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If You Don’t Trust the Fed, Here’s An Inside View That Confirms Your Worst Suspicions

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Submitted by F.F.Wiley of Cyniconomics blog,

Earlier this year the notion that the Fed might modestly taper its purchases drove significant upheaval across financial markets. This episode should engender humility on all sides. It should also correct the misimpression that QE is anything other than an untested, incomplete experiment.

- Former FOMC Governor Kevin Warsh, writing in the Wall Street Journal on November 13.

If I may paraphrase a sainted figure for many of my colleagues, John Maynard Keynes: If the members of the FOMC could manage to get themselves to once again be thought of as humble, competent people on the level of dentists, that would be splendid. I would argue that the time to reassume a more humble central banker persona is upon us.

- Dallas Fed President Richard Fisher, speaking in Chicago on December 9.

I fault the Fed for its lack of intellectual leadership on the economy and, in particular, Bernanke’s lack of forthrightness about the limits of the Fed’s ability to address slow growth and fiscal disequilibrium.

- Former St. Louis Fed President William Poole, speaking in Washington D.C. on March 7.

Does anyone else see a common theme?

Last month, we offered a plain language translation of the Warsh op-ed, because we thought it was too carefully worded and left readers wondering what he really wanted to say. Translation wasn’t necessary for Fisher’s speech, which contained a clear no-confidence vote in the Fed’s QE program. Poole’s comment was from a seminar question-and-answer session earlier this year, but it reached our inbox only last week in a transcript published in the latest Financial Analysts Journal. The Q&A was attached to an article that I’ll discuss here, because it makes claims we haven’t heard from others with FOMC experience.

Here’s an example:

Ben Bernanke talks a lot about risk management and the tradeoff between benefits and costs; he maintains that the need to balance these two issues justifies proceeding with the current policy. But Bernanke does not discuss the risk of political intervention in Fed policy despite numerous examples of the Fed giving in to political pressure and waiting too long to change its policy, which results in a detrimental outcome for the economy.

 

 

Essentially, pressure on the Fed will come from inside the government and may not be very visible; it may be limited to a few op-ed articles from the housing lobby. [FFW – presumably, Poole intended “it” to refer to the visible part of the pressure.] The true amount of political pressure will be largely hidden.

Poole is more or less saying that we have no idea what’s truly behind the Fed’s decisions. But he doesn’t stop there. He’s willing to make a prediction that you wouldn’t expect from an establishment economist:

[T]he real issue is the politics of monetary policy … I believe that the Fed will not successfully resist the political winds that buffet it. I am not a political expert or a political analyst by trade. My qualification for speaking on this topic is that I have followed the interactions between monetary policy and politics for a very long time. As with all things political, the politics of the Fed means that realities often fail to match outward appearances … I believe the Fed is likely to overdo its current QE policy of purchasing $45 billion of Treasuries and $40 billion of MBSs per month.

So there you have it: a 10-year FOMC veteran wants us to know that central banking isn’t all about the latest hot research on the wonders of unconventional measures.  On the contrary, monetary policy is no different than other types of policymaking; it’s guided by hidden political forces.

If you don’t mind our saying so, we feel a bit vindicated. Our very first Fed post ten months ago included the following:

As for the flip-flop [the Fed’s commitment to lifting the stock market through QE so shortly after claiming no responsibility for stock prices in recent bubbles], it’s easy to find a logical explanation. The banks want QE. Influential political and economic leaders want QE. Therefore, the path of least resistance is to give them QE. On the other hand, market manipulation to prick the Internet and housing bubbles would have been widely unpopular. Therefore, policymakers rejected the idea that they should manipulate markets and prick bubbles. No one likes to be unpopular.

 

More generally, QE seems to me to be explained by Bernanke (and his colleagues) being unable to sit still. This is natural behavior when you have to continually justify decisions. It’s not easy to explain to Congress, the media or public why you’re doing nothing but waiting for past policies to work. It won’t be long before people portray you as weak and indecisive and tell you to “Get to work, Mr. Chairman.” But once you start implementing new policies, especially if they’re in a direction that’s expedient for everyone in the short-term, then those criticisms go away. They’re replaced by adjectives like bold and proactive. And who doesn’t want to be known as bold and proactive?

We haven’t returned to this theme often, partly because it can’t be tested like we can test the Fed’s economic beliefs. Regular readers know that we do quite a lot of empirical work. We try our best to follow David Hume’s maxim that: “A wise man, therefore, proportions his belief to the evidence.”

As we see it, the Fed’s economic beliefs are proportioned more closely to political factors than real-life evidence. You might replace Hume with Upton Sinclair, who said “it is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on him not understanding it.”

In other words, politics and personal incentives are a huge part of the picture, and not just in central banking but in the economics profession more generally.

The theories underpinning current policies, which have built up over the last 80 years or so, can’t be properly understood without thinking through the motivations behind key developments. Some of the motivational factors are obvious, while others are more subtle, but I won’t clutter this post with our musings on the hidden drivers in economics. Detlev Schlichter offered a nice summary in his book, Paper Money Collapse:

It would be naïve to simply assume that the exalted position of [mainstream economic] theories in present debate is the result of their superiority in the realm of pure sciences. This is not meant as a conspiracy theory in the sense that professional economists are being hired specifically to develop useful theories for the privileged money producers in order to portray their money printing as universally beneficial. But it would be equally wrong to assume that the battle for ideas is fought only by dispassionate and objective truth-seekers in ivory towers and that only the best theories are handed down to the decision makers in the real world, and that therefore whatever forms the basis of current mainstream discussion must be the best and most accurate theory available. No science operates in a vacuum. The social sciences in particular are often influenced in terms of their focus and method of inquiry by larger cultural and intellectual trends in society. This is probably more readily accepted in the other major social science, history. What questions research asks of the historical record, what areas of inquiry are deemed most pressing and how historians go about historical analysis is often shaped by factors that lie outside the field of science proper and that reflect broader social and political forces.

 

Moreover, ever since mankind began writing its histories they have served political ends. History frequently provides a narrative for the polity that gives it a sense of identity or purpose, whether this is justified or not, and the dominant interpretations of history can be powerful influences on present politics. Similarly, certain economic theories have become to dominate debate on economic issues because they fit the zeitgeist and specific political ideologies. This is not to say that economics cannot be a pure, objective science. It certainly can and should be. Whether theories are correct or not must be decided by scientific inquiry and debate, and not in the arena of politics and public opinion. But it is certainly true that many economists do depend for their livelihoods on politics and public opinion, and that they cannot operate independently of them.

Schlichter is one of many authors and bloggers willing to discuss the awkward realities lurking behind economic theory and central banking. But these ideas are considered taboo by most mainstream media outlets. They’re not discussed in establishment venues or spoken by establishment figures.

Or so I thought.

Poole’s refreshingly honest take on the Fed’s inner workings – from someone who truly knows what goes on behind the curtains – is more than welcome.

 


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Thu, 12/12/2013 - 20:47 | Link to Comment vmromk
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Trust the Fed ? Would you not trust Charles Ponzi ?

DEATH to the CRIMINAL Federal Reserve.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 21:24 | Link to Comment LetThemEatRand
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If we can't audit the Fed, can we at least rename it The Madoff?  At least a few people may start to get the idea.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 22:03 | Link to Comment knukles
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Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
things gonna be all right soon.
Just temporary setbacks, transitory.
Unusual events.

