China Slams Abe's "Malicious Slander"; Warns Japan Is "Doomed To Failure"

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Overnight rhetoric in Asia became increasingly heated when China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs expressed "strong dissastisfaction" at the slanderous actions of Abe's Japanese government over the Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ) and the "theft and embezzlement" of the Diaoyu Islands. "Japan's attempt is doomed to failure," China warned ominously and as we highlight below, a reflection on the possible rational reasons for China and Japan to go to war over the Senkaku/Diaoyu islands highlights the seriousness of the ongoing brinksmanship in the East China Sea. If a war is fought over these long-contested islands, it will have an eminently rational explanation underlying all the historical mistrust and nationalism on the surface. War in the East China Sea is possible, despite the economic costs.


The 'triangle' of doom in the East China Sea...



Via Google Translate,

Q: Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe held in Japan recently - especially during the ASEAN summit, accusing China to unilaterally change the status of the East China Sea, East China Sea, said China's air defense identification zone designation is improper for the high seas against the freedom of overflight, asked China to revoke the measure. What is your comment?


A: We have made some Japanese leaders use international slanderous remarks China expresses strong dissatisfaction.


Diaoyu Islands are China's inherent territory. Japan over the Diaoyu Islands theft and embezzlement have always been illegal and invalid. Since last year, the Japanese deliberately provoked the Diaoyu Islands dispute, unilaterally change the status quo of the Diaoyu Islands issue is none other than the Japanese themselves. In this regard, the Chinese law to take the necessary measures to safeguard national sovereignty and territorial fully justified, blameless.


East China's air defense identification zone designation is intended to protect national defense aviation security measures, consistent with international law and international practice, do not affect the countries of aircraft overflight freedoms enjoyed under international law. Deliberate on this issue in Japan to China to launch an attack, an attempt to tamper with the concept, the implementation of double standards, mislead international public opinion, Japan's attempt is doomed to failure.


"Rationalist Explanations For War" In The East China Sea

Submitted by Ankit Panda of The Diplomat,

Events in the East China Sea since 2009 have thrust to the forefront the following frightening question: will China and Japan imminently go to war? Conventional answers in the affirmative point to the deep level of historical mistrust and a certain level of “unfinished business” in East Asian international politics, stemming from the heyday of Showa Japan’s imperialism across Asia. Those on the negative often point to the astronomical economic costs that would follow from a war that pinned the world’s first and third largest economies against its second in a fight over a few measly islands, undersea hydrocarbon reserves be damned.

I can’t pretend to arbitrate between these two camps but I find that far too many observers sympathize with the second camp based on rational impulse. Of course China and Japan wouldn’t fight a war! That’d ruin their economies! I sympathize with the Clausewtizean notion of war being a continuation of politics “by other means,” and the problems caused by information asymmetries (effectively handicapping rational decision-making), but the situation over the Senkaku/Diaoyu islands can result in war even if the top leaders in Tokyo and Beijing are eminently rational.

Political scientist James D. Fearon’s path-breaking article “Rationalist Explanations for War” provides a still-relevant schema that’s wonderfully applicable to the contemporary situation between China and Japan in the East China Sea. Fearon’s paper was initially relevant because it challenged the overly simplistic rationalist’s dogma: if war is so costly, then there has to be some sort of diplomatic solution that is preferable to all parties involved — barring information asymmetries and communication deficits, such an agreement should and will be signed.

Of course, this doesn’t correspond to reality where we know that many incredibly costly wars have been fought (from the first World War to the Iran-Iraq War). So, if wars are costly — as one over the Senkaku/Diaoyu islands is likely to be — why do they still occur? Well, the answer isn’t Japanese imperialism or because states just sometimes irrationally dislike each other (as the affirmative camp would argue). It’s more subtle.

Fearon’s “bargaining model” assumes a few dictums about state knowledge, behavior and expectations ex ante. I’ll cast the remainder of the model in terms of Japan and China since they’re our subjects of interest (and to avoid floating off into academic abstractions).

