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Ice Under The Ice: Diamonds Discovered In Antarctica

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With climate change impacting the poles, the potential for trade routes and resource extraction are improving.. and with that the world's powers are rattling sabres over who owns what. From Canada's claims to Russia's defense forces and China's purposeful dependence-building aid to small Arctic states, everyone knows the stakes. So, with very few big new diamond mines having been developed in recent years, the FT reports that scientists have found a site containing the rocks that often produce diamonds – in Antarctica. The problem is that the frozen continent is protected from mining for decades under an international treaty.


Some color on the climate change impact on arctic resource extraction...


Via The FT,

In a frustrating discovery, scientists have found a site containing the rocks that often produce diamonds – in Antarctica. The problem is that the frozen continent is protected from mining for decades under an international treaty. Even if it were not, the prospect of drilling through layers of ice in a harsh climate is likely to deter many would-be miners.


Still, the discovery is scientifically significant...


“It’s the first kimberlite occurrence reported in Antarctica,” he said, referring to the carrot-shaped volcanic rock formations that have been found on other continents and have been a significant source of diamonds in places such as South Africa.


“It’s really not very surprising there are kimberlites there. We were lucky enough to be the first ones to find one.”




“You could see some mining companies might argue, ‘We can do this; we don’t have to waste this resource’,” said Dr Robert Larter of the British Antarctic Survey.


However, the physical obstacles are immense in a continent that is 99 per cent covered in ice, some of which is 3-4km thick, he said.




Very few big new diamond mines have been developed in recent years, leading to expectations of a squeeze in supply by the end of the decade. At present levels of output, existing reserves will sustain global diamond production for 18 years, according to research by Bain & Co this year. About 70 per cent of the world’s 2.3bn carats of diamond reserves are in Russia and Africa.


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Tue, 12/17/2013 - 22:25 | 4255728 navy62802
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Quick, get De Beers in there!!

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 22:30 | 4255735 knukles
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With enough campaign contributions we'll see DeBeers following right behind the massive tunnel boring machines digging 40 miles below the surface to the old alien bases and find a dozen or so Nazi subs made of pure gold, the emergency flotation devices in which are untouched highly inflatable money supplies.
Meaning more taxes for the Alien Peace and Defense Fund as well as continued and expanded Central Bank interventions in gold and currency markets as well as new efforts in diamonds.


Tue, 12/17/2013 - 22:39 | 4255757 Harbanger
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boring machines?  Al Gore is proposing lifting the mining treaty to study and document the effects of buried diamonds on the icecap.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 22:51 | 4255786 ACP
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Oil AND diamonds?

Ah yeeeeah nigga!

It's on like donkey kong!

Let's get ready to rumbuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuule!

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 22:57 | 4255807 Rory_Breaker
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I thought we could make diamonds in a lab, then why do we dig them out of the ground?

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:02 | 4255816 SilverIsKing
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Next the FED will bury a couple hundred ounces of gold somewhere and have it "discovered" and claim the discovery is estimated to be a kajillion tonnes. That plus the dumping of a few thousand COMEX contracts will keep them in business a while longer.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:33 | 4255868 clymer
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"with climate change impacting the poles.."

tuned out right there.

it's gonna suck if ZH turns out to be another psyop


Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:55 | 4255941 Tarheel
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I agree with clymer. If ZH starts endorsing and promoting the global warming hoax then I will certainly stop reading and donating advert dollars.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 09:04 | 4256614 overmedicatedun...
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To all the AGW is fixed science: predictions from year 2000 and earlier:

"1. Within a few years "children just aren't going to know what snow is." Snowfall will be "a very rare and exciting event." Dr. David Viner, senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia, interviewed by the UK Independent, March 20, 2000.

When it didn't get cold the CRU changed their minds. Now they are saying that the horribly cold/snowy winters are caused by Global Warming

2. "[By] 1995, the greenhouse effect would be desolating the heartlands of North America and Eurasia with horrific drought, causing crop failures and food riots…[By 1996] The Platte River of Nebraska would be dry, while a continent-wide black blizzard of prairie topsoil will stop traffic on interstates, strip paint from houses and shut down computers." Michael Oppenheimer, published in "Dead Heat," St. Martin's Press, 1990.

