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China's Lunar Probe Soft-Lands On The Moon, Carries China's First Moon Rover

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Hours ago, China's lunar probe Chang'e-3, carrying the nation's first moon rover onboard, successfully landed on the moon, making it the first time China has sent a spacecraft to soft land on the surface of an extraterrestrial body, joining only the US and the former Soviet Union in accomplishing such a feat. Chang'e-3 is the world's first soft-landing of a probe on the moon in nearly four decades. The last such soft-landing was carried out by the Soviet Union in 1976. As Reuters reports, the Chang'e 3, a probe named after a lunar goddess in traditional Chinese mythology, is carrying the solar-powered Yutu, or Jade Rabbit buggy, which will dig and conduct geological surveys. China has been increasingly ambitious in developing its space programs, for military, commercial and scientific purposes. This is a teaser to China's next space ambition - building its own space station. In its most recent manned space mission in June, three astronauts spent 15 days in orbit and docked with an experimental space laboratory, part of Beijing's quest to build a working space station by 2020.

According to Xinhua news service the spacecraft touched down in the Sinus Iridum, or the Bay of Rainbows, after hovering over the surface for several minutes seeking an appropriate place to land.

A soft landing does not damage the craft and the equipment it carries. As Reuters adds, in 2007, China put another lunar probe in orbit around the moon, which then executed a controlled crash on to its surface.

The Bay of Rainbows was selected because it has yet to be studied, has
ample sunlight and is convenient for remote communications with Earth,
Xinhua said.

China Central Television (CCTV) broadcast images of the probe's location on Saturday and a computer generated image of the probe on the surface of the moon on its website. The probe and the rover are expected to photograph each other tomorrow.


Xinhua's far prouder summary of the landing is below:

The lunar probe began to carry out soft-landing on the moon at 9 p.m. Saturday and touched down in Sinus Iridum, or the Bay of Rainbows, 11 minutes later, according to Beijing Aerospace Control Center.

During the process, the probe decelerated from 15 km above the moon, stayed hovering at 100 meters from the lunar surface to use sensors to assess the landing area to avoid obstacles and locate the final landing spot, and descended slowly onto the surface.

The success made China the third country, after the United States and the Soviet Union, to soft-land on the moon.

Compared to those other two countries, which have successfully conducted 13 soft-landings on the moon, China's soft-landing mission designed the suspension and obstacle-avoiding phases to survey the landing area much more precisely through fitted detectors, scientists said.

The probe's soft-landing is the most difficult task during the mission, said Wu Weiren, the lunar program's chief designer.

Chang'e-3 relied on auto-control for descent, range and velocity measurements, finding the proper landing point, and free-falling.

The probe is equipped with shock absorbers in its four "legs" to cushion the impact of the landing, making Chang'e-3 the first Chinese spacecraft with "legs."

Chang'e-3 adopted a variable thrust engine completely designed and made by Chinese scientists. It can realize continuous variation of thrust power ranging from 1,500 to 7,500 newtons, according to Wu Weiren.

The soft-landing was carried out 12 days after the probe blasted off on an enhanced Long March-3B carrier rocket.

Chang'e-3 includes a lander and a moon rover called "Yutu" (Jade Rabbit).

Yutu's tasks include surveying the moon's geological structure and surface substances and looking for natural resources. The lander will operate there for one year while the rover will be there for three months.

Chang'e-3 is part of the second phase of China's lunar program, which includes orbiting, landing and returning to the Earth. It follows the success of the Chang'e-1 and Chang'e-2 missions in 2007 and 2010.

The successful landing shows China has the ability of in-situ exploration on an extraterrestrial body, said Sun Huixian, deputy engineer-in-chief in charge of the second phase of China's lunar program.

A renewed moon fever has sprung up in recent years following the lunar probe climax in the 1960s and 1970s.

Chang'e-3 is the world's first soft-landing of a probe on the moon in nearly four decades. The last such soft-landing was carried out by the Soviet Union in 1976.

"Compared to the last century's space race between the United States and the former Soviet Union, mankind's current return to the moon is more based on curiosity and exploration of the unknown universe," Sun said.

"China's lunar program is an important component of mankind's activities to explore peaceful use of space," according to the engineer-in-chief.

For an ancient civilization like China, landing on the moon embodies another meaning. The moon, a main source for inspiration, is one of the most important themes in Chinese literature and ancient Chinese myths, including that about Chang'e, a lady who took her pet "Yutu" to fly toward the moon, where she became a goddess.

"Though people have discovered that the moon is bleached and desolate, it doesn't change its splendid role in Chinese traditional culture," said Zhang Yiwu, a professor with Peking University.

"Apart from scientific exploration, the lunar probe is a response to China's traditional culture and imagination. China's lunar program will proceed with the beautiful legends," Zhang said.

"I am so excited about the news. It carries my space dream," a netizen "Roger-Kris" posted on the Sina Weibo. "I am now so interested in space and I want to study science when I go to college."

"I am looking forward to seeing more pictures sent back by Chang'e-3," he said.


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Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:07 | 4246491 Sudden Debt
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It's just sad we haven't gone any further in it since the 70's...

all we got was Kubrics tablets...

