875 ZerOhead
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Seems about right... they broke it so now they can go fix it.

And the last time I checked the Federal Reserve notes in my wallet did NOT say "In Jesus We Trust"...

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:34 | 4236893 tmosley
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This is on par with Bibi being Obama's new vice president in terms of bad ideas.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:43 | 4236938 chunga
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Testing. Testing. Testing 1 2 3.

(Just making sure Tyler didn't send me to the penalty box)

Whoever came up with this idea has to be offense intended for regular, decent retards.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:46 | 4236954 Dr. Engali
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"no offense intended for regular, decent retards."


None taken.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:05 | 4237031 Popo
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Sort of hilarious that religion seems to be more significant to people here than the actual important news:  This is an INFLATION HAWK about to become vice chairman.   Hello?   ZH has posted literally 1000's of articles over the past year, wishing desperately for an actual inflation fighter.

And here's the first actual hope for another Volcker, and the thread kicks off with standard Israel bashing.   

He's the polar opposite of Janet Yellen.   Works for me.  



Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:07 | 4237039 Sweet Chicken
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Free Francis Sawyer!!!!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:17 | 4237073 Bay of Pigs
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Popo ignores the fact that there are no hawks at the FED. An inflation fighter? LOL...give me a fucking break.

Bullshit headline too Tyler. Give it a rest.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:20 | 4237088 pods
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Inflation hawks are merely the cleanup crew that comes in to pop bubbles and start the repossession party.

They are all fucking bankers, central bankers at that.


Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:25 | 4237114 Bay of Pigs
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Let me drill down a quarter of an inch for the newbies and junkers here.

Fischer will be Good Cop to Yellen's Bad Cop. Same as it ever was.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 17:51 | 4237684 Occident Mortal
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So the real news here is that Janet Yellen is a patsy.

This is like when Bush announced Cheney and everyone said "Ahhh, now I get it".

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:31 | 4237146 trader1
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Reincarnate Aurora ex Machina!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:30 | 4237147 Joe Davola
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I hope Francis hasn't already had a heart attack after reading this.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:16 | 4237070 Greenskeeper_Carl
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actually, most have been hoping to END THE FED, not have an 'inflation hawk' take over. fucking pointless as long as the intitution exists

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 18:44 | 4237877 Race Car Driver
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> Works for me. 

What does it actually feel like, being a zombie? I mean, we've all seen them in the media, but no one actually askes them what it's like to be a zombie.

Just curious.


Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:06 | 4237037 SafelyGraze
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would have picked a member of the immediate family to do this important job, but unfortunately they all had prior commitments



Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:13 | 4237065 Grande Tetons
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I hope Mel Gibson is taking the news well.  

Freeeeeeeeeedom!! Well....maybe not. 

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:08 | 4237040 RSloane
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Yup, me too, Doc. I am admiring this thread from afar.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:54 | 4236989 putaipan
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ah c'mon guys- don'tchya know he just answers to the 'person of the year' ?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:00 | 4237013 TruthInSunshine
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You know, now that I recall, I think that Volcker was a Druid.

My bad.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:21 | 4237094 chunga
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Just for the sake of diversity over there at the FED, I'd like to see William K. Black get this gig.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 21:09 | 4238308 Antifaschistische
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Obama said at Mandela's party....that, we still had a job to finish.   I think that means more agressive mandatory hiring laws for people who would otherwise be inelligible.

I think the dude that did the sign language job at Mandela's event should be the next Fed chair.  That guy has got to go down as the one of the greatest pranksters ever.  So...why not put him at the Fed.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:01 | 4237024 linniepar
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I am shocked, SHOCKED!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:33 | 4236876 smlbizman
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francis_sawyer.....please, please come back.....please...

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:44 | 4236883 TruthInSunshine
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That's All We Needed...A Druish Princess

*I'm part Jewish by ancestry, btw, since the genetic consideration for who is & is not Jewish is a maternal question, in case it matters - I must be a self-hating Jew...a lonely, self-hating & paper monopoly fiat hating Christmas.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 17:25 | 4237595 Kirk2NCC1701
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Unless I'm very much mistaken, the VAST majority of bloggers here on ZH have NOTHING against "Jews" per se.

They merely object to its secular + expansionist/imperialistic arm:  Ruthless and relentless Zionists.  Which is a relatively new phenomenon in Judaism (since the late 1800s) and seems to have taken over mainstream Judaism in Israel and the US. 

I have Israeli friends who are not Zionist Jews, and whose voices get drowned out by their Neocons (e.g., "Nutty N' Yahoo" and the Likud Party).  They espouse mostly rational, moderate and secular views, with traditions in Mosaic Law.  But they espouse them with the typical passion and zest of their culture, which makes for lively debates (Monty Python class arguments), which I also enjoy.  :-)

[BTW, both they and I contend that Jesus of Nazareth was merely a Fundamentalist who wanted to return Judaism to its Mosaic roots, having deviated from that path by the Sanhedrin, the Pharisees and Sadducees.  And it was his unforgivable move in routing their CBs from the Temple, that sealed his own doom.  All else was mostly smoke & mirrors, as far as the Jewish elite were concerned (having handled other "Messiahs" before).  Which Yeshua probably knew full well, and planned & perpetrated deliberately. But I digress...]

