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Tanking Stocks Are Catching Down To Credit's Reality

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JPY carry trades are not helping and stocks just keep testing lows and finding no new BTFATH-ers for now. This will come as a little surprise to those who have watched the saturated and less exuberant credit markets unable to join the party for the last 2 months.

 

Credit never bought it...

 

and all those NFP taper-is-good gains are gone...

 

as JPY carry is being unwopund (for now)...

 

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Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:36 | 4236588 tsx500
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Santa Clause rally MY ASS !!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:39 | 4236601 Cognitive Dissonance
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Santa got run over by some reindeer.......

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:44 | 4236633 Stoploss
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Well, they're going to throw 7.5B at it Friday anyway.

 

Jus' cuz.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:55 | 4236679 Ruffcut
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Santa got tapered, then just got laid off at JC Penny. He'll rally his ass back up to the north pole and live off reindeer meat.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:12 | 4236722 El Viejo
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There is a microscopic uptic at the very end of the Credit plot and some are getting awfully excited about it, but I just don't see it. I see another Faux Rally possibly with ups and downs and then the big one will hit again.  Kinda like the time period between 2003 and 2008.

See graph here:   http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-11/peak-greater-fools

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:41 | 4236612 TideFighter
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This Period wil soon be over and the Fucking will continue.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:44 | 4236950 101 years and c...
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HYG vs SPX going back to the bottom in Oct, 2011 shows SPX "fair value" at 1260.  thats a perfect 30% "correction" from the top.  let er rip!!!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:39 | 4236615 Ying-Yang
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Hoe hoe hoe.... (A woman that is too loose in the booty)

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:55 | 4236669 CcalSD
Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:20 | 4236808 Winston Churchill
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No announced POMO.

If you strill believe any official pronouncements now , you have not been paying attention.

Year end bonuses are important to the FedRes's owners puppets.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:55 | 4236684 whatsinaname
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Instead of a taper do we see an increase to existing QE on December 17 ?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:39 | 4236599 kliguy38
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Wake me up at 400

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:39 | 4236600 Ying-Yang
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Fukishima me!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:40 | 4236604 no more banksters
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Troika lenders to Greece: what if you don't pay not a single pension in 2014? (!!!)

http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2013/12/troika-lenders-to-greece-what...

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:39 | 4236616 WTFUD
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Wake me up when my free-shit entitlements are affected!

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:39 | 4236617 Gringo Viejo
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They keep throwing the phony Taper meme around.
The boogeyman that doesn't exist. lmao.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:41 | 4236625 TideFighter
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90 points? About the time it takes the PPT to do a Selfie.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:42 | 4236628 madbraz
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$35 billion in reverse repos today.  Need to keep the rehypothecation ponzi alive.  Correct, Bill Dudley?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:48 | 4236639 yogibear
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It's still early in the month.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:54 | 4236644 AGoldhamster
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Swiss blue chips index hit the highs 836x already November 18th - printing a double top after the May top around 8420.

Now at least further down towards 74xx.

Right now 794x.

Script behind it: big boyz sell European equities which are clearly underperforming US equities. As Europe will go down in flames next year. This - for the moment - supports EURUSD. Until they are sold out for a correction.

Swiss blue chips around 77xx could mark a low. 785x might provide some support too.

Gold's rise is just a fake rise - to get as many gold bugs as possible on board - before it will start making new lows again.

DX on the run toward 90. At least.

SnP 1781 (close) or so is an absolutely important line in the sand.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:15 | 4236672 Cacete de Ouro
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Found: Good home needed for Sign language interpreter. Would make great communications strategist for Federal Reserve Tapering speeches..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/nelson-mandela/10510473/Fake-i...

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:59 | 4236673 orangegeek
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Hardly something bears should get excited about.  We've seen this before.

 

Longer term we are fucked, but I would wait and see if we get some ACCELERATED downside tomorrow.

 

POMO is still fully loaded and ready to go.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 13:58 | 4236692 Sufiy
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Real Rotation:

JPMorgan Goes Net Long Gold - Files Bitcoin Killer Patent

After years of allegations about involvement in Gold and Silver manipulation JPMorgan is chasing Bitcoin. So much is for Bitcoin "Gold 2.0" "Limited supply" - you can chose already from 43 listed crypto-currencies and now more are to come. After China and South Korea have banned Bitcoin from Financial Institutions the race is on among the Central Banks to outlaw it. Banksters are always ready to help here.
  JPMorgan involvement in the "Bitcoin-Killer" is very interesting in light of recent reports from Turd Ferguson that for the long time JPMorgan is Net Long Gold and will stand to benefit from the Gold price going higher this time.

 

http://sufiy.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/the-chase-is-on-jpmorgan-chase-build...

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:13 | 4236771 disabledvet
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the point of JP buying gold is not in my view to drive up price...not that can't happen as a consequence of course. To me it's just to manage counter party risk in case we get a replay of 2008 in the near term here. I have no idea why they would want to destroy bitcoin. this world in theory could become a huge profit center for banks at a minimum by simply handling the transactions.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:21 | 4236815 earnyermoney
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banks running cryptocurrencies? The MAN owns cryptocurrencies in that scenario. I would never trust a cryptocurrency of a bank that is plugged into the worlds Central Bank grid.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:48 | 4236973 AGoldhamster
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Turd ... now that is another 100% confirmation gold will first go a lot lower.

This current rally is just to suck in all the sheep following that one-trick pony. See ya all below 1000$/oz into end of Q2/early Q3.

Nevertheless Turd will - anyway - have an explanation.

Mind blowing he still has readers.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:14 | 4236775 madcows
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What constitutes high yield credit nowadays?

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:27 | 4236841 doggis
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HEY - I AM CORRECT IN SAYING THAT THE DIDIER SONNET MODEL HAD 2 DATES FOR HIS MATHEMATICAL MODEL FOR A BUBBLE/BOOM/BUST. THE WEEK OF JANUARY 14TH AND THIS WEEK.

COULD THIS BE THE WEEK IT ALL STARTS TO FALL APART? STAY TUNED.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 14:54 | 4236995 AGoldhamster
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January 14th-20th (+/- 2 weeks) sounds good.

You have to make a difference though between US Indices and EU indices. In example see the Swiss blue chip Index. Self explanatory.

Wed, 12/11/2013 - 15:03 | 4237022 Doubleth1nker
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Its all about the 10 year now.  If its over 3%, ain't gonna be no taper. The fed doesn't give a shit about the made up NFPs.  Only two things matter:  1.  Borrowing rates for the govt.  and 2.  Getting in front of QE not working anymore by tapering before the economy goes back into full-on depression mode by itself, as the latter would prove to all and sundry that the fed has fired its last bullet and missed.  They want to taper so they can blame the bad economic news on the taper rather than their failed QE experiment.

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