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:07 | 4246496 The man with po...
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It's said the aliens scared NASA away...

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:18 | 4246523 So What
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In one hundred years, all the space accomplishments of the USA will be a footnote, a small footnote in humanity's quest for space exploration and eventual colonization. The Chinese think along term, hundreds of years, and plan for such ventures. The first man on Mars will probably be Chinese or Russians.
While USA is sucked dry by middle east and Israhell and its goons.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:45 | 4246583 Future Jim
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The Funger Games


If you can understand The Funger Games, then you can understand how the world really works because …

You better wake up. The world you live in is just a sugar-coated topping! There is another world beneath it: the real world.

Yes … I just quoted Blade.

The Funger Games is where the Federal Reserve calls forth the 6 most favored banks (who own the Federal Reserve) and says to them:

The Federal Reserve shall distribute 3 trillion dollars amongst you – the chosen people – at zero percent interest. You must take your share and you are not allowed to pay it back for 100 years.


The 3 trillion shall enter the economy regardless of your actions; however, the chosen people are not equally worthy. Your share shall be determined by a series of puzzles that will be more easily solved by all the best young minds in engineering, mathematics, and the physical sciences.


To acquire and protect all the best young minds in science and engineering, you must construct a sword and a shield made from all the best minds in business, law, and politics.


Those who acquire the most minds shall win the largest share.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:16 | 4246635 SafelyGraze
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NASA reports "near collision" between its rover and the chinese rover

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:25 | 4246655 Harlequin001
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No chance of that, the NASA rover isn't there...

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:33 | 4246671 BigJim
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Frankly, I prefer the Chinese version of Hope and Chang'e to ours.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 15:00 | 4246709 Headbanger
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Then go fucking live there and see how you like it you mook!

And we all know the Nazis have colonized the moon since 1945!

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 15:07 | 4246742 mjcOH1
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"It's just sad we haven't gone any further in it since the 70's...

all we got was Kubrics tablets..."


But we gots the EBT, yo!

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 15:46 | 4246795 sixsigma cygnus...
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You know, maybe the Chinese can help us out a little and bring back the real Consumer Price Index.  You know, while they're up there and all.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 15:32 | 4246787 snodgrass
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The Chinese are a very racist group. If the Chink communist party was willing to eliminate 85 million of their own, what do you think they will do to you? Currently they are buying up property in the US which they will fill with their own. They will bribe local officials and turn America into China light full of people who breed like rats and treat others like roaches.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 17:16 | 4246964 Bunga Bunga
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How many of their own have Americans killed?

Sun, 12/15/2013 - 02:52 | 4247837 Tijuana Donkey Show
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Uh, that is America buddy. 'Cept everyone is a roach.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 16:01 | 4246830 Zero Point
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Yeah... I believe the Chinese will walk on the moon though. Heh.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 16:28 | 4246870 Manthong
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They ought to name the site “The Clinton/Loral Point”.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:03 | 4246612 Bad Attitude
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The $15T spent on the "War on Poverty" (a.k.a. buying loyal Democrat voters) would have paid for a lot of space exploration. And, we would have had something to show for it.

Instead, that $15T has only bought us a growing dependency class who we fear will destroy everything if their SNAP cards don't get refilled.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:06 | 4246620 Future Jim
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What is wrong with the People can also also be explained as an indirect effect of The Funger Games.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:56 | 4246722 Headbanger
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Sum Ting Wong Witu

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 15:06 | 4246737 Future Jim
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When am I going to learn to conform ...

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:47 | 4246697 A Nanny Moose
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All government funded projects merely jobs programs for the unproductive.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 16:34 | 4246885 zerozulu
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Priorities have changed. Now we spend US$95,000 daily on defaming Islam and Muslims.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 17:49 | 4247002 roadhazard
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Lets not forget Vietnam, Star Wars, Iraq, Afghanistan, trillion dollah PER YEAR military and black OPs all the way down to the repubican'ts $24 billion Gov. shut down loss on top of 40 House votes at $24 million each to keep the House open for that day to down vote Obama care. 

I can keep going if you want.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 16:11 | 4246842 Anusocracy
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The first man on Mars will be Elon Musk in an attempt to avoid lawsuits over the Tesla cars.

Sun, 12/15/2013 - 15:19 | 4248662 macbone
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Macbone says: "Don't fuck with the Wongs."

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:34 | 4246555 Blood Spattered...
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Yes, I've heard the same.  The end of lunar missions was very abrupt. Given all of the HE3 that could possibly be mined, it's puzzling why we don't have a base there already. 

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:11 | 4246506 y3maxx
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...and a Second Chinese Probe on its way to "Uranus".

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:16 | 4246520 Midas
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Where are they going to source the drywall for the space station?

Sun, 12/15/2013 - 01:26 | 4247748 mkkby
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Stupid chinks.  Took only 45 years to copy cat what US got bored with.  Dumb asses still eat with wooden sticks.  Can't even figure out the fork and spoon. 

Anybody want a free vacant city with their chop suey?

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:34 | 4246556 Ignatius
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No probes Chinese or otherwise, thanks.