First, China and Japan both know that there is an actual probability distribution of the likely outcomes of the war. They don’t know what the actual distribution is, but they can estimate what is likely in terms of the costs and outcomes of going to war. For example, Japan can predict that it would suffer relatively low naval losses and would strengthen its administrative control of the islands; China could predict the same outcome, or it could interpret things in its favor. In essence, they acknowledge that war is predictable in its unpredictability.

Second, China and Japan want to limit risk or are neutral to risk, but definitely do not crave risk. War is fundamentally risky so this is tantamount to an acknowledgement that war is costlier than maintaining peace or negotiating an ex ante diplomatic solution.

The third assumption is a little dressed up in academic jargon: there can be no “issue indivisibility.” In plain English, this essentially means that whatever the states are fighting over (usually territory, but it could be a pot of gold) can be divided between them in an infinite number of ways on a line going from zero to one. Imagine that zero is Japan’s ideal preference (total Japanese control of the Senkakus and acknowledgement as such by China) and one is China’s ideal preference (total Chinese control of Diaoyu and acknowledgement by Japan). Fearon’s assumption requires that there exist points like 0.23 and 0.83 (and so forth) which set up some sort sharing between the warring parties. Even solutions, such as one proposed by Zheng Wang here at The Diplomat to establish a “peace zone,” could sit on this line.

If the third assumption sounds the shakiest to you that’s probably because it is. “Issue indivisibility” is a nasty problem and a subject of quite some research. It usually is at the heart of wars that seek to decide which state should control a territory such as a Holy City (the intractability of the Arab-Israeli conflict is said to be plagued by indivisible issues).

So, is the dispute over the Senkaku/Diaoyu fundamentally indivisible? Probably in the sense of splitting sovereignty over the islands, but probably not in the sense of some ex ante bargain similar to what Zheng proposed. Even if the set of solutions isn’t infinitely divisible, whatever finite solutions exist might not fall within whatever range of solutions either Japan or China is willing to tolerate — leading to war.

Fearon actually doesn’t buy the indivisibility-leading-to-war theory himself. He reasons that generally almost every issue is complex enough to be divisible to a degree acceptable by each party (undermining the infinite divisibility requirement), and that states can link issues and offer payments to offset any asymmetrical outcome. In the Senkaku/Diaoyu case, this would mean a solution could hinge upon Japan making a broader apology for its aggression against China in the 20th century or China taking a harsher stance on North Korea (both unlikely).

Relevant to the Air Defense Identification Zone is Fearon’s description of war arising between rational states due to incentives to misrepresent capabilities. China and Japan’s leaders know more about their country’s actual willingness to go to war than anyone else, and it benefits to signal strong resolve on the issue to extract more concessions in any potential deal. Japan announcing its willingness to shoot down Chinese drones earlier this year and its most recent defense plans are example of this, and China’s ADIZ is probably the archetype of such a signal. Instead of extracting a good deal, what such declarations can do is force rational hands to war over the Senkaku/Diaoyu islands.

Fearon’s final explanation — regarding commitment problems leading to war — is slightly ancillary to the core discussion about the Senkaku/Diaoyu islands given Japan’s constitutional restraints on the use of force (rendering preemptive, preventative, and offensive wars largely irrelevant in the Japanese case). Regardless, the point remains that even if the Senkaku/Diaoyu islands might seem like a terribly silly thing for the world’s second and third largest economies to go to war over, war can still be likely.

As I observe events in the East China Sea, I mostly recall Fearon’s warnings on certain types of signals leading to brinksmanship (the divisibility issue is far murkier). Both Japan and China don’t seem to be relenting on these sorts of deleterious signals. Additionally, given that Chinese and Japanese diplomats haven’t had high-level contact in fourteen months, even the more primitive rationalist’s explanation, that war occurs because a lack of communication leads to rational miscalculations, becomes plausible.

A reflection on the possible rational reasons for China and Japan to go to war over the Senkaku/Diaoyu islands highlights the seriousness of the ongoing brinksmanship in the East China Sea. If a war is fought over these long-contested islands, it will have an eminently rational explanation underlying all the historical mistrust and nationalism on the surface. War in the East China Sea is possible, despite the economic costs.


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Headbanger's picture

Oh just great!  Go ahead and piss off the Japanese you idiots! 