Like the Federal Government closing down for a day last week due to the no snow storm.
Otherwise they'd a made or saved 2,288,493.27 jobs.
Don't wanna pull job creation too far into the present, so we'll just add those folks into the monthly numbers over the next 18 months.

Nothing to see here, because it's all imaginary.
Bread, circuses and bullshit

So that leaves a secretive fed to print a lotta money, no?
Damn!

 

Don't forget, as Soupy Sales would have said; "It's all fucked up, kiddies!"

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 07:51 | Link to Comment markmotive
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Fortunately (?) the only thing you need to monitor to see what's going up or down is the Fed's actions. Like it or not, they are the game changer.

Christine Hughes on following the Fed:

http://www.planbeconomics.com/2013/10/what-to-do-with-your-money-follow-...

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 08:32 | Link to Comment SoilMyselfRotten
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Gadzooks, Steve Liesman will have something to say about this!

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 11:07 | Link to Comment TheReplacement
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Steve lies man?

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 22:00 | Link to Comment Imminent Crucible
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Now you know why Poole stepped down, before the dam burst:

" In 2003 then President of the St. Louis Federal Reserve, William Poole publicly called for the US Government to cut its implied guarantee of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae claiming then that the two lacked capital to weather severe financial crisis.  Poole, whose warnings were dismissed by then Fed Chairman Greenspan, called repeatedly in 2006 and again in 2007 for Congress to repeal their charters and avoid the predictable taxpayer cost of a huge bailout."

http://oilgeopolitics.net/Financial_Tsunami/Fannie_FIASCO/fannie_fiasco....

I'd like to hear what Bill Poole has to say in private about Greenspan and Bernanke.  Volcker said it in public: "The Bernanke Fed isn't up to the job."

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 10:39 | Link to Comment overmedicatedun...
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so many post rational thought, namely numbers don't lie, data does not lie, but pointing to the number of a certain very small group have positions of power in MSM, Gov, BANKS, education and so on and so forth, is a lie.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 10:47 | Link to Comment halfawake
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seriously, it's like they haven't read the creature from jekyll. BAILOUTS ARE THE GAME. nm, they're just controlled op.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 00:30 | Link to Comment AGuy
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"Trust the Fed ? Would you not trust Charles Ponzi ?"

Maybe I am sticking my neck out here, but I do trust the Fed. I do trust that they will bring misery and suffering to 99% of the global population.

 

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 11:09 | Link to Comment TheReplacement
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That's because you get it.  Now go spread the enlightenment.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 20:53 | Link to Comment BullyBearish
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Do you think Janet Yellen will be as good an administrative assitant to Stanley Fischer as she was to the Bernank?

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 20:53 | Link to Comment johngaltfla
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I don't know Bully, but they won't have to worry about flies at the Fed. That face will keep all kinds of critters away, especiallyi capitalists.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 22:59 | Link to Comment The Gooch
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And Francis Sawyer.

His name was Francis Sawyer.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 21:02 | Link to Comment Antifederalist
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Perfect set up. She is the face. He is the brain. Evil brain at that.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 21:31 | Link to Comment frankTHE COIN
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Of course she will. Yellen made 1st Team All Fluffer in school.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 20:52 | Link to Comment johngaltfla
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Isn't trusting the Fed like buying a steak knife set as a Christmas present for Charles Manson?

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 08:33 | Link to Comment kralizec
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Yes.

But as we all know, not everyone is sensible and has their head outside of their rectum.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 20:58 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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This is a revelation?

The Fed worships at the altar of big banks and the government- it's primary stake-holders (and I have increasing difficulty distinguishing between the two).  The only thing that will stop their multi-decade policy of "if it moves, print at it" is when their policies stop benefitting BOTH of their stake-holders simultaneously, as they do now.  What would tigger such a rift?  Not sure, but I suspect rising interest rates would be part of the trigger.

Until that happens, they will continue current policies to a greater or lesser extent (tending more towards the 'greater' end of the spectrum).

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 21:53 | Link to Comment Robot Traders Mom
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Completely agreed.

 

"...monetary policy is no different than other types of policymaking; it’s guided by hidden political forces."

 

This is definitely from the #NoShit file...

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 20:59 | Link to Comment Billy Shears
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"First, kill all the lawyers!"

William Shakespeare

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 21:08 | Link to Comment masterinchancery
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Second, all the bankers.
Thu, 12/12/2013 - 21:48 | Link to Comment Pseudo Anonym
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cannot have that.  that would take care of a large portion of the jew population.  another holocoust?

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 21:58 | Link to Comment knukles
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Two elderly Jewish gents are walking alomg the street and pass a cathedral with a sign out front says: "Conversions, $200"
One looks at the other, shrugs his shoulders and says: "Meh, why not give it a try"
10 minutes later he comes out and his buddy asks him if it worked. 
He says:  Meh, I don't feel any different."
His bud asks: "Didju get the $200?"
He looks at him and says: "My God, don'tchu Jews ever think of anything but money?"

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 22:40 | Link to Comment dow2000
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Q: How was copper wire invented?

A: By two Jews fighting over a penny.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 04:27 | Link to Comment S5936
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Third, the entire MSM.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 21:07 | Link to Comment eddiebe
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Hey, when you own the printing press, you make policy; you don't have to ask some slimy ass kissing politician for anything. Geez!

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 21:07 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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The ANC Destroyer

Selfie: David Cameron and Barack Obama took a picture of themselves alongside Denmark's prime minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt

 

A Nigger’s fool can become, the fools Nigger.

Read that over until you grasp the meaning. This is what is transforming before your eyes.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 21:46 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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Thank you for down votes Mao Zedong ZH blog soldiers . You cannot swing the UN bullshit as racism. Looks like you just got caught up in your own propaganda sting. Let’s see how you can dig yourself out of this hole. Tag, your it.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 00:21 | Link to Comment michael_engineer
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"Poole is more or less saying that we have no idea what’s truly behind the Fed’s decisions. But he doesn’t stop there. "

My best guess what's truly behind their decisions involves the affects of resource constraints.

http://web.archive.org/web/20111112074159/http://www.zerohedge.com/news/...

This more recent analysis (a long, detailed, professional .pdf worthy of reading) along those lines is from more well known Tullett Prebon:

http://ftalphaville.ft.com/files/2013/01/Perfect-Storm-LR.pdf

Tullett Prebon is an inter-dealer money broker.  Per Wiki...The company operates as an intermediary in wholesale financial markets. Many of its clients are commercial and investment banks. It operates in eight product areas: Volatility, Rates, Credit, Treasury, Non Banking, Energy, Equities and Property.

So, if their clients are commercial and investment banks, then it is a very interesting message that Tullet Prebon is telling to them with this material.  I wonder if the parts of the Fed could be considered commercial or investment banks? ...Hmm. 

Even Deutsche Bank is thinking along the lines that there has been some important structural change per the recent ZH article "We Think Something Structurally Changed Since The Great Financial Crisis"

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 12:02 | Link to Comment janus
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i agree with you, but...

