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US, Chinese Warships "Nearly Collide" In South China Sea
With the recent deployment of China's air defenze zone, and the subsequent announcement of a comparable zone by South Korea which overlaps not only with China's own, but with that of Japan, it almost seems like a scenario designed to provoke an escalating conflict on the tiniest of provocations is actively being produced. A scenario such as the one US defense officials revealed today, when a guided missile cruiser operating in international waters in the South China Sea was forced to take evasive action last week to avoid a collision with a Chinese navy ship maneuvering nearby.
Hold on: how can two massive ships, visible to the naked eye and certainly to radar from hundreds of miles away, "nearly collide"?
Reuters reports that the incident took place on December 5 and involved the USS Cowpens. The Pacific Fleet statement did not offer details about what led to the near-collision.
But it did say the incident underscored the need for the "highest standards of professional seamanship, including communications between vessels, to mitigate the risk of an unintended incident or mishap."
The rest of the story is widely known:
Beijing declared the air defense zone over the East China Sea late last month and demanded that aircraft flying through the area provide it with flight plans and other information.
The United States and its allies rejected the Chinese demand and have continued to fly military aircraft into the zone, which includes air space over a small group of islands claimed by China but currently administered by Tokyo.
In the midst of the tensions over the air defense zone, China deployed its only aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, to the South China Sea for maneuvers. Beijing claims most of the South China Sea and is involved in territorial disputes in the region with several of its neighbors.
And so, the waters have been tested, so to speak, with a media "warning" on just how brazen China can be when it comes to its "aggressive" tactics in what we are confident the Chinese media will describe as its own maritime territory, begging the question of just who was provoking whom, especially since the response to a Chinese missile cruiser sailing idly by New York or San Francisco, even if in "international waters", would hardly see the same controlled reaction by the US.
Then again, it has been only two weeks since China's most recent "escalation." We are confident that given time, this will be the least of the close shipping encounters that involve Chinese, US, Japanese and/or Korean navies in the East China Sea. After all, one must think of all that, GDP that as WWII taught us, can be easiest gained through some modest, or not so modest, international conflict.
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WOAR if you are really on your way out, all the best to you. Stay safe.
Consider this at some point. The MIC is probably the largest component of the FSA.
Yep, I'm on way out for at least 6 weeks, if not more.
"The MIC is probably the largest component of the FSA"
Only as long as there's no "SHTF" scenario. I trust military types to do better in the long run than someone who sits on a couch and eats twinkies on somebody else's dime. At least the MIC is physically fit, and knows the basics of building infrastructure (ALL branches have some form of civil engineering, whether it's Power Production/Telecoms or building bridges).
Sure, there will be the bad bunch that would tear off and take things from other people...but I bet there would be more that could resourcefully make a contribution to society. Especially if the lower rank Officers could keep shit together, but that's an unknown.
All in all, I'd rather risk being in the military than going back to my dead end job and going nowhere. At least in this army, I'm not asking for a handout. I'm willing to work for a better life. That's my perspective on things.
A good percentage of the "lifers" in the military are shitbirds that couldn't make it on the outside. My advice is to stay low to avoid radar and to strongly encourage your comrades to remember their oath to uphold the Constitution.
And remember in your dead end job you aren't working for the people that are cleaning out the taxpayer's coffers and killing innocent people for their resources.
Dizzy: My mother always told me that violence doesn't solve anything.
Jean Rasczak: Really? I wonder what the city founders of Hiroshima would have to say about that.
[to Carmen]
Jean Rasczak: You.
Carmen: They wouldn't say anything. Hiroshima was destroyed.
Jean Rasczak: Correct. Naked force has resolved more conflicts throughout history than any other factor. The contrary opinion, that violence doesn't solve anything, is wishful thinking at its worst; people who forget that always die.
"In English, oder German, I've learned how to count down...
Und I'm learning Chinese.
Says Wehrner von Braun."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTKn1aSOyOs
My dead end job was working for a pork processing facility that hired illegal immigrants and gave me a raise of .25 cents. On a four year contract. That doesn't even cover inflation, and I was earning barely enough to eat and live...renting a room from my parents.