It's like if France pissed off the Germans over stupid shit left over from WW II

China has everything to lose that  it's gained the past 30 years being a bully now that they're so full of them selves

Especially when it has been the West which gave them so much technology and markets to build their economy and military.

We also helped get Japan out of China way back when!

jballz's picture

There is no East/West. There is no China/US, there is no France/Germany.

There is global elite/working serfs.

If the serfs go to war with one another it is because the elite have decided it will be so.

Wake up little sheeple, stepout of the bullshit.

lewy14's picture

That's an intuitive and compelling paradigm.

But it's wrong.

Harlequin001's picture

The thing about fiat money and credit is that you can pay for an awful lot of food and medicine for as long as you can borrow.

When you can't, you need to get rid of the people dependent on that food and medicine.

And we all know what's coming with higher interest rates. It's about as simple as that.

kaiserhoff's picture

Is China's occupation of Tibet, Nepal, and a third of Kashmir "doomed to failure?"

It would be, if the West would grow a pair, and tell the simple truth now and then.

malikai's picture

If you take a look at that map, you can see the actual disputed territory (in yellow), regardless of what the politicos say. That is the business matter at hand. (full article)

Now, note the seabed. Note the depth of the seabed as the you head eastbound. There will never be a pipeline there heading towards Japan. There already is a pipeline heading towards China.

In fact, China has been producing in that field since about 2006 if I remember correctly.

Now, who has the most to win or lose by these theatrics?

Bananamerican's picture

"There is global elite/working serfs."

"say global eliteS, some with complete global ambition" and i might concede your point....

but this is an asian Falklands affair... between 2 countries even more ravenous for (potential) resources than Argentina/UK were, and full of even more PLIDE!

Headbanger's picture

Thank you!

Somebody who has a understanding of the forces which lead to wars.

And your term "PLIDE" is more meaningful that you may realize as "Nationalism"  (or call it Tribalism) is one of the most powerful forces which lead a populace to war against their neighbors.

Point here being.. Its not the fucking elites with their conspiracies doing it. The elites may back these forces for greed but they do not cause them.


FeralSerf's picture

Someone needs to "rally the troops" for the conflict to start. This is what the elites do with control of the media. They are therefor the cause.

The fucking elites are the ones that, when all is said and done (and maimed and killed), end up with the wealth.

Headbanger's picture

Another one. 

It's not worth trying to educate you know nothing imbeciles.

kliguy38's picture

"See my right very closely......."   " You see my little peep......always make sure you watch the hand I tell you ...go eat your groool and watch some futbaal"

Headbanger's picture

See MY right hand?? It has a big loaded 45 cal pointed at your widdle brain that's so small I'm sure to miss it at this close range so don't worry.


CrashisOptimistic's picture

Once more, with feeling:

"Only oil matters.  The rest is hand waving bullshit."

This is not the world of yesteryear.  This is a world of 7 billion people and oil feeds them.  China imports 10 million barrels/day.  Japan imports about 5 million bpd.  Cut off either and their people begin to starve from no food transport in a month or so (strategic petroleum reserves for both).

WAR ISN'T GOING TO BE BOMBING CITIES.  It's going to be sinking just one tanker going to each country.  Then the insurance companies won't let any more sail.  And the starvation begins.

This is a world where you don't WANT to kill the enemy because the more of them there are, the more food they consume from rapidly emptying store shelves.  This is a world where you let scarcity win your battles.

Not much glory in such a war and militaries won't like it.  It's not a strategy that gets generals enshrined in history for their tactical brilliance.  But it's how war will now be fought.

FeralSerf's picture

Bullshit! There is always oil to be bought for the ones with the cash.

KickIce's picture

Agreed.  Huge cultural differences and I'm betting that China and Russia have different plans for an NWO than their American counterparts.  Same with the Muslims.

tvdog's picture

Doesn't matter what the Chinese, Russians, or even the Americans want. What matters is what Israel wants. (And muslims are only a foil, they matter not at all.)

KickIce's picture

I don't think so, I think cultural and idealism win out in the end especiaaly as fiat and world economies deteriorate.

runningman18's picture

Actually, it's the only paradigm that's not false.