Most 'candid' bloggers here (whether 'civil' or not), have no qualms in pointing out the ambitions and actions of these Zionists -- as often as it needs to be, to get the "full and differentiated truth out".  This is not easy to do, given the power & influence of Zionists.  Many of whom are now also Christian Zionists, who have been fast-tracked into positions of power & influence (e.g. the Bush, Clinton and Obama families).

In closing, as someone once said:  "When you define the Terms of the Debate, and define the Issue of the Debate, you've pretty much won the Debate".  This is ancient wisdom, that goes back thousands of years, but seems lost on most people today.  Even here on ZH, alas.  And it is absolutely ASTOUNDING to what extent these Zionists have effectively defined the Terms, the Issues and won the Debates in the last 100 years or so.  That's why claims and accusations of "antisemitism" are false-flags and red herrings, designed to (a) Deflect and (b) Redirect the Argument into the direction and position of Total Control.  It is high time that ZH bloggers got 'wise' to this, and blogged accordingly. 

The ZH segments of ignorance and obstinacy aside, you can be sure that Zionist agents and shills will not deviate from their relentless Agenda, and keep acting "as expected".  I suggest that the rest of us respond accordingly.

- Kirk out (having violated the Prime Directive once again)

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 18:16 | 4237764 TruthInSunshine
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I have nothing against Jews (or I'd truly be conflicted; even if I wasn't raised as Jewish in terms of orthodoxy/dogma).

I have a LOT OF RESENTMENT towards nations & their policies, be that nation Israel, my native U.S. of A, Iran, China, Britain, etc., etc.

It would seem that deeply captured "sovereign nations" with their deeply captured institutions of "representative government" have neither the motive or incentive to look out for the best interests of their "citizenry" nor further moral, righteous causes, much to my chagrin.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 18:39 | 4237847 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Said TruthInSunshine:

I have nothing against Jews (or I'd truly be conflicted; even if I wasn't raised as Jewish in terms of orthodoxy/dogma).

Yep, nothing wrong with Jews. Like pretty much everyone else, they're just people. From the ones I've met, most of them, like most people, just want to live their lives in peace and be left alone. Also, like pretty much any other group that people can be arranged into, there are some who are pretty cool and there are some who are sociopathic fuckheads.

I have a LOT OF RESENTMENT towards nations & their policies, be that nation Israel, my native U.S. of A, Iran, China, Britain, etc., etc.

Far too many lives have been thrown away for the sake of "country". My opinion is that the nation-state has become obsolete, is a threat to humanity, and should be relegated to the midden heap of history.

It would seem that deeply captured "sovereign nations" with their deeply captured institutions of "representative government" have neither the motive or incentive to look out for the best interests of their "citizenry" nor further moral, righteous causes, much to my chagrin.

While we're stuck living under the decaying remains of the nation-state system, perhaps it might be a good idea for government "representatives" to be citizens only of the nation they're ostensibly working for.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 18:54 | 4237909 TruthInSunshine
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We've gone from "[m]y country 'tis of thee" to "[m]y country piss on me..."

Look how far we've come (fallen).

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 19:42 | 4238028 11b40
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Excellent post, Kirk.

Driving the money changers from the Temple was the fatal flaw.  Now, too, as it ever was.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 09:30 | 4239197 Nigh Eve
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Question:  What do the letters in the abbreviation "CB" represent?  (as in " was His unforgivable move in routing their CBs from the Temple, that sealed His own doom")



Sat, 12/14/2013 - 19:18 | 4247118 11b40
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Central Bankers

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 17:36 | 4237625 Wolfbay
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Volker is Episcopal. More presidents were Episcopal than any other sect. JP Morgan was Episcopal. Must be some kind of conspiracy going on here.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 17:48 | 4237632 Kirk2NCC1701
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That's just his cover.  Like many Americans, he's a "Crypto Mammonian", who secretly worships at the altar of Mammon.  Thought you'd have figured this out by now.  ;-)

Seriously though, Episcopals are known moderates and, unless I'm mistaken, they are the American equivalent of Anglicans (Church of England).  The link/roots that go back to Britain (its blue-bloods and BOE) are probably of greater consequence.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:35 | 4236891 pods
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I think this sums it up:

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."


Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:49 | 4236960 Dr. Engali
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Some times events happen that makes a person go.....hmmmm maybe I need to re-evaluate my thinking.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:57 | 4236999 Herd Redirectio...
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What I esp. like is when I criticize someone's actions, and get called anti-semitic.

Or when I criticize Israel, and then get called anti-semitic.


