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China's Colonization Of London Hits Ludicrous Speed, And Now: It's Detroit's Turn

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Earlier today, Brits were greeted with some good news: London house prices rose to a record in November, "as strengthening demand pushed values higher in all regions of England and Wales" according to Acadametrics. Bloomberg reported that values increased 0.6 percent from October to an average 238,839 pounds ($390,900), and that prices reached an all-time high in London, soaring 9.2% in the quarter, and parts of the southeast as average values climbed 4.9 percent from a year ago. "The trajectory is clearly upward," said David Brown, commercial director of LSL Property Services. "Competition is strong as a result of rising demand and supply of new instructions not growing, a factor that will continue to prop up prices in the long term." As usual, much was left unsaid, such as where demand is coming from. The answer, as is the case virtually everywhere else in the world, is simple: China.

According to another Bloomberg report citing Jones Lang LaSalle, Chinese investment in London between 2010 and Q3 of this year has risen by a "ludicrous speed" comparable 1,500%, or from a frugal GBP54 million to over GBP 1 billion! And boy do the Chinese love London - according to the same report, over 50% of European property investment by Chinese buyers is now in London.  As a result, China is now the third-largest overseas purchaser in U.K. behind Germany and U.S., which invested GBP 1.2 billion and GBP 1.1 billion respectively. "We expect the pool of investors from China targeting London to grow significantly in the coming years. They will consider everything from urban regeneration sites through to trophy assets," Damian Corbett, JLL’s head of Central London office investment, said in statement.

In other words, as London real estate becomes ever more unaffordable to orinary UK citizens, who instead are forced to rent out shipping containers, Chinese buyers will buy pretty much anything in the UK, with no regard for cost, since ever more of that ~$200 billion in monthly credit created by the government, which as we showed before... 

... blows both the Fed and BOJ money creation out of the water, is parked outside of China, which is aggressively trying to stop its own domestic housing bubble, and in the process blowing housing bubbles everywhere else around the world.

Which brings us to point number two: the latest target of the Chinese hot money colonization is none other than bankrupt Detroit.

Forbes explains:

Detroit, broke with almost no prospects for recovery, is the fourth most popular U.S. destination for Chinese real estate investors.  In fact, it was bad news—the city’s July 18 bankruptcy filing—that triggered renewed interest.  “While the bankruptcy is viewed as a bad thing elsewhere, it raised the exposure level of Detroit’s real estate market in China,” says Evonne Xu, a Michigan attorney catering to Chinese purchasers.  Middle Kingdom, meet Motown.

 

Chinese shoppers can’t resist a bargain.  Where else can you buy a two-story home in the U.S. for $39?  China Central Television, the state broadcaster, in March reported that two houses in Detroit cost the same as a pair of leather shoes.  No wonder a poster on Sina Weibo, the Twitter-like service, asked, “Seven-hundred thousand people, quiet, clean air, no pollution, democracy—what are you waiting for?”

 

Who says the Chinese are waiting?  Dongdu International Group of Shanghai bought, sight unseen, two downtown icons, the David Stott building for $4.2 million and the Detroit Free Press building for $9.4 million, both at auction this September.

 

Moreover, Chinese purchasers are making bulk purchases of “inexpensive properties”—those selling for $25,000 or less—in the rings surrounding the city center.  “They’re banking on the downtown resurgence spiraling out into those rings,” explains Kelly Sweeney of Coldwell Banker Weir Manuel.  Mainland parties often buy at tax and foreclosure sales, hold their property, and patiently wait for appreciation.

 

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The Chinese are coming, but what are they doing?  Dongdu International will make a big contribution to downtown by redeveloping the Detroit Free Press building, turning it into a retail and residential complex, but that ambitious plan appears to be the exception.  China’s rich are investing in the Motor City like they invest in their own country, where they buy multiple units at a time.  In China, like here, they often keep their acquisitions vacant, treating new properties like stores of value.

As we have been repeating for the past three years, all China's intrepid real estate investors are doing, is parking China's record hot money - one of the three pillars of the so-called US housing recovery - abroad. In this case, in a broke city.

The Chinese buy-and-hold tactics in Detroit suggest patience, but that’s not the whole story.  The bigger story is that the parking of wealth offshore indicates capital flight.  The Chinese have only 13% of their wealth outside China, according to Oliver Williams of WealthInsight, while the global average is 20% to 30%, so some of transfers of wealth abroad are normal for a developing society.

There may be more, however, and as China prepares to liberalize its financial and social policies, the wealthiest part of the population may be considering outright getting the hell out of dodge, and taking trillions with it.

