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US-Backed Syrian "Rebel" Commander Chased Out Of Country By Al Qaeda

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Syria may be old news as any escalation has been put on hold at least until next summer, but the hilarity resulting from the bungled US foreign policy intervention in the country lingers. The latest chapter in John Kerry's book of "Diplomacy for Idiots" is the case of General Salim Adris, a so-called moderate the top Western-backed commander of the Free Syrian Army, who was literally run out of the country by the more extremist, Al Qaeda based factions among the Syrian CIA armed and Qatar funded "rebel" forces.

As the WSJ eloquently puts it, "Islamist fighters ran the top Western-backed rebel commander in Syria out of his headquarters, and he fled the country, U.S. officials said Wednesday." Any references to brave Sir Robin are purely accidental. It got better when the same Al Qaeda fighters "took over key warehouses holding U.S. military gear for moderate fighters in northern Syria over the weekend." In other words, as we repeatedly forecast over the summer, the US is now once again arming Al Qaeda fighters with weapons that sooner or later will be used against the US, at a time of the CIA's choosing.

As for the details of "patriotic" Gen. Idris' humiliating departure from Syria, and the even more humiliating raid of US military gear, we read on from the WSJ:

Gen. Idris flew to the Qatari capital of Doha on Sunday after fleeing to Turkey, U.S. officials said Wednesday. "He fled as a result of the Islamic Front taking over his headquarters," a senior U.S. official said.


An Islamic Front spokesman also said Gen. Idris had fled to Turkey.


The Front took over the warehouses and offices controlled by the Supreme Military Council, the moderate opposition umbrella group that includes the FSA and coordinates U.S. aid distribution, officials said. They also seized the Bab al-Hawa border crossing with Turkey, near the warehouses in the town of Atmeh.

Another bang up job by the State Department:

The growing strength of the Islamic Front prompted the U.S. and its allies to recently hold direct talks with Islamic Front representatives. The goal, according to Western officials, was to persuade some Islamists to support a Syria peace conference set for Geneva on Jan. 22 for fear that a lasting accord won't be possible without their backing. The SMC already agreed to participate in the peace talks.

A quick primer on how brave the US "loyalists" in Syria are to both the cause, and to US equipment:

U.S. officials say there was no battle for control of the facilities between the SMC and the Islamic Front. One senior U.S. official said the takeover amounted to "an internal coup." But other U.S. officials disputed that characterization.


U.S. officials said the Islamic Front offered to help protect the headquarters and two warehouse facilities from harder line groups. Then, when the Islamic Front came in and helped secure the sites, "they asserted themselves and said: 'All right, we're taking over,' " a senior U.S. official said.

In other words, one rebel faction essentially handed over US weapons to another rebel faction. Just add spin. Not surprisingly, the CIA had no comment:

The Central Intelligence Agency has been providing small amounts of arms to handpicked moderate rebels. A CIA spokesperson declined to comment on whether American weapons were in the warehouses that were seized by the Islamic Front. Gen. Idris also receives weapons from other countries, including Saudi Arabia.


The warehouses also housed nonlethal military gear, including American-supplied trucks and communications equipment.

Bottom line: the US, which nearly launched World War III over a few fabricated Youtube clips in order to help Qatar build a natgas pipeline to Europe support the much lauded freedom fighters, has just cut off aid to the very same group:

The U.S. decision to suspend the delivery of nonlethal aid to rebels in northern Syria is another blow to American efforts to strengthen and unify insurgents fighting Bashar al-Assad, analysts say.


The State Department said Wednesday it made the decision after Islamist groups within the opposition captured a warehouse and headquarters of the mainstream opposition alliance backed United States.


The decision reflects the challenge the United States has in supporting a fractured opposition where extremist groups are gaining an edge over moderates.


"There is simply no way to separate the two," said Michael Rubin, an analyst at the American Enterprise Institute.

Somewhere Putin is laughing his ass off.


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Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:01 | 4239434 hedgeless_horseman
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Bottom line: the US, which nearly launched World War III over a few fabricated Youtube clips in order to help Qatar build a natgas pipeline to Europe support the much lauded freedom fighters, has just cut off aid to the very same group:

Same as it ever was.  Why are we 12 years into occupying Afghanistan?