Wed, 12/11/2013 - 16:41 | 4237415 rustymason
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We are a poor, persecuted minority. And if you say otherwise, we will smash you to dust.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:10 | 4237048 Ignatius
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Tyler, the people have spoken.

Bring on 'The Holocaust' thread.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 19:37 | 4238013 Pseudo Anonym
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hm, @pods

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."

"ABC Media, LTD;", owners of zerohedge,  incorporated in england - i kinda wonder who bought the original zerohedge fight club since so many were banned here recently for pointing out the obvious about members of certain tribe being criminals above the law

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:43 | 4236905 knukles
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He'd be more hawkish than Larry Summers?
How can anyone NOT be more Hawkish that larry, the tool of the street, QE$Evah
No fucking way.
The guy is not dovish enough, he is a good style hard ass in the Volcker mold (well, in that direction in relative terms) and Jewish.

You want Obie's pick (bedsides a snot ball) for Vice Chair, the guy'd be a devout Muslim, Shariah law abider, only securities would be Sukuk....
And would hate gays, women, westerners, non-Muzzies, Jews..whatever...

How could he work with the so called Jewish banking cartel?
Fucker'd ignite the board room with a Zippo, FFS

The only thing Obs wants from the Tribe is their campaign money.
Other than that, he's doing his very best to ensure Israel is wiped off the map, Iran and the rest of the Muzzies are fully armed, conventional and nuke, not to mention chemo-bio, that the Caliphate extends across the ME and N Africa, is expanded, and are in a triumvirate of global power alongside Russia and China, and the the US have no access to foreign oil.
Now, it that ain't as clear as a fucking bell, then you're still indoctrinated.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:00 | 4237015 Herd Redirectio...
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I rank this 'caliphate' as about as threatening as Osama Bin Laden.

Why do you think the Ottoman Empire splintered?  Because Egyptians, Syrians, Saudis, Yemenis, Iranians, Lebanese, Iraqis can't agree on a damn thing, never mind political union.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:18 | 4237086 john39
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Zionists divided the muslim world against itself. Zionists (including western governments, created fake wahhabi islam, which infected much of the sunni ME.  all part of a larger control system.   

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:42 | 4237174 Herd Redirectio...
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Yes, the divide and conquer strategy is used everywhere, and has been for a long time.  Think of how many countries have immigration 'problems'.  Its all in the minds of citizens, though... /s

Hang together, or hang separately, that is my motto.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 16:14 | 4237292 knukles
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Guys guys guys...
I did not suggest that's my plan, design or what I support in any way shpe or form.
I siad that's what it looks like Obie wants.
It's how he's behaving.
Regarldess of your or my opinions.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:58 | 4237201 Uncle Remus
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Sounds you're already at the 19th hole...


Oh, and fuck the zionists.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 18:26 | 4237795 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Ranting and raving about muzzies this and caliphate that is a sure sign that someone's fallen off the wagon.

Please get better, knukles.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 18:28 | 4237810 akak
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They hate us for our free dumbs.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 18:22 | 4237786 TheFourthStooge-ing
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You want Obie's pick (bedsides a snot ball) for Vice Chair, the guy'd be a devout Muslim, Shariah law abider

Fuck Vice Chair, that's who I'd want as Fed fuckin' Chairman. Let's see what Dimon, Blankfein, and the rest of the parasite class do when loans with interest are prohibited.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 18:26 | 4237800 akak
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The ubiquitous duplicity of US 'american' Too Big To Fail Wall Street citizen interestism is ... interesting.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 18:49 | 4237899 TheFourthStooge-ing
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US 'american' Too Big To Fail Wall Street citizen interestism nature is eternal. Expect that what was done in the past is done in the present and will be done in the future.

Discussion on this ground is impossible in this US 'american' Too Big To Fail Wall Street citizen interestism driven world, duplicity is simply too high.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 19:05 | 4237932 akak
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The perfidious infamy of it is very much something.  Very crusty.  Upping the mattering aspect into the farness of not more than it is and then some.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 19:41 | 4238023 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Very crusty.  Upping the mattering aspect into the farness of not more than it is and then some.

This mattering point exists with urgency. Offending olfactoratory is its crusty jack in trade, manifestering symetry of bivalves in rocambole.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 20:30 | 4238161 akak
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When looking for a parangong of throating the mind in the most mundanely eloquescent manner, then hey, can't do better than a US 'american' citizenism citizen.  Works every time. 

US 'american' citizenism citizens will eventually stop consumptionizing the production means. 
When river pigs and algebraic coconuts fly ...

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:14 | 4238474 TheFourthStooge-ing
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US 'american' citizenism citizens will eventually stop consumptionizing the production means. 
When river pigs and algebraic coconuts fly ...

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Algebraic coconuttery current occupations abacusturbation with frequency.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 00:01 | 4238670 akak
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Ananonymystical headspinnings force to the exterior the blobbing-up of the insanitational whirling dervishes handstanding on progrational throatings within matrix of craptastic roadside durianistic scrapegoatery. 