But it’s not just money that is fleeing.  A study conducted by Bank of China and Hurun found that more than half of China’s millionaires have taken steps to emigrate or are considering doing so.  This statistic tells us the transfers of cash out of China are not just normal diversification.

 

There is substantial disagreement as to how much Chinese individuals have already stashed offshore.  Boston Consulting Group estimates they hold $450 billion in assets outside their country, and WealthInsight believes the number to be $658 billion. 

 

Yet everyone agrees that the figure, whatever it is, will go up fast.  Boston Consulting, for instance, predicts offshore assets will double in three years.  CNBC late last month called the movement of Chinese capital “one of the largest and most rapid wealth migrations of our time: hundreds of billions of dollars, and waves of millionaires flowing out of China to overseas destinations.” 

Forbes' conclusion is accurate: Detroit is not an investment destination as much as it is a safe(r) place to park cash which may or may not have been procured by legal means, but which thanks to the epic cash creation tsunami emanating from the Middle Kingdom will be sure to continue for the foreseeable future: "So the Chinese buying up Detroit says less about the prospects of Motown than what they think of their own country.  It’s not like the Motor City is a good place to invest.  It has what is surely the worst housing market in the U.S.  “I’ve been in the Detroit area for 35 years,” says Chen, the broker from Troy.  “Thirty-five years ago downtown Detroit was like this, and it’s not getting better.” But that doesn't matter - there is money to be parked outside of China, and any place will do. After all, in a globalized monetary system, money is instantly fungible to any corner of the globe, especially when facilitated by such "dumbest banks of 2013" who defy all money-laundering regulations, as RBS.

The conclusion:

As grim as the future is for Motown, it is evidently better than China’s, at least according to many Chinese.  They are pouring their cash into Detroit.  

So yes: the colonization of the world's premier, and not so premier, metropolitan centers by China will continue, until the liquidity spigot is finally turned off. In the meantime recall that this is nothing new: after all Japan experienced an identical liquidity-driven colonization of the developed world in the 1980s, when it seemed Japan would buy up Manhattan. That didn't work out too well for them. With China, this time won't be any different either.

 


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Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:13 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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Go Rions!

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:18 | Link to Comment TeamDepends
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Chotown

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:34 | Link to Comment Chuck Norris
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We have to buy the building in order to see what is inside the building

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:55 | Link to Comment fooshorter
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Chuck Norris' gaze pierces cloud, shadow, earth, and        flesh...

 

 

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:56 | Link to Comment pods
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Chuck Norris mines Bitcoins with his mind.

pods

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:03 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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Ye Olde Professor's first law of investment.

  The Foreigners always buy in at the top.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:05 | Link to Comment Troll Magnet
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Oh, man...What a sad state of affairs.  The entire US is turning into a big filthy Chinatown.

I'm counting on the heartlanders to be our last line of defense. 

Hung Lo, meet Hank and his .44. 

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:07 | Link to Comment czarangelus
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The Chi-Coms bought and paid for the USA fair and square. What right do you have to complain about it now, after you've sold your future to eat the fruit of the labor of the Chinese working class? You made a deal with the devil and you've suddenly got the gall to complain about the terms after getting what you asked for?

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:10 | Link to Comment Bananamerican
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I, for one, welcome our new Chinese overlords - Tyrell

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 16:44 | Link to Comment TruthInSunshine
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Confucius say:

"Better to lose 80% of funny money overseas than 95% to 100% of it domestically...due to capital controls & other forms of punitive measures."

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 17:52 | Link to Comment Vampyroteuthis ...
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When it goes down in you own hood. Buy the neighbors. Why the hell would anyone from anywhere want to live in Detroit?

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:11 | Link to Comment BaBaBouy
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SAID It Berfore... Chinee ARE Taking Over!

They Gata The GOLD, They Will Get Everything Else.

Wake Up People...

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:22 | Link to Comment Larry Dallas
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Agreed 1000% with czarangelus...

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:14 | Link to Comment BaBaBouy
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Fri, 12/13/2013 - 15:06 | Link to Comment The Big Ching-aso
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Holy flaming won tons what next? Chinese rap stars riding rickshaws?

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 15:12 | Link to Comment WOAR
Fri, 12/13/2013 - 15:13 | Link to Comment KnightTakesKing
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Buying a two-story house in Detroit for $39 is buying at the top? 

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:05 | Link to Comment 0b1knob
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Story gets extra points for obscure Space Balls reference.   Ludicrous Speed indeed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygE01sOhzz0

 

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:10 | Link to Comment BaBaBouy
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Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:12 | Link to Comment WillyGroper
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I hope they take a big steaming dump right in front of Queenie's Buck House, then Windsor.