China just dethroned the U.S. as the world’s largest importer of oil.

The REAL Reason for the longest war in American history?

Otherwise, it is a long way by sea, through a couple of narrow
straits that can easily be defended with a couple of carrier groups.

We damn sure did not invade a soverign nation, Afghanistan, and are
still occupying it after more than 12 years, because a now deceased
Saudi Arabian was hiding there.  Did we invade Pakistan when this very
same Saudi Arabian was allegedly hiding out there?  No.  That wouldn't
make sense, would it?  Allegedly, we sent a SEAL team into the sovereign
nation of Pakistan to kill Osama, not capture him, eventhough he was
unarmed and out numbered, then we immediately dumped his body into the
ocean instead of questioning this terrorist mastermind about future
terrorist attacks.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:28 | 4239553 dick cheneys ghost
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fan of Pepe I see...........

here is his latest on SChina sea

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 12:10 | 4239710 Canadian Dirtlump
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The reports I had seen is that Idriss the fat cross eyed feckless retard was already in Turkey. Whatever influence he ever had even with his own people is gone, but to the meat of the story, whatever existed of a moderate, actual syrian "FSA" is long gone.


Many of the brigades have dropped their arms or switched sides under an amnesty law. Many other brigades have switched to becoming bandits and smuggling, kidnapping for profit,and running wildcat checkpoint tollbooths.


Given this was started essentially by Robert Ford ( former ambassador from the US ) and his merry band of foreign death squads, it never really was a civil war. The funny thing the mongoloid press misses ( or rather lies about ) is - it isn't even sectarian in the sense of sunni shia. On the foreign US / Saudi / Israeli backed side you have radical wahhabi / salafi / takfiri wacko sunni muslims, and on the Syria side you have a majority of moderate sunni, shiite, christian and other smatterings. Many boil it down to the small alawite population ruling with an iron fist, when Assad himself isn't particularly religious, and his SUNNI wife is raising their children in that regard.


Either way, as was said in June after Qusayer fell, it is now a rolling collapse. A day doesn't go by that huge arms caches aren't seized or destroyed by the SAA, or a command and control center isn't smashed. THe AL Quaeda wester backed savages at this point are resorting to the only thing they are good at. HIt and run type attacks at smaller chckpoints, or simple terror operations against military and increasingly just civilian targets.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 12:22 | 4239770 Buckaroo Banzai
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"...and increasingly just civilian targets."

aka, murdering/kidnapping/raping Christians.

It's a shame that the Federal Government has become riddled with Muslim Brotherhood operatives. You would expect it from Obama, but the horrifying truth is they really got going under Bush Jr.

Meanwhile, the "religion of peace" just keeps slaughtering Christians, because that's what peaceful, tolerant people do, and nobody in the US media or government seems to give a flying fuck.

Gee I wonder why that is.


Thu, 12/12/2013 - 12:57 | 4239862 Canadian Dirtlump
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The most dangerous islam is the overtly political bronze age wahhabism which is dealt by saudi arabia, and the overtly political and barbarous type practiced by the brotherhood as you say. On the otherhand, you have Secular Syria, majority of which is Sunni, which up until the west's meddling occured was peaceful - with as many as 20 different religious sects. As Assad has said Political islam, the aforementioned virulent variants being the gold star examples, is the enemy. Sadly, disgustingly, it is the very kind that western governments support, ally with and assist.


In fact, its roots are from the early 1900s, with the west's fingerprints all over it.