Alas, alas, pi minues a fraction times alas, the kitten in ginger sauce has fled the refrigerator in search of the wokked dog.  The dung hand points the way.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:45 | 4236957 PrecipiceWatching
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So you down voters are good with ZH participating in the biggest protective group double standard in America?

I'm relatively new here, but I thought ZH was better than that.

Looks like I'm going to be tossed.


Bye y'all......



Wed, 12/11/2013 - 16:48 | 4237360 Kirk2NCC1701
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@PrecipeWatching: "Does ZH deploy the same housekeeping tactic when it comes to the bashing of Catholics? Protestants?"

You should know by now that Christian are -- sorry to say -- the "ass end" of social and political jokes.  Because they brought it upon themselves!

People from the other 2 monotheistic religions (Jews, Muslims) have ZERO tolerance for verbal attacks.  In the case of the Jews, your financial life ends.  In the case of Muslims, you biological life ends.

Like I said: The Christians have brought it upon themselves!  Insofar their religious and political/secular leaders have CHOSEN to give away power and have replaced it with UNCONDITIONAL TOLERANCE, which they sell as "LOVE".  PATHETIC! 

Note that I am in NO way pro-Nazi (seeing that the fuckers murdered half my family), but I can SEE the crafty shrewdness of the Nazis in casting aside Christian ideology (based in Judaism) and replacing it with a Teutonic/Nordic ideology -- because it has NO tolerance of mind-games from the monotheistic salesmen.  "We're not buying what you're selling" seems to have been their motto.  Seen from a purely academic perspective.

Another academic perspective might be the Indigenous vs Invasive Species comparisons.  The Invasive ones always establish themselves and thrive due to a weakness or limitation of the Indigenous species, and by exploiting this 'opportunity' toward the logical conclusion/outcome:  Total Domination and Takeover. 

Again... "fault" (a legal or moral term) has little to do with either 'species'.  It is more useful to think in pragmatic real-world terms of "Survive and, if possible**, Thrive!"  Duh!  And that's the TRUE meaning of "Go forth and multiply". 

** Within the realities of Nature (i.e., natural environment, finite space and resources vs. population growth).

The minute ANY belief-system ignores or rejects fundamentals of Natural Selection of the Fittest (Darwinism), that system and its people are "history".  They're fucked.  Figuratively and literally.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:29 | 4236861 pods
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I have zero against anyone because of who they are. 

Take away the banker's power to counterfeit (issue) our currency and I couldn't give a damn about them.

Until that time...............


Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:28 | 4237107 Againstthelie
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The USA and so many other countries HAD honest money. And what happened?

The secret is not the kind of money, the secret is INTEREST and COMPOUND INTEREST.

There were centuries where interest were forbidden by death penalty. It were times of unreached peace and wealth in Europe.

Honest money does not change the fact, that INTEREST itself is the betrayal: more needs to be payed back than what was available when it was lent.

A gold backed currency does only restrict the amount of money that can be created, but it does not solve the problem that compound interest is an exponential function.

It either leads to the accumulation of gold in the hands of the money lenders, or it leads to debt enslavement. The result is the same.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 16:55 | 4237475 dick cheneys ghost
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correct..........and this is what francis_sawyer and Mako were trying to teach us........I would throw trav777 in there as well...

its the Interest!


Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:05 | 4236980 Canadian Dirtlump
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Click here to learn how you can earn money from home saying nice things about nice people! 

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:09 | 4237052 Rafferty
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Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:22 | 4237112 alien-IQ
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Has anyone been booted for speaking badly of Arabs? or Russians? or Mexicans? or Cubans? or Germans? or Venezuelans? or Africans?

just wondering....

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:29 | 4237131 PrecipiceWatching
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Hey I just asked the SAME question and attracted a hailstorm of downvotes. 




See below.


I'm thinking of changing my cologne.....

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:56 | 4237218 HardAssets
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I'd been critical of those who seemed to be jew or israel bashers, (crooks come in all nationalities & religions) but this is ridiculous. Those with conflicting loyalities should not run America.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 17:56 | 4237708 Kirk2NCC1701
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NO foreign nationals (Dual Citizens) should be allowed in any position of high office!  Myself included.

No systemic Fifth Column infiltration should be allowed!

We are so screwed.  Our "Christian" leaders have sold out 100%.  They have become the defacto Familiars to Vampires -- metaphorically speaking.  Or, as LoP would say... Nothing changes till we... Roll out the guillotines, MFers!

And yet young kids keep enlisting in the DOD and LEAs.  And we're supposed to keep "Support our Troops" and "Support our Cops".  What a mind-fuck, what irony!

I swear there are days where I think that it's "Time for a NEW NATIONAL RELIGION.  NOT based in Christianity!"