After that move right to Levin & Stabenow's digs.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 15:12 | Link to Comment The Big Ching-aso
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Chinese-made movie up next.......

Escrape From Detroit

 

 

 

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:23 | Link to Comment reload
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Connected people, who sit close to the source of freshly printed / freshly stolen - swapping it at warp speed for anything they can.

It is hardly a genuine endorsment of the health of the UK ecconomy. But we do love a non dom, tax exempt foreigner in London. All welcome, no questions asked, and if it means the indiginous population need to live in shipping containers - no problem. Boris Johnson loves `inovative solutions to challenging problems` - and Bankers of every stripe.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:39 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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I can't help but be reminded of the 80s when the Japanese were buying up everything in sight.  Man, they were going to buy the whole world, it seemed.  Then it stopped.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:42 | Link to Comment just-my-opinion
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Good point...but...Japan....is not China

Not even close

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 15:11 | Link to Comment dick cheneys ghost
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well......they (Japan) had to do something with those excess dollars......just like China is doing.....

 

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 06:14 | Link to Comment matrix2012
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Japanese also bought a lot of expensive PAINTINGS incl. Picasso's Cubism ones, breaking record after record then :-)

What are the values of those abstract paintings today? lol ... what a farce!

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:44 | Link to Comment Non Passaran
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Who said anything about tax exempt ?
Didn't you read the news?

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:04 | Link to Comment reload
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I did - but it is only a possibility that in future foreigners will be taxed on capital gains made from UK property deals. But if they do a deal and get (buy) `non domiciled` tax status in the UK then for a one off payment each year they dont even have to file a tax return.

This is what Mittal (steel) numerous Euro Bankers - Russians - hedge funders etc all do. I think it is about £20k p.a and you are free of tedious paperwork, Thats for little people anyway, but if you are a US citizen (chattel of the IRS) it wont help you much.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:17 | Link to Comment Cacete de Ouro
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This is actually not far from the truth

"My name Lily. I give happy ending London.
You wery happy when I buy ur twophy assit in London..."

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 16:22 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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@reload: "`innovative solutions to challenging problems`"

Translation to clear-text:  "New ways to age-old problem in how to get the most out of the peasants and merchants...  While putting and keeping them in their proper place, and us in our proper palaces."

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:12 | Link to Comment Unprepared
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Chinese super-wealthy are the new Japenese superwealthy. They will get their asses handed back to them.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:35 | Link to Comment just-my-opinion
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Why?....buy it ....when you can take it?(I doubt they could)

I just wonder sometimes

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 17:20 | Link to Comment Zero Point
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It's cheaper to buy things than take them.

Till the international bank cartel convince us all otherwise.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:20 | Link to Comment Sleepless Knight
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At least some money is changing hands and they will at least pay the city taxes due. Unless they recieved a tax free deal for their investment from the Feds.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:18 | Link to Comment NIHILIST CIPHER
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Chicoms replace socialist blacks , not much change.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:17 | Link to Comment FieldingMellish
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Rudicrous?

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:19 | Link to Comment corporatewhore
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could they consider taking over that area that affectionately has a "stan" at the end?  I can't remember for the falafel of me.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:19 | Link to Comment Unprepared
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morgan stanley?

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:21 | Link to Comment UH-60 Driver
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ror

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:21 | Link to Comment ZeroRights
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DETRIOT

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:05 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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Wait until some fool takes a shot at Barry.

We ain't seen nuttin yet.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:25 | Link to Comment Cacete de Ouro
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Good point...I was wondering when the shots at Barry will start. He should get his own loyal bodyguards and advance teams, and some advance sappers. That's what I would advise anyway.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 20:08 | Link to Comment Dogface
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How many Barry doubles are there?

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:22 | Link to Comment Its Only Rock N Roll
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Go long Windsor casinos....Rak Jak

 

 

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:43 | Link to Comment Hongcha
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Vancouver, SEA, SF, LA and LV do not puzzle me; Detroit does. 

My best guess is someone in the PRC is securitizing these offshore buys and selling it hand-over-fist like a REIT investment to the better-heeled Chinese public.  What in the world could otherwise drive a buying boom directed at a black hole like Detroit except deep naivete? 

The Chinese middle class has been subject to scams hustles and stings since the 1980's.

Sight-unseen indeed.  Buying Detroit RE is like owning a swimming pool - it's a hole in the ground you throw money into. 

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 15:02 | Link to Comment dracos_ghost
Fri, 12/13/2013 - 15:21 | Link to Comment Overfed
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What's the Chinese word for lebensraum?