"...resource constraints."  i think resourse 'constraints' is flatly understated

according to whom?  who calculated these estimates, and specifically those of the saudi reserves...my guess (and i have reason to hazard this guess) is that it's a fraction (with a diminutive numerator atop a troubling denominator) of what's claimed...we're playing a game based on assumptions promoted by powers unseen...like those who pay for the calculation of such estimates.

oil being underground makes this easier than, say, overestating your wheat crop.

give me a gold backed dollar and a series of middle eastern colonies or give me anarchy!  (updated from p. henry)  people of earth, it really is that simple.  you cannot have your idealistic notions of self-determination AND governments as they exist.  so, either abandon your soverignty or start picking which nations you'd like to colonize.  i claim iran and kazakstan to begin with...your turn, russia.  russia takes saudi and mexico...your turn china.  china takes east africa and taiwan (for sentimental reasons).  the EU claims lybia and the sudan.  on and on and on.

one thing's FOR SURE...it'll be a golden literary age full of high adventure either way...colonies or anarchy -- win/win for the writer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10YYBTD650s

i'm working on a rewrite, that's right/

gonna change the ending/

throw away the title/

toss it in the trash,

janus

 

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 21:13 | Link to Comment Cognitive Dissonance
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"Schlichter is one of many authors and bloggers willing to discuss thee awkward realities lurking behind economic theory and central banking. But these ideas are considered taboo by most mainstream media outlets. They’re not discussed in establishment venues or spoken by establishment
figures."

One may endlessly debate and complain about the effects and consequences of the system, but one must never question the system itself.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 21:21 | Link to Comment Ignatius
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Debt free money is the civili rights issue of the 21st century.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 22:25 | Link to Comment Agstacker
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Well spoken, sir.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 21:26 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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One may endlessly debate and complain about the effects and consequences of the system, but one must never question the system itself.

Many have begun questioning the state of affairs. Fear breathes down their necks. Consequences equates to tearing down the small family controlled ponzi scam they call capitalism. Monopoly is the precise term. We’ll rip down the monopoly to jump start capitalism... Again, we know where they live. :>)

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 16:01 | Link to Comment Rafferty
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Precisely the same as in the old USSR.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 21:17 | Link to Comment RaceToTheBottom
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It would be interesting to know whether Fisher took any credit for the education/miseducation of his student, The Bernank

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 21:16 | Link to Comment hangemhigh77
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Hang all these fukers.  Enough talk talk TALK!!!  I've heard enough, START HANGING THEM!!  

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 21:18 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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Free Francis Sawyer.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 04:34 | Link to Comment janus
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& bank guy in brussels, et al.

these aren't the principals espoused in the manifesto i read, lo those two-plus turbulent years ago.  in point of fact, this kind of behavior is antithetical to the philosophical spirit animating said manifesto.

is this 'ladies home journal' or is it mutha-fuckin Fight Club?  but the Tylers (you boys just barely keep caps) are making new friends (and have been for over a year), very powerful, charming, erudite and well-meaning friends.  friends who, when they invite any of the Tylers (maybe one in particular...hmmm?) to any social function, first flatter, 'oh, my dear, it's simply fabulous what you've done...and i read...oh, tis no secret, we all read...it's only, well, we find some of the comments concerning; off-putting, really.  it's altoghether ghastly.'  then they nudge (for Tylers' own good (and by extension the good of all we ZHealots)) thusly, 'but in order to spread-out in natural directions -- that is, to flourish --you're going to have to prune some of the blight from your branches'...or something to that effect.  

something tells me janus isn't too far off.

it's tough to say no; few find the courage; fewer still are heroes...the wine is, after all, top-shelf -- and the pussy parading about in such settings?  well, they are parabolic-spike-making in the mostest. 

maybe we've expected too much; maybe the fault is not in our Tylers, but in our selves, dear ZHealots.

perhaps some of us have been named by these swanky 'friends'; perhaps some of us have made the list:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaTbErVDQ40

tribute to F Sawyer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OnpkDWbeJs

 

the simple and salient question is therefore: are we -- having so prospered from the wisdom of ages before -- to now accord 'protection' to select, abstract 'groups' over and against those God-endowed rights ennumerated unto The Individual in silly things like the Magna Carta, The Decleration of Independence, The Constitution or the ZH Manifesto?  I say no.

I say tolerance is a sublime & truly liberal virtue; advocacy of a nebulous group is not, however, true to any authentic liberal ethos, it is instead anathema to the same...it is a new-fangled form of tyrrany (actually a very olde tyranny (not unlike the special protections extended to, oh, i dunno, 'the aristocracy'), but i digress), it is a soft and subtle tyrrany meant to cripple and cage the critical mind.

may the Lord of Hosts damn the man who would fetter a free mind!

tribute to all the ZHealots banned for words...really, words?

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIFQkbhTIGk

thank you, Johnny Cash...can't thank you enough.

and if'n yer curious, yup, janus has spent a night or two in the starkville city jail...once for flowers, too!  only, the kind of flowers they sell by the lid; or, for all you millenials, the OZ.  but things weren't so bad back then; at least you could smoke in lock-down...well, it wasn't a good idea to smoke the flowers...but many of the bruthahs were equal to the challenge -- bruthahs can hide buddage in the most uncanny places.  and to answer any questions: no, i passed on that one (don't want to say from whence he pulled that dubbage...disgusting!)

i cannot speak for the tylers or anyone else...but i will allow ole Bill Shakespeare to speak for janus:

...i am as the Northern Star, of whose true-fixed and constant quality, there is no fellow in the firmament.

thanks, Bill Shakespeare...can't thank you enough.

The Individual,

janus

 

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 05:16 | Link to Comment trader1
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The point is that "the spectacle is so fascinating." For the world is a

spell (in Latin, fascinum), an enchantment (being thrilled by a chant), an

amazement (being lost in a maze), an arabesque of such stunning

rhythm and a plot so intriguing that we are drawn by its web into a state

of involvement where we forget that it is a game. We become fascinated

to the point where the cheering and the booing are transformed into

intense love and hate, or delight and terror, ecstatic orgasm or

screaming meemies. All made out of on-and-off or black-and-white,

pulsed, stuttered, diagrammed mosaiced, syncopated, shaded, jolted,

tangoed, and lilted through all possible measures and dimensions. It is

simultaneously the purest nonsense and the utmost artistry.

Listen intently to a voice singing without words. It may charm you

into crying, force you to dance, fill you with rage, or make you jump for

joy. You can't tell where the music ends and the emotions begin, for the

whole thing is a kind of music—the voice playing on your nerves as the

breath plays on a flute. All experience is just that, except that its music

has many more dimensions than sound. It vibrates in the dimensions of

sight, touch, taste, and smell, and in the intellectual dimension of

symbols and words—all evoking and playing upon each other. But at

root—and this is a negative way of saying something highly positive—it

is nothing more than the mysterious utterance of the old man of

Spithead, who opened the window and said:

Fill jomble, fill jumble,

Fill rumble-come-tumble.