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:55 | 4237245 Jannn
Wed, 12/11/2013 - 18:14 | 4237756 Kirk2NCC1701
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"War is politics by other means", it is said (by Von Clausewitz, I think)

"Financial Warfare is politics by other means". -Kirk

I'm quite certain that the Objective is the same as it ever was for Neocon Globalists and Zionists:  TOTAL, FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINATION & CONTROL of earth's resources.  This is the true Endgame, the Big Game.  All else is just smoke & mirrors, and games of brinksmanship.

To do this, the USD/Petro-Dollar seeks to maintain its precious GRC (Global Reserve Currency) status at ALL costs.  You topple its GRC status, and "All bets are off".  Its days of Gunboat Diplomacy and its MISC are over.  And the Zionists in the ME are on their own", with no Big Bully to run interference for them or bleed & die for them. 

/ They might actually have to negotiate a Peace with their neighbors.  Like everyone else on the planet.  Imagine! /s

And we'd be building Tractors and Fridges once again, instead of Tanks, Drones and Bombers... Swords into Plowshare.  So to speak.  And we'd actually might be able to take care of our own, do our own Nation Building: Infrastructure, Education, Health.  The American Dream.  Imagine!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:19 | 4236801 Four chan
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its not the jews...nooo.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:18 | 4237057 Againstthelie
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What I find interesting: since 3000 years, all over the world, in all cultures, and explained from their brightest minds and thinkers, things were known very well.

Until the invention of the "free press" began to enlighten the (sheeple) people in the west, that things were totally different and nothing was to see here.

Since then the sheeple even began to believe that asking certain questions about reality was a crime thought and should even be prosecuted and forbidden...

And the sheeple were glad that every good or service exchanging hands was already bearing 30% interest on it. And they were glad to be blessed and well informed while their enlightened leaders proclaimed eternal exponential growth on the limited planet...


Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:22 | 4236811 wisehiney
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Aw hell! Here it comes!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:21 | 4236812 Hopeless for Change
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Just in case there was any doubt...

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:22 | 4236818 pods
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For all you anti-semites out there, I, and VD, want you to know that this is purely coincidence! (had to include him so the MEGAPHONE would be triggered)

Cheesepopes FTMFW!


Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:27 | 4236856 TruthInSunshine
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Francis saw this headline and immediately headed to the nearest pub.

His hands refused to obey his brain in attempting to comment.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:23 | 4236821 Martial
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hmmm.....well at least the title rhymes.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:22 | 4236822 Iam Yue2
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"Prof Fisher believed the United States' economy had entered a new economic paradigm of permanent prosperity. This led him to invest heavily in the sharemarket. One of his most famous pronouncements in mid-1929 was that the US sharemarket had reached a new plateau from which it would continue to rise."

Like father, like son ....

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:26 | 4236827 Aknownymouse
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He will not get in. His quotes about future disclosure sounds way too logical. Not crazy and arrogant enough.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:24 | 4236831 Bangin7GramRocks
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Wow! Does this make the conspiracy crowd happy or sad? Happy that they were right or sad that they now have to find another new conspiracy to rant about at parties? It is amazing that the cabal barely tries to hide the NWO thing anymore. It will be complete when Maria is live from the Bilderburg meetings.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:26 | 4236836 Dr. Engali
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Where is Francis?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:42 | 4236943 NoDebt
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You're not supposed to ask that.  Shhhh.

He's gone.  Just gone.  That's all you need to know.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:48 | 4236968 pods
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Francis Sawyer = unperson


Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:22 | 4238495 Lednbrass
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His name was Francis Sawyer...

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 17:35 | 4237626 Kirk2NCC1701
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Well, assuming that he still reads ZH, there is nothing in preventing him from emailing any one of us, to get "the scoop".  Ditto for Otto S, who left a bit earlier, but on his own terms, I gather.

I've said a number of times that my email is at hush mail, under my Handle.  If it helps.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:26 | 4236846 Bangin7GramRocks
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He is wiping down tables. Later he will clean the shitters and then enjoy his free Big Mac for dinner.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:30 | 4236859 alangreedspank
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Israel had 400%+ inflation in the early 80s. I think he may actually be a hawk. If he's not, then he's just a shithawk as Lahey said.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:29 | 4236863 rwe2late
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Hey, Stanley Fischer wasn't only a Governor of the Bank of Israel.

According to Wikipedia, he was also:
Vice President of  the World Bank
First Deputy Managing Director for IMF
Vice-chairman of CitiGroup

And he was Ben Bernanke's thesis advisor.

He is experienced. What more could we ask?

hmmm ... wait a minute.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:35 | 4236900 TruthInSunshine
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He & Ben are the very tightest of friends.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:03 | 4237023 pods
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Small world ain't it?

Were they both Rhodes scholars too?


Wed, 12/11/2013 - 18:21 | 4237778 Kirk2NCC1701
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Didn't he win or get nominated for a Banking Oscar* - er, I mean, for the Swedish Central Bank Prize in Economics?  Aka "Nobel Prize in Economics"?