Actually if there are crop failures it is because of the cold and bad weather. And as far as the drought NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center shows that precipitation -- rain and snow -- has increased slightly over the century.

3. "Arctic specialist Bernt Balchen says a general warming trend over the North Pole is melting the polar ice cap and may produce an ice-free Arctic Ocean by the year 2000." Christian Science Monitor, June 8, 1972. In 2008 Dr. David Barber of Manitoba University said "We're actually projecting this year that the North Pole may be free of ice for the first time," (ignoring the many earlier times the Pole has been ice free).

Actually Arctic Ice, is thicker and temperatures are not rising.

4. "Using computer models, researchers concluded that global warming would raise average annual temperatures nationwide two degrees by 2010." Associated Press, May 15, 1989.

Status of prediction: According to NASA, global temperature has increased by about 0.7 degrees Fahrenheit since 1989. And U.S. temperature has increased even less over the same period. And thats the NASA numbers which have been known to have a problem accuracy, because instead of collecting data from temperature stations, NASA makes assumptions regarding what the temperatures should be.

5. "By 1985, air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half." Life magazine, January 1970.

Life Magazine also noted that some people disagree, "but scientists have solid experimental and historical evidence to support each of the following predictions." With the possible exception of the atmosphere directly over congress,  air quality has actually improved since 1970. Studies find that sunlight reaching the Earth fell by somewhere between 3 and 5 percent over the period in question.

6. "If present trends continue, the world will be ... eleven degrees colder by the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us in an ice age." Kenneth E.F. Watt, in "Earth Day," 1970. Remember before we were warned about global warming, we were told that the Earth was facing an Ice age.

7. "By the year 2000 the United Kingdom will be simply a small group of impoverished islands, inhabited by some 70 million hungry people ... If I were a gambler, I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000." Ehrlich, Speech at British Institute For Biology, September 1971.

Granted, Obama is no fan of our close friends across the pond, but according to today's news, England was still there.

8. "In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish." Ehrlich, speech during Earth Day, 1970

Maybe he was talking about the US Gulf Coast during the BP oil spill?

9. Al Gore sold his scary global warming film, An Inconvenient Truth, shown in almost every school in the country, with a poster of a terrible hurricane. Former US president Bill Clinton later gloated: "It is now generally recognized that while Al Gore and I were ridiculed, we were right about global warming. . . It's going to lead to more hurricanes."

Contrary to the hysterical nonsense being spewed by global warming experts, the past 50 years has been about the quietest on record for US hurricanes. The 1940s was the worst. Researchers at Florida State University concluded that the 2007 and 2008 hurricane seasons had the least tropical activity in the Northern Hemisphere in 30 years. This year there were plenty of hurricanes in the Atlantic, but they were generally weak and did not hit land. Pacific hurricanes were at a record low in 2010.

10. The Silly Stuff- Those Global Warming Moonbats figure out ways to blame the dumbest things on global warming. I call it the official crazy list of things Moonbats say global warming causes. The list contains, Incredible shrinking sheep, Invasion of jellyfish in the Mediterranean, Surge in fatal shark attack, Boy Scout tornado deaths, Severe acne, Global conflictBeer tasting different, Suicide of farmers in Australia, Bigger tuna fish,Longer days, Shorter daysCollapse of gingerbread houses in Sweden, Cow infertility, UFO sightings in the UK, Rise in insurance premiums, and Heroin addiction and a rise in bear attacks in Japan  and Frigid Cold Winters in Great Britain, and Cancer, Death  from heart disease, diabetes, stroke, respiratory disease and even accidents, homicide, suicide,water -borne disease outbreaks,heavier, wetter snowstorms treacherous for travel and ambulation, Lyme disease, swarms of allergy-inducing, stinging insects, along with mosquitoes and devastating pine bark beetle infestations and the spread of forest and crop pests just to name a few.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 00:01 | 4255955 Crawdaddy
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yep that is the tell.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 01:33 | 4256136 ThirdWorldDude
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+ 1  Thanks for filling in the blanks.