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 06:28 | Link to Comment matrix2012
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"What's the Chinese word for lebensraum?"

Qixidì  means habitat (i.e. earth; soil, ground; region to stay)

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 16:30 | Link to Comment debtor of last ...
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Buy from white faces...

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:25 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Dear Chinese RE buyers (and other Investors),  Please contact me at my Hush mail account (under my Kirk... 'handle'), as my LLC has some Detroit homes to sell you: 

All in good shape, all occupied, and prop. taxes have been negotiated down.  Managed under reliable Prop Mgt Co.  Fiat cash, BTC or 0.9999 AU (Pandas, Maples) preferred, wire xfers accepted.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:26 | Link to Comment Kaiser Sousa
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i been telling mother fuckers for years...

you better start working on ur mandarin...

just like in the movie "Loopers" the chinese r gonna bee running shit despite the petulant acts of this almost dead wannabe dominant hegemon...

its so totally funny...using the Fed's debt coupon dollars to conquer the United Banker Owned States of America without firing a shot,

while simultaneously vacuming up all the real money mined on an annual basis.....

FUCK YOU BERNANKE, O'LE YELLEN AND ALL YOU COCKSUCKER MOTHER FUCKING SOCIOPATH BANKERS....

 

buy physical Silver and Gold...cya on the other side...

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:38 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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Well, the whites have been pussyfied.   If your predictions are correct, I am looking forward to seeing how these new chinese overlords deal with all those brothers.

If history is any indication, it will be genocide.  Good luck.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:52 | Link to Comment tsx500
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how will the new overlords deal with the brothers ?     maybe like this . . . . .

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/52051ec56f/airplane-oh-stewardess-i-speak-jive-from-dirttron

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 15:02 | Link to Comment Crash Overide
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You know Chicago's South and West side will send troops to the battle for Detroit, they are pretty well armed and trained in urban combat.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 17:24 | Link to Comment Zero Point
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After weeks of pitched fighting with heavy weapons, the battle for Detroit was finally won.

Early estimates of the damage wrought, put the costs in the tens of dollars....

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 15:52 | Link to Comment Hulk
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and asian pussyfied at that !!!

"i know I like my asian pussyfied

Cold beer on a Friday night

A pair of jeans that fit just right

and the radio up"

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 16:40 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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No 'Happy Ending' for you!

You are all a Dim Sum.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 02:13 | Link to Comment dunce
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They have enough money to buy large sections of the city and could create a china town with out the thugs that plague the rest of the town. It would be de facto segragation that would near impossible to take to court.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:41 | Link to Comment therover
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Good movie..and they paid in silver bars and sent back the future bodies with gold attached.  Both forms of PM's were PHYSICAL.

I know it's a movie, but back in the day, Star Trek was a futuristic show...with CD's, Bluetooth, Cell phones and Facetime !!!!

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:43 | Link to Comment NIHILIST CIPHER
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KS   Don't forget in Blade Runner they infer the Chinese are running everything. Just a reminder those people are communists and I never want to live under a communist regime....a least not worse than the one we have now.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:55 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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FYI - what you are experiencing now is a fascist regime of crony/corporatism.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:13 | Link to Comment NIHILIST CIPHER
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LofP       Agree, but FYI do some research into how many folks with jobs in DC/ WH have serious ties to the communist party USA. In the end Fascist/Marxist/Communist is same pile of steaming pooh for us to step in, no? 

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:48 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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No, because in all the real communist societies on earth, the state (not individual fat cats) have controlled the means of production.

We are experiencing something far worse.

hedge accordingly.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 16:44 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Gotta hand it to them:  They got balls. 

I like Jasmine-scented Lotus Flowers.  But not Mushi Balls, or Cream of Sum Yung Guy.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:57 | Link to Comment Kaiser Sousa
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they aint coming here...they just gonna buy up everything and get our banker owned politicians to enforece their agenda until mother fuckers over here r left so penniless and dispossed that they start utilizing what most americans DO have in abundance......

G  U   N    S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:37 | Link to Comment negative rates
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Guns and black roses!

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:35 | Link to Comment negative rates
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Can you give that to us in sign language? I didn't get it.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:26 | Link to Comment Pseudo Anonym
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it's about time

..,China's Colonization Of London...

to get them out of vancouver

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:30 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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I sold some RE in BC not too long ago.  Got a better deal from a local (German-Canadian) builder than a Chinese buyer.  Just cause they're "buying", doesn't mean they're not looking for a Deal/Steal.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:53 | Link to Comment Pseudo Anonym
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at least you sold while  it's still bubbly in van

http://www.greaterfool.ca/2013/12/12/really/

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:27 | Link to Comment orangedrinkandchips
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Chinese buying 8-mile??