I'm sorry to say but there are no good options. I don't have the money to start a business myself, I have no skills to do so, and working at any dead end job is just as bad as the alternative I chose.
That's the reality. You can't run from it, and neither can I. I am making my choice. You have made yours. That's all we can do.
No judgement here. I am just trying to give you information I didn't have offered to me. Just try not to do anything you can't live with later on. I know the Air Force is in the rear with the gear most of the time, but if your unit is responsible for innocent deaths is your paycheck going to be worth it still?
Do you really want to be overseas if TSHTF? Think the gov will get you back home to take care of your family? They will use you like a paper plate and throw you away when they're done. Don't forget it.
I understand. I'll have to cross those bridges when I get there.
Besides, if you're talking about being complicit, just repairing the gear is helping kill people. Just like working for my dead end job was helping kill people, only more slowly. Hence, dead end.
Better to learn useful skills, and have to cross bridges when I come to them, than die slowly and achieve nothing. That's all I have to say about that.
I hope that you've done well with yourself, and I respect the choices you've made as well. To each their own.
It is Honorable to serve.
Carry On.
If he wants to serve the people he should become a good cop. Serving the MIC doesn't seem too honorable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbFr8mc9rj4
just to challenge your statement...
every american who is funding the us military machine is "responsible" for innocent deaths.
you don't have to be in the military.
Guess that excuses Bradley Manning then !
Congrats WOAR....and a big fuckoff to the bullshitters living in their bubbleworlds...
Learn a skill and get good at it. The USAF will pay you all the way to PhD if that is what you really want. JUST GO GET IT MY MAN!!
PS....USN is going to KICK THE LIVING DOGSHIT OUTTA ARMY PUKES ONE MORE TIME!!
God speed WOAR...keep in touch ;-)
Didn't expect you to comment on this ;P
Keep preaching to the sheeple. I'll get back as fast as I can.
I don't hold the military in contempt like others do. Now, the brass, from about BG on up, I don't trust em as far as I could throw them.
My dad was in WWII, brother-in-law in Nam & Korea (where there were no nukes in Korea of course, even though he had one strapped to his ass driving around with it, he just laughed when he told me what a bunch of lying bastards they are) he went on to be a DI at Ft. Benning, his son, also served in Nam.
A part of his son's humanity stayed there, in Nam.
Be careful...the object is to come back in one piece...body & mind...whatever it takes.
Take care and do stay in touch with your brothers & sisters here at the Hedge, when you're off base of course ;-)
I'll try to keep my brains in my head, nmewn. That's the only injury that scares me, really, and judging from the statistics...those are the injuries that are skyrocketing in the Middle East (IEDs are less forgiving than Mike Tyson's fists).
I'll keep my eyes peeled, and post when I can.
You don't need to justify your actions. You are doing what's right for you. Just don't compromise yourself and blindly follow orders. That's for the stupid and the drones.
It sounds like you're in for a huge surprise. I spent a few years in the nuclear side of the USN starting 2003 and am from a SMALL rural town in upper northwest. It was a eye-opening experience, to say the least, and on more accounts than being introduced to the FSA and the thug-life, if you know what I mean. Also, don't you think it's a little soon to be assuming orders to Guam? USAF has bases all over the country...Langley...
"At least in this army, I'm not asking for a handout. I'm willing to work for a better life." Working for the MIC for exchange of $ IS a handout of sorts. I couldn't take that aspect of it, and let's just say things went south. Joined for money, as well. Got a well-paying civilian career out of it, and some friends I would have never met otherwise; but that period in my life was tough because I was aware that I was selling my soul and was a part of a "team" which was wreaking havoc on innocents all over the planet. Some days I wish I could take it all back and 'lose' everything I currently have...
At the end of the day, you know what's right, and what needs to be done. Do it.
Have you ever watched Ben-Hur?
When Ben-Hur was offered to become a Roman citizen, was it right for him to turn it down because Romans were evil? Or, could he have made himself a good Roman, and been the change he wanted to see in the system?