Sad to see ZH jumping on the IPCC bandwagon, but I guess it's the new corporate policy. ABC Media LTC. is probably owned by cheesepopes heavily "invested" in Al Gore's GIM and BTC...

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 05:41 | 4256379 Gumbum
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Yes...this is why Russia is placing troops in the Arctic and why Canada is filing claim to expand their territory in the Arctic.

It's because it's COOLING so much and the ice is getting sooo thick that they just MUST have it! know...for drinks and sh1t.


Wed, 12/18/2013 - 12:36 | 4257366 Melin
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ZH has always and often posted the slippery statist solutions of others.  


The call for more, bigger, better regulation is relentless around here.  The term "unregulated" is a four-letter word.



Wed, 12/18/2013 - 08:34 | 4256531 Sudden Debt
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because digging them up is hard and making them is easy and for pussies!

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 09:09 | 4256621 Disenchanted
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re: "I thought we could make diamonds in a lab, then why do we dig them out of the ground?"

To maximize DeBeer's profits...



In the 1930's, Sir Ernest Oppenheimer, the chairman of De Beers Group and leader of Anglo American, came up with the idea of "single channel marketing" which he defined as "a producers' co-operative including the major outside, or non-De Beers producers in accordance with the belief that only by limiting the quantity of diamonds put on the market, in accordance with the demand, and by selling through one channel, can the stability of the diamond trade be maintained."


This new single channel marketing structure eventually came to be known as the Central Selling Organisation (CSO) ( Basically, Oppenheimer formed a cartel on the premise that he was operating a legitimate enterprise. He stomped out all competition and kept a stranglehold on the supply of diamonds, upping their value and rarity through a limited supply that De Beers doled out carefully. It is safe to say that during this time De Beers Group owned and controlled about 90% of diamond production in the world; thus they could control the "rarity" and value and keep a hold on the lucrative industry. Many of their dealings were shady, and they were known for particular ruthlessness against their competitors.


quote from:

A Brief History of Blood Diamonds



btw "Central Selling Organisation" sounds a lot like Central Banking, s/but I'm sure there's no connection. /s

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 22:41 | 4255758 Yes_Questions
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Alien Peace and Defense Fund


..and After the fall of the Arctic, doublespeak will reign supreme..

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 22:35 | 4255747 Bobbyrib
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First thing I thought of: "When will DeBeers own the rights?"

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:01 | 4255808 Serfs Up
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Who cares?

Diamonds are 100% carbon and that's not exactly an element in short supply.  And multicarat flawless diamonds can be easily created in the lab with a relatively low capex investment.

But...leave it to humans to fight over a non-rare item in a hostile, remote location becasue the Debeers family managed to create artificial scarcity.  

Anybody who dies over that squabble deserves to die, in a Darwin sort of way, but here we're talking about the unsurvival of the dumbest.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 00:03 | 4255965 Crawdaddy
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So says the single man..,or the married guy who convinced his wife cubic zirconium is just as good.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 01:36 | 4256140 Tim_
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Gemesis Diamond Company

"Gemesis lab-created diamonds are real, carbon crystal-growth diamonds, only they are cultured by man, not mined like traditional diamonds."

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 11:17 | 4257051 tarsubil
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Are you bragging about falling for this total sham so you could get married?

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 01:11 | 4256105 TheLoveArtist
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The JEWS hate the cold, their yahmukas would give them frostbite.  No problem they have enslaved tons of Gentiles especially in Ukraine where all the oligarchs are JEWS.  Send the gentiles to work the ice mines, after all the Ukrainians are used to the cold, they have been without gas more than once.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 01:13 | 4256106 TheLoveArtist
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The JEWS hate the cold, their yahmukas would give them frostbite.  No problem they have enslaved tons of Gentiles especially in Ukraine where all the oligarchs are JEWS.  Send the gentiles to work the ice mines, after all the Ukrainians are used to the cold, they have been without gas more than once.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 11:45 | 4257132 Sweet Chicken
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multicarat flawless diamonds can be easily created in the lab


Link please? 