I agree that the radical Sunnis are massacring christians, however they are massacring alawites, druze, moderate sunnis, and shias ( many of whom like christians are simply executed) as well. Based on numbers alone, I would have to say that more sunnis have died at the hands of radical foreign sunnis than anyone, especially given the sunni population make up the largest portion of the army as well.


edit - as a reminder to those who know, and a revelation to those who don't BAshar As-Assad's father, Hafez fucked up the brotherhood good in the 1980s when they tried to do what the west is trying to do now. Here is his speech to  as he says his beloved citizesn ( ALL ) about these radical pieces of shit. It is scary that what he said in 1982 is exactly what is going on with a rubber stamp by every fucking western government.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 13:12 | 4240026 Ghordius
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Buckaroo, all major religions are "religions of peace". and all religions have been used by thugs to justify atrocities. meanwhile your emotional reaction to "someone is killing/raping Christians" - including a touch of dehumanization of them - is exactly the button that some people and media try to push

we. are. all. humans

if a Jew murders a Muslim, it's the same as if a Muslim murders a Christian, it's the same if a Christian murders a Jew

please, don't let warmongers play with your psyche

and this includes Bush Jr.'s speeches where he talked positively about Crusades and Crusaders, which is the equivalent of a Middle Easterner talking positively of Jihad or the Jewish Final Solution

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 13:55 | 4240264 Buckaroo Banzai
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Bullshit. Try reading the Koran. The first half is all flowery nice sounding stuff. The second half is all kill the infidel, rape his women, show no mercy to the enemies of Islam, convert them at swordpoint or kill them.

The problem is, according to Islamic scholars, whatever Mohammed said last is the stuff that counts.


Thu, 12/12/2013 - 14:12 | 4240319 Son of Captain Nemo
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So please "do tell", where the benevolent and compassionate Old ("eye for an eye") and New ("turn the other cheek";-) Testament(s) weighs in with that "second half" of the Koran that you speak of?

Quite frankly it's the "turn the other cheek" crowd that are and always have been the most treacherous with regard to words and deeds.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 17:10 | 4240963 Buckaroo Banzai
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It's always easy to spot someone who doesn't understand the first fucking thing about Christianity, because they always start with the Old Testament.

It is absolutely fundamental that God's relationship with man evolved over the centuries via the different covenants. God would make a deal with man, and man would break it. Then God would make another deal, and man would break it. The New Testament is God's most recent deal with man, He sacrificed His own Son to make our sins clean. All we have to do is accept that, and obey a few fucking commandments.

Looks like we're gonna fuck up this deal as well.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 14:29 | 4240344 Canadian Dirtlump
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the quran is not in order. The surahs are as far as I know in order of roughly longest to shortest. If you've read it and know I find it curious that you don't clarify this as you say first half, last half. The trouble, and where the radical shit happens is with interpretations of hadiths, and using bogus hadiths.


Hadiths for those that don't know would be like " Joey knew mohammed and when this problem came up joey said mohammed said that you do this." Things get really murky there.


While the concept of abrogation is troubling - I agree, although again your description sounds more like someone who is passing on something he heard in a youtube video, The simple fact is that there is ample evidence that millions of muslims can live together peacefully ( even as the dominant religion ) in a country. Syria is a gold star example of that.


The second the west stops supporting radical islam it will be gone shortly thereafter. A strong secular national identity in syria has done more to battle radical islam than the bogus war on terror has. 


p.s to be clear, I'm a 39 year old red neck honky who was raised catholic so I'm no CAIR member.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 15:29 | 4240598 Ghordius
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I did read the Q and I could not have written your comment better

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 16:27 | 4240788 Canadian Dirtlump
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with respect to the slaughter of christians in syria. as we speak there is a battle going on in a place called 'ADRAA. Yesterday the wahhabite ( fake sunnis) pychos massacred 200 civilians. 15 were alawite / druze. The balance were... Sunni. These radicals live in their own ideological oasis of poison.


Again, syria being an example, hundreds of thousands of sunnis are fighting, and dying to protect every syrian, be they christian, secular humanist, spaghetti monster follower.


for those interested is the place to go for updates.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 17:03 | 4240939 Buckaroo Banzai
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Forget the order in which they are arranged in the Koran. IT's the timeline that is important. When I say first half, I mean the first half of Mohammed's career as a prophet. When I say second half, I mean the second half of his career.

What he said last is what counts.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 19:13 | 4241459 Going Loco
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@Canadian Dirtlump - Do you realise you are now on The List? They don't like people using their prophet's name like you have, and they don't like people telling it like it is. They particularly do NOT like anyone pointing out that half their religion is based on the Hadiths which would be disallowed as hearsay in any half-decent law court. 

