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New York City Has The Most Homeless Children Since The Great Depression

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Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,

At a time when Wall Street is absolutely swimming in wealth, New York City is experiencing an epidemic of homelessness.  According to the New York Times, the last time there was this many homeless children in New York City was during the days of the Great Depression.  And the number of homeless children in the United States overall recently set a new all-time record

As I mentioned yesterday, there are now 1.2 million public school kids in America that are homeless, and that number has gone up by about 72 percent since the start of the last recession.  As Americans, we like to think of ourselves as "the wealthiest nation on the planet", and yet the number of young kids that don't even have a roof over their heads at night just keeps skyrocketing.  There truly are "two Americas" today, and unfortunately most Americans that live in "good America" don't seem to really care too much about the extreme suffering that is going on in "bad America".  In the end, what kind of price will we all pay for neglecting the most vulnerable members of our society?

If you live in "good America", I very much encourage you to read an excellent piece about homelessness in New York City that was just published in the New York Times.  What some young kids have to go through on a nightly basis should break all of our hearts...

She wakes to the sound of breathing. The smaller children lie tangled beside her, their chests rising and falling under winter coats and wool blankets. A few feet away, their mother and father sleep near the mop bucket they use as a toilet. Two other children share a mattress by the rotting wall where the mice live, opposite the baby, whose crib is warmed by a hair dryer perched on a milk crate.

Could you imagine having your own family live like that?  The name of the little girl in the story is Dasani, and every night her family sleeps in a city-run homeless shelter that sounds like it is straight out of a horror movie...

Her family lives in the Auburn Family Residence, a decrepit city-run shelter for the homeless. It is a place where mold creeps up walls and roaches swarm, where feces and vomit plug communal toilets, where sexual predators have roamed and small children stand guard for their single mothers outside filthy showers.


It is no place for children. Yet Dasani is among 280 children at the shelter. Beyond its walls, she belongs to a vast and invisible tribe of more than 22,000 homeless children in New York, the highest number since the Great Depression, in the most unequal metropolis in America.

You can read the rest of that excellent article right here.  Sadly, there are countless other children just like Dasani that live like this day after day, month after month, year after year.

Shouldn't we be able to do better than this as a society?  After all, the stock market has been hovering near record highs lately, and Wall Street is absolutely drenched with wealth for the moment.

With so much wealth floating around, why are New York City subways being "overrun with homeless" right now?

Something has gone horribly wrong.

I think that a recent editorial by David Simon, the creator of the Wire, summarized things pretty well.  We are not "one America" anymore, and most of the people that live in "good America" don't really care much about those living in "bad America"...

America is a country that is now utterly divided when it comes to its society, its economy, its politics. There are definitely two Americas. I live in one, on one block in Baltimore that is part of the viable America, the America that is connected to its own economy, where there is a plausible future for the people born into it. About 20 blocks away is another America entirely. It's astonishing how little we have to do with each other, and yet we are living in such proximity.


There's no barbed wire around West Baltimore or around East Baltimore, around Pimlico, the areas in my city that have been utterly divorced from the American experience that I know. But there might as well be.

Once upon a time, things were different in America.  Nobody resented businessmen for building strong businesses and making lots of money.  And successful businessmen such as Henry Ford hired large numbers of American workers and paid them very well.  He felt that his workers should make enough money to buy the cars that they were building.  In those days, businessmen were loyal to their workers and workers were loyal to those that employed them.

Unfortunately, those days are long gone.  Today, in business schools all over America students are taught that the sole purpose of a corporation is to make as much money as possible for the stockholders.  Not that there is anything wrong with making money.  But at this point we have elevated greed above all other economic goals.  Taking care of one another isn't even a consideration anymore.

In the old days, big businesses actually needed our labor.  But that is now no longer the case.  Today, corporations are shipping millions of our jobs overseas and they are replacing as many of us with technology as they possibly can.  The value of the labor of the working man is declining with each passing day.

As a result, the fortunes of big business and American workers are increasingly diverging.  For example, the disconnect between employment levels and stock prices has never been greater in this country.  If you doubt this, just check out this chart.

And instead of fixing things, Barack Obama is negotiating a secret treaty which will result in millions more American jobs being shipped overseas.  The following is a brief excerpt about this secret treaty from an Australian news source...

The government has refused the Senate access to the secret text of the trade deal it is negotiating in Singapore, saying it will only be made public after it has been signed.


As the final round of ministerial talks on the Trans-Pacific Partnership resumed on Sunday, Nobel prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz wrote to each of the 12 participating nations warning that the deal and the secrecy surrounding it presented ''grave risks''.

So why aren't we hearing much about this secret treaty from U.S. news sources?