 

What is wong with that?

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:51 | Link to Comment mumcard
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Chinese Eminem.  Only in China...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTeVmDDT2Rw

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:27 | Link to Comment robertocarlos
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So sorry, this my garden now.

Remember when the Brits had a problem with the Wogs and Pakis. "But shampoo and bungalow are English words!" Now the Brits love a goood curry.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:28 | Link to Comment NIHILIST CIPHER
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Hongcha          Detroit sits right on the biggest fresh water source in the world. Water is the new oil. China is already paying for tanker loads of that same water everyday, why not buy lakeshore property to go along with it.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:41 | Link to Comment therover
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Scary....can Detroit end up being a giantic fresh water treatment plant ?

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:04 | Link to Comment NIHILIST CIPHER
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therover          Yes. Rothscilds were forcing their way into that fresh water resource back in the early 2000's. China has a couple tankerloads delivered every week. Great Lakes are biggest gold mine for the elites.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:28 | Link to Comment YHC-FTSE
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+1 That makes a lot more sense than buying up hell hole Detroit. Clean, fresh water as a precious commodity is counterintuitive considering its abundance,  but a little more thought and extrapolation does make it very valuable.  

As for London,  we all know why Oligarchs of all shapes and shades come here: Banking and kids' education.  It sure isn't for the weather, food,  or the broken people on the edge. They're more welcome than most, since they are likely to be the least troublesome neighbours,  but they better bring a lot of cash with them if they want to keep the restless natives happy.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 15:07 | Link to Comment Crash Overide
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Nestlé thinks they own all the water in the world. China will have to fight them for it.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 16:55 | Link to Comment Son of Captain Nemo
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And just think what Great Lake(s) in Africa and the aquifers in Libya that were seized after NATO's invasion will be worth to the likes of Nestle when they start controlling the resident populations with water for "sale"?

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:31 | Link to Comment zuuma
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water? maybe surface water's not so important, anymore.

Exciting new developments:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/12/11/250308953/scientists-map-...

Buying $39 houses in the worst warzone the USA can offer, just for water doesn't fit on Occam's razor.

Why fill a tanker nowadays (size-limited. No supertankers in St. Lawrence Seaway) with H2o, and then burn cash/fuel to run all the way to the Hong Kong -- when you  can just drill for it closer to home.

 

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 15:42 | Link to Comment Wen_Dat
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May be the cost. Detroit water to the suburbs costs $1 for 115 gallons (this includes the sewer and meter maintenance which are almost half the cost). Seems like a good deal.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:34 | Link to Comment NuYawkFrankie
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Detroit: Mo' town for your money

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:32 | Link to Comment thestarl
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Seeing all the smog issues the Chinese have could'nt blame them for bailing out of their own shithouse country

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:33 | Link to Comment ExecutionParty
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Detroit is full of liquid assets...

 

Burrish Yes Prease

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:37 | Link to Comment Wyatt Junker
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Mexico already annexed the lower third of Cali.  The fencehoppers siphon off the low skills under the table cash market, and send the checks back home w/o Uncle Sam's vig.  

Its the decades old Leafblower War.  

They also make good future DNC candidates.  We've been taken over without a bullet being fired, just millions of gas powered lawn mowers invading middle class neighborhoods.  

They 'own' that market.  Little comic book reading Johnny with his Red Ryder bb gun hasn't gone out and mowed lawns for bubblegum cash in over 3 decades now.

China is so behind the times.  Mexico's gone entry level on our ass.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:43 | Link to Comment Hongcha
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Wyatt Junker, more like China has taken the high end and MX the low end.  The middle class is destroyed.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:38 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Since Washington has already been purchased the Chinese had to settle for the nation's second worst shithole to park their cash.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:51 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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Second best in some ways, but if you're looking for people to help you move your money around, hide it, cheat people and generally get away with murder, London bankers still have an edge on New York.  Seems that's the epicenter of all the major banking scandals.  That's "Number One Lucky Dragon" if you were a Chinese national trying to get your questionably-attained wealth out of red China.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:40 | Link to Comment dizzyfingers
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"Now: It's Detroit's Turn"

:-)

Good  luck with that.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:00 | Link to Comment Son of Captain Nemo
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Well if the U.S. Government sells the rest of Detroit, throws out the Americans and puts barbed wire fences around the properties it is selling to the Chinese to make "Little Beijing" the home away from home for those Chinese students with U.S. Government funded R&D projects as a gift from the MIC, continuing there educations in Ann Arbor, East Lansing and Columbus will be something to look forward to. I understand the smog is so bad in China that Chinese are even willing to live in the United States -given the chance!