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 14:50 | 4240443 Canucklehead
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Mohammad took his playbook from Constantine.

Look into Constantine's later years and you will find the playbook of a mohammadian dictator.  Constantine wanted to be remembered as the neo-Christ, with the relics of the 12 apostles arranged in a circle with his burial site at the centre.  Mohammad saw himself as another Christ, in much the same manner as Constantine did.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 15:35 | 4240631 A. Magnus
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Oh, like 'Christian' cunts DIDN'T kill millions of Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia over the past decade or two.

Not to mention the great 'Christian' regimes in 1930s Germany and Italy. Oops - forgot about the Crusades, fucking bloodthirsty pieces of shit those asshole knights were. Oh, and the tens of millions of indigenous people the fucking murderous cunt bastard 'Christians' exterminated in the Americas, Africa and Asia over the past couple hundred years.

SHUT THE FUCK UP, you whiny little bitch. Somebody gives your lily white ass a taste of payback for all the bullshit your culture has done around the globe and you act like your menstrual flow is in full effect. Pop a Midol and simmer down...

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 16:09 | 4240723 Canucklehead
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The Crusades were the result of the Muslims "shutting down the TV stations" of the Christian world.  Back then, pilgrimages were the thing.  People had been travelling to the holy sites for hundreds of years before Islam was born.  After a few hundred years of Muslim rule, and the deteriorating relations in the Middle East, the Muslim Overlords decided "No more Pilgrimage for You" and shut down the pilgrimage routes.  Prior to the shut down the amount of death and distruction meted out to the pilgrims by Muslim highwaymen was legendary.

The Crusades were an attempt to mete out justice and make the world a better place.

Judging from the tone of your response, are you an "Infidel-o-phobe"?

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 17:14 | 4240980 Buckaroo Banzai
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If you think Adolph Hitler and Mussolini were Christian, you are just about the stupidest person I've ever encountered at ZeroHedge.

I guess I'd rather be a whiny little bitch, than a rock-stupid ignoramus of a whiny little bitch.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 23:41 | 4242250 gallistic
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Brief, succint, and absolutely correct; I concur completely.



Fri, 12/13/2013 - 00:05 | 4241773 gallistic
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"keeps slaughtering Christians"

Fuck every last Christian in the ass with Saint Peter's little dick!

Keeps slaughtering human beings....


Thu, 12/12/2013 - 12:48 | 4239909 Karl von Bahnhof
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DCH Ghost,

just found interesting geopolitical blog from this guy:


Very informative.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 12:58 | 4239959 QQQBall
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Its Putin's fault

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 13:34 | 4240168 Frostfan1
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I was never a fan of the pipeline theory. Too many entities in play for the us to get involved and protect and for what. Better flow of goods between Iran and China????? What the fuck or how does that benefit us and Israel?????? Even more hypocritically, if the us and blew up that existing pipeline, zerohedge followers obsessed with blaming us and Israel for everything would blame CIA and Mossad for blowing it up to help us and Israel.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 13:38 | 4240183 hedgeless_horseman
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Too many entities in play for the us to get involved and protect and for
what. Better flow of goods between Iran and China?????

Not protect.  Prevent.  Cock block.

Otherwise, it is a long way by sea, through a couple of narrow
straits that can easily be defended with a couple of carrier groups.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 15:31 | 4240620 Ghordius
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In the same way as Russia blocks the pipeline from Quatar to europe: Syria

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 14:51 | 4240448 Crash Overide
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Pretty sure the oil and pipelines have something to do with it...

I was wondering is this weapons warehouse in Syria is kind of like the one in Benghazi?

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:03 | 4239465 GetZeeGold
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China just dethroned the U.S. as the world’s largest importer of oil.


They'd better be paying for that oil in dollars!

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:31 | 4239578 XAU XAG
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Now  you know why China wants all that gold.


Iran will not want $$$$ will she!