Headbanger's picture

Oh please.. Everything has to be a fucking conspiracy by the elites??

It's a simple explanation for simple minds who can all register their simpleness via the down arrow.

Yayyy!!  So far THREE mooks who love Obama and find it so much easier to blame their lousy life on the elites

conspiring against them instead of their own lack of determination for it.

MeMadMax's picture

I compare these types of people(which are closet socialists/communists) to the global warming/change/whatever type people:

The "cause" of their problems is tiny and insignifcant, but yet, they let the emotions RUN WILD, causing the problem to magically "get bigger"...


Emotional thought trumps rational reasoning with these people...

I suppose we are just born to kill each other... >_>

runningman18's picture

"There does exist ... an international Anglophile network ... which we may identify as the Round Table Groups. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960's, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected ... to a few of its policies ... but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known."
  -- Quote from Caroll Quigley's Tragedy and Hope, Chapter 65


"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences."
  -- Quote from Caroll Quigley's Tragedy and Hope, Chapter 20


Quigley was a member of the CFR and mentor to Bill Clinton.  They openly admit to the "conspiracy".  Only the willfully ignorant deny what is right in front of their faces. 

Radical Marijuana's picture

Well, runningman18, regarding: "Only the willfully ignorant deny what is right in front of their faces." That seems to include the vast majority of human beings, at the present time.

My concern is that history has selected for the people who were the best at being dishonest to become the most socially dominant. The ruling classes tend to become the most criminally insane people. Therefore, I disagreed with the basic Pollyannish premise in this article, that people preparing for wars are still acting "rationally." Rather, the vast majority of people are deliberately ignorant, while their "leaders" are the most narcissistic, psychopathic sociopaths, which both work together, within the well-established social pyramid systems, which have been developing for thousands of years.

No one group of human beings ever invented, or is solely responsible for, the principles and methods of organized crime. There were merely different groups which were best at doing that, during different times and places. The Anglo-American (Zionist) empire became globally dominant for while. However, the best organized criminal gangs has been developing within China and Japan for a long, long time as well. and they too interpenetrated and controlled their governments. 

After the Western barbarians were able to force Japan and China to adapt, Japan and China assimilated what they had to, as hybridized into their own culture, and, in many ways, are now exceeding the Western countries. In that context, what Quigley correctly wrote about the ways that secret societies covertly controlled the Anglo-American (Zionist) empire are equally, if not more so, true about China and Japan, through their own hybridized history.


In many ways, China and Japan are more insane than the Anglo-American (Zionist) empire that once was able to dominate China and Japan. (As demonstrated by their banksters making more money out of nothing now than our banksters do.) The basic problem that we all face is that progress in science, enabling technologies to become trillions of times more powerful and capable, have been channeled through social pyramid systems based on upon the ruling classes using lies, backed by violence, to keep the majority of people ignorant and afraid. That is the overall context of evil deliberate ignorance inside which Japan and China are operating, with Western interference still being a huge factor, although relatively diminishing.

runningman18's picture

I disagree that the influence of the globalists in China and Japan ever ended.  The Rockefellers are embedded in Chinese policy making to this day.  Everything the Chinese Central Bank has done has been in line with the IMF push for globalization.  In fact, all that liquidity China has created is quite deliberate.  They need it in order to replace the dollar as a reserve.  George Soros basically lays out the whole "conspiracy" in this vid:

The biggest mistake people make today is believing that there are actually "sides" to any conflict.  There are no sides, except the globalists vs. the rest of us.