I'd like to point out that they cannot produce colorless material of this size and clarity. I've worked for GIA for many years and other laboratories. These mandmade stones in no way look like what your girlfriend expects you to put on her finger so don't get your hopes up. They are however a great innovation with tons of industrial possibilities.

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 04:08 | 4259994 prmths2
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 The two most common impurities in diamond are carbon-13 and nitrogen. Isotopically pure diamonds have been produced that have 50% greater thermal conductivity than diamond with a normal isotope ratio (~99:1). These are useful as heat sinks. Large synthetic diamonds that are purer than natural diamonds can be produced in a laboratory, but they will not command the same price as a natural diamond since they are synthetic. The nitrogen atoms contained in natural diamond produce local stresses in the lattice and over very long periods of time they diffuse to form clusters that reduce the overall lattice strain. Synthetic diamonds do not have these clusters. The clusters have a flourescence that is different from individual atoms, allowing natural diamond that contains nitrogen to be distinguished from synthetic diamond. The purest natural diamonds have negligible nitrogen and are more difficult to distinguish from synthetic diamonds. DeBeers has put considerable marketing effort into maintaining the cachet of natural diamonds and considerable research into developing sophisticated techniques for differentiating natural diamonds from synthetic. You can find a brief discussion at: The manufacture of synthetic diamonds is kind of like counting cards in Las Vegas, you will be more successful if nobody knows what you are doing. DeBeers has always been very vigilant when it comes to following technological developments in synthetic diamond manufacture, and I expect that the leading edge manufacturing and analytical techniques are closely guarded.


Wed, 12/18/2013 - 02:32 | 4256226 RafterManFMJ
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Poor, simple fucks; only an idiot digs for diamonds...

Read now, thanks me later.

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 01:13 | 4262980 matrix2012
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Combining the read of this Wired article "The New Diamond Age" with Disenchanted's link above on "A Brief History of Blood Diamonds", these two articles constitute a cool duet material as a good starter kit (light, concise yet fascinating topic to catch their attention, imo)  to enlighten the sheeples what's so-called propaganda what's truth :-)

Lovely... thanks to both of you for the links :-)





"If you look for the social-economic motive, you will not have to wait for history to tell you what was propaganda and what was truth." - George Seldes

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 22:28 | 4255731 Big Corked Boots
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Meh. Wake me when they find oil.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 22:30 | 4255740 FieldingMellish
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The problem is that the frozen continent is protected from mining for decades under an international treaty


Nothing a war and a few hundred thousand civilian deaths won't solve.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 22:34 | 4255744 Ignatius
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No shortage of diamonds.  Follow the treaty, no mining.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 22:52 | 4255779 nmewn
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"I hold in my hand a piece of paper." - Neville Chamberlain

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:02 | 4255804 Dr. Engali
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That's the same thing most members of government say about the constitution just before they burn it.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 22:42 | 4255759 A Lunatic
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Treaties don't mean shit when it comes to glorious riches. Just ask them heathen 'merican injuns.......

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 22:47 | 4255770 Yes_Questions
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Wed, 12/18/2013 - 03:19 | 4256285 SilverRhino
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Were that truly the case then the asteroid belt would be getting mined like crazy right now.   Why the fuck we're still stuck on this rockball when there are multiple Earths of fresh water and natural resources floating around waiting to be taken is just fucking BUG NUTS. 


UN Outer Space Treaty .... 1967 and it's still holding us back.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 18:52 | 4258959 DFCtomm
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Two reasons. They're just now learning how to find those earth like planets, and the second problem is that nobody other than governments have been involved in space exploration. Those two problems are beginning to be resolved. We've already found a planet that is close enough for our current technology to make a one way trip. I think it's within 60 light years, and commercial companies are just now entering the field. It's changing but won't change fast enough for you to see it.

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 23:07 | 4262696 SilverRhino
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A VIABLE colony could be established on Europa with today's technology and private property rights.    You really think that the Saudi's wouldnt LOVE to have a nice fat set of ice asteroids dropped into their desert on a zero relative speed re-entry trajectory for water recovery?  