However, brown rings have been discovered around Uranus.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:54 | 4246575 Pegasus Muse
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Remember Jeff Foxworthy?  You might be a Redneck if .... 


   1. You think "loading the dishwasher" means getting your wife drunk.

   2. You ever cut your grass and found a car.

   3. You own a home that is mobile and 5 cars that aren't.

   4. You think the stock market has a fence around it.

   5. Your stereo speakers used to belong to the Drive-in Theater. 



Well, you might be a Demented Paranoid Fascist Socialist Sociopath if ....


    1. You trade in your world class Space Program for a massive illegal unconstitutional evil Spy Program.  

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:48 | 4246699 A Nanny Moose
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...along with a few Klingons.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:58 | 4246721 Son of Loki
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"If you want to keep the Moon, you can keep the moon."

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:22 | 4246528 Bangin7GramRocks
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And they promptly built 3 highways, 4 shopping malls and housing for 200,000.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:37 | 4246566 666
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Word has it that they're gonna ship their smog to the moon in the next phase.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:23 | 4246536 Jumbotron
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Well....we actually got HAL too.  He won on Jeopardy  You're right.......sad.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:35 | 4246560 Pullmyfinger
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You clearly haven't read 'Hunt for the Zero Point' by Jane's Defense editor, Nick Cook. The US space program really just went "underground" :)

Bear in mind these two items: 1)NASA was chartered by, and still remains under the control of, the Defense Dept. It always was just a military operation with a public gloss; and 2) Space, to the military mind, represents the "high ground"; the military/industrial complex would never, ever have actually allowed the development of space faring technologies --particularly those of propulsion-- to cease. Rest assured, the break-away civilization of Western oligarchy is still at least forty-some years ahead of the Chinese.

Unfortunately, it seems self-defeating to feel any shared pride in such an accomplishment. Best to root for the Chinese for now.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:28 | 4246666 LetThemEatRand
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The Chinese get a shiny rover on the moon.  We Americans get NROL-39 (the NSA rocket carrying the picture of an octopus surrounding the earth, and the slogan "nothing is beyond our reach.")

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:32 | 4246669 Shrapnel
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@Pullmyfinger - Agreed on all points. And the book 'The Hunt For Zero Point' is excellent and extremely well researched. I would highly recommend it to fellow ZH readers!

Very much like the US economy, the reality of the US space program is vastly different than what most think(and are strategically lead to believe). The technology and space capabilities of the breakaway civilization far exceed what most people can even imagine.

I'm just hoping the Chinese might be honest about at least some of what's on the moon. The US Govt and those running it would much sooner have civil war than share with us taxpayers any truth about what's really going on "off-world". This subject above all others is the reason I no longer look upon our flag the same way I once did.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 15:35 | 4246790 Pullmyfinger
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Are you familiar with the articles on this site:

The author has a frequently annoying writing style, somewhat reminiscent to speech patterns of the Bowery Boys-- but if you can get past that, you may recognize that he's done some excellent investigative work. I was personally able to corroborate his findings on the "Hale Crater Civilization" by locating a second photograph in the European Space Agency archives that showed the same images, but as seen from a different perspective and time of day.

Specifically, see:

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 17:04 | 4246945 11b40
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Agreed, Pullmyfinger.  There is much paranoia about China among many on ZH and elsewhere, but if you get away from their cities and out into the vast countryside, you quickly learn what a big peasant class there is.  Their problems are just as vast, and their bubble is bigger than ours.  America's economy is about 14 times bigger than theirs, and we have about 1/3 the population.  We also have the resources to be self-sufficient if need be.  Without trade with America and Europe, they wither and die in the uprising that would surely come.  The Communist Party has a pretty good grip on things ... so long as they keep growing, keep greasing enough palms, and keep food inflation in check.  Otherwise, it's tits up for their system of controlled Mercantilism.

That, however, does not erase our own problems, as we drift ever closer to total Fascism.


Sat, 12/14/2013 - 18:36 | 4246995 Pullmyfinger
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I am in complete agreement on most counts; however, you have not been tracking developments relative to the immense flow of gold into China, draining the vaults of the LBMA and the Comex, etc. Your worldview is still largely just an extension of America's current consensus reality into the immediate future. I have considerable reasons to expect otherwise, and that an abrupt reset is pending, most likely beginning during the first half of 2014. China is getting ready for that day; we are not.

All this precedes the approach of an entirely different system of trade being set by BRICS that circumvents SWIFT and the western banking system in general, based partly on the use of Gold Certificates. True, America clearly most certainly does have the essential resources to rise again --once we've passed through the darkness.

I would recommend the last few articles of Jim Willie as one way to get you up to speed. He has a bizarre syntax and style, but pay attention. After following him since the day he set up his website, I've never known him to really be wrong.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 18:12 | 4247030 johny2
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14 times bigger? 1/3 population? where are you getting your statistics?

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:18 | 4246641 Jannn
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Shanghai Gold Exchange Physical Delivery Equals Chinese Demand, Part 2

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:45 | 4246696 Flatchestynerdette
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Its because we became the equivalent of Space Uhaul (with the shuttles) during the 80s instead of becoming Space explorers (with the shuttles to other planets by using them as airplanes).