It's a hard choice in reality, because both ways are valid. One is just as fruitless as the other, but both ways are valid (By rejecting Roman citizenship, the Romans stay the same amount of evil, and even when you join the group, there's no guarantee you can change anything).
We all have to make choices. I understand what I'm getting into.
I don't understand why anyone would want to voluntarily sign up to kill innocent citizen.
Pretty sure WOAR said a support role.
But it doesn't really matter once in, does it? When someones trying to kill you. My dad went in as a cook and found himself behind a Browning facing a banzai charge.
Those were not "innocent citizens"...they were really REALLY trying to kill him.
And yet...here I am, thanks to him not crawling into a tent and waiting for a bayonet from an "innocent citizen" because the gunner got killed.
Lives, past & present, are funny that way ;-)
Yea but it's not like this future China war is necessary.
I might be dreamer but like someone else said: I dream of a time where the leaders will declare war and nobody will show up ;)
Maybe not. Soldiers, sailors, and airmen are regularly required to take large numbers of inoculations, some of which (e.g., anthrax) are known to have a risk of bad reactions. They are exposed to toxic materials (e.g., depleted uranium) for long periods of time. Airmen often have to take amphetamines to stay alert on long flights.
In addition, war as currently fought is psychologically destructive. More American soldiers die by suicide than are killed by the enemy. The military passes out psychotropic medications like candy, and many of those medicines also have a risk of bad reactions.
And if you are injured, the quality of care you will receive varies widely between different VA centers.
There are a lot of veterans living on the street. The military messed those guys up, physically and mentally. Lots of kids trying to get ahead in life are ending up disabled instead, and the government couldn't care less.
Being in the military is being a government employee is just as bad as being a member of the FSA, if not worse. And if you do decide to go, don't forget your flotation device, Guam is going to tip over any day now.
And wait til you get a load of the denizens of on base housing.
Full disclosure I have 2 honorable discharges. I served the MIC during the first gulf war and didn't figure it out til afterwards. Downvote it if you want to, but don't talk shit about parasites when you know what you're going into voluntarily.
Good luck, stay safe and thank you for your' service.
Good luck, stay safe and sabotage the hell out of the drones. FIFY.
A little unsolicited advice from an X Navy guy. To make it through basic as easily as possible it is best to not stand out, don't do anything(good or bad) to draw attention to yourself and don't volunteer for anything. Try to be anonymous, you don't want the guy in charge knowing your name. Good luck.
Bset of luck, MOAR. Just remember to never trust *any* officer over the rank of Major/Lt. Cmdr. With only rare exceptions, anyone with more brass than that got those eagles/stripes/stars by being political - and they'll throw you under the bus just as fast as your C-in-C will if it'll suit their interests.
Having a problem with the MIC and it's abuses does not necessarily extent to the people who serve. There are many good and honorable people who will do the right thing if shit hits the fan. I'm certain you fall in that category. Best of luck to you and stay safe.
Thanks Dr., I'll try to stay safe.
Love your posts too!
Actually you will see the families of those with whom you serve using the EBT card because we pay them shit. Don't worry about basic your going into the AF for heavens sake not the military. Inside joke regarding the Civilian Service...
Don't rag on the Chairforce too hard, someone has to shine those seats!
Have you ever seen a Marine sit down for 15 minutes? They go ballistic!
Your farewell is premature and your absence will not be prolonged.
US Air Force "basic training" is a pathetic joke. You will have access to a computer within two or three weeks (tops!) after you start, if not sooner.
If you are looking for a challenge, prepare to be dissappointed.
Nevertheless, best of luck to you in your endeavor.
Good to know my recruiter hasn't been lying to me. I'm sure they'll keep me busy clipping threads off my uniform!
They have a room for you at Lackland. Where you will do push ups until the mirror fogs over. You will lose 15 lbs. and when they let you go into town on the Friday before graduation, you will be as hungry as you have ever been.
I've lived on bread and water before. It's going to be hard for them to make me "as hungry as I've ever been".
Thanks for the heads up though!