Radical Marijuana's picture

Yeah, runningman18, it depends how you want to slice it ... I just do not believe that the Chinese or Japanese ruling classes enjoy taking orders from the Western powers anymore than they had to in the past. I am sure that the ruling classes in Asia deeply resent the degree to which they had to be subservient to Western ruling classes, during some phases of their history. However, I do agree that the ruling classes in different countries may well have more in common with each other than with the people that they rule over, despite common race, or culture. I would not exaggerate that too far, but nevertheless, an appartent goal of the globalized ruling classes is to reduce the power of people in national units to relative insignificance as far as those people being able to use their powers to prevent the globalist from accomplishing their aganda. INDEED, THE GLOBAL RULING CLASSES APPEAR TO BE DELIBERATELY DESTROYING THE USA, IN ORDER TO REDUCE ITS PEOPLE TO BEING IN THE SAME SITUATION AS THE CHINESE PEOPLE ARE IN NOT ... BUT, since I believe that the overall agenda of the globalized ruling classes is based on runaway criminal insanities, I do not believe that they will finally suceed, but rather, will generate so much chaos that they will not get any new order out of that, such as they are apparently planning to do ... Basically, my view is that China is way more screwed up than the illusions of the apparent "growth" of its economy indicates. Unless there are some series of new energy technological miralces, which can be scaled up in real time, along with some series of political miracles to enable those to be successfully implemented, then the following basic view of China applies pretty well to the whole world, AND, IS MORE LIKELY AN UNDERSTATEMENT, RATHER THAN AN EXAGGERATION:

Chinese Toast

Yet, anyway, runningman18, that video interview with Soros you linked was interesting. I regard him as one of the more brilliant banksters, (that I am aware of) which makes him especially dangerous. I particularly distrust his way of funding the mainstream marijuana legalization movements, which are perceived as dominant by the mass media, because they have the most money, due to gifts from Soros.

Monsanto Marijuana Initiative Grows in Uruguay?

December 13, 2013.


Are there other agendas at work in the Uruguayan legalization?

Answer: Obviously yes!

Banksters' prodigious profits are funding
mainstream marijuana movements to be
the controlled opposition neoprohibitions!

Monsanto is one of the MOST EVIL companies
operating upon planet Earth currently, and
hence, there likely is a hidden agenda!

matrix2012's picture


Excerpted from Henderson's article below:

-- "The  Trilateral Commission (TC) published The Triangle Papers which extended the “special relationship between the US and Western Europe” to include Japan, which was fast becoming creditor to the rest of the world.  Former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker was TC Chairman. --


About the *** ROUNDTABLE *** DEAN HENDERSON wrote at great lengthy in his below article:


The Federal Reserve Cartel: Part III: The Roundtable & The Illuminati

June 8, 2011

According to former British intelligence agent John Coleman’s book, The Committee of 300, the Rothschilds exert political control through the secretive Business Roundtable, which they created in 1909 with the help of Lord Alfred Milner and South African industrialist Cecil Rhodes. The Rhodes Scholarship is granted by Cambridge University, out of which oil industry propagandist Cambridge Energy Research Associates operates.

Rhodes founded De Beers and Standard Chartered Bank.  According to Gary Allen’s expose, The Rockefeller Files, Milner financed the Russian Bolsheviks on Rothschild’s behalf, with help from Jacob Schiff and Max Warburg.

In 1917 British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour penned a letter to Zionist Second Lord Lionel Walter Rothschild in which he expressed support for a Jewish homeland on Palestinian-controlled lands in the Middle East. [1]

The Balfour Declaration justified the brutal seizure of Palestinian lands for the post-WWII establishment of Israel.  Israel would serve, not as some high-minded “Jewish homeland”, but as lynchpin in Rothschild/Eight Families control over the world’s oil supply.  Baron Edmond de Rothschild built the first oil pipeline from the Red Sea to the Mediterranean to bring BP Iranian oil to Israel.  He founded Israeli General Bank and Paz Oil. He is considered by many the father of modern Israel. [2]

Roundtable inner Circle of Initiates included Lord Milner, Cecil Rhodes, Arthur Balfour, Albert Grey and Lord Nathan Rothschild.  The Roundtable takes its name from the legendary knight of King Arthur, whose tale of the Holy Grail is paramount to the Illuminatinotion of Sangreal or holy blood.

John Coleman writes in The Committee of 300, “Round Tablers armed with immense wealth from gold, diamond and drug monopolies fanned out throughout the world to take control of fiscal and monetary policies and political leadership in all countries where they operated.”