Now NASA's mission is outreach to muslims.

Say what?!?

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 19:41 | 4247159 Telemakhos
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Partly this, except that the Space Airplanes To Other Planets weren't ever going to work out, because of things like physics.

For those with short memories, Charles Bolden, head of NASA, went to Egypt a few years back, where he gave an interview saying:

When I became the NASA administrator, [President Obama] charged me with three things.  One, he wanted me to help re-inspire children to want to get into science and math; he wanted me to expand our international relationships; and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science, math and engineering.

Note that he never mentions space exploration.  Not once.  NASA isn't about exploration now.  We already learned that there's nothing to explore within reach, and no cost-effective way of exploring most of that.  NASA is a science education (ant-farms-in-space) motivator, a jobs program that collaborates with our friends to show them how friendly and sciency we are, and a feel-good program for everyone.  The cutting-edge development was always CIA/NRO and the black projects like the X-37b (USAF, not NASA).  Once the commercial programs take off with lower cost, private launches for the non-military stuff, NASA will have very little reason to stick around, but you'll never be able to cut it because it makes too many people feel good (yay NASA and Captain Kirk making a new utopia for humanity in the stars or something).

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 22:21 | 4247441 MeBizarro
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Manned-space exploration?  Yes but NASA still is launching a ton of other things that frankly return a hell of a lot more bang for the buck.  In an ideal world, I would love to see manned space exploration and a goal of a space colony by say 2050 but the money simply isn't there especially with such an uncertain payback. 

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 15:07 | 4246740 Pooper Popper
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Haro biga moon!

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 15:46 | 4246807 rubiconsolutions
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Extreme Chinese food take out.

Neil Armstrong - "I'll take the Kung Pao Chicken and Crispy Ginger Beef. Don't forget the fortune cookies"

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 16:06 | 4246835 algol_dog
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They can have the moon. I'll take the Kardashians and Lady Gaga anytime ...

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 18:36 | 4247049 Jumbotron
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I SURE as hell hope you said that with a shit ton of sarcasm. can have the moon and Kim Kardashian's ass as well........<ahem>



Sat, 12/14/2013 - 17:40 | 4246997 Larry Dallas
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Houston we have a probrem!

Joking aside, not too many kids in the US aspire to be anything more than living in their parents basement playing video games and smoking pot.


Sat, 12/14/2013 - 18:29 | 4247044 Jumbotron
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The least the Chinese could do is bow and say " Tank you veddy much" for all the trillions of dollars we are giving them in manufacturing work which is in part funding their ambitions in space.


Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:06 | 4246493 Obadiah
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good one

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:07 | 4246494 Mr Pink
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Big deal! Merica sent astronauts to the moon over 4 decades ago in a modified tin can!

Stick that in your radiation belt, Bitchez!

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:26 | 4246539 cypherk1
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The problem is we could not send back a tin can with humans if our life depended on it. Nasa only fly's rockets on paper now. I have seen this attitude in the news articles and other places. Oh Soviets and US have already doen this. What about in 2040 when China has a colony on Mars and we are just sitting around waiting for SSI that will never come?

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:51 | 4246593 Future Jim
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The solution is Title IX in science and engineering. /sarc

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 16:46 | 4246902 Ident 7777 economy
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Title IX - Girl's basketball?



Sat, 12/14/2013 - 16:52 | 4246919 Future Jim
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Title IX is the Supreme Court mandate that requires an equal number of dollars and participants for male and female athletes within any given university.

Obama's campaign web site made the well known Democratic Party pledge to seek Title IX for science and engineering students as well.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 19:53 | 4247176 Telemakhos
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There's no reason to send back a tin can with humans.  We went to the moon and learned that it was cold, dead, and useless for colonization.  We found that physics has stern laws, like E=MC^2, which tells us that we won't be going very far in the span of a human lifetime.

Instead, it would be better to spend the resources on technology here.  Thorium reactors and other new forms of energy could give us a newfound wealth that would, combined with some wisdom, allow us to end poverty.  We could spend the money curing cancer and the common cold, eradicating polio and other diseases that should have been eliminated by the time the first moon landing took place, and ending starvation by finding new ways to eliminate pestilence and crop failures.  We could build the kind of future that we used to imagine, back when science fiction dreamt of gleaming cities and universal riches and contentment rather than the post-apocalyptic wastelands our children now think is their only future.

But, we won't.  We'll send money-shot after money-shot into the void for show, to show them commies that America can still send men to the moon.  Meanwhile maybe the Indians will develop those thorium reactors…

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 21:57 | 4247390 Curiously_Crazy
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America can still send men to the moon. 

These days, only with a Russian spacecraft and crew.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:07 | 4246495 Fuh Querada
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Anywhere near the Apollo lunar landing site in the Nevada desert?

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:20 | 4246526 Gummo
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on the flat earth right?

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:09 | 4246498 FieldingMellish
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They'll need more gold for the radiation shielding. Wonder if they are standing for delivery on the Comex?