Bach states it more elegantly, but with just as little external meaning:

 

Once you have seen this you can return to the world of practical

affairs with a new spirit. You have seen that the universe is at root a

magical illusion and a fabulous game, and that there is no separate

"you" to get something out of it, as if life were a bank to be robbed. The

only real "you" is the one that comes and goes, manifests and withdraws

itself eternally in and as every conscious being. For "you" is the

universe looking at itself from billions of points of view, points that

come and go so that the vision is forever new. What we see as death,

empty space, or nothingness is only the trough between the crests of this

endlessly waving ocean. It is all part of the illusion that there should

seem to be something to be gained in the future, and that there is an

urgent necessity to go on and on until we get it. Yet just as there is no

time but the present, and no one except the all-and-everything, there is

never anything to be gained—though the zest of the game is to pretend

that there is.

Anyone who brags about knowing this doesn't understand it, for he is

only using the theory as a trick to maintain his illusion of separateness, a

gimmick in a game of spiritual one-upmanship. Moreover, such

bragging is deeply offensive to those who do not understand, and who

honestly believe themselves to be lonely, individual spirits in a

desperate and agonizing struggle for life. For all such there must be

deep and unpatronizing compassion, even a special kind of reverence

and respect, because, after all, in them the Self is playing its most farout

and daring game—the game of having lost Itself completely and of

being in danger of some total and irremediable disaster. This is why

Hindus do not shake hands on meeting, but put their palms together and

bow in a gesture of reverence, honoring the Godhead in the stranger.

And do not suppose that this understanding will transform you all at

once into a model of virtue. I have never yet met a saint or sage who did

not have some human frailties. For so long as you manifest yourself in

human or animal form, you must eat at the expense of other life and

accept the limitations of your particular organism, which fire will still

burn and wherein danger will still secrete adrenalin. The morality that

goes with this understanding is, above all, the frank recognition of your

dependence upon enemies, underlings, out-groups, and, indeed, upon all

other forms of life whatsoever. Involved as you may be in the conflicts

and competitive games of practical life, you will never again be able to

indulge in the illusion that the "offensive other" is all in the wrong, and

could or should be wiped out. This will give you the priceless ability of

being able to contain conflicts so that they do not get out-of-hand, of

being willing to compromise and adapt, of playing, yes, but playing it

cool. This is what is called "honor among thieves," for the really

dangerous people are those who do not recognize that they are thieves—

the unfortunates who play the role of the "good guys" with such blind

zeal that they are unconscious of any indebtedness to the "bad guys"

who support their status. To paraphrase the Gospel, "Love your

competitors, and pray for those who undercut your prices." You would

be nowhere at all without them.

The political and personal morality of the West, especially in the

United States, is—for lack of this sense—utterly schizophrenic. It is a

monstrous combination of uncompromising idealism and unscrupulous

gangsterism, and thus devoid of the humor and humaneness which

enables confessed rascals to sit down together and work out reasonable

deals. No one can be moral—that is, no one can harmonize contained

conflicts—without coming to a working arrangement between the angel

in himself and the devil in himself, between his rose above and his

manure below. The two forces or tendencies are mutually

interdependent, and the game is a working game just so long as the

angel is winning, but does not win, and the devil is losing, but is never

lost. (The game doesn't work in reverse, just as the ocean doesn't work

with wave-crests down and troughs up.)

It is most important that this be understood by those concerned with

civil rights, international peace, and the restraint of nuclear weapons.

These are most undoubtedly causes to be backed with full vigor, but

never in a spirit which fails to honor the opposition, or which regards it

as entirely evil or insane. It is not without reason that the formal rules of

boxing, judo, fencing, and even dueling require that the combatants

salute each other before the engagement. In any foreseeable future there

are going to be thousands and thousands of people who detest and

abominate Negroes, communists, Russians, Chinese, Jews, Catholics,

beatniks, homosexuals, and "dope-fiends." These hatreds are not going

to be healed, but only inflamed, by insulting those who feel them, and

the abusive labels with which we plaster them—squares, fascists,

rightists, know-nothings—may well become the proud badges and

symbols around which they will rally and consolidate themselves. Nor

will it do to confront the opposition in public with polite and nonviolent

sit-ins and demonstrations, while boosting our collective ego by

insulting them in private. If we want justice for minorities and cooled

wars with our natural enemies, whether human or non-human, we must

first come to terms with the minority and the enemy in ourselves and in

our own hearts, for the rascal is there as much as anywhere in the

"external" world—-especially when you realize that the world outside

your skin is as much yourself as the world inside. For want of this

awareness, no one can be more belligerent than a pacifist on the

rampage, or more militantly nationalistic than an anti-imperialist.

You may, indeed, argue that this is asking too much. You may resort

to the old alibi that the task of "changing human nature" is too arduous

and too slow, and that what we need is immediate and massive action.

Obviously, it takes discipline to make any radical change in one's own

behavior patterns, and psychotherapy can drag on for years and years.

But this is not my suggestion. Does it really take any considerable time

or effort just to understand that you depend on enemies and outsiders to

define yourself, and that without some opposition you would be lost? To

see this is to acquire, almost instantly, the virtue of humor, and humor

and self-righteousness are mutually exclusive. Humor is the twinkle in

the eye of a just judge, who knows that he is also the felon in the dock.

How could he be sitting there in stately judgment, being addressed as

"Your Honor" or "Mi Lud," without those poor bastards being dragged

before him day after day? It does not undermine his work and his

function to recognize this. He plays the role of judge all the better for

realizing that on the next turn of the Wheel of Fortune he may be the

accused, and that if all the truth were known, he would be standing

there now.

If this is cynicism, it is at least loving cynicism—an attitude and an

atmosphere that cools off human conflicts more effectively than any

amount of physical or moral violence. For it recognizes that the real

goodness of human nature is its peculiar balance of love and selfishness,

reason and passion, spirituality and sensuality, mysticism and

materialism, in which the positive pole has always a slight edge over the

negative. (Were it otherwise, and the two were equally balanced, life

would come to a total stalemate and standstill.) Thus when the two

poles, good and bad, forget their interdependence and try to obliterate

each other, man becomes subhuman—the implacable crusader or the

cold, sadistic thug. It is not for man to be either an angel or a devil, and

the would-be angels should realize that, as their ambition succeeds, they

evoke hordes of devils to keep the balance. This was the lesson of

Prohibition, as of all other attempts to enforce purely angelic behavior,

or to pluck out evil root and branch.

It comes, then, to this: that to be "viable," livable, or merely

practical, life must be lived as a game—and the "must" here expresses a

condition, not a commandment. It must be lived in the spirit of play

rather than work, and the conflicts which it involves must be carried on

in the realization that no species, or party to a game, can survive without

its natural antagonists, its beloved enemies, its indispensable opponents.

For to "love your enemies" is to love them as enemies; it is not

necessarily a clever device for winning them over to your own side. The

lion lies down with the lamb in paradise, but not on earth—"paradise"

being the tacit, off-stage level where, behind the scenes, all conflicting

parties recognize their interdependence, and, through this recognition,

are able to keep their conflicts within bounds. This recognition is the

absolutely essential chivalry which must set the limits within all

warfare, with human and non-human enemies alike, for chivalry is the

debonair spirit of the knight who "plays with his life" in the knowledge

that even mortal combat is a game.

No one who has been hoaxed into the belief that he is nothing but his

ego, or nothing but his individual organism, can be chivalrous, let alone

a civilized, sensitive, and intelligent member of the cosmos.