Tue, 12/17/2013 - 22:57 | 4255775 Dr. Engali
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It is of the utmost importance to forgo any diamond mining in the Antarctic. The African blood diamond business must be protected by any means necessary.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:23 | 4255857 kchrisc
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Sorry to tell you this, but you seem to have fallen for the "blood diamond" lie.

There is no such thing, as is very often the case with things that originate in power and are disseminated via the propaganda media.

What is really going on is that De Beers and the rest of the 'tribe' diamond monopoly control the diamond prices by keeping part of the world's yearly supply of diamonds off of the market. They literally buy up and perpetually store diamonds as needed to control their price. (Look it up.)

As more poor people, especially in Africa, have turned to diamond mining to survive, the monopoly was having to buy more and more diamonds to hold. That was putting a crimp on profits, so the "blood diamond" BS was born.

Of course the bigger picture is a bit more complicated--fascism. puppet states, etc.--, but that is the basic jest.


Or think about it another way. What is the best way to stop and/or prevent conflicts in poor African countries, control the mining and sale of a consumer item like diamonds or the arms trade to same said countries?

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 02:04 | 4256183 Tim_
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Have You Ever Tried to Sell a Diamond?

"The diamond invention is far more than a monopoly for fixing diamond prices; it is a mechanism for converting tiny crystals of carbon into universally recognized tokens of wealth, power, and romance. To achieve this goal, De Beers had to control demand as well as supply. Both women and men had to be made to perceive diamonds not as marketable precious stones but as an inseparable part of courtship and married life. To stabilize the market, De Beers had to endow these stones with a sentiment that would inhibit the public from ever reselling them. The illusion had to be created that diamonds were forever -- 'forever' in the sense that they should never be resold."

"Specifically, the Ayer study stressed the need to strengthen the association in the public's mind of diamonds with romance. Since 'young men buy over 90% of all engagement rings' it would be crucial to inculcate in them the idea that diamonds were a gift of love: the larger and finer the diamond, the greater the expression of love. Similarly, young women had to be encouraged to view diamonds as an integral part of any romantic courtship."

"'There's going to come a day when all those doctors, lawyers, and other fools who bought diamonds over the phone take them out of their strongboxes, or wherever, and try to sell them,' one dealer predicted last year."

"Even in the midst of this crisis, De Beers's executives in London have been maneuvering to save the diamond invention by buying up loose diamonds. The inventory of diamonds in De Beers's vault [in 1982] has swollen to a value of over a billion dollars—twice the value of the 1979 inventory."

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 22:53 | 4255785 Evil Bugeyes
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Antarctica and South Africa were once part of a single continent and were right next to each other according to the theory of continental drift. So it isn't surprising that they have similar rocks.

Which leads to the more important question: Is there gold in Antarctica like there is (was) in South Africa?

If there is, it's mine! I dubbs it.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 22:54 | 4255797 kchrisc
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"With climate change impacting the poles..." I guess the author hasn't yet heard of ClimateGate.


I am American not US.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:11 | 4255835 LetThemEatRand
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I guess the facts discussed in this story haven't, either.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:52 | 4255932 clymer
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sick joke.


Let's get on with free energy already. It's there

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 22:55 | 4255799 orez65
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"With climate change impacting the poles ..."

You are "assuming" that the world is warming up, but cover your ass by saying "climate change". I say "shit or get off the pot". 

If you have proof of global climate show it otherwise shut the fuck up.

Incidentally, pray to whatever your God is or to your recycling shrine that the world will not get colder.

It's tough when it gets cold. I've been freezing my ass while in Arkansas and that's the South.

In the last ice age there was a 5 mile wall of ice all the way down to Arkansas.

You fucking liberals are a bunch of pathetic shit heads.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:10 | 4255834 chubbar
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Orez, great fucking rant, laughing my FAO, LOL! I don't even care of the accuracy, which is probably good.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:18 | 4255841 LetThemEatRand
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"I've been freezing my ass while in Arkansas and that's the South."