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:39 | 4239600 Freddie
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This CS'er and the Saudi Al Qeada pals are friends with RINOs McCain, Graham, Obama, Schumer and some other scum in Congress.  I hope Putin and the Syrian Army smash this criminal scum.  How many innocent people have  this criminal Al Qeada scum killed in Syria?   Pipeistan indeed.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:20 | 4239529 chubbar
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The question I have is which rebel group got the sarin gas stockpile they used in Aleppo?

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:48 | 4239635 Freddie
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Funny how that chemical weapons story died.   Seymour Hersh wrote that the whole story was a lie and the chemical weapons was used by Al CEE EYE AAA Duh criminal stooges for the Saudis.   Murders.  I hope Putin slaps the shit out of them.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 12:03 | 4239676 Patriot Eke
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You'd have to ask the intelligence services that helped smuggle it in from Turkey.  Never forget that one shipment was stopped.  How many did not?

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 12:29 | 4239803 MarsInScorpio
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Re: Pipelineistan map




This is one of those "in your face" observations that should be easily seen, but for some reason, isn't.


Thank you for taking time to post this. Now to get the rest of America on board . . .


Thu, 12/12/2013 - 15:30 | 4240616 tip e. canoe
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ding dong, the witch is dead.  hey look over there!

(never gets old...until it does...)

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:03 | 4239460 GetZeeGold
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Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:03 | 4239477 TheFreeLance
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Remember, this all went down just as Hagel stopped off in Qatar. A bigger FU the Houses of Thani and Saud could not have delivered to Obama and the US. And of course the US media snoozes right thru it.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:04 | 4239482 “Rebellion to t...
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The CIA is the largest, best funded terrorist organization in the history of the world.  

The CIA, along with its sister, the NSA, have limitless tools to humiliate, extort, spy, blackmail, kidnap, incarcerate, torture, and lastly, kill any and all who get in its way.

All of this is done under the false pretense of protecting the homeland.

In reality, these psychopaths use terror as a means to empower themselves and control the populace.  

Politicians, industrialists, crony capitalists, Supreme Court Justices, etc., are simply very well compensated pawns knowing full well who is firmly in control.


Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:16 | 4239514 Colonel Klink
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Homeland = Motherland = Fatherland = Rally the population with nationalistic propaganda

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:27 | 4239550 Rory_Breaker
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That's not your land!

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 12:11 | 4239716 Colonel Klink
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Nope, it's now been coopted by another small nation.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 12:36 | 4239833 Buckaroo Banzai
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Yes. It's called the City of London.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 13:15 | 4240053 Ghordius
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and her big sister, Wall Street

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 15:29 | 4240612 tip e. canoe
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that's like quibbling over whether Kim or Khloe is the "big" sister.

c'mon G, you can do better than that ;~)

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 13:18 | 4240072 Colonel Klink
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Never said where it was at!  And actually the City proper is considered seperate!

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 12:15 | 4239733 CuttingEdge
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Fascism USA

14 key points - how many ring (alarm) bells with ZH regulars?

#6, #7 and #9 for starters...

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 12:49 | 4239902 WTFUD
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Yes Siree and the icing on the cake is they stay ANONYMOUS!!! Bastards

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 13:41 | 4240190 Emergency Ward
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That's okay because they have the Obamas, Bushes and Clintons of the world who love to press the LAUNCH buttons and revel playing the role of "Fearless Punisher and Far-Seeing Leader".

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 14:54 | 4240468 Crash Overide
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The old bloodlines will not survive this round, they have gone too far.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 21:39 | 4241875 gallistic
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Rebellion, you are correct, of course. +1

Here is a severely curtailed and truncated listing of CIA exploits.

Enjoy sheeple...

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:06 | 4239488 Money 4 Nothing
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BoA checks bounced?

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:08 | 4239490 Yes We Can. But...
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We're paying this man, let's put him in charge of fixing the ObamaCare website.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:09 | 4239495 Gringo Viejo
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"That's enough music for now." LMAO

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:09 | 4239497 ShrNfr
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Yes, the general's advance on Turkey and sucessful campaign that brought his triumphal entrance into Doha will be long remembered as one of the sucess stories of the Obama administration.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:08 | 4239498 WTFUD
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Mayday mayday come in group leader.
Copy commander, yes we have no bananas
repeat no bananas, mayday.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:10 | 4239499 USA USA
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WOW! Who coulda seen this coming?