* I don't know if it was in a Leading Role or Supporting Role.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:30 | 4236868 yogibear
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So the US Federal Reserve is tied drectly to the bank of Israel?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:31 | 4237152 Herd Redirectio...
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No, its more complex.

Federal Reserve = Rothschild created, owned, operated

Israel = Rothschild created, owned, operated.

There's your connection.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:30 | 4236870 Peak Finance
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Umm, well, uh, NO Israel DOSEN'T control American Foreign Policy, Politics and Fiance, why would you ask??


Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:33 | 4236879 Doubleth1nker
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Why don't we just get it over with and rename the country to The United Jewish States of Israel and start printing money with the star of David on it - I mean then at least we'd be honest with ourselves over who was running the place.  What a joke.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:56 | 4236996 Peter Pan
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You won't find it on the internet anymore because it was taken off but there used to be an article by a Jewish rabi explaining that the star of David was Greek in its origin. In greek the name David starts and ends with a delta. These two deltas are the interlocking triangles we see. This at least was the explanation of this particular rabii.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 18:36 | 4237831 Kirk2NCC1701
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Sounds plausible, as the Greek era goes waaaaaay back:

King David lived 1040-970 BC, according to most sources.  This corresponds to the Hellenic (Greek) "Dark Ages" of 1100-750 BC.

The triangle is an ancient symbol, dating back to the dawn of recorded history.  Putting the regular triangle (masculine) and its inverted counterpart (feminine) predates David, but is not on any official Coat of Arms, to my knowledge.

People and children have been playing with basic geometric shapes (lines, triangles, squares, and circles) for all sorts of reasons -- including political and religious ones.  In that sense... it’s another Symbol of Convenience (Flag of Convenience), around which to gather people willing to fight, bleed & die for the cause of its leaders, their lifestyle and their world-view.   Big whoop!

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 04:09 | 4238938 ILikeBoats
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Acts Chapter 7 verse 43 - the star of Remphan = the six pointed star.  A pagan and occult symbol.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:24 | 4237109 john39
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look closely, the star of david is already there. look above the eagle on the back of the $1.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:35 | 4236890 Tim Knight from...
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Thank God they're finally letting a Jew into the Fed. Give 'em a chance! The government is supposed to be an EOE, after all.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:49 | 4236972 Peter Pan
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Christians have only to blame themselves for having left lending to Jews because of certain religious qualms some centuries ago.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:59 | 4237011 putaipan
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for having let lending happen at all. period. or at least with a freaking jubalee once in a while ....

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:25 | 4237125 john39
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usury- the mortal sin that no longer is a sin... Michael Hoffman. Btw, islam still forbids usury. not hard to figure out why.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:55 | 4237233 Uncle Remus
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There's a fucking clue in there.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 18:49 | 4237883 Kirk2NCC1701
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Indeed!  In the world of Competition (Sports, Entertainment) or Business, the loser usually has a chance to do an Analysis, and come up with a Plan to IMPROVE for the next encounter.  E.g. If, say, Tom Brady "sucks" in a game, chances are he does not blame his wife or his bosses.  No matter what "contributing factors" they may have been.

Funny (strange) how this basic concept has not made it into the world of religion or socio-economics.

"NO FATE BUT THE ONE WE MAKE".  As a society, it's "Time to grow up and grow a pair", MFers!  Our Christian religion has reached its limits in the Modern Era, and our religious leaders have failed us 100%.

Denis Diderot was right:  Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:35 | 4236902 carbonmutant
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I doubt that the Obamacare Administration will approve this...

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:59 | 4236906 PrecipiceWatching
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Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:37 | 4236914 mliu_01
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I am not a jew. But I love the idea to change the name for US as United stated of Israel Or. United states of Jews.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 18:53 | 4237905 Kirk2NCC1701
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So you favor Truth in Advertisement? 

And having the Label correspond to its Active or Key Ingredient(s)?  ;-)

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:42 | 4236933 pragmatic hobo
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is mr fisher a us citizen? if so how did he serve as head of israel central bank? if not how is becoming vice chair of us central bank?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:45 | 4236958 Peter Pan
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If you know who owns all the banks you will also know why he can have both jobs. It's a reality we have to accept even if we don't agree.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:47 | 4237004 TruthInSunshine
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Stanley is a "dual citizen," just like Rahm, Chuck "Get To Work, Mr. Chairman" Schumer, Jumpin' Joe Lieberman, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and all the other cool kids.

Members of the US government with dual-citizenship

It's socially acceptable and also a convenient form of SHTF hedge.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 19:16 | 4237966 Kirk2NCC1701
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By "Dual", you mean US and "post-Balfour-Declaration Zionist"*, right?

* Which is what that state is:  A brainchild or Theodore Herzl** and the Rothschild.  No more, no less.  But funded by the Rothschilds, of course.


Before WW2 he and other Zionists could not convince the Diaspora Jews to emigrate to "Eretz Israel".  During and after WW2, strangely enough, they had no such problems.  Go figure.