Good luck and if you send a private message, I will buy you lunch on Friday. If you go on your own, go to Shilo's and get cheddar wurst rye bread pea soup root beer and blackberry cobbler. The spicy mustard is so hot you might want to mix it with the regular.
I have no idea how to send a private message. I've only been around for like 13 weeks, and it's not like there's a tutorial for this set up. It certainly doesn't update me when people reply to my posts, which is annoying! Trying to upvote everyone that replied is a pain...
I'll see where Shilo's is when I get there. It's in Lackland, right?
They will put you on a bus to downtown unless your folks come pick you up.
A bus ride to Texas? Jeez, that's a long way...
Oh! I got your request thingy, no idea how to send you a PM though.
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Or they could simply dump our bonds. Easier than war.
They're testing us, they know we're weak and under horrific leadership.
We're not so much weak as discombobulated with terrible leadership right up to the top brass that O bambi hand picked.
They're testing us, they know we're weak and under horrific leadership...
Who knows? Maybe they’ve already shipped a couple of their “devices” in containers being carried by Uncle Warren’s railcars. While granma and grampa are being frisked by TSA operatives tons of this junk flies through Long Beach, Oakland and Seattle on flatbeds only to be activated a la WWII Japanese fire balloons / German V2 random detonations.
I guess the biggest downside is the loss of the container(s) US citizens would’ve been able to use as housing units, (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-24610434) now that the rule of law re: mortgage instruments and proper recordation process has been glossed over and “settled” by the feds.
Jmho.
Puh-leeze! The USA has gamma ray detectors n major ports so goofs like Red China can not just ship nukes to Kansas like no one watch is watching.
Hmmm, made by the same guys who made the LeechCare website?
Red China can not just ship nukes to Kansas like no one watch is watching...
Thanks for the consolation. I suspected there had to be some sort of glitch in my reasoning. I should’ve known better than to think Uncle Warren didn’t have my back.
...Mr. Diane Feinstein on the other hand...
Yes, but a leadership is prone to lash out with irrational violence...that's dangerous.
Well, hell, they put him there in the first place.
Selfie is winning!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knu14TlvCQE
It's amazing to see those hulking tubs of steel that travel at 20-40 knots carrying supersonic weapons that can reach targets in minutes, think they're safe from attack.
In WWII you got to see the ship burn and sink. In 2013 you'll get to see the "puff of smoke"...
In 1982 you got to see ships burn and sink, just ask the Brits.
I remember the Falkands conflict well. That was just teetotaling compared to what these wanabe chess players are messing with in Asia.
Hey, watch with the "teatotaling" abuse, my brother....
Knuks, my mother is English/Spanish(spain). My oldman is Ger'maniac. I was out and about during lunchtime, and the shops were empty! I think devaluation is beginning to take hold.
Dustification?
That is a great point which is not talked about much, but the truth is that the vaunted aircraft carriers require a huge escort and logistical footprint.
They are floating weapons platforms that are used to "project power", but are only good against the usual suspects who don't have significant naval forces, air force, or anti-ship missiles.
Cruisers or Destroyers with Aegis are a must if there are any threats tronger than a patrol gunboat. If you add subs to the picture, you will require much more.
They are fast becoming obsolete, and many naval theorists bellieve they will prove as effective as the Maginot Line against a worthy adversary.
Ballistic ship killers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-ship_ballistic_missile
As the Japanese learned at Midway, if all your carriers go down you lost all your planes and most of your very best pre-war trained pilots and aircrew.
Time to watch the end of "The Bedford Incident" again.
And this classic tune for you Navy guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da6rYqI8z_4
Since we exported all of our manufacturing base to China dont we need to bomb them and destroy it...to bring it back home?
no.......those jobs would just move to Africa. its over. we are just waiting on the death certificate
No doubt all those Chinese electronic components will work just
fine when used against their makers.
They of course will just be lobbing salvos of UST's upon Wall Street.
Mmmm.
WTF are we doing in the South China Sea anyway? We don't have enough going on, now we have to take on some Jap problem?
I'm pretty sure we took on the Jap problem when we nuked them twice and set up forts of the empire throughout their islands.