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:12 | 4246505 Cognitive Dissonance
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Everyone smile and say 'cheese'.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:11 | 4246507 Stuck on Zero
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Meanwhile the United States has launched the fifty-ninth reality TV series. 


Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:12 | 4246511 The man with po...
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Who needs space exploration when you have sci-fi... and twerking?

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:22 | 4246534 cossack55
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and don't forget Amerikas new dynasty involving ducks.  

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:39 | 4246565 mumcard
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That's one small twerk for great leap forward for Han-kind.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:15 | 4246515 Ignatius
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'Reality' in quotes, please.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:12 | 4246508 Ignatius
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Park it adjacent to Apollo 11 and send us those pictures.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 15:58 | 4246825 Kirk2NCC1701
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+1.  You get my nomination for Best Post on this article.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 18:15 | 4247033 Tall Tom
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That would send a loud message. Perhaps the US Government might wake up?


Nahhhh. The people in the US Government are too busy masturbating to the video of Miley Twerking.


"Ahhh..yessss...Just lost my nut. Who cares about the fucking Moon when I can watch Miley's Moon and dream about fucking her?"


The US Government is filled with a bunch of perverts, dreaming of fucking kids, demented pedophiles. Even the CIA endorses the behavior as told by the US Serviceman in the following video...


Nobody was convicted as the video has only been online for FIVE YEARS. Now these Soldiers are back in the USA targeting American Children. That is how good the NSA is. They just cannot even find the video...and even if they did...they have NO INCENTIVE TO PROSECUTE THESE SOLDIERS.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:12 | 4246510 max2205
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But when did nsa know?

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:05 | 4246611 mumcard
Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:15 | 4246516 sampo
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The Chang'e you can believe in?

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:52 | 4246711 A Nanny Moose
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The Chang'e you can berieve in



Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:15 | 4246517 q99x2
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Makes you wonder why the military doesn't go after the globalists that took over the United States of America. Dudes don't be chicken they only have mercenaries you have honor.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 18:11 | 4247026 Jam Akin
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They are piecemeal purging senior officers as fast as they appear untrustworthy

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:17 | 4246519 I Write Code
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If true it's a disturbing accomplishment, shows they can actually master this level of complexity and can presumably apply the same to high-tech weapons.  Neither Japan nor Soviet/Russia has much of a good record in space, Europe has done a few decent satellites and missions, but overall the US has been the only one who really could, and did.  Not hardly anymore, when our whole budget goes for Obamaphones and nonfunctional websites and solar panels that cost 10x what the Chinese can sell them for.   Next stop for the Chinese is to soft-land a probe in Los Angeles and see if they can find any intelligent life there.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:22 | 4246532 Gutenberg
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No they are landing in Detroit and buying the entire city. Best Chinese food in the country soon to be in Detroit.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:49 | 4246588 Mae Kadoodie
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I'll be impressed when the Chinese probe Uranus.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:10 | 4246622 dick cheneys ghost
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pass the sweet and sour shrimp.........


Sat, 12/14/2013 - 18:47 | 4247063 honestann
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If anyone would like to give me and my friends a few million bucks, we'll soft land a probe on the moon too.  Make it $25 million and we'll do the same on Mars.

I say that not to brag... I just wonder if anyone here realizes how much more difficult this sort of project was in the 1960s, with 1960s technology.  For anyone who doesn't know, the answer is VASTLY.  Not saying it is easy, but a dozen or three creative, talented, energetic scientists and engineers today could do something like that.  But how many small groups of pioneers has that kind of money rattling around in their pockets?  Answer, not many.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:21 | 4246530 Fix It Again Timmy
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We're light-years ahead of the Chinese on Flim-Flam Finance...

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:23 | 4246531 IrritableBowels
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like the real moon or the one in florida?

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:27 | 4246540 Jumbotron
Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:32 | 4246549 Buckaroo Banzai
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Kubrick's wife just came out and said he did indeed film the fake moon landings.

I for one believe that both theories are correct-- that we did land on the moon, and that Kubrick also filmed fake landings.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:22 | 4246651 Yenbot
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Astute. Horizon...

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 18:36 | 4247050 disabledvet
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that's why the whole OJ thing went down. He was about to come clean on the whole "lunar landings are fake" thing and the next thing you know...

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:27 | 4246538 Mr Pink
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I'll be impressed when someone lands a probe on the moon AND SENDS IT BACK!

Hear that NASA? You did it in the 60's so it should be a piece of cake, right? 

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:29 | 4246547 Jumbotron
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REALLY impress me when we start flying Eagles.........



Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:40 | 4246570 Ignatius
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Couldn't help but note all the A-list actors in this space drama.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 15:27 | 4246776 Jumbotron
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They were A-List for their time both in America and Britain.....seeing as how this was a British series that was imported into the States in the 70's.  I was two years old when Star Trek was going on.  Space 1999 was my first appointment television as a kid and a kind of Star Trek experience for me.

In fact......Gerry Anderson the creator of the show and the man behind Thunderbirds and U.F.O. gave NASA permission to use the EAGLE transport vehicle as a design platform for whenever NASA decides to go back to the
Moon in a serious way.  He would not charge any royalty fees as long as NASA acknowledged to everyone that it was his design.