They started calling it climate change after realizing that people would look out their window for proof of "global warming," and not seeing it in their backyards every single fucking day (and convinced by global corporate propaganda that it does not exist), conclude it is a farce.  It is a long-term global trend, and even when it was called "global warming" the scientific papers discussed the fact that it would also include colder winters in some parts of the globe.  Perhaps the old addage about the boiling frogs has more literal meaning than intended.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:20 | 4255854 dark pools of soros
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the polution will kill everyone before any warming amounts to anything... but then that might make certain entities liable for medical bills if they push that too much


perhaps Earth should get a lawyer?



Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:26 | 4255864 LetThemEatRand
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I'm pretty sure the Earth doesn't care.  As for pollution killing people, people adapt.  But it is ironic to me that so many people who otherwise "follow the money" don't see the force behind the denial of global warming.  Yes there is money to be made on both sides of the "debate," but the really, really, really big money is the energy industry and everything it feeds including the MIC that exists largely to keep the oil flowing.  

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:39 | 4255891 knukles
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Who gives a Fuck


On a long enough time line, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
That includes all mankind.
Even as the collective species.

Take care of that which you can.
All other things will take care of themselves.

Mother Earth will be here long after mankind is gone.

The primary driver of "climate change" is the sun.
And Momma Universe don't pay taxes.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:46 | 4255910 W74
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I often wonder if the reason behind an increase in species diversification is increased radiation from the sun.  Increased radiation would allow for mutations to occur more frequently would it not?

I'll have to look it up, but an Isaac Asimov book called "The Naked Sun" (I think it's that one, but I've read so many by him) talks about a planet where a character says something like: "the plant life was essentially that of Earth, but retarded and stunted" because that planet didn't receive as much radiation and they were worried about it affecting their descendants over time.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 01:21 | 4256120 Michelle
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Based on that logic we should welcome more radiation...Bring it on Fukishima! Better yet, let's just nuke the planet!

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 10:27 | 4256905 FrankDrakman
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we should welcome more radiation

Repo Man beat you to it...

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 01:41 | 4263007 matrix2012
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There are MANY kinds of radiations and imo, definitely not that kinds delivered by FUKUSHIMA are favored for improving the living creature life on Mother Earth.

As an eliminating force, yes, the Fukushima radiation does perform!

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:49 | 4255918 OwnSilverPlayMusic
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Dude, I'm with you on a lot of things, but the money is in climate change alarmism.  David Rockefeller is one of the biggest supporters of so called "climate change".  Just go ask Al "the sex crazed poodle" Gore and his fucking oscar and nobel prize.  Do ya think he invented the internet too?

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:59 | 4255952 LetThemEatRand
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Our entire economy is built around cheap oil.  The Fed and the bankers make a lot of their money keeping that machine running, and printing dollars to fund it.   Without cheap oil, the economic engine that fees the Fed would cease to exist.  But they most certainly are not above finding profit on both sides of the debate.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 00:05 | 4255972 OwnSilverPlayMusic
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Yeah and the NWO is built on eugenics.  The alarmists are just as bad as the deniers.  Science should be apolitical.  But guilt is inherent to the human condition and the powers that be will gladly let you blame yourself while they use more fossil fuels in a day than an african village uses in a decade. 

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 10:24 | 4256893 FrankDrakman
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(double post deleted)

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 10:24 | 4256897 FrankDrakman
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Our entire economy is built around cheap oil.

A bullshit assertion with no backing. Orwell wrote the same back in the 1930's, in The Road to Wigan Pier, but he was writing about COAL, not oil.

Of course our society is built on energy, but one might as well say "our entire economy is built around electricity", as more energy is used in the US to generate electricity than anything else. (41% of final demand)

The article I referenced included a graph showing "the age of wood", "the age of coal", and "the age of oil". Even though oil is king right now, we still use a lot of coal. When the next big thing comes along - and there are many scientists working on artificial photosynthesis, where they will try to create natural gases like methane from CO2 and sunlight, which could be a massive development - oil will subside. It's the nature of human ingenuity in general, and engineers specifically, to look for ways to substitute cheaper/faster/smaller/more efficient elements, and as oil becomes more expensive, more of those ways will be found.