We're running all over the place trying to drum up a fight with someone so the focus is taken off Obamacare and Barry's war on the United States.
All the misdirection in the world will not take the focus away when over 100 million familys have their healhcare canceled.
It's a problem when you see people on TV that have been canceled.
It's a tradgedy when someone you know gets canceled.
It's the end of life as you know it when your children loose coverage.
And when YOU know you are going to die because some nameless .gov appointed shit desides to deny you care. Well, you have nothing to loose.
“You only have power over people as long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything, he's no longer in your power--he's free again.”
-- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
I do believe that was the premise of Fight Club.
Are you insinuating that Obama is trying to free us all ala Tyler Durden by stripping us of all our material goods and wealth? :-P
I'll believe that when he gives up his stuff, blows up Goldman Sacks, and makes a few bars of soap out of his wife's ass.
I think it's the general idea.
Of course, you have to toss in a gulag and gas ovens to really get cookin'
That's why I have said Backdoor is not thinking. He is creating an army of 1,000,000 assassins who have nothing to lose.
"Killed my Grandma, ya bastard! Take that!"
"Outa my way! My kids could not get care!"
"No, I saw the cocksucker first. He killed my wife!""
"He cancelled my Haloperidol!! Eat Lead, dick for brains!"
"Reggie, Help! Reggie? Reggie??"
Etc.
upvoted for the phrase, "Eat lead, dick for brains!" - classic
are you sure about that "100 million estimate"?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/12/05/the-gop-says-...
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2013/nov/06/glenn-beck/b...
your statements reveal a lot about you and the "propaganda" media sources to which you subscribe. are you being farmed? or is it simply your desire?
if you're going to blame .gov, then you must also blame the insurance providers and the american health care industry itself, including doctors and medical universities + institutions. the entire system is based on a quest for maximizing revenue and profit. i think it's a sad state of affairs when we have to incentivize good behaviors in this way. but, maybe i'm just a dreamer?
thankfully, there are some people trying to figure out how to make health systems work more efficiently and effectively for the world:
The real struggle is not between East and West, or capitalism and communism, but between education and propaganda.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Martin_Buber
+1 That's a nice quote.
Perhaps a radar - assisted collision? (http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/general-yachting-discussion/14726-radar-assisted-collision.html - (don't you love the seamanship on these "Flag of Convenience" vessels - Cypriot and Greek ownership . . . .!), and possibly the first ever incident - the collision between the Andrea Doria and the Stockholm (1956) - http://www.splashmaritime.com.au/Marops/data/less/Colreg/Casualties/Stockholm%20and%20Andria%20Doria.htm
It's our navy, they can do anything....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sen8Tn8CBA4
"You got your peanut butter on my chocolate!" No.... "You got your chocolate in my peanut butter!".
Every(global sovereign) administration tries to obfuscate and hide the truth on a magnitude greater then their predecessors.
The conduits of intelligence gathering aren't a "one way" street. When the sheep start to realize that they have "equal access" to the cookie jar, Bread and Circuses will be served.
Luckily it wasn't a near-miss...
Obama put homosexuals in charge of the US military and there aren't enough women in China. Dudes have been on ships a long time and won't pass up a chance to humper one another.
Thus spake q99x2
Ok, I'll play your silly game.
What homosexual is in charge of the Navy?
What homosexual is in charge of the Air force?
What homosexual is in charge of the Marines?
What homosexual is in charge of the Army?
What homosexual is in charge of the Joint Chiefs?
Thus spake q99x2
All of them.
They are also probably Reds. Or just greedy.
In answer to all your questions: It's Obama, of course.
"Obama put homosexuals in charge of the US military"
Obama may or may not be a homosexual, but your answer still does not jibe with the initial premise and the subsequent questions.
Who are the homosexuals Obama assigned to lead the military branches?
Wanna take a stab at it?
Went by the name Barry once .
Itching for some friction.
Achin' for the bacon
It's not the fags that are the problem in the Navy and in the military, it's the chicks.