While Cecil Rhodes and the Oppenheimers went to South Africa, the Kuhn Loebs were off to re-colonize America.  Rudyard Kipling was sent to India. The Schiffs and Warburgs manhandled Russia. The Rothschilds, Lazards and Israel Moses Seifs pushed into the Middle East.  In Princeton, New Jersey the Round Table founded the Institute for Advanced Study (IAS) as partner to its All Souls College at OxfordIAS was funded by the Rockefeller’s General Education Board. IAS members Robert Oppenheimer, Neils Bohr and Albert Einstein created the atomic bomb. [3]

In 1919 Rothschild’s Business Roundtable spawned the Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA) in London.  The RIIA soon sponsored sister organizations around the globe, including the US Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the Asian Institute of Pacific Relations, the Canadian Institute of International Affairs, the Brussels-based Institute des Relations Internationales, the Danish Foreign Policy Society, the Indian Council of World Affairs and the Australian Institute of International Affairs. Other affiliates popped up in France, Turkey, Italy, Yugoslavia and Greece. [4]

The RIIA is a registered charity of the Queen and, according to its annual reports, is funded largely by the Four Horsemen.  Former British Foreign Secretary and Kissinger Associates co-founder Lord Carrington was President of both the RIIA and the BilderbergersThe inner circle at RIIA is dominated by Knights of St. John Jerusalem, Knights of Malta, Knights Templar and 33rd Degree Scottish Rite Freemasons.  The Knights of St. John were founded in 1070 and answer directly to the British House of Windsor.  Their leading bloodline is the Villiers dynasty, which the Hong Kong Matheson family married into. The Lytton family also married into the Villiers gang. [5]

Colonel Edward Bulwer-Lytton led the English Rosicrucian secret society, which Shakespeare opaquely referred to as Rosencranz, while the Freemasons took the role of Guildenstern.  Lytton was spiritual father of both the RIIA and Nazi fascism.  In 1871 he penned a novel titled,Vril: The Power of the Coming Race.  Seventy years later the Vril Society received ample mention in Adolf Hitler’s Mein Kampf.  Lytton’s son became Viceroy to India in 1876 just before opium production spiked in that country.  Lytton’s good friend Rudyard Kipling worked under Lord Beaverbrook as Propaganda Minister, alongside Sir Charles Hambro of the Hambros banking dynasty. [6]

James Bruce, ancestor to Scottish Rite Freemason founder Sir Robert the Bruce, was the 8th Earl of Elgin. He supervised the Caribbean slave trade as Jamaican Governor General from 1842-1846.  He was Britain’s Ambassador to China during the Second Opium War.  His brother Frederick was Colonial Secretary of Hong Kong during both Opium Wars.  Both were prominent Freemasons.  British Lord Palmerston, who ran the Opium Wars, was a blood relative of the Bruce monarchy, as was his Foreign Secretary John Russell, grandfather of Bertrand Russell. [7]

Children of the Roundtable elite are members of a Dionysian cult known as Children of the Sun.  Initiates include Aldous Huxley, T. S. Eliot, D. H. Lawrence and H. G. Wells.  Wells headed British intelligence during WWI. His books speak of a “one-world brain” and “a police of the mind”.  William Butler Yeats, another Sun member, was a pal of Aleister Crowley.  The two formed an Isis Cult based on a Madam Blavatsky manuscript, which called on the British aristocracy to organize itself into an Isis Aryan priesthood. Most prominent writers of English literature came from the ranks of the Roundtable. All promoted Empire expansion, however subtly.  Blavatsky’s Theosophical Society and Bulwer-Lytton’s Rosicrucians joined forces to form the Thule Society out of which the Nazis emerged. [8]

Aleister Crowley formed the British parallel to the Thule Society, the Isis-Urania Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn.  He tutored LSD guru Aldus Huxley, who arrived in the US in 1952, the same year the CIA launched its MK-ULTRA mind control program with help from the Warburg-owned Swiss Sandoz Laboratories and Rockefeller cousin Allen Dulles- OSS Station Chief in Berne.  Dulles received information from the Muslim Brotherhood House of Saudi regarding the creation of mind-controlled Assassins.  Dulles’ assistant was James Warburg. [9]