Unless, of course, one believes that humanity is getting ever stupider (the Idiocracy effect), and thus, no new discoveries comparable to those of Volta, Watt, or Otto will be made. Given the large number of people who swallow canards like 'global warming/climate change' whole, that may in fact be happening.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 00:08 | 4255978 Crawdaddy
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Global warming or global cooling..same thing. Same NWO liberty stealing solution.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:44 | 4255905 OwnSilverPlayMusic
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Corbett Report 10 Climate Change Myths Busted in 60 seconds

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:51 | 4255926 Freddie
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The global warming steak and caviar at the GW Conference gang never has an answer for that prickly question about how solar radiation/output varies.   We have no control over the sun, you cannot measure and you fraudsters don't even try - so deal with it lib fascists. 

GW is all about getting your next research grant and tenure.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 00:03 | 4255964 LetThemEatRand
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Right, because there's no money on the other side so it must be the grant money that is funding the "lie."   I know a lot of scientists and the ones who will say anything to earn a paycheck tend to work for big corporations.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 00:11 | 4255985 Crawdaddy
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What you say is true. I see it every day. A bunch of sell outs who can't wait to jump on board on the latest NWO panty raid.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 00:13 | 4255991 Harbanger
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If you had said, I know a lot of scientologists, maybe I'd believe it.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:54 | 4255938 clymer
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are you out of your mind?

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:40 | 4255890 W74
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In a continental interior (you're from the Bentonville/Fayetteville area right?) partially elevated in the Ozarks with no moderating influences from a nearby ocean?  And your days are only 9 hours long?  No way!

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:23 | 4255856 FranSix
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The big finds in the artic for diamonds in the North are Diavik and Ekati in the 1990's.  

Gold mines were also discovered in Nunavut and the Northwest territories, which were subsequently bought out by Newmont(Miramar) and Agnico Eagle(Cumberland, Meadowbank).  

There is one last undeveloped gold belt in Nunavut called Comittee Bay, under a company called North Country Gold.  They failed as a company during the financial crisis, even though Gold Fields owned 15% of the company.  They went banktrupt and re-IPO'd and are still in the same position with little capital interest.

Known undeveloped world class kimberlites are located in Saskatcthewan, but there is little capital interest for these formations, despite a re-invigoration of diamond prices.

Arctic oil and natural gas are probably not in the cards, as offshore Newfoundland and Alberta have all of the oil interest for years to come.  Did anyone notice that there was a recent, large oil discovery offshore Newfoundland by a Norweigian exploration company?

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:26 | 4255863 chubbar
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Great recap! Thanks for that! Now, on the other side of the world, let's hear what's happening in Antarctica? Oh yeah, a diamond discovery! Do Tell?

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 00:03 | 4255971 Freddie
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How much oil is estimated to be there in that find?   The Norweigians are wizards at working in cold and rough oceans.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 00:16 | 4255996 Crawdaddy
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You got that right Freddie. I worked closely with a few of those Norgie dudes back in the 90's and they were stand up dudes. The only guys in Europe that worked as hard as me or a mexican.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 06:53 | 4256411 FranSix
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There are also natural gas sources off the B.C. coast in a pristine area below the Alaska Panhandle.  

There has been a major proposal for a vast oil refinery on the B.C. coast to handle Albertan oil, but capital interests don't want the risk, since Canadian heavy oil trades at a major discount.  

There is also a proposal to build an oil refinery to process heavy crude from offshore Nfld, being run by a company called Altius Minerals, but can't find the necessary capital.


I think the guy in the video is full of crap.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:35 | 4255880 Taint Boil
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The idea that diamonds are rare and valuable is a relatively recent marketing idea by the diamond trade.

The notion that for centuries, men have given diamonds as symbols of marriage was a 'fact' created by copywriters of De Beers marketing department in the middle of the 20th century. They invented history by repeating the same message over and over again, and people believed it was true

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:35 | 4255884 W74
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Oh.  Woosh.  Good thing this is nothing to worry about.  Almost sounds like countries are gearing up for war over common carbon rocks metamorphosed by high pressure and medium heat into also relatively common hard gemstones.  I mean if it were Emeralds I could understand!