But to be lived this way, the life-game has to be purged of selfcontradictory

rules. This, and not some kind of moral effort, is the way

out of the hoax of separateness. Thus when a game sets the players an

impossible and not simply difficult task, it comes quickly to the point

where it is no longer worth playing. There is no way of observing a rule

set in the form of a double-bind—that is, a two-part rule whose parts are

mutually exclusive. No one can be compelled to behave freely or forced

to act independently. Yet whole cultures and civilizations have

befuddled themselves with this kind of nonsense, and, through failing to

spot the self-contradiction, their members have been haunted all through

their lives by the sense that individual existence is a problem and a

predicament—a form of nature doomed to perpetual frustration. The

sense of ego is at root a discomfort and a bore, and nothing shows it

more clearly than such everyday phrases as: "I need to get away from

myself" or "You should find something to take you out of yourself" or

"I read to forget myself." Get lost! Hence the fanaticisms and

intoxications—religious, political, and sexual, the Nazis, the Klan,

Hell's Angels, the Circus Maximus, the dreary fascination of the TV

screen, witch-burnings, Mickey Spillane and James Bond, pachinko

parlors, alcoholic stupors, revivals, tabloid newspapers, and juvenile

gangs—all of which, as things stand, are the necessary safety-valves and

palliatives for human beings whose very existence is defined in selfcontradictory

and self-defeating terms.

Finally, the game of life as Western man has been "playing" it for the

past century needs less emphasis on practicality, results, progress, and

aggression. This is why I am discussing vision, and keeping off the

subject of justifying the vision in terms of its practical applications and

consequences. Whatever may be true for the Chinese and the Hindus, it

is timely for us to recognize that the future is an ever-retreating mirage,

and to switch our immense energy and technical skill to contemplation

instead of action. However much we may now disagree with Aristotle's

logic and his metaphors, he must still be respected for reminding us that

the goal of action is always contemplation—knowing and being rather

than seeking and becoming.

As it is, we are merely bolting our lives—gulping down undigested

experiences as fast as we can stuff them in—because awareness of our

own existence is so superficial and so narrow that nothing seems to us

more boring than simple being. If I ask you what you did, saw, heard,

smelled, touched, and tasted yesterday, I am likely to get nothing more

than the thin, sketchy outline of the few things that you noticed, and of

those only what you thought worth remembering. Is it surprising that an

existence so experienced seems so empty and bare that its hunger for an

infinite future is insatiable? But suppose you could answer, "It would

take me forever to tell you, and I am much too interested in what's

happening now." How is it possible that a being with such sensitive

jewels as the eyes, such enchanted musical instruments as the ears, and

such a fabulous arabesque of nerves as the brain can experience itself as

anything less than a god? And, when you consider that this incalculably

subtle organism is inseparable from the still more marvelous patterns of

its environment—from the minutest electrical designs to the whole

company of the galaxies—how is it conceivable that this incarnation of

all eternity can be bored with being?

-Alan Watts, The Book, 1966

 
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Fri, 12/13/2013 - 07:41 | Link to Comment janus
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trader1,

i thought i recognized you from my earliest beginnings here on the Hedge; and then i checked your stats -- 4 years & 22 weeks...which would place you at the very origins -- back when the Hedge was but a series of saplings planted about the perimeter of maiden lane.  4 years & 22 weeks; that's what i call bona fide.

let me say a few things (this has the potential go long)

as the resident mystic round these parts, i want to first defend your decision to post such a long piece...not that that should be standard form; but certain times call for certain things -- and 5 am on a wintry, mystical night/mornin certainly qualifies.

it's difficult to discern if you were out to criticize, commend or concoct some queer combination of the two; my guess is the latter; insofar as each part could, for janus, be taken in either a laudatory or slanderous light...but it's all-good.  if anybody can take it, janus can; only, sometimes he doesn't...like when he slaps the snarksters about with extreme prejudice.

which leads me to a most important observation and critique i have for the piece you posted.  when i attack, or, let's say, when i seek to destroy, it isn't from the perspective of one thinking 'evil' must be vanquished such that a golden age of equality, fraternity & justice may from their ashes emerge; rather, i understand the duality more than i can, under the present constraints of time, express (there is, after all, a very good reason i am janus...well, there's several reasons -- again, too much to explain).  it has more to do with a matter unaddressed in the treatise you shared; namely, balance.

which is why i support a strong russia; because they act as effective check on our boundless and feckless hubris...mind you, not because russia is 'good'...well, on a relative basis, their stated (and, when it comes to russia, stated is not always acted) objectives are good (for russians) -- in terms of foreign and domestic policy -- and they act with regard to the same; relative, at least, when contrast against our own.  besides, when did containing russia get confused with capturing russia?  were we really foolish enough to think?...nah, we couldn't possibly think we could effectively balkanize mother russia into a manageable collage of splintered shards...could we?  beware blowback, bitchez!  this may be hard for neocons to believe, but russians are actually proud of such and intend to so remain.

but i, again, digress... 

the current paradigm is out of balance; the black squares of the great game have tinctured the white with their inky abominations and desolations, moreover they have sloshed past their boundaries, such that the white squares are a squalid swill of the detritus spilt from within the bounds of their opposing brother.  evil has about it a disproportionate sway; and things are going their way.  but not for long.  

balance must be restored; all things must settle at equilibrium; but things never stay in any permanent stasis...the world (and the universe) is a dynamo of flux...it is not only the human instinct to 'over-correct' imbalance, it is the very nature of all dynamos found in our world (and the universe).  what i mean to say is, the time is approaching when the forces of 'good' will subsume and snap the spine of 'evil' till its almost forgotten...and then, well, 'evil' is loosed again to attain to equilibrium, and then some.  {side note: equilibrium is NOT an arbitrary assignation} 

other than that, i absolutely LOVED what i read; and it wouldn't surprise ole janus to discover, a few chapters later, good ole mr. watts coming around to reconcile all his ideas to this theme of 'balance'...i may be wrong, or optimistic, or both; but i am certain that i'm right...and all other ancient mystics (those worth their salt) are here of a single accord on this equilibrium thing.  hell's bells, even Jesus Christ took counsel with that serpent of olde on more than one occasion; most notably when He was tempted.  but it bears noting that Christ was known to have said, 'get behind me, satan'...and He did strike the serpent on the head (in retaliation for biting Him on the heel...vengeance is so damn sweet! -- especially when you exact it seven-fold).

the overarching point is that the world is warped something awful...evil is everywhere spreading itself out like a bay tree, choking off the Light from those who know best what to do with it.  

speaking of trees, Christ & parables, it may be instructive to review one of His gems:  (paraphrased)

The Story of The Master, The Steward and The Tree:

master: i see you've got yourself a sorry and fruitless tree...what of it, noble orchard steward?

steward: well, the thing with this tree is, it used to put off the most exquisite fruit...bloomed and brought forth the choicest of ripened deliciousness.  alas, it's all but barren...still puts off magnificent foliage, though.  

master: uproot the damnable thing...i detest it.

steward: please, master, allow me to prune it; let me dig about its roots to irrigate and fertilize...it was such a magnificent tree...oh, how it used to provide for and please many...a marvelous thing it was.

master: okay, do as you wish, honorable orchard-tender.