The Atlantic Union (AU) was an RIIA affiliate founded by Cecil Rhodes- who dreamed of returning the US to the British Crown.  In 1939 AU set up its first offices in America in space donated by Nelson Rockefeller at 10 E 40th St in New York City.  Every year from 1949-1976 an AU resolution was floored in Congress calling for a repeal of the Declaration of Independence and a “new world order”. Another RIIA affiliate was United World Federalists (UWF)- founded by Norman Cousins and Dulles assistant James P. Warburg.  UWF’s motto was “One world or none”.  Its first president Cord Meyer stepped down to take a key position in Allen Dulles’ CIA.  Meyer articulated UWF’s goal, “Once having joined the One-World Federated Government, no nation could secede or revolt…with the atom bomb in its possession the Federal Government would blow that nation off the face of the earth.” [10]

In 1950 James Warburg, whose elders Max and Paul sat on the board of Nazi business combine IG Farben, testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, “We shall have world government whether or not you like it- by conquest or consent.”  The AU and UAF are close to the CFR and the Trilateral Commission (TC)- founded by David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski in 1974. [11]

The TC published The Triangle Papers which extended the “special relationship between the US and Western Europe” to include Japan, which was fast becoming creditor to the rest of the world.  Former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker was TC Chairman.  TC/CFR insider Harvard Professor  Samuel Huntington, who most recently has argued for a “Clash of Civilizations” between the West and the Muslim world, wrote in the TC publication Crisis in Democracy, “…a government which lacks authority will have little ability short of cataclysmic crisis to impose on its people the sacrifices which may be necessary.” [12]


matrix2012's picture

Read the short book by W. Cleon Skousen titled: "The Naked Capitalist," written as a commentary on a 1300 page tome by Dr. Carroll Quigley (Bill Clinton's mentor!) It will tell you all you need to know about how the current imperium was put on this path of inevitable destruction. When Quigley wrote the book in 1969 he felt safe in publishing it because he thought there was no turning back by then. Quigley died in 1977. From the way things are going, he may very well have been right.


Carroll Quigley's 'Tragedy and Hope: A History of The World in Our Time' and W. Cleon Skousen's 'The Naked Capitalist' plus few other Quigley's venerable, hard to find works, all in good quality now come IN BUNDLE


-- old link was dead already-- here's the still good one (pdf)


IF ALL the links in multiservers are dead, pls get my attention at ZH for a new one :-) last check one of the link there is still okay!

CosmicDebris's picture

It's not really that everything has to be a fucking conspiracy by the eiltes.  It's when a global economy is so utterly doomed to fail in ways never even thought of by even the craziest conspiracy's then that a big war is the only thing to 'fix' that little problem.  And yes, 'fixed' by the elites. 

It's in the history books.  I gaurantee you that the biggest wars in history didn't just happen because a few dictators were ornary and wanted to burn the world and all the people in it.  THAT is naive. 

WakeUpPeeeeeople's picture

Was watching CCTV the other day (some English speaking Chinese news channel) and these two Chinese dudes were making the argument that the Cairo Declaration of 1943 and later the Potsdam Agreement clearly gave them rights to these islands. They just may have a valid point.

Hubbs's picture

Which would give the US an "out" of its agreement to defend Japan if things really got hot.

TBT or not TBT's picture

I think we ought to resume underground nuke testing, in these particular rocks. Then they'd have to rename this conflict. That'd be very awkward. Very.

Uber Vandal's picture

On the other hand, the US has a long tradition of honoring laws, contracts, agreements, declarations, and treaties.

However, your point is very well taken, and if this gets too hot, hopefully some sanity may prevail.


Headbanger's picture

NotApplicable:   ++100   Very good.  "Games People Play" 


Crash N. Burn's picture

It's when a global economy is so utterly doomed to fail in ways never even thought of by even the craziest conspiracy theorists

Ain't it the truth, though resource nationalism is the next ism. Think the real question is who do the oil/gas corporations (ie. the One Bank) back? Actually, forget that, either way they win as resource prices will increase.

Tim_'s picture

Excerpt from Mel Gibson's arrest report

"Fucking jews."

"The jews are responsible for all the wars in the world."

Seize Mars's picture

There is a saying that "when the wine goes in, the truth comes out."