If this is going to affect millions of American jobs, shouldn't the mainstream media be making a big deal out of this?

And even if we weren't losing millions of jobs to the other side of the planet, we would still be losing millions of jobs to advancements in technology.  In fact, a CNBC article that was posted earlier this week seems to look forward to the day when nobody will have to worry about the low pay that fast food workers get anymore because they will all be replaced by droids...

Maybe so, but as fast food workers protest low wages and the president of the United States equates hard work with the right to decent pay, the rise of technology once again proves to be no stunt, or laughing matter. McDonald's, where food production is already about as mechanized as food science allows, stopped updating the famous number "served" figure at its restaurants back in 1994—just short of 100 billion—but how long will it be before trillions are served their burgers and fries by a drone, after being cooked by a droid? Those machines work for cheap, and the best thing is, they have no concept of hard work, or dignity, or the foresight to consider whether or not the "cool" things they can do ultimately contribute, or detract, from a strong, consumer-dependent economy.

So what is the solution to all of this?

Where will the millions of desperately needed jobs for "bad America" come from?

Well, it appears that good ideas are in short supply these days.  In fact, some of the ideas being promoted by our "leaders" are absolutely insane.  For example, one prominent entrepreneur recently suggested that the solution to our employment crisis is for Congress to pass an immigration bill which would bring in 30 million more low-skilled workers over the next ten years...

Middle class Americans face a tough future because robots and machinery are eliminating their jobs, according to Steve Case, an entrepreneur who earned roughly $1 billion by creating the first successful internet firm, America Online.


But Congress could help the situation by passing an immigration bill that would import some foreign entrepreneurs and almost 30 million low-skilled workers over the next decade, Case told an audience of D.C. lobbyists and lawyers gathered on Tuesday by the business-backed Bipartisan Policy Center.

Exactly how would this improve the employment situation in this country?

I still cannot figure that one out.

But there are people out there that actually believe this stuff.

Meanwhile, many parts of Europe are suffering through similar things.

The unemployment rate in the eurozone recently hit a new all-time high, and the number of people living in poverty in Europe just continues to grow...

Over 124 million people in the European Union – or almost a quarter of its entire population - live under the threat of poverty or social exclusion, a report by EU’s statistical office has revealed.


Last year, 124.5 million people, or 24.8 percent of Europe’s population were at risk of poverty or social exclusion, compared to 24.3 percent in 2011 and 23.7 percent in 2008, the Eurostat said in a document published earlier in the week.

So what is going to fix this?

Where are the good jobs for workers in North America and Europe going to come from in the years ahead?


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Wed, 12/11/2013 - 21:53 | 4238411 fonzannoon
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This is why Diblasio got elected. He is going to spread the wealth and then it will be all good. Detroit good.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:33 | 4238529 Pooper Popper
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That many children suffering is really Fucked up.....


and the markets keep rising,fucking banksters!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 23:00 | 4238578 Beam Me Up Scotty
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Where's that old piece of shit Warren Buffet? He's about to kick the can soon. Think of how many kids he could shelter. Instead he wants to dodge his taxes and foist higher taxes on the rest of us.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 00:10 | 4238712 BKbroiler
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DiBlasio means well but he's dangerous.  Without the tax base (the employed) this city is f'd.  Bloomberg is no saint but he knows that much.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 02:10 | 4238864 TruthInSunshine
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I just want to thank Senator Chuck "Get To Work, Mr. Chairman" Schumer (D-NY) & the Chairman himself, Ben Sikorsky Bernanke, for their fantastic public service that's now led to Obamavilles with a record number of homeless, hungry children, surpassing te Hoovervilles of the Great Depression.

Ask not what your country can do for "flyover states" USA, ask what the citizens of "flyover states" USA can do for banksters, Wall Street, K Street & the unionized government worker complex that now employs 23 million desk jockeys at the federal, state & local levels of government.

We certainly live in interesting times with very little Hope & even less spare Change.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 08:56 | 4239122 fxrxexexdxoxmx
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You would have thought a Republican had been elected since we are talking about homeless people. 

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 03:58 | 4238928 Lost My Shorts
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Maybe it's more complicated than you realize.