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:35 | 4255885 Diamond Jim
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While kimberlites are rare, one needs "indicator" minerals to even begin to think about a diamond prospect. Need to see Cr-diopside and G-35 pyrope garnets. But from a geologists view this is a significant find. Antartica should have old cratonic rocks, this confirms it. 

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:49 | 4255924 Crawdaddy
Wed, 12/18/2013 - 00:24 | 4256005 michael_engineer
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The ice may eventually melt, exposing just resources of several possible varieties but I wouldn't expect topsoil.  Even in the event of  global warming, I don't expect the area to be workable for decades due to extreme amounts of ice and weather currently in that area.   Will there be Capex available to exploit them under those conditions and in that time frame?  Maybe not.  I estimate the chances to be on the same order of mining asteroids or other solar system bodies.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 04:25 | 4256321 CHX
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"The ice may eventually melt"... I hope you are aware that Antarctica is the largest ice reservoir on earth. Almost twice the size of Australia and an ice sheet of an average thickness of >1km. That's a lot of frozen water. If that "eventually melt", then kiss any major city along the coasts of the world good-bye and redraw a world map with a LOT LESS LAND. Not a fun world, be assured, and mining in Antarctica will be the last problem on a long list of problems facing mankind, should there still be any humans left, that is.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 06:25 | 4256396 michael_engineer
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Agreed. Your points are very relevant and add weight to the conclusion that resource extraction from there will very likely not be seen in any significant way for a very long time. My guess is that it may need to wait until continental drift shifts it north to a more moderate location.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 01:06 | 4256087 Spungo
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I'm surprised anyone cares about finding diamonds. People are aware we can make those in labs, right? And they're everywhere in Africa? And there's no shortage of diamonds?

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 01:32 | 4256139 barroter
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DeBeers will get involved..then shut any Antartica mine down once they own it.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 01:51 | 4256164 Missiondweller
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Diamonds? BFD.


Wait till they discover oil and gold. The last unspoiled continent.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 06:29 | 4256398 SmittyinLA
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The treaty only applies to signatories of the treaty, most US treaties are to restrain development by US citizens and companies for the benefit of everybody else.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 06:36 | 4256401 falak pema
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Good, keep those Oligarchy shills destroying the planet out of the Poles. These predators are the bane of Mankind.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 08:02 | 4256477 Peter Pan
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Only 18 years left of mining?

What absolute BS.

Is anyone aware of how many tonnes of diamonds there are in warehouses which are drip fed to the market so as to keep price up?

Give me a crystal chandelier any day instead.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 09:10 | 4256626 the not so migh...
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De bears will bribe all politians to make sure the treaty is extended 10000 years

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 11:52 | 4257184 el Gallinazo
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De bears only live in the arctic and Chicago.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 09:26 | 4256693 Bryan
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"The problem is that the frozen continent is protected from mining for decades under an international treaty."

They didn't read the fine print in that treaty.  "...protected from mining as long as there is nothing to mine there."

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 12:05 | 4257250 el Gallinazo
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The real point of this Real (BS) News is to reinforce the idea of anhropogenic global warming, which has now been altered to Climate Change.  WTF, hard to argue  that the "climate changes."  But the ice cover in the artic ocean is up over 50% from a couple of years ago, the global temperature average has not increased since the '90's, and if anything, we are headed into another Little Ice Age which caused starvation in Europe and finished off the Viking colonies in Greenland.  This is just a huge scam on the part of the NWO, using its puppet UN as a cut out, to further impoverish the middle class and perhaps even begin a UN global taxation system.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 13:29 | 4257594 TNTARG
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Oh my God! Now they're gonna fuck up Antarctica too!

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 18:44 | 4258932 DFCtomm
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Nature is such a tease. We get a couple of warm seasons to get a taste of the resources that lie under the ice in the Artic and Antartic, but now we're entering a new cooling trend and it will all be buried once again. It's like a young Disney whore flashing us her shaved beaver as she exits a limo.

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 02:20 | 4263042 matrix2012
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Dogpile gives many good hits on "cap and trade agenda 21 david rockefeller" :-)


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