More info on Gerry here....


Sat, 12/14/2013 - 15:29 | 4246780 Jumbotron
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BTW.....if you ever felt the urge to make an EAGLE out of popsicle ya go.


Sat, 12/14/2013 - 18:44 | 4247057 Tall Tom
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The Eagle looks much better as a Paper Model. Furthermore it can be converted to Fly by Rocket Power.


Here is my video of my PAPER Space Shuttle in flight at a DART Meeting at Fiesta Island in Mission Bay, San Diego, CA.


You can build all sorts of Models out of Paper that put Plastic Models to shame. All on the following site are downloadable for free.


These are not "plans". You cut the parts from the Print outs, Roll, Fold, and assemble.


I even have built some of the ISS from Paper. Still working on it.  (This is a Pay Site.)

Sun, 12/15/2013 - 09:32 | 4248026 Jumbotron
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Excellent link to the paper models.  As well as the video of your shuttle launch.  Almost real as your shuttle banks around to come in for the landing.   LOL !!   Well done !

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 22:24 | 4247446 Karl von Bahnhof
Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:31 | 4246552 Svendblaaskaeg
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Wink wink nudge nudge saynomore..

"A rich rocket scientist organizes an expedition to the moon, which they discover is inhabited by nude women"

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:39 | 4246569 booboo
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Who gives a shit, we shared every bit of information we learned including all our missile tech. Wandering around in shallow space looking for "invisible men" sounds like a religious adventure to me

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:39 | 4246571 Emergency Ward
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"China Lands Lunar Probe, USA Bombs Muslim Wedding"

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:43 | 4246578 1stepcloser
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Great Ghost Cities on the moon now!

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:42 | 4246579 Bangin7GramRocks
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It's like building obnoxious sky scrapers. A moon mission is a horrible mis allocation of capital. This says to me that the US may actually outlast China. Europe is done and so is Japan. Junk all you want, but these years of faking trillions may take us over the finish line to world domination. It will be us and Russsia left standing when everything blows.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:46 | 4246585 shovelhead
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China has sent a spacecraft to soft land on the surface of an extraterrestrial body

Crouching Tiger, Floating Pig.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 13:53 | 4246592 LetThemEatRand
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It's about time they started delivering to the moon.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:19 | 4246640 squexx
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Chinese food to the moon in 30 hours or less, or your food is free!

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 15:51 | 4246812 1stepcloser
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I understand Lun Duck dong is now accepting EBTs.  So its free no matter what!

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:01 | 4246606 Wile-E-Coyote
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If we ever get off this rock the universe is fucked.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 15:02 | 4246729 DollarMenu
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Don't you think that 'The Universe" knows that?

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:02 | 4246609 IridiumRebel
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My country is run by fags.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:07 | 4246617 Hubbs
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Hmm, after 40 years China is finally able to land a moon rover? Took them long enough. Must be some kind of snafu in their technology espionage system!

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:18 | 4246638 squexx
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The technical secrets were misplaced in Israel for a couple decades. The Israeli's finally found them and sold them to China, just like they do everything the USA gives to them!

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:14 | 4246632 Beard of Zeus
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China put a lunar probe on the moon?


Big deal, that's nothing!


America put a monkey in the White House.


America FUCK YEAH!!!


Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:14 | 4246633 Bryan
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Hey.  They can't do that!  It's OUR moon!  We claimed it and even stuck a flag in it.  I say shoot down any moon-going objects from China post haste!

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:32 | 4246668 LoneStarHog
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China, will you please have the rover transmit images of America's landing spots?  Thanks!

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 15:04 | 4246731 DollarMenu
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And some pics of the other side, the place we can't see from here.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 15:26 | 4246771 Joe A
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Yes and make them selfies (a word that I can't stand to hear any longer).

Sun, 12/15/2013 - 12:37 | 4248219 _SILENCER
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Just drive out to Arizona and Nevada where they shot all the background plates

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:47 | 4246700 NIHILIST CIPHER

OH, WE GOT YOU NOW LOUND-EYE !!!   (And it only took them forty years to catch up) Fuck the Chicoms.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:51 | 4246707 NIHILIST CIPHER

And who financed China's landing rover?    Been to Walmart lately?

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 14:53 | 4246712 post turtle saver
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the reason nothing has been done with the moon since '76 on the US side is because the US had moved on... two Viking landers on Mars in '76... followed up by Pathfinder in '97 and the Mars rovers in 2003...the latter were designed for 90 days of operation, only one of the two has failed after five mission extensions and an elapsed mission time of over _six years_, the other is still fully functional... the MERs were such a marvel of engineering design that they had asteroids named after them in honor of the teams that built them... the parachute design alone _to successfully land in an alien atmosphere_ was incredible work

folks the Chinese are so far behind in this arena it's laughable... if it wasn't for all the flaming idiots in this thread worrying about the Chinese all the time it wouldn't be worth posting about... the Chinese should have sent a couple of hardened Roombas up there to clean up all the stuff the US left behind, that way their mission would actually be useful and of interest

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 15:05 | 4246738 MrButtoMcFarty
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And look at us now....a nation of fat dumb sheep led by an emptysuit bathhouse bankster fluffer....that sure worked out well!!