The first female pilot to attempt a carrier landing blew herself up in a fireball that incinerated about a dozen sailors. China's military (and most other militaries for that matter) don't deal with any chick fighter pilots or feminazis telling them what to do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVns-ot1ca8&noredirect=1
this is more like it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vA4T1wfJLE
some serious hotties in the ranks!
Are you for real?
Yep.
Women should only fight as a last resort, but should know how.
I served with a few queers in my day. I think everyone pretty much knew who they were, but they did their thing away from us, and we did our thing away from them. There have been gays since the first cave man army. The problem is the Activist Fags trying to upset the boat as a part of their overall commie plan. This opinion does not include other, patriotic gays.
Sorry Charlie, worked for the Tuna
And, War, it Shall Be.
(TPTB).
How can two massive ships, visible to the naked eye and certainly to radar from hundreds of miles away, "nearly collide?"
The skipper was porking the CPO in his cabin, the watch was getting porked by the Chief Fire Control Officer, and the rest of the crew was watching porn on the quarterdeck.
`Driving While Asian` ... on the ocean. ;)
Whoever down-arrowed you has obviously never lived in LA.
Or in D.C., either. ;)
Or in D.C., either. ;)
That ain't no Honda Pilot jockey!
Hold on: how can two massive ships, visible to the naked eye and certainly to radar from hundreds of miles away, "nearly collide"?
Easy. They both just listen to their GPS' instruction.
SIRI! Give directions to avoid obstacle!
"to impact barnacle increase speed and turn 5 degrees port"
SIRI. YOU DUMB BITCH.
Now how the fuck do I aim this thing without my iPhone?
Really? You downvote my ass for a pretty good joke?
I'm not wasting my 'A' material on this crowd anymore.
I wouldn't worry about those vote too much as there has been quite an influx of assholes around here of late. If they are not attacking Tyler, they are attacking WB7 or anyone else who makes a sane comment. They just dinked YHC-FTSE's comment above which was a great comment. They have done it to a lot of people without having the guts to explain why. There appear to be a quite a few of them though I suspect from observation that they are a few with many screen names. They use this tactic as a force multiplier. We can do that as well if need be.
I think I know where some of them are coming from but I will just stay back and observe their operations for now. I will give you a hint, there is a one week old satoshi401 on this thread.
When force multipliers are used you know you have pissed them off but good and your work is done.
;)
Apple maps?
Maybe the captain thought it was a UNESCO world heritage site and decided to crash into it like USS Guardian did earlier this year. Crashing and bombing protected coral reefs seems to be popular with the navy these days.
You have to wonder about people who start masturbating at the thought of war: The sick fucks who anticipate mass murder by our teens on their teens with glee, the cunts brimming with hate using the opportunity to incite more hate, the armchair generals and military gadget nerds wetting their diapers at every acronym, repeating every ultra-hush-hush special op emergency standby as if they were in operations, living vicariously through those in uniform who, if they are remotely sane, would rather not get their limbs blown off thank you very much, or spend the rest of their lives crippled in mind and body for some vague political agenda that nobody is going to care about in a couple of years thousands of miles away from home. Yes. You have to wonder about the cowards and hypocrites who apparently love the men (& women ) in the armed forces so much, that they keep shoving the poor bastards into war zones all the time.
Fuck the MIC. A war with a nuclear armed adversary with unstoppable delivery systems means just one thing morons. Game over for everything on this tiny insignificant ball of molten dirt with a thin crust of life living on it. The Pentagon casualty estimates for a nuclear exchange are a joke that do not include the meltdowns of every nuclear power station, radiation, plagues and untreated illnesses that follow the breakdown of frontline services, starvation and civil war. That's if you're "lucky" enough to miss one of thousands of high yield nukes flung our way. No place on earth will be survivable afterwards, so remember that you fucking retards and for god's sake look at yourselves in the mirror the next time you start egging each other on at the prospect of seeing other men die for your pride and glory. You stupid disgusting shameful fucks.
@YHE-FTSE,
EXACTLY RIGHT AND RIGHT THE FUCK ON MAN!
Maybe they need to review John Trimmer's masterful "How to Avoid Huge Ships"?