Relentless gentrification pushes the middle class to the slums and the slum dwellers to the streets.  Sure, you have more employed, but also more need.  The cost of housing ratchets up city worker wage demands which ratchets up taxes which increases dependence on the financial class to pay for the whole crazy system.  But maybe there is an alternative, to run the process in reverse and de-gentrify:  get rid of some of the financial class, along with the Chinese investors and real estate speculators; bring down the cost of housing; ease city employee wage demands; make it easier for the poor to take care of themselves so they get off the city's tab.  Of course the financial elites and Chinese noveau riche will bitch about that, and probably you too, but NYC is a democracy and it's not hard to imagine that a majority of residents want their city back.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 07:59 | 4239063 mvsjcl
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Thu, 12/12/2013 - 08:39 | 4239104 Bangin7GramRocks
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So we should keep paying criminals millions because they pay a tithe back to the city? How about we arrest the bankers and use the "invented" billions to feed and shelter the homeless children. Don't get it twisted .1%ers, all of your money has been invented by the FED. We would all be reading by candlelight if the economy were to realize its natural place without the fake trillions.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 01:05 | 4238813 stacking12321
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broke homeless people popping out babies non stop that they can't take care of is what's really fucked up

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 15:43 | 4240657 de3de8
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Exactly right ,stacking

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 23:10 | 4238596 Millivanilli
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Wealth affect, bitchez.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 01:43 | 4238844 BillyTheBlade
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The most homeless children in his back yard and Bloomberg was targeting soda sizes, styrofoam cups, and guns, to no doubt, "save the children"... priorities of the left.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 04:08 | 4238934 Serenity Now
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Yep, that's how the Left rolls.  They TALK about doing good, but they don't actually DO good.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 12:50 | 4239920 Bananamerican
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yea, bring back Bush, cuz, I cant quite recall how the "Right" rolls....

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 06:24 | 4242790 Serenity Now
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Don't you guys ever get embarrassed at this lame excuse?  Ever?  Do you have any shame at all at what the Left is doing to damage the country?  You should.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 15:47 | 4240669 de3de8
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Except for themselves

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 09:22 | 4239172 RSloane
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I read the NYT piece on Dasani, the little girl who was the subject of the article. Her father has been in and out of prision for selling and using drugs, and her mother has been in and out of rehab as a cocaine addict. They have eight children, the youngest is just a baby. Why eight children? How many social programs would it take to put this family back on their feet, and how long would they stay there? I feel so very sorry for those kids.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 21:52 | 4238412 kaiserhoff
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Who would inflict New York City on a child?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 23:12 | 4238566 IridiumRebel
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I moved for that specific reason. I didn't want my kid learning Spanish curse words and feeling bad for not being the first one in 5th grade to fuck. I loved NYC when I was single, but the cost and all thats entailed to live there is just too much. Prices doubled from 2006 to 2013 on much stuff. Metro was 1.50 when I got there and 2.75 when I left. Gas was 1.99 and then 4.25 and on and on. Homeless are all over there. Poverty is rampant yet glossed over as to not ruin the image. Those poor kids deserve better.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 21:54 | 4238418 alien-IQ
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I think that's what Wall Street calls "winning".

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 23:17 | 4238611 Yenbot
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HRH Prince Charles has an answer for us. He's sponsoring tiny houses built from recycled American pallets. Now, if only it wasn't illegal to build them in most of the United States... Royalty Always Has An Answer.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:04 | 4239480 RKDS
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Trickle down works, I tell you, we just need to give it another thirty years...

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:00 | 4238431 ShortTheUS
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deBlasio has already explicitly proposed tax hike and implicitly promised crime hike! But fear not, he will restore equality with his union- and public employee-friendly wage proposals and social programs to help the poor.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:01 | 4238436 vmromk
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Death to the MOTHERFUCKING Federal Reserve.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:29 | 4238516 kalum
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Hear ye. Hear ye. Bernanke. May he RIH

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:04 | 4238451 tahoe1780
Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:25 | 4238500 mess nonster
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Homelessness- what barbed-wire-inwards FEMA camps are for.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:06 | 4238454 Colonel Klink
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Everyone feel free to thank a Central banker, hedge fund market makers, large TBTF banks, corrupt politicians, lobbyists, and fraud Street!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:07 | 4238455 Charles Wilson
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"There truly are "two Americas" today..."

So said John Edwards and he was correct. There was the America he saw from the front porch of the mansion he had in the North and the America he saw from the front porch of the mansion he had in the South.

"What's the Problem?"

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:07 | 4238462 Colonel Klink
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Disingenuous people like John Edwards?

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 08:58 | 4239125 TBT or not TBT
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Lawyers like John Edwards.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 00:56 | 4238793 Anusocracy
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Voters who think they know what's best for everyone else.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:08 | 4238461 nmewn
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(Drum roll please)

And the tax rate for the working denizens of NYC is?

Oh well, just hire some short, statist freak-of-nature to ban salt, sugar and fat from homeless shelter diets, that'll fix it fer sur.


Bloomberg Strikes Again: NYC Bans Food Donations To The Homeless

I'm not feelin compassion, no guilt...don't chose it.


Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:16 | 4238466 Colonel Klink
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+666 Bloomberg is #winning!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:23 | 4238502 NemoDeNovo
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For those that 'doubt' the Gulliotines are eventually going to come out, think again.  At this point there is NO pleasant solution to the world we live in.

Whether we like it or not Violence Solves Problems...and we live in a violent universe maybe its time we learn to harmonize with it??  Just my 2c 


~ De Opresso Liber 

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 23:20 | 4238615 Colonel Klink
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They say violence isn't a solution but it sure seems to be for the elite.  It also seems to be the only thing they understand and/or respond to in order to change.  Even if that means the ants erradicate the grasshoppers.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 23:34 | 4238647 NemoDeNovo
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We have to learn the differece between Violence and Agression, that is where the 'rub' is in my opinion.  Cutting down a stalk of broccoli is a 'violent act' but not necc an act of agression.....

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 00:44 | 4238773 Colonel Klink
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So killing all the oppressors of society, is that violence or aggression?  I'm confused.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 01:03 | 4238803 Anusocracy
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Government has been the aggressor for thousands of years and it can't change because it would cease to exist.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 03:13 | 4238907 Freddie
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But Congress could help the situation by passing an immigration bill that would import some foreign entrepreneurs and almost 30 million low-skilled workers over the next decade, Case told an audience of D.C. lobbyists and lawyers gathered on Tuesday by the business-backed Bipartisan Policy Center.

This tells me there is no other means now.  They rig the one-party elections and they are not listening to us anymore.   This is pretty much the last straw.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:11 | 4238468 fonzannoon
Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:51 | 4238557 nmewn
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The guy is a full blown eugenic-fascist-egomaniac and anyone with a functioning brain cell left could see it. I've had to harden my heart on everything relative to NYC.

Only NYC can fix it and it appears that the majority of the city are craven rats & the minority are hopeless victims of them.

Just callin it like I see it fonz.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 23:01 | 4238580 fonzannoon
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I am no NYC defender. I avoid it like the plague. I was in there about a week ago. 1 out of every four people I passed just looked and acted like an alien. It was horrifyingly fascinating. They are not fixing anything. 

Thank god I am a half hour away and therefore completely immune to any reprecussions should things go to shit.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 23:18 | 4238614 nmewn
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I know you don't defend it and extricated yourself from it.

But really the only way is to starve it, its "life blood" comes from the nation now. If it wasn't for Wall Street and fantasy taxation of nothing but debt issuance, it would be Detroit, just with taller decaying buildings when you think about it.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 23:30 | 4238640 kito
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Haha fonz. Not sure if anyone got that last part. You know, long island being a safe haven :)

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 01:11 | 4238820 Clowns on Acid
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1 out of 4 probably are illegal aliens.... sounds about right. Every restaurant, even those with fancy sounding French names, have Mexican chefs (a few Equadorean), Mexican workers, dishwashers etc....

Without illegals, restaurants in NYC would have to raise their prices (or shrink their portions) by 30%. BUt then again, maybe some if the "homeless" would be able to get jobs.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:24 | 4238492 quasimodo
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I posted something earlier that would make even the devil blush about Mikey. yes I deleted it, yes I still feel the same way about him but it serves no purpose to bash this pathetic excuse for a human being(if he has a heart at all) and I really do feel sorry for him on a certain level. Not gonna stoop to his level until some of us actually get the balls to call this midget out in public.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 04:09 | 4238937 the0ther
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Must know how. Please repost!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:43 | 4238547 Whoa Dammit
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If there is a hell, I hope Bloomberg  spends eternity sitting at at table, hungry, while endless plates of food are set in front of him, only to be snatched away before he takes a single bite, because its nutritional value cannot be properly assessed.

And if any NYC waiters have any balls, they will refuse to serve Bloomberg now at restaurants because his order may not have the proper level of fats, sugar or salt.



Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:15 | 4238478 hairball48
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Steve Case has a point. The education system in the USA can't produce enoughpeople with marketable skills.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:15 | 4238481 overexposed
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Sigh.  Nothing's worse than Dramaccountants.

Population of the United States ca 1933: roughly 130 million
Population of the untied States in 2013: 315 million, give or take

"Homeless children" ca 1933: 250,000 (0.001%)
"Homeless children" ca 2013: 1.2 mil (0.003%).


Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:19 | 4238487 Colonel Klink
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By my math that's 3 times the amount from 1933.  Sounds like a problem to me.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:25 | 4238498 overexposed
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Sure, and we can start to fix it by dismantling this regulatory nightmare state we live in so they can all just go out and get a job.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 23:20 | 4238618 Colonel Klink
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Whatever PAL.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 03:49 | 4238922 TheGermanGuy
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According to your numbers 2013: 0.38 %, 1933: 0,2 %


Innumeracy can be a bitch.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:31 | 4238518 GuyJeans
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So what percentage would be unacceptable for you?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:36 | 4238531 overexposed
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Let's start at 1%.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 23:22 | 4238620 Colonel Klink
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I completely agree!  The 1% are the problem and we need a final solution.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:32 | 4238520 mess nonster
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One homeless kid is too many.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:38 | 4238536 overexposed
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If I wanted an emotional argument, I would've called Sally Struthers.  People make their own choices in life - Staying in a ridiculously expensive area versus moving to an inexpensive rural community would be one of those that tends to lead to homelessness.  Being all teary-eyed about it doesn't do anything to help anyone in the situation, and it certainly doesn't encourage people to, I don't know, MAKE WISER DECISIONS.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:58 | 4238573 alien-IQ
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You must be a real hoot at parties.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 23:06 | 4238587 Quus Ant
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Every time a homeless vet asks me for spare change I guffaw and tell him to make wiser decisions and dammit, without fail he's always right there in the same gutter the next time I see him.  I sometimes wonder why I even bother. 

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 23:10 | 4238602 fonzannoon
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It's true he needs to make better decisions. If I were him and you said that the next time I saw you I would just mug you and beat the shit out of you and thank you for the advice while you are laying there face down in the cold street.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 23:21 | 4238609 Quus Ant
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He'd be far too malnourished and weather-worn to put up much of a fight.  

That would be a...... bad decision. 



and how could you take my comment seriously?  Did I really need to /sarc?

good to know people still care about vets I guess.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 23:26 | 4238626 fonzannoon
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Wed, 12/11/2013 - 23:34 | 4238646 Quus Ant
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No worries.  In the context of the comment I was responding to I thought it would be clear, but apparently not. 

se la vie.

We now return to our regularly scheduled program......... 


Wed, 12/11/2013 - 23:25 | 4238630 fonzannoon
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I don't give much of a shit about pulling rank on this place but you are here 16 weeks so no, I did not see any sarc there based on a long past. I have seen some weird comments come out of people on here that are new lately. If you were being sarcastic, then my apologies. Being a sarcastic asshole myself I can usually spot it. 

and yes I have a soft spot for vets, not only that but I believe they may be our last hope.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 23:41 | 4238661 Quus Ant
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That would be Obi Wan Kenobi.



Thu, 12/12/2013 - 00:32 | 4238758 white_guy
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wow your math is horrendously wrong.  1.2 mil divided by 315 mil is 0.0038 which is actually 0.38%.  sorry, two orders of magnitude is not negligible

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 00:46 | 4238776 NickVegas
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A bellweather statistic. 3x is significant. What does it mean? I need chart pron, now.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:17 | 4238482 booboo
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Steve Case is a classless douche bag globalist high on the blue team food chain and no doubt pushing for 30 million immigrants to flood into the country. So if you thought borders, culture, and language was all bullshit and whooping it up for more "undocumented workers" 10 years ago I would wager you and a lot of unemployed folks right now re-thinking that position about right now. 

Now think about this statement form the story and consider the skim fat assed government workers and political hacks are taking off the top of the money shooting out of DC at an epic rate and you will know why there are so many homeless in america today and its not for a lack of conjured up money.

"a decrepit city-run shelter for the homeless"

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:19 | 4238484 lcs
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Since the overall population is constantly increasing it stands to reason that eventually the number of homeless children in NYC will reach the level of the Great Depression.  How about using a ratio (this is what is called dividing one number by another, for NYT readers).

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:26 | 4238504 overexposed
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See my comment above, did "exactly" that.  Liberals can't be bothered with math.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 14:02 | 4240283 fallout11
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Even if the ratio were still 1:1 with 1930 (it is not), that would still be appaling. One would assume we had made at least some progress in the past 80+ years.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:22 | 4238496 Spontaneous Order
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What's with these articles that start talking about important issues, but then veer off into illogical territory? It's a very important issue: the rise of homelessness and inequality in urban areas. Democrat controlled cities like NYC and LA have been on the decline for decades, as the buildup of regulations and absurd economic policies (e.g. rent control, high minimum wage, union power/limited school choice, zoning laws, high taxes) has driven away the middle class, while the upper classes can either have favorable policies enacted or cushion the blow of the higher costs. The reason why the divide occurs in these cities is that the poor can't afford the artificially inflated housing, general costs of living, or find a job.