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 15:11 | 4246749 NeverForgetSilver
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There is no need to clean up US junk since it is not there.


Chinese space program has been very conservative and restraint on spending so it can outlast everyone else. All the engineers are in their 20s-30s. When US “supposed” to land on the moon, China was in state of poverty. It is amazing how far they have gone and how steady it has been. The success rate is amazing.

In comparison, US space program looks exhausted.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 16:41 | 4246900 post turtle saver
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please... save your breath to cool your mush... if you knew how little money actually goes into the US programs every year you wouldn't have bothered to open your mouth... compare the MERs budget with the current ChiCom lunar laughingstock and then compare what was accomplished... the Chinese are late third stringers in space, period... even India's space program is better... as for this wacky "US never went to the moon" crap, you just keep on with that wishful line of thinking... China is third to the moon and is a long way from attempting to put boots on the ground there... now grab a hefty bag and make yourself useful

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 17:23 | 4246973 NeverForgetSilver
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Hi calm down, my friend. I am Canadian and an observer. To be fair to the Chinese, they never received any help from other countries on their space program and come to this stage solely by themselves, contrary to the Indian experience. Their program has a long term vision and they go step by step. I travel to both US and China very often and I can see the contrast of a failing star and a rising one. I wish both of them well but I seriously doubt the vision of your leaders.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 19:23 | 4247125 Tall Tom
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Bullshit. The Chinese stole Russian Technology for the Shenzhou Spacecraft. It is a copy of the Russian Soyuz. They also stole Russian Technology for their Space Station, Tiangong-1. It is a copy of the Russian MIR Space Station.


Both Russian Spacecraft are EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL DESIGNS. (In fact MIR-II IS the Service Module of the CURRENT International Space Station.)


The Chinese are NOT INNOVATIVE. They STEAL TECHNOLOGY. This is the true reason that the Chinese have been EXCLUDED from the International Space Station as the International Partners do not want to allow the Chinese to steal anymore Technology from the West. (The EXCUSE was that China does not have the experience in Docking....which they have demonstrated is not the case.)


Americans are INNOVATIVE. We design a Technology...use it...then WE TRASH IT for a completely New Design. Mercury was trashed for Gemini. Gemini was trashed for Apollo. Apollo was trashed for the Space Shuttle. Skylab, the World's FIRST Space Station, which had more livable workplace Volume than the ISS until the late addition of the Japanese Kibo Module, was Trashed for the much smaller US Modules for the ISS. The Saturn V, a working Heavy Lift Launch Vehicle, a behemoth, was Trashed and never replaced. Nobody has come close to the Weight that the Saturn V was able to loft to LEO...(Well...the Russian Energia was closer but was abandoned. The Soviet NK Moon Booster failed on ALL Flights.)  This approach, by the United States proves itself costly.

The Russians have a different approach. They find a design that works and proves RELIABLE. They stick with that design. The Soyuz has been flying since 1967. But the R-7 Rocket, used as the First Stage of the Soyuz Launch Vehicle, was first used in October, 1957, to launch Sputnik into orbit to become the World's first satellite. It is the same Booster that launched  Vostok into orbit on April 12, 1961, and orbited Yuri Gagarin***.   That same Booster is still used TODAY to launch Soyuz into LEO.


(***Or, perhaps not??? There is some controversey as Ilanyovich was possibly the cosmonaut launched, was injured badly, survived disfigured and disabled, and Gagarin took his place for image's sake.)

Soley by themselves??? What planet are you living on???  Bullshit.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 20:10 | 4247193 NeverForgetSilver
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I find your posts biased and offensive. Every country steals from others to certain degree. US is among the worst. They not only steal from other countries, but also from their friends and their own citizens. Wake up.

All western countries are very hostile to China not because of China itself but for being viewed as a rival.   Common sense tells you that if everyone keeps secrete from you, you can only create your own to prosper. This has been the case for China in all areas especially those related to military. Nowadays, you can see a complete spectrum of technologies flourishing in China. I went there several times in recent years and I saw it with my own eyes. This new episode is just another wakeup call. You’d better get it.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 20:24 | 4247213 post turtle saver
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pretending that you're great doesn't make you great, especially when you do it by walking in someone else's footsteps after they pioneered the way... it's 2013 and woo hoo, China puts up an unmanned rover *on the Moon* lol... what a joke... you can visit China a million times and that fact will never change... China is on the podium with a bronze moon medal pretending that they're innovative and leading the way... lol what a riot, tell it to the peasants back home, no one in the US is gonna buy that line

China doesn't even care about intellectual property, yet you have the audacity to say the US is among the worst thieves in that area... you're clearly talking out of your ass if you believe that, I've dealt directly with the likes of Huawei and their ilk, those guys are fucking crooks... auditing? transparency? simply does not exist in China... lol dude you're killing me over here with your ignorance, it's ridiculously funny

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 22:22 | 4247423 NeverForgetSilver
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Being cynical is not the solution. May I advice you and your government to face the challenge with an open mind. Competition improves the quality of life for all people. At early 20th century, British Prime Minister made fun of Americans as being engineers instead of scientists. In less than 50 years, Great Britain became a puppy state of US. History repeats.