And the "Korean" (US vs. China) War of the 1950's in which one thing was proven beyond all doubt: we WILL mess each other up until China gets tired of the fight.
.... Ahhhh, just a little game of Sea Chicken to "take the edge off". Nothing to "sea or hear" there, move along - to Amtrak.
A holiday favorite....along with Joseph Hazelwood's wonderful tale, "The Rocks Always Win."
The media and blogosphere are all like oh-noz-the-Chinese-bullied-us-again-y.
Pu-leeez, their carrier trainer was one their first training mission and Cowpens wanted to get a closer look. Chinese warned Cowpens. Cowpens was all like this-is-international-waters-yo. Chinese sent a landing ship parked in front of Cowpens (500 yeards ahead).
Carrier groups have a thing about other missile destroyers getting too close, ok?
If anything, this is both sides testing waters as Chinese navy begins stepping into blue water. Nothing more, nothing less. Stop whining like pussies and start behaving like an adult.
" Some Ting Wrong, I No See... "
" Yho Jack, Move That Thing "
When Worlds Colide...
So who turned first?
War has been started for less.
"This is the transcript of a radio conversation of a US naval ship with Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in October, 1995. Radio conversation released by the Chief of Naval Operations 10-10-95.
"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lighthouse_and_naval_vessel_urban_legend
Probably had something to do with all the low-bid Chinese nav gear on our warship.
I wonder if the Reuters reporter David Alexander and the editor Jim Loney were actually on one of those ships? Or are they just spoon-fed the shit they are told to spew?
No mention of an actual "reporter" being aboard either ship.
Edit: It appears as nothing more than MOAR WOAR for the sheeple to be distracted instead of them staring into their iPhones and figuring out they are enslaved.
Edit again: Let's all call Reuters and ask if those employees actually EXIST! And lets meet them IN PERSON and check their I.D.'s to verify.
Angus , I dug this song up for you. Remember this? 2 Live Crew - C'mon Babe - YouTube
JPM theme song... The EBS is a joke Angus. Whats our alternative? 'RTRS is corrupt, and BBG feeds the corruption.
I trade price action. Human analog, price action.
Yen: I can't click linkz. I'll re-type it into another browser on another puter.
I can answer the question "what's our alternative". I already have mine in place. Note the word "mine". It has two meanings.
I trade myself with Mother Earth. We do battle with each other. Like all Mother's, she lets her children grow and nurtures them along the way. She can be one scary MF.
Edit: LOL, just listened to your 2 live crew link. Couldn't help thinking about Jamie Dimon, Lloyd Blankcheck, and the SEC internet porn crew! I couldn't think of anything else without RAGE taking over me and wanting to... well, you know. I can't say it here without black helo's circling overhead.
So they didn't get WWIII going in Syria and Iran, so now they just pivot to the Pacific and start WWIII over there. One way or another, they're going to get their war.
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DEFINITION of Time: 'The Uncommon`Sense of a Golden`Anniversary in a Faux`Irredentist Darwinian World?'
' a symbiotic anomaly of variable enigma's, nuturing humanities mutated offspring destined for a future lost, alas... in the past-- beguiled by a intellectual deception... that of the surreal presence of a latent existence?'
Explaination,... please: In mid-1971 Kissinger (Nixon's, U.S. Nat'l. Security Advisor? [from nowhere land?]) holds secret meeting (talks) in China. The Pakistani government was instrumental in helping to arrange the secret meetings. Months later in Oct/1971 the United States opens China up to the Western Capitalist(USSA?)/Marxist(China?) co-op U.S. Trading Agreement!
On August 15, 1971, Nixon abolishes the 1944 Bretton Woods Treaty (U.S. Gold Standard) and devalues the U.S. Dollar! The $$$ is now backed by nothing but, 'Faith and HOPE[change-- $0.05? today]'... the FIAT`ski!, issuing Executive Order #11615!!!