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:27 | 4239548 Rory_Breaker
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Certeainly not John Kerry!

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:14 | 4239508 gafgroocK
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Wish we could do that!

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:35 | 4239586 XAU XAG
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You did not build that!

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:17 | 4239520 OwnSilverPlayMusic
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Who could have seen this coming?? Oh yeah, everyone except the warmongering psychopaths in DC, Paris, London and Riyadh.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:18 | 4239523 Azannoth
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Oh so this was the "Real" Al-Queda that chased him out, or was this the "Fake" CiA sponsored Al-Queda or some hardline arm of Al-Qiuda? Or was it just the Judean Peoples Front .. uh I mean the Peoples Front of Judea

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:27 | 4239558 Rory_Breaker
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Don't they have the same paymaster?

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:18 | 4239528 youngman
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That sure makes Kerry look stupid.....oops guess not..he already is...big miss boys..big miss...great foreign

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 12:31 | 4239819 Freddie
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Kerry?  Oh you mean John Kohn.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:22 | 4239535 DOT
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But, but, but, there was a red line on our map! No one can cross a red line!

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:27 | 4239562 virgilcaine
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Run away!

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:49 | 4239589 PowerPlayer
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I thought Al-Qaeda were the US backed rebels, so how could Al-Qaeda sack the US backed rebels.  The lies never stop.  

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 12:51 | 4239923 Tall Tom
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Well Al Qaeda are also US Backed Rebels. They just happened to attack the Free Syrian Army, also US Backed Rebels, back in September.


With three factions fighting for control of Syria (The Free Syrian Army, Al Qaeda, and the Assad Regime Loyalists) then Syria would be in constant turmoil so that the Pipeline cannot be constructed.


Damn!!! This is a set back. Now Al Qaeda might gain the upper hand. Now we are going to have to arm and fund Assad. Shit. Maybe Putin can do that for us if we slip him the cash. You know? Keeping up appearances and all that political posturing crap?


It is just all a game...WITH LETHAL CONSEQUENCES.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 13:01 | 4239967 QQQBall
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Well Al Qaeda are also US Backed Rebels. They just happened to attack the Free Syrian Army, also US Backed Rebels, back in September.


So its a win for Obomber

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 13:24 | 4240110 the grateful un...
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relax PowerPlayer, we'll just be writing two checks each month instead of one.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 11:41 | 4239613 mess nonster
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Assad makes steady progress in his war against the CIA and Israel. If he wins, there will be a serious shift in the power structure of the middle east.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 14:37 | 4240409 Canucklehead
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You are looking at things through rose colored glasses.  If there is a hickup in Sochi, Saudi Arabia is the target.  There will be multiple ways of building pressure for regime change in Saudi Arabia.  Syria has a role in this.

Any hickup will have Russia sabre rattling.  Their obvious move will be a move toward Saudi Arabia that will be delayed by global diplomacy.  This will be a holding action.  The real move will come in Syria first.  Defeat of the Islamist rebels will drive them back to Saudi Arabia and Qatar.  (Turkey won't keep them around and they have no other friends.)  The arrival of the Islamist remanants will escalate internal pressures within Saudi Arabia while analysis of any Sochi hickup will find Saudi fingers all over it.  (Same as 9-11.)

China, while having played the good cop managing the global diplomatic action to stall the Russians et al from doing damage to Saudi Arabia will change sides when proper agreements have been arrived at on how to divide up the spoils of Saudi Arabia.  Russia and China will have to move quickly to secure the oil infrastructure within Saudi Arabia.  I suspect the US and Europe will join them in a move coordinated through a "coalition of the thinking".  The flow of oil will be tantamount and with coordination between Russia, China, USA, and Europe, the Saudis will have to accept the new landlords.