But instead of pointing to the obvious, this article tries to assert that technology and immigration are the evils we should focus on--or that this is a more universal phenomenon. Any person with a rudimentary knowledge of the economy, free markets, or economics knows that technology improves the condition of the vast majority (in the short run) and everyone (in the long run) and the same goes for immigrants (whether they are from a few miles away, or from a different country). Why don't we just ditch these 18th century mercantilist fallacies so we can actually address these serious issues, mmkay?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:24 | 4238503 overexposed
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+1+1+1, you've got a great take on this!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:24 | 4238506 Being Free
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If you like your cardboard box you can keep your cardboard box.  Period.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 23:36 | 4238654 RaceToTheBottom
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Technology will build a better cardboard box

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 02:19 | 4238875 squexx
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Exceptional cardboard for an exceptional nation!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:26 | 4238509 kalum
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It is incredible to me that these people leep breeding, bringing more children into this misery

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:29 | 4238517 overexposed
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Makes you wonder if Mike Judge wasn't on to something with Idiocracy. (Though the alternate solution, Eugenics, is not exactly something we should strive for, either.)

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 09:09 | 4239140 TBT or not TBT
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Eugenics, it's how Planned Parenthood got rolling. Margaret Sanger got there before The Nazis.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:29 | 4238514 chump666
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Very sad.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:50 | 4238561 TyrannoSoros Wrecks
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The real problem with New York is that it's filled with New Yorkers.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 02:18 | 4238872 squexx
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Not to mention a certain tribe of Satanically evil, beanie wearing parasites!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 22:54 | 4238569 Serenity Now
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More class warfare emotional BS.

You're telling me that the Nanny State that tried to FORCE new mothers to breast feed their babies while in the hospital can't create some Nanny Agency (pun intended) like CPS to go round these kids up?  What, are they too busy taking priviledged kids (you know, the ones with two parents and a roof over their head) away to be bothered?

Please.  Stop falling for this nonsense.  

IF these homeless stats are true, then at least come to your senses and realize that liberals do not give a damn about people.  Compassion is their schtick, their "hook," not their way of living.  

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 23:06 | 4238588 Caviar Emptor
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Small business in NYC is crumbling. Biflation has killed the model, the formula due to ever rising overhead on the one hand and constrained consumers on the other (demand destruction through wage deflation). Only the big box model works. But they are the small business killers. And the wage and employment killers. They only sell what comes out of the same sweat shop in Bangladesh.

Without any regulation all the homeless children would be working as dope mules and sex slaves.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 23:08 | 4238590 reader2010
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History needs photographers to document those homeless kids in this Greater Depression. 

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 23:35 | 4238649 RaceToTheBottom
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Well maybe we need an Occupy WS.  Yeah, thats the ticket.....

Oh, we tried that?


Remember back for a few days after the Financial Crash, the WS Banksters were actually scared; they hired special police, ,etc.  Then the NYC police reiterated that they were there to serve their every need...

It was only a few days, but I do remember when WS was scared for a days or so....

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 04:04 | 4238932 the0ther
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It would be awesome if the new mayor would drag these Wall St scumbags out into the streets and gun them down. He is more likely to blow them though.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 00:01 | 4238699 Irene
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Obviously, one wants to be compassionate towards the poor, and especially poor children.  What are you supposed to do, however, with families like this that, according to the article, have at least six children whom they are unable to care for and yet keep having more? 

I live in NYC and I don't have an answer.  We're already spending over $800 million per year on homeless shelters.  But $$$ don't go very far in this city. Perhaps moving some of the homeless families out of NYC into areas that could provide a better environment for these kids might give them a chance at something better.  I get the feeling, though, that other communities would argue NIMBY.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 00:05 | 4238709 Yes_Questions
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If this is going to affect millions of American jobs, shouldn't the mainstream media be making a big deal out of this?


Oh Michael

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 00:15 | 4238727 Son of Captain Nemo
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"Where are the good jobs for workers in North America and Europe going to come from in the years ahead?"...

Simple. They're being supplanted and systematically erased by immigrant workers who are willing to do the same jobs at 1/3 the cost.  This of course doesn't include the American worker who trains the immigrant in his job before he's terminated and the jobs are in turn sent to the immigrant's Country. In most cases permanently.

Worst still is that Asians and Europeans in particular who possess the technical skills and in many cases teach at the best U.S. Universities are increasingly leaving the U.S. because they have both the education and manufacturing infrastructure in place in their home Country courtesy of the American Corporations that put them there.  Thus the incentives through offshoring eventually disincentivise staying in the host Country once they are mature enoughThis has been and will continue to create enormous problems for lobbysists and politicians in Washington ever in need for increasing taxes.  You see Washington making deals right and left with China in particular in places in the midwest and west coast cheap land in a vein attempt to keep the technical development academic workforce in the U.S. with the top R&D grants in most cases going to those foreign concerns.