Note that Herzl was pro-Monarchy as a form of government.  Looks like we're headed in that direction, with the US and UK Oligarch families and the Old Guard running the show.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 18:57 | 4237924 Kirk2NCC1701
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He not only served a Foreign Power, but also a Foreign Military.  Technically speaking.

Although we've become totally egalitarian when it comes to those who enjoy the US blessing of its MFN (Most Favorite Nation) status like NO other.  Not even the Canucks or Brits enjoy that level of privilege.  But, hey, it's not like we fought with them, or share common language, culture or religion, or anything.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:43 | 4236942 Peter Pan
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He is an American citizen.....but is he an American?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 18:25 | 4237793 machineh
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Presumably Fischer obtained Israeli citizenship in order to head Israel's central bank.

Likely he is a dual citizen of the U.S. and Israel.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:49 | 4236965 _SILENCER
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Wow. A Hebe banker in the upper eschelons of a corrupt looting machine. What're the odds?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:51 | 4236977 halfawake
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who is DJ WHITE HOUSE and is s/he available for birthday parties?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:20 | 4237083 ThirdWorldDude
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Sorry, at the moment DJ WHITE HOUSE is overbooked with performances at weddings and birthday parties  in third world countries like Yemen, Pakistan and Afghanistan. 

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:50 | 4236982 Vin
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Is he a dual-citizen or did Israel choose and American for their central bank?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:59 | 4237016 Dr. Engali
Wed, 12/11/2013 - 18:30 | 4237821 machineh
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Ah, so Fischer is Zambian ... sharing East African origins with Barack Obama Sr's Kenya.

This explains everything! /sarc

p.s. What is that 9-ton pink elephant doing in the corner of the room?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 19:25 | 4237996 Kirk2NCC1701
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So, not Stan Lee, the creator of so many superheros?  ;-)

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 19:50 | 4238049 el Gallinazo
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According to the article, Fischer became an American citizen in 1976 and an Israeli citizen (implied in the article) in 2005 when appointed to the Israeli central bank.


Fischer was appointed Governor of the Bank of Israel in January 2005 by the Israeli cabinet, after being recommended by Prime MinisterAriel Sharon and Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. He took the position on May 1, 2005, replacing David Klein, who ended his term on January 16, 2005. Fischer became an Israeli citizen but did not have to renounce his American citizenship, despite previous concerns that such a step was a prerequisite for the appointment. [4][5][6]

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:56 | 4236994 LetsGetPhysical
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This is not a surprise. There are TONS of Congressmam and women who are dual Israeli citizens. Google it. It's a pretty big list. 

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:14 | 4237064 alien-IQ
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"While Washington claims it has a "good neighbor" policy with Mexico, the
U.S. does not permit Mexicans to hold dual nationality. The US makes
them become either U.S. or Mexican -- you can't be both. But the U.S.,
in its special relationship with Israel, has become very sympathetic to
allowing Israeli-Americans to retain two nationalities and allowing U.S.
citizens not only to hold public office in Israel, but to hold US
government positions as well! No other country holds this special
exception to our laws of citizenship."


Wed, 12/11/2013 - 19:29 | 4237990 Kirk2NCC1701
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It's all there.  No need for hearsay or 3rd hand info.

BTW, "Dual Citizenship" is a misnomer.  Technically, you can have triple citizenship, but just don't go making waves.  E.g. Russian (born), then Israeli (acquired), then US citizenship (naturalized).  "It's all good".  "It's all Kosher", as they say.  :-)

And, technically, it's not "illegal" to travel with the passport of your other citizenship, but it pisses off the Customs & Immigration guys, if they search you.  It complicates their Surveillance of Subjects (domestic) and where they went abroad.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 16:59 | 4237486 realitybiter
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Other than getting all your children shot, there is little risk in someone proposing a legal change here:

New immigration policy:

1)  If you are a "dual citizen" you must give up your US passport and leave using your other (s) passport.

2)  You can apply for American citizenship.  Part of the application will be a scrutiny of your "anti-American activities"  We are going take treason seriously and egregious activities will result in death penalty.

Read Project for new america.  See how many signers were dual Israli US citizens.  Look at W's cabinet.  It is more of a cirlce then a venn diagram. Israel runs the US.  It is disgusting.  But seeing this of course, makes you a jew hater, obviously.

I noticed the starting five on my local pro NBA team is all black.  Does that make racist?

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 05:41 | 4238989 kurt
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A house divided can not stand.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:57 | 4237008 Usura
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The US FED is a branch office

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:37 | 4237168 Peter Pan
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You mean the US is a branch office,

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:04 | 4237026 vulcanraven
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Francis_Sawyer's head just exploded

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:07 | 4237030 Randoom Thought
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Hmmm ... so why would the US have an Israeli as the Fed Vice-Chairman? Maybe because the new chairperson is just a "stuffed blouse" who is pretty much worthless but does not offend too many people ... andsomeone has to do the work. After all, Israel runs the US government anyway... just check who is who within the State Department, Treasury, SEC and CFTC... clearly all run by Israel.