Unless of course this gets in the way.   This United States of America truly is as paranoid and schizophrenic as it looks and in bad need of a padded cell on heavy meds.

 

 

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:47 | Link to Comment HamRove
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Buying up London eh? Well....

G'DAY MATE! Lets put another SHRIMP ON THE BARBIE!

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:49 | Link to Comment Son of Captain Nemo
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Poetic justice is what I call it -if the British 'subjects' like their American counterparts doing nothing else with it but "bitch" and "complain".

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:49 | Link to Comment Crash Overide
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I do like Chinese food, Thai is better though.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:49 | Link to Comment shovelhead
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Wait until the children try to pet the feral wildlife...

 

And the dogpacks aren't getting any better either.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:58 | Link to Comment markovchainey
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They're not "packs", they're "herds".  Lunch anyone?

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:09 | Link to Comment mumcard
Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:52 | Link to Comment ElvisDog
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Oh, that is hilarious. The Chinese are the worst investors in the world. Good luck getting your ROI from those apartment rentals in Detroit. 

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 15:17 | Link to Comment Crash Overide
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To defend China a little, they do plan ahead and I am pretty sure they were sailing the oceans long before that Columbus dickhead.

They also showed up in Africa with money to spend, most other countries showed up with guns.

I know they have all those "ghost" cities in China that are pretty much empty. Empty that is until they evacuate Tokyo from the fallout and China offers them a place to live in exchange for disputed islands?

China maybe does a some dumb things but have you seen the United States lately? We are letting international banks and corporations to bend us over and stick it real good.

What's the score here?

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 13:59 | Link to Comment divide_by_zero
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Where else can you buy a two-story home in the U.S. for $39?  China Central Television, the state broadcaster, in March reported that two houses in Detroit cost the same as a pair of leather shoes.

I'm pretty sure the leather shoes are a better store of wealth than a house in Detroit

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:12 | Link to Comment Blano
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One typically doesn't need an AK-47 to get to said shoes.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:07 | Link to Comment Darkside
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While the Chinese are increasing their debt to fund an expansion. The US is increasing their debt to finance their debt.   

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:11 | Link to Comment ghostzapper
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"you think you got it

all locked up inside

and if you beat em enough

they'll die

it's like a walk in the park

from your cell

where you're keeping

your own kind in hell

when your Great Wall rots

blame yourself

while their arms reach up for your help

and you're out of time" 

Chinese Democracy, GnR

it's already been ongoing but just wait until the U.S. kicks off a huge recruiting campaign to pull in anyone from anywhere that has money and will come over in exchange for buying a property.  the U.S. is so fucked up as we know but at the global game of poker it holds some cards others do not - it is still considered highly desirable by others as everything is relative. 

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:11 | Link to Comment Blano
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I'm sure the local rags, especially that pathetic Free Press, will spin this as a sign that Detroit is back BABY!!!

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:28 | Link to Comment falak pema
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the principal motive of Chinese investment is simple =  Extract money from home "ill gotten gains"; alike russian appartchick or drug "hot money"; unlike ME funds which are "rent" for Oil princes earned "legally";  towards western safe haven for better lifestyle. This feeds the global uber ghetto

So it has to move fast, it has to be faceless and it has to be recycled via trust funds type vehicles that the UK gives non dom investors. Whence the rage for London and USA which are tax havened and invite inflows.

Detroit could have a good purchase price/ROI potential; whereas London is more safe haven. 

Their investments in France in vineyards are trophy plays, some with good ROI. 

Three strategies there : Quick cheap hi ROi; Classy; trophy.

And good lifestyle locally. Then one foot in each camp and we are true jetlagged oligarchs.

Soon you won't be able to tell a trust fund brat from USA and one from Shanghai. Aristocracy in the making. 

If you looked at a photo of last Czar, Brit King George V and Last Habsburg, they were all similar faces of incestuous families and had often beards like Ben of FED.

Before Armageddon Europe the last aristocratic breed all looked alike! 

 

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:14 | Link to Comment stant
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no deal unless they bring back the pontiac. the good ones ie

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:15 | Link to Comment monad
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You know you're fucked when North Korea looks reasonable.

Fwd Soviet!