So, we have no moar 'Gold Standard', and because of Nixon's , and the 'Fat Mans',`Hank(?) fondness for China($?$)... Taiwan (ROC) loses its seat on the United Nations (UN) and is replaced by China in Oct/1971!?! But, to prove his word (?) and worth Tricky Dick meets vis-a-vis with Mao Zedong in China in early 1972! Hence, we have now (in real time?) reached, 'the year of our lord' 2013, approx. 42 years since the great inception with a mere eight (8) years left (2021?) for the glorious 'Golden Anniversary'-- the crowning/ adorning of the 'Golden (Real Gold) Dragon' that will surely be in control of the world tommorrow as it is surely today (with Russia's LOVE?) as we know it,... or is this all "MAD' gibberish?!?
thankyou Tyler
Nearly collide? I guess the world has gone soft.
This is how the ruskies used to roll - action starts about 2:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4jQhnXrWbg
rubbin is racing
Then again what business has a US guided missile cruiser actually have operating in the South China Sea?
THIS is one of the reasons that many people around the globe cannot stand Americans because they are right in your face on your very door step eye balling you.
They are provokateurs.
...and yet we continue to buy Chinese goods.
fundamental change coming to a city near you soon!
Endless money forms the sinews of war - Cicero.
Yay cold war military games.
Its funny how the most primitive instincts can collide 2 ship.
Noone has anything to win in a war nowadays... so it wont happen.
A game of high sea chickenfish
The Stockholm and the Andrea Doria: Studies in human error in maritime disasters...
Back in '56, the Italian outbound liner 'Andrea Doria', and the inbound Swedish merchant vessel 'Stockholm', collided with each other off the east coast of the United States, with no apparent explanation as to their meeting on an ocean vastly larger than the area described in this article I post on.
Niether one was a 'warship', and they both carried either passengers of merchandise; therefore mindful of the safety of their respective cargoes.
The officers in charge, however, BOTH fucked up, and misunderstood common protocols; and drove their ships IN TO each other.
"Hold on: how can two massive ships, visible to the naked eye and certainly to radar from hundreds of miles away, "nearly collide"?"
Well, BUCKWHEAT AUTHOR, this shit happens. It historically occurrs (as linked for historical reference), and it will happen again, no doubt. Dipshit!
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Andrea+doria+stolckholm&qpvt=Andrea+...
I suppose that the 'aut-oh-re-tiez' are out in the South China Sea, painting pretty little LINES for TRAFFIC, or something.
The Reuters report amounted to nothing.
Ships take "evasive" actions at great distance. A ship on a steady course, seeing another ship engaging in varied maneuvers will change course to give a wide berth. The report gave no useful information to believe it is anything more than best practices by the Captain.
Here is conversation what was recorded ;)
http://youtu.be/oei2lB9MBo0
You cannot destroy the Chinese Navy. They will be mysteronised and reappear with an identical looking crew in an identical looking ship...........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLBkYEzl700
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The US bully at it again, trying to provoke war to distract the masses
Is Bitcoin the part of finacial warfare? Chinese are buying Bitcoin like crazy and EBA has released the Action Plan How To Kill Bitcoin now:
European Banking Authority Warns Consumers On Virtual Currencies
EBA joins with its warning China, South Korea, Norway, France and other financial authorities from different countries. This warning and presented footprint for actions by authorities in order to attack and seize the assets involved is the most explicit among the ones we have seen so far. Unless Bitcoin is not the Special Op created by the FED to celebrate its Anniversary and 100 Year War On Gold, U.S. will follow soon with its actions. You can guess yourself whether it will be difficult to find evidence that some transactions on the particular exchange were involved in criminal activity and can affect Everybody Involved. Major risks according to EBA: You may lose your money on the exchange platform
Your money may be stolen from your digital wallet
You are not protected when using virtual currencies as a means of payment
The value of your virtual currency can change quickly, and could even drop to zero
Transactions in virtual currency may be misused for criminal activities, including money laundering
And the punchline and footprint for further actions against Crypto-Currencies:
Relax...
Driving While Asian by Commander Wei Noe See.
"nearly collide" I'm calling bullshit until I see the radar and plotter captures, which they have but betcha they will never show.
Can you spell FALSE FLAG?