***okay, so, the steward does as promised...time passes, and still the limbs do nothing but blot the life giving Light from those beneath it***

***master returns to inspect***

master: what ho!?!  i demand and explanation for all this mischief!

steward: please, master...just one more season.

***and so we wait***

master: (no words, just a scowl and an air of menace)

steward: gulp!

master: take this tree, uproot it, chop it into a thousand pieces, and toss it into the FIRE!  no place in my orchard for a goddam parasitic resource-sucker!  may it rot in hell!

steward: right-o...couldn't agree more, me lord!  

 

 

so, as you can see, the tree is the US government and the master is God Almighty; and we ZHealots (and many like us) are but the humble stewards...not that we don't understand our own shortcommings and felonious tendencies -- not unlike your glint-eyed judge.

methinks it's time for purging-fires and bilious indignation on behalf of 'good'...if, that is, we want to save the whole orchard; lest evil consume the whole of the garden for the sake of a single fruitless tree...selah.

the choice is not theirs; the decision is ours.  we now have the numbers and the resolve.  i have cast my lot against evil, and i'm kindling a bonfire -- of the vanities, of course (special thanks to tom wolf).

 

i look forward to reading the rest on those attachments.  thanks.

and so a song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN_Ce5y7XRE

 

 Well you know what it's like 

i don't got to tell you 

who puts up a fight 

walking out of hell now 

when you fought piranhas 

and you fought the cold 

there's nobody with you 

and you're all alone invictus, janus

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 09:36 | Link to Comment janus
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trader1,

i forgot one other thing; and this is my ultimate criticism of hinduism, zen & nirvana & the like...it's something of a basic philosophical principal; from which we in the west derive all others.  not that i'm averse to 'intuition' and whatnot; but if we're to apply reason and logic to our experience and how our senses interact with our surroundings, and furthermore, how our consciousness collates sense, experience, judgement and awareness...well, there is no denying our essential singularity...some fool out france-ways had this to say, 'cogito ergo sum'.  i think therefore I AM (as your bio states, pardon me for making this personal).

that is the very point.  to minimize or negate the individual -- not as in 'possession' of the godhead, but rather of and in the godhead; that is to say, the individual IS the godhead -- and classify its inviolate Truth as a low hoax, is to both blaspheme the godhead itself (The Individual) and migrate this most seminal uniqueness into a melange, or rather amoebae, of homogenized 'being'...bah!

it is this very thinking that has so far relegated the hordes of the east to despotic thuggery -- stay within the herd, we are but one, striving for one's self is but sin...again, bah!  

tell me how there's some nobility in the modes and mores manifest of that imbecility...the nations and cultures so consumed with this esoteric and ethereal balderdash are all rotting corpses of vice, depravity, poverty, disease, superstition, indolence, squalor and venal decay (and if it weren't for our zany western ideas, things would be far, far worse over there...read a bit of unfiltered history).  but, i'll grant them this, they do have some compelling scripture...only, as we in the west say, ye shall know them by their fruits.  and it's a sorry and molded bushel if ever there were such.

tell me of some ascetic monk flagellating his flesh on some windswept mountain peak, and how he serves as a model for us all; and janus will show you some Kierkegaard or some Emerson or some Twain...they and many other janus-heroes had much to say on this 'illusion' of the self -- and they had other things to say about others, others not their selves.

duality not only implies distinction; it is the necessary condition of its relevant meaning.  and by extension, singularity is all the more pronounced among the multitudes...especially for us sentient sort...the single individual...the cogito-ergoers among us.  e pluribus unium, as we say.

i don't mean to be contentious; it's just that it's an important point.

behold, the kingdom of heaven is within you,

janus 

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 16:53 | Link to Comment trader1
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touché

so many great philosophers. so many ideas to ponder.  if you're a fan of kierkegaard, then you may be interested in buber. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Buber#Dialogue_and_existence

i just discovered him today while doing my research.  

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 16:45 | Link to Comment trader1
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hi janus,

i have thought several times about what to say in a reply to you.  i'll keep this post brief ;-)

first, thank you for the kind words.  and, you're right.  i wasn't trying neither to criticize nor commend.  rather, i read what you wrote, and i was compelled to share that text i have bookmarked by alan watts.  

we are not who we are without relationships.

 

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 16:06 | Link to Comment Rafferty
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Janus, the scenario you depict for Tyler and his 'new friends'.  Well when I was in the US I saw almost the exact thing in real life. amazing similarities.  At that time though I was 'unawakened' and tought it to be sound advice.  In a sense it was of course.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 21:26 | Link to Comment essence
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If the Fed tapers by 10 to 15 billion, are we supposed to regard that as meaningful?

Seriously, a smallish, insignificant amount is nothing. Oh yeah, the MSM and Zerohedge will milk that for all it is worth, but in the scheme of things it is nothing.

I've a question,  why are all the Fed heads jewish?
Oops, did I say something inappropriate?
Jews = less than 2 percent of U.S. population.

Greenspan--jewish

Bernake--jewish

Yellen --jewish

Fisher --jewish and foreign national.

Just a coincidence?  Right.

Don't expect any credibility if you ignore an elephant in the room.

 

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 22:17 | Link to Comment Tim_
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United States Secretary of the Treasury

Jacob Joseph "Jack" Lew - jew

Neal Steven Wolin - jew

Stuart A. Levey - jew

Lawrence Henry "Larry" Summers - jew

Robert Edward Rubin - jew

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 02:18 | Link to Comment kurt
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Gesundheit
Fri, 12/13/2013 - 09:59 | Link to Comment SoilMyselfRotten
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Did he say 'Godless Jew'?

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 22:45 | Link to Comment kito
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Oh here we go again. Is this FRANCIS? what's the elephant essence? Please extrapolate. Is it that the joos are taking over the world? All of them? Are we Jews all in this together? Let's hear essence!!!

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 23:34 | Link to Comment essence
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I've addressed you before Kitco. You're a nothin muffin who comes along with snarky comments yet never once offers any firm opinions on anything (ZH readers, ...check Kitco's comment history to confirm my assertion)

The elephant in the room you ask .... all right, I'll state it loud and clear,

There's unwarranted jewish influence in the banking, media, corporate and government sectors in the US.of A.  It reeks of malfeasance in the the same way  building 7 came tumbling down in its footprint, in the same way the U.S. invaded Iraq over "weapons of mass destruction" yet none were ever found and the U.S. government NEVER acknowledged that none were ever found. It reeks the same way that Benhazi was never accounted for and it seems we're all to just forget about the stand down order and exactly who gave it.

And yeah, it seems we're to ignore that jews in the U.S. comprise less than 2 percent of the population and yet there's a running string of them heading the most powerful corporation on the planet.

Somethings not right and I am tired of those who pretend it doesn't exist because it isn't politically or financially expedient to acknowledge that reality.

 

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 23:41 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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I believe you and I will share many a drink in the FEMA camp. So be it.

cheers!

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 23:49 | Link to Comment essence
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I doubt it, for I've long since left the fascist states of 'merica.

gone galt

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 23:57 | Link to Comment kito
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No balls essence? No backbone? Couldn't stick it out and BE the positive change for America? You run away like your hero Simon black and then bitch about America from afar. You essence are the one that lacks credibility.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 00:08 | Link to Comment essence
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The way I see it, americans have two choices:
1) stay and fight, and I mean just that, real revolutionary war style fighting

2) get out of dodge and starve the beast

keep paying those taxes kito, and obamacare.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 00:49 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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It seems, given the "gone galt" reference, you're an Ayn Rand fan. Which, given your other posts...strikes me as...well...odd.