But I disagree. I think that when the wine goes in, the ugly comes out. Alcoholism is an unbelievably destructive and painful thing. Alcohol makes people do and say really bad shit.

So give it a rest on Mel Gibson. He's a human being. He's an alcoholic with problems. It doesn't really mean much.

I say forgive and forget, and move on.

tvdog's picture

Forgive Mel Gibson? For what? For telling the truth about Jews?

Tim_'s picture

Mel Gibson should be awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom for that statement alone.

Doubleth1nker's picture

Correct - both sides have major economic dislocations coming dead ahead because of sovereign bankruptcy, massive unrepayable bank debt and fiat money malinvestments.  Both sides need a war to distract the plebs who will suffer a large decline in living standards and will be looking for someone to blame for that.  Better for them to blame an old foreign enemy than their own government's insane policies.  War is the way for the political elites to maintain power through economic and social upheaval.  Been that way for thousands of years.  Those fucking islands have little to do with it.

TBT or not TBT's picture

They also share doomed demographics, China worse so than Japan.

jballz's picture

Ok pillar of wisdom, let's check the facts.

Opening salvo of the brewing war: Government of Japan buys private Senkaku island, uninhabited covered in bird shit and who gives a fuck?

Find me a serf anywhere who gives a fuck, any country, and race.


Chinese Government says hey you cannot own that previously privately owned bird shit covered unihabited rock!

Again, find a serf anywhere who gives a fuck.

Unfolds the pissing match over AIRSPACE above the rock nobody gives a fuck about.

Now find me a serf who is concerned about the airspace over the uninhabited bird shit rock, no there is not one serf anywhere who gives a fuck.


But hey let's go to war over it, says the GOVERNMENTS.

How many people have charg of such a decision? 10? 500?

Say a thousand on each side. 

How could you really manage a thousand people in two countries without getting all knee deep in conspiracy shit?


Hmm. What if you controlled their money supply, and your managers of the day to day mechanics of doing so met routinely and made no attempts to hide it. Like a G20 meeting or some CRAZY TINFOIL SHIT like that.


pwned, bitchez.

Just death to the serfs and box seats for the elites who say go. Got nothing to do with conspiracy, just the way it is. 


Call me wrong when Abe and his chi com counterpart are personally in a cage match to the death over this hugely important matter. I will stand corrected. Until then go fuck yourself.



A Nanny Moose's picture

The only solution is to outlaw government. Some day, humans will figure this out.

Headbanger's picture

Like you could  possibly handle anarchy where any number of maniac just want to scalp you for the sheer (pun intended) fun of it!


Anusocracy's picture

Gee, like it's impossible for an armed populace and a free market to provide security. They would certainly be better than the doughnut munchers in swat gear that stand around outside schools while kids are being shot up.

Besides, the job would be considerably easier when the number one aggressor, government, ceases to exist.

formadesika3's picture

-- find a serf anywhere who gives a fuck.

Hmmm, let me think on it...

What about Hermann Goering, was he a serf?

"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on
a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of
it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people
don't want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in
Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the
country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to
drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist
dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no
voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked,
and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the
country to danger. It works the same in any country."

kliguy38's picture

hehehehe that's right headbanger.......your "wisdom" and "level headness" debunking the "conspiracy" is what we count on......without levelheaded peeps like you our game would never have been possible........hehehheheehe.......we thank you........

Headbanger's picture

You're welcome and go fuck yourselves or fuck each other, I don't care.

Now with greetings out of the way..

SO WHAT!   Do you think Hitler or Stalin or Mao or Kim Fuk Yu were the result of the elites manipulating the world??

And what makes you think the elites are so fucking smart to always be contriving such sinister plans to take over the world?

But thanks for your replies anyway and go fuck yourselves again.


And how did that "Occupy Shit" work out for you mooks anyway?

And for the rest of you..  Disco still sucks!

FeralSerf's picture

"Do you think Hitler or Stalin or Mao or Kim Fuk Yu were the result of the elites manipulating the world??"

Absolute fucking YES! The historical record is clear enough, even though there have been many conspiracies to prevent that record from being public information.

This is not to suggest that the elites are all on the same page. They are definitely NOT.