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:27 | Link to Comment PTR
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If water is, in fact, being exported directly, it is not by official means:

 

http://www.glslregionalbody.org/GLSLRBAgreements.aspx

 

"On December 13, 2005, the Great Lakes Governors of Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, and the Premiers of Ontario and Québec signed the Great Lakes—St. Lawrence River Basin Sustainable Water Resources Agreement, and the Governors endorsed the companion Great Lakes—St. Lawrence River Basin Water Resources Compact. The agreements detail how the States and Provinces will manage and protect the Basin and provide a framework for each State and Province to enact laws for its protection. The agreements include the following points:

  • Economic development will be fostered through the sustainable use and responsible management of Basin waters.
  • There will be a ban on new diversions of water from the Basin. Limited exceptions could be allowed, such as for public water supply purposes in communities near the Basin, but exceptions would be strictly regulated.
  • The States and Provinces will use a consistent standard to review proposed uses of Basin water.
  • Regional goals and objectives for water conservation and efficiency will be developed, and they will be reviewed every five years. Each State and Province will develop and implement a water conservation and efficiency program.
  • The collection of technical data will be strengthened, and the States and Provinces will share the information, which will improve decision-making by the governments.
  • There is a strong commitment to continued public involvement in the implementation of the agreements.

The Governors and Premiers are aggressively putting these agreements into action. In the United States, the Compact became law on December 8, 2008, following approval by each of the eight State legislatures and Congress, and signature by the President.  In order to put the Agreement into law in Ontario and Québec, the Provinces are amending their statutes and regulations as appropriate.  It was approved by the Québec National Assembly on November 30, 2006, and by the Ontario Provincial Parliament on June 4, 2007. No Canadian federal legislation is required."

I recall the article- the jist of the agreement was to place limitations on usage/consumption by the surrounding provinces/states.

 

To add to that, the Pols in Chicago are stingy as hell just to open up the locks of the Chicago River when the Mighty Miss is running low, so it makes me think that knowing what a resource it is, how freely they (and any other interested parties) would let it go.  Unless it were for a sweet song, maybe.

 

Nestle bottled water, anyone?

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 15:22 | Link to Comment Crash Overide
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This is my backyard, fuck Nestle.

 

PS: Chicago everything is for sale, just call 1-800-buy-Rham

 

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:37 | Link to Comment q99x2
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Juan Ton

Hey how do you get the rights to conterfeit? That's the business I wanna be in.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 16:03 | Link to Comment W74
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Did you have a Menorah on display last week?

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:41 | Link to Comment philosophers bone
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Print easy money and buy up all the real assets. 

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:46 | Link to Comment Nobody For President
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http://www.businessinsider.com/detroit-houses-for-1-dollar-2012-2

Some real beauties here - 'fixer uppers', you just can't leave them overnight once you start fixin' em...

 

But even better - Why buy at all? :

http://www.businessinsider.com/detroit-houses-for-1-dollar-2012-2#the-city-is-also-offering-incentives-to-lure-residents-back-to-abandoned-neighborhoods-15

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:50 | Link to Comment Rukeysers Ghost
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So I am supposed to be worried about a bunch of dopes dumping money on loser properties hoping for a Detroit Renascence? The Chinamen might as well have flushed their money down the toilet. Detroit is and always will be dead.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 15:16 | Link to Comment W74
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I don't know about always.  Simply change the demographics and it'll be safe and productive again. Revitalization would occur organically; as opposed to the chaos and decay that has and is organically occurring now.

There's no reason not to think that flooding Detroit with Chinese would turn it into another Portland or Seattle.  I'm fairly sure doing so would indeed facilitate revitalization. Who knows, if the Han start facilitating law and order again you may even see White people return.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 17:55 | Link to Comment hootowl
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Law and order, like public mass hangings to reduce the "gimmedat" population and make life safe for eveybody else.....or mass beheading of all infidels that stupidly wander into the wrong areas of Southeastern Michigan......and internment and enslavement of all former union members to replace the stupid boondoggle of unsustainable retiree pensions and medical care.

 Chinese are clever and efficient in their use of in-house prison manpower and the use of bulldozers in quickly disposing of useless, wornout, eaters in mass graves.....after, of course examining them and harvesting any marketable organs for use of the elites of the world.

So much to look forward to.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 14:52 | Link to Comment ZeroPoint
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Detroit to become yet another Chinese ghost city.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 15:05 | Link to Comment walküre
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First they buy up Detroit's slums, then they open up shops and start building Chinese cars in Detroit for slave labor. Nobody can deny them Euro 5 certs then and Chinese built cars from Detroit will flood the world!

Detroit will be auto capital NO 1 once again!

Don't you just love good communism?