But I still appreciate your other posts.

Here's a little Any Rand moment worth viewing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uHSv1asFvU

And in order to fully grasp how utterly misinformed or racist she actually is in the comment towards the end of the video, I would point to the following:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg9fENkC1IA

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 06:39 | Link to Comment Weisshaupt
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Truth is where you find it, and is true regardless of the messenger. So, lets say Ayn Rand was a racist and "misinformed" on a great many subjects. Does it mean she is misinformed on all of them. Ad Hominem is a Fallacy.  You don't have to worship Ayn Rand or believe everything she says to find value in some things she does say, and I have noticed a prevalent reluctance on the part of many to engage her arguments on some subjects in any manner.  Going Galt is simply a term for dropping out of a system that no longer provides enough  benefit to warrant continuing.  Hauser's Law is basically proof of the phenomenon, but a simple thought experiment will prove it. How much overtime would you work if I taxed your overtime wages at 100%? at 90%?  It works the same with any commodity, including freedom, and it will happen regardless of how many people have read or even agree with  Ayn Rand. They drop out because its in their best interest, not because they think they are fighting some glorious stike to achieve a Randian Utopia. 

I have noticed that those who don't like Ayn Rand tend to also be those who prefer voting to hold government guns in peoples faces in order to  tell them what to buy, what to value and how to live, and in general believe  the collective has the right to sieze the lives of others as property of the state, to be used, sacrifcied or extingished for the common good.  They don't like Ayn Rand because she points out very clearly that they  are thieves and looters who have no right to do so, no matter how many times they repeat "Gemeinnutz geht vor eigennutz"

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 23:51 | Link to Comment essence
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duplicate to above

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 23:49 | Link to Comment kito
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Perhaps essence you should learn to read. It's KITO, not the precious metals site. Checking kitcos history will get you nowhere. Except last year's gold prices. You still haven't extrapolated essence. What the fuck is your point. Yes, there are lots of Jews in banking and the fed in relation to the population. Are we Jews part of a secret cabal? Do we run the world? Are Jews being secretly bred for this? What does it mean to be a Jew? Is it a religious thing, a cultural thing? Have you met a joo? Do they have horns or a secret handshake?

I've offered plenty of firm opinions, especially about small minded joo conspiracy theorists like you and your swamp mate Francis sawyer. So tell us, is it joo envy that drives you to the point of using an entire group/class of people as a scapegoat. Come on essence, do tell.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 05:49 | Link to Comment janus
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will you at the very least concede that, optimally, any member of any fed board be of single citizenship?  preferably US citizenship.

i know this may sound cwazy, conspirarcyish, and altogether antique in this 'new world' of ours, but, if you will allow for wild hypotheticals, there is the scant possibility...there is the remotest of theoretical potentialities...that the interests of israel and those of the US may not always intersect.  perish the thought, but, has it ever occurred to you, kito (did i nail the spelling?), that israel does not always place the interests of these united states over their own?  

not that the only theocracy in the region...wait a minute; what the fuck did i just say?  ooops!  dammit!  i meant to say: not that the only 'democracy' in the region doesn't actively undermine our objectives therein on a regular and duplicitous basis; not that jonathan pollard is a execrable and ignominious traitor (who WILL inhale the rest of every breath and expel his foul & feculent fog in levinworth (or wherever); not that there aren't dozens of other pollards so deserving; and not that we have any reason to doubt high-level governmental officials who divide their allegiances and swear to other oaths...this is, after all, the new world -- a very egalitarian place; only, for some far more egalitarian than for others.

i can assure you, kito, 'this' is not francis sawyer. 

i look forward to your response.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b6CYHLWnyg

janus is a real-american...not hyphenated, acronymed, amgalgamized or otherwize divided in allegiance.  

fight for the rights of every man (and destroy their enemies...i'm talkin to you, commies)

can't let it slide,

janus 

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 08:17 | Link to Comment kito
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Would you prefer u.s. citizenship for all fed members in order to more easily brandish them as traitors to their country? If so, I'm all for it.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 11:00 | Link to Comment janus
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in the near-term, i'm for the destruction of the fed...as to the jailing or whatever of its members, i could care less -- if the people demand retribution for the actions of puppets; so be it -- in revolutions, it's a terrible idea to stand in the way of frenzied 'justice' (you may get caught up in the melee).

in the mid-term, i'm for the decapitation of wire-pullers and sundry others doing the truly dastardly stuff.  not metaphorical decapitation, mind you...the very visceral kind.

in the long term, i have your people's interest at heart.  dark currents of severe anti-semitism are everywhere being stoked -- especially among the intelligentsia and the put-upon (dangerous admixture).  to try and purge it from these pages (or any others) is more than counterproductive.  and, to be fair, much of what is now considered anti-zionism has been effectively conflated with anti-semitism.

my zaniness goes so far as to insist that american jews be unambiguously america first.

that little plunder in palestine was our worst -- let me emphasize, OUR WORST and most lamentable experiment in all the annals of american foreign policy.  it has caused us nothing but grief...NOTHING!  goddamit.  i've had just about enough of it.  settle your own affairs, likud!  i could give two shits about your racist and statist bluster...back it up, bitchez!  well, at least try it without the assumed back-stop from uncle sam.  see how that works for ya.  you have only one friend, and you treat us like we're in some way obliged to you.  i/we are not.

you expect us to exchange cheap oil for your impregnable security?  fuck that.  try being a good neighbor...novel idea, i know.  but, my boys, your fairy-tale saga of diaspora, dating back two thousand years doesn't pass mustard...you're the new kids on the block...you are not entitled to every inch king david touched.  what's more, the truly original inhabitants of the region are still there -- the dna says as much.

yes, kick my family out of my house so that its 'rightful' (and racially vetted) residents can move it, and, well, you've got something of a vendetta on your hands.  

perhaps, as an anglo, i should swoop on down to fairfield, ct. and reclaim all that is rightfully mine from the hebrew usurpers...you know, as dictated by Manifest Destiny.  why is my myth any less valid than likud's?

my suggestion to american jews is to be american first and jewish only so far as it doesn't conflict with the american part....any of you jews not wise enough to recognize america as the promised land are offending moses and the whole notion of allegory.  the promised land is not a place limited by time and space...it's an idea -- and america is/was the best one going.  hell, uncle sam parted every color and climate of sea to secure your safe arrival...and this is our repayment; to say, with insolence, you (america) owe us forever for all our suffering; and so we will trick and cajole and double-cross to affect our ambition...the ends & means -- oh, what a tangled web they weave.

i find it interesting that israel forbids intermarriage.  strange for such a 'modern' state...not so strange for a theocracy.

yes, the anti-semitism is here to stay; so long as it's only confronted with sneering sound-bites and terse condescention.  an artful and elegant response would go much further...people aren't scared of name-calling and dismissive pomposity anymore.  and this, above all, should scare the shit outta zionists everywhere.