Israel will be sitting at the sidelines watching this all unfold... same as both Gulf Wars.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 12:24 | 4239777 Herdee
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And I might add to the work of Tyler that the U.S. Government Agency that controls the drug trade coming out of Afganistan is also playing a large role because they use billions of dollars from trafficking to corrupt,bribe and infiltrate foreign governments in the region.Don't forget,U.S. foreign policy and the influence from it in order to control world economics trumps all else.Its only mission is to keep the world reserve currency in order to keep the global ponzi going.All in the name of "exceptionalism".I believe it was the President of Equador who recently commented " This sounds like something coming out of the Nazi era in Germany"

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 12:39 | 4239865 Buckaroo Banzai
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The whole idea of "American Exceptionalism" was to get away from corrupt shit like this. Just because we've been hijacked by psychotic fucksticks doesn't mean the dream is dead-- yet. Don't confuse the government with the nation.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 21:46 | 4241890 gallistic
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No Jackass, American Exceptionalism has always been a ridiculous subterfuge for morally reprehensible actions to exploit and gain.

Read your fucking history and get it right.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 12:39 | 4239834 Tall Tom
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Damn!!! Now Al Qaeda is getting too strong. Now we are going to have to find an excuse, or a way, to beef up and arm Al Assad's Troops.


We have to keep Syria in turmoil in order to ensure that the damned pipeline is not built. (Maybe we can also do that by proxy and slip Putin some Black Ops Cashola so it can seem like that he, and Russia, is doing the "Dirty Deed".)



Thu, 12/12/2013 - 12:53 | 4239927 QQQBall
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Wonder what was in the two warehouses?

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 13:22 | 4240096 the grateful un...
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boy this has a lot of possibilities, first being the US absolves itself of the claim they were arming Al Qaeda, secondly the CIA can now create an opposition government to the Assad regime in exile, and fund and arm that group, for mostly propaganda purposes. third it gives them a reason to keep arming Al Qaeda in order to justify supporting the government in absentia, (they need to win a sham election of other Syrian exiles) but as long as the money flows to the Taliban, (as H Karzai says it does) and it makes its way east, that should work out. (and we can blame Iran if we get caught) its all good news really because it proves the US government is doing what its always done, and not making any radical foreign policy shift. i feel much better now knowing all this

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 13:50 | 4240234 MrBoompi
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When you have to lie for a living, you better make up good lies.  Because when you don't you look pretty fucking stupid to the entire world.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 15:19 | 4240563 sunkeye
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hedgeless_horseman's leadoff thread comment = ZH post of the decade.

Eye opener deluxe. Love you Love ZH Happy holiday season to all.

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 15:35 | 4240632 tip e. canoe
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twas like a sharp knife thru warm butter for sure

luvs to ya back

Thu, 12/12/2013 - 15:27 | 4240596 marcusfenix
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so, what many saw and talked about a year ago has now come to pass. that being it didn't matter how much "non lethal" aid was sent nor how many small arms or ATGM's were provided to the terrorists, the war was lost when operation Damascus volcano failed spectacularly and the Syrian armed forces remained largely loyal and did not fracture as was hoped.after that it was only a matter of time before the superior firepower, organization, funding, training and equipment of SAA would wear the thousand or so different groups bumping around Syria down. 

of course the final death bow to this whole miserable cluster was when the false flag chem attack failed to give DC and other interested parties the excuse they needed to go in and bail there minions out. I think Putin had a lot to do with that as I doubt almost the entire black sea fleet was in the med just to enjoy the scenery, actions speak louder that words and in this case it was message clearly sent, message clearly received and inescapably understood.

now that DC has pulled the plug on funding these cannibal, head chopping terrorists the end result is a done deal. Assad, with more than just a little help from Moscow will stay in power. Assad won the PR war over the west, the Syrian military is winning the ground war and now many of the FSA defectors are switching back to the side of the government. If I was one of those Al-ciada meatbags hanging around Aleppo, I would seriously consider pulling up stakes and getting the hell out of dodge before to much longer.   

it's really kind of historical moment, Assad is the first "bad guy of convenience" for DC to have gone 12 rounds with the regime change machine and come out on top. 

of course it doesn't hurt to have big brother bear in your corner...       

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