With all of that said, the worst development of all and one that has been poison to the American culture is looking for the quickest way to make the biggest buck and to win the lottery so that they will never have to work again! One can only imagine where this Country would be right now if we didn't have the likes of Henry Ford's Charles Flint's, Smith and Wesson had they sold all of their patents to the highest bidders vs. running it themselves and providing opportunities where they lived to share in there own wealth to make not only the business grow but a legacy that would endure long after they were gone.

We need to go back to the 'old model' if we are ever going to succeed again in creating jobs in this Country that matter and it starts with the entrepreneurs in this Country with deep pockets willing to take risks the way the old schoolers did.  If worst comes to worse cloning has steadily shown advances. We know where they're buried?...

And while we're at it, maybe we can dig up Franklin, Jefferson, Adams and Madison and put them back to work as well?

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 00:33 | 4238754 MFLTucson
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Liberalism does not work.  Get rid of this group of idiots running this country.  Lets go back to family, love of thy neighbor, church, peace and taking care of our children rather than the mobstrers ruining this country and this arrogant clown you elected. IT DOES NOT TAKE A VILLAGE TO RAISE A FAMILY, IT TAKES PARENTS, CHURCH AND EXTENDED FAMILY.  GET THESE ASSHOLES OUT OF OUR LIVES AND LETS FIX THIS COUNTRY. 

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 00:52 | 4238784 Serenity Now
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The Left trots out the homeless "epidemic" every few years when they need to bolster their class warfare as an excuse to steal more of your money.

Read the's not about homeless people (other than the emotional story of Dasani which is intentionally designed to make you emotional, not rational).  It's about class warfare. 

Wall Street has NOTHING to do with people being homeless.  If you gave all of Wall Street's money to homeless people, the overwhelming majority of them would be back on the streets within a year.  Of course, that's not at all what the Left wants (for you to give Wall Street's money to the homeless).  No, they want you to give YOUR money to the Left. 

If these numbers (of homeless children) are true, then why doesn't the Nanny State round them up and put them in foster care?  They take kids away from two-parent, roof-over-their-head households as often as they can.  

No, they just write BS articles so you will give the Left more money and more power.  This is the same Left who makes laws banning giving homeless people food.  They think you are too stupid to make up a bunch of peanut butter sandwiches and hand out to the homeless.  Only the Left is smart enough to provide solutions.

If you really want to help homeless people (which I do, lest anyone accuse me of being heartless with my cold, hard facts), then give your money to charities who DO good, not the Left which just talks about doing good.  There IS a difference.  

If you really want to help the nation, tell the Left to go start a Communist nation somewhere else.  

NYC, take your city back, ffs.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 06:08 | 4239004 The Abstraction...
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I think if you gave the homeless houses, which could be done by dropping property taxes to zero so that they can buy those ones on sale for $1, then homelessness would cease to be a problem, except for those who can live no other way.


Don't give money to charities, they exist to make their fat cat executes filthy rich.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 01:45 | 4238847 Clowns on Acid
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DiBlazio has neer had a job that didn't have written "Governemnt of NYC " on his paycheck. He is a disaster waiting to happen. One sly move on his part is to name Bill Bratton (ex LAPD, ex NYPD (Guiliani), ex BostonPD (Flynn) as Chief of Police. NYC has approx 28,000 policemen.

DiBlazio is inheriting a huge budget deficit from Mikey the midget Bloomturd. What DiBlazio should do is just privatize the millions of apartments that are presently non revenue producing because the are HOUSING Projects. DiBlazio should just sell the apartments to the present occupants for a nominal sum.

Effectively do what Yeltsin did in Russia. Give the peple their portion of the wealth. The privatization voucher system in Russia , of course there were less than fair oligarchs buying up the "vouchers" from the peasants and eventually buy the Brooklyn Nets and Chelsea FC in London.

Occupants of the apartments get an asset for a nominal sum, NYC taxpayer does not have to foot the bill for Projects maintenance , crime, homelssness, etc... would save $billions and ultmately raise tax revenue.