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 15:12 | Link to Comment W74
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I would like to see the Chinese come in and rehabilitate Detroit.  They're already well underway in the process of colonizing Africa, so why not?  A couple hundred thousand Chinese in the Michigan area would stabilize it, businesses would get started, jobs (for their families) would be created, homes and streets would get repaired, and some semblance of a normal economy would return to the area.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 17:43 | Link to Comment hootowl
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What kind of mess will be created by the mingling of the black "gimmedats" (or I'll cut your throat) of Detroit Metro, the muscum "anti-everybody but me" cutthroats of Dearborn, and the reformed(?) communists of Mainland China?

God help us.  Look what we have done to ourselves with this "Free trade" Open Border scam by the Elite NWO crowd.

Everybody has somewhere to run,...but us.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 15:13 | Link to Comment docmac324
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One-sold-low.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 15:58 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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just thought i'd throw this out there?

"China in the 21st Century"

http://www.china-mike.com/chinese-history-timeline/part-16-modern-china/

Ps. China, Taiwan (ROC), Japan, {[place name here for future reference??? too whom ownership belongs, given 5000+/+ years of Chinese History??? and countless civil-wars with Japanese occupation...etel, etc., etc., ]}  have--NO-- legal rights to the 'Diaoyu (China) and Senkaku (Japan) Islands?!?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_San_Francisco

and this...     http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/tension-between-japan-and-china-in-senkaku-islands-dispute-a-857514.html

Ps.   This is jawdropping--  "The Deng Years: An Impressive Turnaround"     (Note how quickly Nixon and Kissinger brought China into the fold and aborted the ROC(?)?!?   http://www.china-mike.com/chinese-history-timeline/part-14-mao-zedong/

,... can't forget to tie-a-bow around this circle jerk?    http://www.china-mike.com/chinese-history-timeline/part-15-deng-xiaoping/

Ps2.   Pakistan made this happen, in which China is forever greatful?

 

 

 

 

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 15:18 | Link to Comment One of We
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You know Monopoly is about over when you're building hotels on Baltic and Mediterranean Ave......

 

We bring ow floating pig to Rake Erie

-Bang Ding Ow

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 15:41 | Link to Comment earleflorida
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but, what about 'Get-out-of-Jail' Free? card,... on canary wharf?

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 15:18 | Link to Comment yogibear
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Detroit is already a ghost city.China wants to add another to it's inventory?

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 15:36 | Link to Comment pashley1411
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You think this is a real estate play.   Its not.   Its a "get the fck out of Dodge" play.  

And do the Chinese know that London is simply a suburb of greater Karachi?  

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 16:10 | Link to Comment roadhazard
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"Gung Ho" gone wong.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 16:28 | Link to Comment GoldenDonuts
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I know this is ancient history but isn't this just like the late 1980's early 1990's when the Japanese were buying pretty much everything and then there was nobody else to sell too.  Look what happened to them.  But then again I believe that their credit is created the same way that the US creates it.  With debt.  Does China do that too or do they just print up whatever cash is needed to paper over whatever the can't hide?

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 16:30 | Link to Comment ColoQ
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Another active shooting going down in Littleton, CO right now.  Arapahoe High. My high school :(

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 16:49 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Suggest you hedge with golden BiteMe Coins.  Tip: The good ones are soft, the bad ones are hard.

;-)

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 17:13 | Link to Comment nasa
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I'm sure that once the Chinese settlers see Detroit in person, they will high-tail it back to the homeland.  That's if the Free Shit Army doesn't get them first...

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/someone-in-detroit-pointed-a-gun-at-a-google-street-view-car-2012-9

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 17:31 | Link to Comment robertocarlos
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Give everyone in Detroit a prepaid bus pass to Houston or Liberia. Hand over Detroit to China in exchange for $200 billion. Spend $200 billion giving every American $600. Buy shares of WalMart.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 17:32 | Link to Comment hootowl
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When they are assailed by the hordes of "gimmedats", they'll hightail it back to the beautiful smog of Shanghai in a hot jet minute.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 18:03 | Link to Comment esum
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OK so the chinese are shown pics of beverly hills and are told detroit is even nicer because each house comes with 1000 rats.... Not so fast one hung lo cause i'm uloading the okeefenokee basis it's great rice growing property with friendly wildlife to boot. 

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 20:08 | Link to Comment RaceToTheBottom
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Wow, who would think it?

 

This will be interesting to watch as the vultures of the new powers of the world feast on the weaknesses of the old power.

As Detroit recovers, there will be huge black-chinese resentment and stress, just the same as there is stress between Vietnamese, Taiwanese, Mexican and other immigrants, legal and otherwise and black.

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 21:33 | Link to Comment grunk
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Do they have real estate taxes in China?

Just wait until the non-resident, non-voting Chinese speculators realize that the resident voters will tax the snot out of them.

 

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