BTW, the rudeness in these posts makes me sick. I will stop here.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 22:30 | 4247461 MeBizarro
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Maybe you have a point but there is almost ZERO respect for China in terms of intellectual property of any kind and it is a cultural thing even more so than an economic thing.  Physical theft of something is viewed quite differently but not intellectual theft of an idea.

Now granted the US did the same thing on a large scale in the late 19th and early 20th century from European countries especially the British and Germans but the US also was able to and has been able to engage in a global brain drain since the end of the second WW2.   The question for the Chinese is just how creative are there state universitites going to be and just how many highly Chinese-educated young students are going to be willing to go back and settled in China.  China certainly won't encourage immigration of outsiders nor welcome them. 

Sun, 12/15/2013 - 08:48 | 4248001 Zwelgje
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The NSA is more about industrial espionage than it is about spying on little people who post on ZH.

Who will want to come to America in ten years from now? Work for Bitcoin?

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 19:08 | 4247106 johny2
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How much money goes to US programs than? 

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 19:37 | 4247152 Tall Tom
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About 0.5% of the Budget goes to NASA for all of their programs. They get about $15 Billion per year for everything. This has been going on for the past Forty Five Years. That is the reason why they have not been able to advance. If Congress doubled it we'd have an Operational Moon Base. But they trashed Bush's plans to retire the Shuttle AND develop Project Constellation. They just cancelled the Shuttle and Obama hates Space Exploration. Anything that will make us stronger, Obama hates.


(Mining Helium 3 would provide an abundance of inexpensive fuel for Fusion Reactors and liberate us from Fossil Fuel AND the Poisonous Fission Reactors. The Moon is loaded with it being bombarded by the Solar Wind for the past 4 Billion Years. It is clean Energy and produces no Nuclear waste.)

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 20:12 | 4247195 post turtle saver
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indeed... imagine what our space program would look like if the monthly QE purchases went to a manned Mars expedition... hell the US would have it terraformed and turned into the 51st state by now...

Sun, 12/15/2013 - 00:15 | 4247651 johny2
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if we are to believe usa and the chinese officals, that still is about 15 usd billion more than chinese spend per year ( 0.5 usd billion ) without mentioning the defence budgets. 

While USA may have all kinds of technology hidden from the public knowledge, china is catching up and will one day possibly overtake USA. The talk that chinese can only copy the innovations is a silly talk. Copying is just the most cost effective way to catch up with the competitors.

I for one look at these landings as another small step for the China in their advance. Good luck to them. 

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 15:07 | 4246735 Afrispaans
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At last! The Chinese soft landing we've all been waiting for!

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 15:05 | 4246736 Iam Yue2
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Gil Scott-Heron: Whitey on the moon.

A rat done bit my sister Nell.
(with Whitey on the moon)
Her face and arms began to swell.
(and Whitey's on the moon)
I can't pay no doctor bill.
(but Whitey's on the moon)
Ten years from now I'll be payin' still.
(while Whitey's on the moon)
The man jus' upped my rent las' night.
('cause Whitey's on the moon)
No hot water, no toilets, no lights.
(but Whitey's on the moon)

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 16:36 | 4246886 mumcard
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Crack kills.  At least some personal choices have the reward built in.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 19:48 | 4247172 Tall Tom
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That is okay. The Chinese deserve that Inexpensive Helium 3 Energy as America devolves into a Third World Nation. Then Whitey won't be able to pay for his Doctor bill either as we become enslaved to the Chinese.


And deserve it as you are so BLIND with racism and hatred. It gives you that Bitempoal Hemianopia and myopia, both debilitating forms of BLINDNESS.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 15:12 | 4246748 whoopsing
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The landers primary mission is to build a road and take a crap on the side of it

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 15:20 | 4246758 22winmag
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Does anyone here seriously believe man has been to the moon and back?


Just checking.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 15:27 | 4246774 Bobportlandor
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Give them a few years and the man on the moon will be wearing a mask.



Sat, 12/14/2013 - 16:29 | 4246873 NuYawkFrankie
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China puts a probe on the Moon..

TSA goes one better: puts a probe on Ur-anus

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 16:37 | 4246892 earleflorida
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FWIW dept:    One of the coldest spots in the known universe in on the 'dark-side' of the moon... in what is supposed to be a crater-like-hole, deeper than the grand canyons!

Why is this of importance?

It is huge, PERIOD!!!

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 17:06 | 4246950 Goldilocks
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Van Halen - Dreams (Blue Angels) (4:51)

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 17:15 | 4246961 Bunga Bunga
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And the Chinese rover will find the golf ball.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 17:26 | 4246979 PennilessPauper
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44° 5'28.85"N 31°29'29.87"W

Using Google Earth on Moon mode.  Pretty low resolution in this area.  Maybe Google can buy new high resolution images from China later this year?


Sat, 12/14/2013 - 17:35 | 4246989 ncdirtdigger
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did the chinese probe nearly collide with a US probe?

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