... and why not? Satan first moved his seat of power from Britain to the US ... and now it is in Israel for 10 years. Hey, good luck with that! He was a pain in the ass when he was here.

And why would the Fed NOT know what their next move will be? Most likely because they have ot been told yet what to do by the head fallen angel.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:05 | 4237032 ToNYC
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You get what you bent over for. If that's your fed, he's your man.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:13 | 4237061 YesWeKahn
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Is Isreal a province of USA? why he works for Isreal and can come back work for USA? Can the head of bank of china be elected vice chair of the FED?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 18:34 | 4237834 machineh
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Only if he was born in Zambia! 

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:14 | 4237063 Reptil
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I'm very confused. Former head of the bank of Israël?
Head of the Federal Reserve?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:16 | 4237078 kchrisc
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Zionism über alles.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:24 | 4237120 Jack Burton
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My god! Has it gotten this bad? Explain to me how we are considered anti Jewish if we even question Israel's involvement in running the United States of AMerica? This is treason, plain and simple.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:37 | 4237166 JR
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How much longer do these tyrants even bother switching citizenship back and forth? Those enemies of freedom who laughed at the danger signals for world government can now be identified as what they are, co-conspirators.

Their opposition can now be called what it really is and what you have called it: TREASON.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:42 | 4237185 alien-IQ
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If you want to know who rules you, just find out who you are not allowed to criticize.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:29 | 4237142 JR
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Perhaps it’s more than completing “the circle of Life,” if the tightening of the noose around the world’s financial system is called a circle.

For it turns out Yellen is to be only the pretend frontpiece for the iron-fist internationalist banker network bringing together in one man - Stanley Fischer - the movers of the London School of Economics, the World Bank, IMF, MIT with Larry Summers (Samuelson) and Italian Zionist Franco Modigliani, Washington’s Group of Thirty, the Bilderberg Group, priority relationships with Sharon and Netanyahu, Zionism sympathies, dual citizenship, and identification with Israeli foreign policy.

Where are those critics of conspiracy theory now who scoffed at the charge of Jewish international bankers controlling the world’s finances under an umbrella of world socialism?  Who can we remind that it is the Federal Reserve that controls the currency for the American nation – a blueprint of financial control over America rubber-stamped by the US Congress; and, pray, where can the future of Americans be headed when this entity, in secret, is transferring the wealth of nations into the hands of a non-American banking cartel?

And it is Fischer’s son David who has been vice president of advertising and global operations of the Israeli government’s program to use Facebook as its main platform for Israeli online public relations.

If Netanyahu had attended Founder Beatrice Webb’s socialist London School of Economics he too could actually be sworn in as a deputy in the Federal Reserve System, without giving up his Israeli citizenship.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 16:01 | 4237252 Pseudo Anonym
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jews and hofjuden, the tyrants of finance and usury, are nothing more than a useful tool of the jesuit black pope, the lucifer worshiping psychopath ruling from vatican, the satan's temple.

but, hey, that's just me following the dots.....

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 16:22 | 4237337 pods
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Long ways down the thread before lucifer popped up.

Lemme guess, something we cannot possibly figure out?

Did ya ever think that maybe the moneychangers invented the old black pope/lucifer/shape shifting aliens thing to take your eyes off the 800 lb elephant in the room?


Wed, 12/11/2013 - 16:42 | 4237409 Pseudo Anonym
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the chicken-egg question:

...the moneychangers invented the old black pope/lucifer/sha

the answer: yes.  it's one and the same:  what does vatican want?  the same what the moneychagers want.  global control.  here's the corporate office of vatican:

on 18 November 1302, Boniface issued the bull Unam sanctam. It declared that both spiritual and temporal power were under the pope's jurisdiction, and that kings were subordinate to the power of the Roman pontiff. Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff

if that is not a forward looking, corporate mission statement, then i dont know what is ...


Wed, 12/11/2013 - 19:39 | 4238022 Kirk2NCC1701
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I recall a conversation with a Jesuit priest many years ago, who cited Pope Paul VI, in having said "The Devil is in the Church and his smoke is near the Holy Altar".  He paused and added: "Not AT the altar (the Pope himself), but NEAR the Altar (some of his Cardinals/Princes)".

When I asked him to elaborate, he went beyond the usual "worldly compromises", and cited "...the Church's bondage to the Bankers and their Global Agenda, which is driving the Church in a different direction than is its Divine Mandate".

The Rothschild bankers of Frankfurt, London, Paris, Vienna and Rome infiltrated their into and up the food chain in European Nobility (first Aristocracy, then Royalty) and its Religious Leadership (Catholic AND Protestant).

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:41 | 4237180 The_Dude
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Finally...we get some much needed diversity at the FED Cartel Banking System

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