paranoia and its reinforcing effects are going to do you in, judah...if memory serves, it's happened often and with predictable regularity.  

every christian charity is for all; every jewish charity is for jews only...how does that look to a tolerant society when its most prosperous demographic structures its whole world view under the rubric of 'what's best for the jews'....most especially when what's best for 'jews' can't be so construed as to others, we the dirty goy.  

israel and what it represents to modern jewery is grave -- to say the least. israel is an emblem for all that is wrong with this paranoid group mentality.  but don't listen to me; listen to abe foxman...he's got your best interest at heart, i promise. 

try singing this shit at a football game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_9N1ldPtQ8

the whole fuckin wasteland looks just like bakersfield, ca; only, less verdant -- and i don't mean that as a compliment.

now for some purple-mountian MAJESTY!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yaetvTj5DE

tell me, zionists, which is the true promised land? (not necessarily you, kito)

till all success/

be nobleness/

oh, beautiful...,

He crowned His Good/

in Brotherhood/

from sea to shining sea (we have two -- massive ones -- btw),

janus

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 16:52 | Link to Comment Rafferty
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Kito, ayou might be interested in what I wrote here to a Jewish friend of long standing. I believe that Jews are blindly walking into the same problem that they have faced for millenia, and the outcome this time could be worse than ever before. I write as someone who was an extreme Judeophile until reacing a pretty senior position in the tech field at which point I began to see things with a different light. I became 'awakened'. I hope and pray that the worst won't happen but fear it will.

http://irishsavant.blogspot.ie/2013/10/a-message-to-my-friend-josh.html

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 23:40 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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No. You are not "all" in this together. It should be quite obvious that you have been excluded from that particular room in the club.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 11:08 | Link to Comment janus
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that's ever-so odd, alienIQ.  the time & date stamp on your post was several hours before i posted my comment...i reckon the T&D stamp is assigned to the place posted...otherwise wierd shit is afoot.

i'm assuming you live in hawaii or some place very close to the time-reset line...way, way out west -- where it magically becomes 'east'.  that, or you really do have some sorta alienIQ.  must be sweet, tinkinging with the fifth dimension and all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5iOiLX5ppA

that weren't no dj/

that was hazy cosmic jive,

janus

 

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 23:20 | Link to Comment Tim_
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“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."


Joseph Stalin's Reply to an Inquiry of the Jewish News Agency in the United States

"In the U.S.S.R. anti-semitism is punishable with the utmost severity of the law as a phenomenon deeply hostile to the Soviet system."

"Under U.S.S.R. law active anti-semites are liable to the death penalty."

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 23:19 | Link to Comment shutdown
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The Bible says Jews are God's chosen people. For that reason Jews need to be in charge of everything important. Everybody knows this. Sheesh.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 02:15 | Link to Comment kurt
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So, like if they are in charge of everything, are they also to blame? Now that's just redickulouous.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 23:36 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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Your next task should be to find out and share who controls over 90% of all media in the US. I'm pretty sure that will explain why the facts that you posted will never see the light of day on 90% of the media in the US.

But I suspect you are already well aware of this.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 02:11 | Link to Comment kurt
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What is dis, de make jewish foundation? I jewish we could all just get along. I maka 'de pizza...

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 21:21 | Link to Comment Ban KKiller
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Not an exact science? I am shocked. Politics, aka, money, drives decisions? Goodness!

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 21:25 | Link to Comment sangell
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The Fed creates a housing ( or stock market) bubble. Banks lend against inflated collateral. Dr. Bernanke is also responsible for the banking system. He is now a prisoner of his earlier policy. He has created his own political pressure. He's on a tightrope and going forward his is only option as he can't climb down.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 21:24 | Link to Comment q99x2
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Why does Nancy Pelosi want to look like Michael Jackson?

Because she is sick that's why.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 21:54 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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The Bank of International Settlements doesn't like President Jacob Zuma.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 22:27 | Link to Comment Yes_Questions
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I am beginning to see how competence over at the Marriner Eccles building may be less important that loyalties.

 

However distasteful its role conjuring Dollar$ into existence first for the use of those well heeled and close to the spigot, I could not accept they were incompetent, I guess because all of the conditions that must be met before each conditional act of CNTL P.

 

But, seems they need to be just smart enough to carry water for some seriously depraved and well positioned policy makers.

 

The FED is a tool, Mr. Beale.

 

And I overestimated its place in the pyramid.

 

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 22:32 | Link to Comment alfred b.
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      I trust the Fed...just look at all the 'fantasy living' it has brought us, and the prez is not a liar, of course?

      Got to have a bit of humor!

 

 

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 22:43 | Link to Comment Randoom Thought
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What/Who is behind the Fed's decision?

Ephesians 6:12

It is difficult to underestimate our ignorance an pride.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 22:48 | Link to Comment fijisailor
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Didn't we already know this?  QE is driven by greed and not by logical thinking.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 23:34 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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Yes, it is true that QE is driven by greed. But it is also of value to identify precisely who's greed it is that is driving it. For the answer to that, we need only identify who has benefited most. Or to put it more simply: Qui bono?

Follow the money...

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 08:33 | Link to Comment shovelhead
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QE may be other things as well, but I suggest it is primarily a disguised survival mechanism.

A reverse chemotherapy that kills healthy cells to preserve the malignancy.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 23:32 | Link to Comment gsh1976
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Plosser is another Fed head that has been critical.  Last year he questioned the effectiveness of quantitative easing and if I am not mistaken he also suggested that congress should place limits on what the Fed can undertake earlier this year.  Of course nothing ever came of it.  

If anybody is interested Plosser and Hillsenrath will be at the University of Delaware on February 11th for a free seminar.  Last year there was a question and answer portion at the end.  If the format is the same this year I think I might have to ask Hillsenrath about his uncanny ability to come out with stories shortly before 4 on the days the market is weak.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 00:17 | Link to Comment Ned Zeppelin
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The forces that guide the Fed's dangerous policies are characterized as "political" in an effort to obscure the fact that the forces ln the Fed are not based in political parties or ideology. No, the "forces" are the banker cabal and its servants. Simple as that. Those who think Obama tells Bernanke what to do afe wrong. They both work for the real bosses.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 00:16 | Link to Comment Vooter
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"I would argue that the time to reassume a more humble central banker persona is upon us."

I would argue that the time to THROW THEM ALL INTO A FUCKING GAS CHAMBER is upon us.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 01:54 | Link to Comment Decimus Lunius ...
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Jebus Christ, all this shit is fucking made up.  We apply scientific methods and build mathematic models and devise algorithims and go on TV to deliver vague prognostications and then either the herd does what is predicted or it doesn't because sometimes the herd runs off the cliff and sometimes Wolverine stops it.  I figure Jebus himself will return before folks find out that central banks serve only their constituent banks.  Hell, I figure every possible universe will happen before folks realize that governments act only in their self interest and that of their owners.  

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 10:08 | Link to Comment Atticus Finch
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What do you mean, WE?

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 02:07 | Link to Comment kurt
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Obtuse wordy convoluted off-putting with internecine spice, "Full Ahead Stop, Captain!" Blurt. Puuuurfect Smithers.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 08:15 | Link to Comment Pumpkin
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The Fed is really very good at what it does.  What it does is what people seems to be completely confused about.

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