Only downside? The NYC politicians could not skim off all the money that gets thrown down the rathole of the NYC housing projects anymore.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 03:23 | 4238908 Judge Crater
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New York City never recovered from the 1975, when then City Controller Harrison Goldin said that the 8 3/4% interest rate the banks wanted to roll over $700 in municipal debt was too much.  The problem then was that the banks, led by Chase Manhattan's David Rockefeller, were doing the city a favor at the behest of Governor Nelson Rockefeller.  When Nelson became vice-president under President Gerald Ford in 1975, the 8 3/4 % offer was off the table.  NYC eventually had to pay a 12% interest rate on the triple tax exempt big MAC (Municipal Assistance Corporation) bonds, a deal cooked up by Felix Rohatyn and his thieving Wall Street friends.  The bonds' interest payments were guaranteed by the city's sales tax revenues. The  Municipal Assistance Corporation was a patronage dump where connected people got do-nothing jobs.  Cops got laid off, competent teachers were shown the school door and the mob supporters of soon-to-be Mayor Ed Koch and Governor Hugh Carey took over vast swatches of the city, from dope peddling to cigarette smuggling to dodging gasoline taxes to controlling the concrete trade to garment sweathops.  When do-gooder outsiders in the early 1980s tried to get dope addicts to trade in their hypodermics for clean needles, Koch instructed the police to arrest these guys for violating a State Health regulation, never mind that the do-gooders were trying to prevent the spread of AIDS via contaminated hypodermics.  The Wall Street crooks who got control of NYC back then never let go.  The peak was when Bloomberg bought the Mayor's office.  And since the Wall Street Mafia controls New York City media, the lame reporters for the spineless newspapers and TV stations know better than to tell the truth. Now you know why bridge and tunnel tolls for travel within New York City are up to $11 one way when in 1975 it cost 25 cents to travel one way across the Whitestone Bridge.  

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 06:11 | 4239006 The Burning Planet
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NeoLiberal economics has utterly destroyed this nation. Even the most Die Hard free market economist has to admit that. Either that or you are completely insane.


Globalization needs to end. And it needs to end NOW.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 06:51 | 4239007 NuYawkFrankie
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Re Homeless Children


Then: "Are there no prisons.... are there no workhouses....? "- Ebenezer Scrooge

Now: "Fcuk 'em!" - Wall St

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 06:45 | 4239023 mantrid
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1. typical convervatist would call NYT article manipulation, ingoring the reality that their policies are making harm


2. "The value of the labor of the working man is declining with each passing day"


that's retarded. is there really nothing left to do??! or just nothing we'd like to do?

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 07:05 | 4239031 The Burning Planet
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Both. You hit on the salient aspect. Life, in particular human life, doesn't have ANY purpose. Junk away, and Happy Holidays! Morons.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 09:18 | 4239156 TBT or not TBT
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It's that pesky minimum wage, which ought be be negative, if it must exist at all. Why cant I pay to work if I'd like to, or be paid by employees who'd consent to do so? What the hell.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 07:27 | 4239048 The Burning Planet
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"Once upon a time, things were different in America."


OK. This needs to stop. This retrospecting. This ruminating. It's not healthy. Nothing can be gained from wistfully looking back on a 1950s state of mind. It's gone OK? Just fucking deal with it. It's gone and it aint never coming back. We have to look forward. And more importantly, we have to deal with the here and now. And the here and now isn't pretty. But we're all growed up boys and girls. I'm sure if we put our collective heads together we can come up with a solution. Might not be a pleasant solution. Might be downright brutal in fact. But we can, and we will, come up with a solution. Like Clooney said in the movie Three Kings: "What's the most important thing in life?"


Thu, 12/12/2013 - 09:56 | 4239271 Brazen Heist
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How to successfully pursue one's agenda in a Democracy


1. Keep em dumb, keep em ignorant, keep em busy, keep em distracted, keep em divided, keep em indebted, keep em consuming, keep em self-absorbed.


2. Proceed to get away with screwing them over. 


3. If they start waking up to it, use mainstream media for damage control.


4. In the unlikely event that attention span lasts longer than a few days, the distraction of terrorism comes in handy, but can't go wrong with a scary economic event. 


5. Rinse and repeat.


Meh, democracy is so predictable...

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:01 | 4239464 ManWithaPlan
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"Not that there is anything wrong with making money."

Sure but what does money represent to you and everyone else? What does that mean, making money? Is it our time? A product? Has money replaced everything that mattered? Is it more valuable then the human lives that actually give it power? is not what it used to be. Before, money represented more then just our faith or abstracted value set upon it. It was the capability of a person with that money. Money is just paper. Human potential is endless, I think that was my point...

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 15:18 | 4240564 DadzMad
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With the numbers given in previous comments and based on what I'm guessing is my child's portion of our monthly food cost, Warren Buffet could feed all of the hungy kids in this country for an entire year with less than 1% of his net worth.  I'm not saying he should, but he could.  It's an easy problem to address (not fix, mind you) if those with the means really wanted to address it.  We can feed the kids, but what happens with the rest of their life?  How do we help the Dasani's out of the life they were born into?  The people with means have taken the easy way out theologically (Calvinism) and/or scientifically (Galton/Darwin), but those of us with a soul - and not enough money - know that it isn't right to let them drift away without trying.

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