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If You Have Children, You Need To See These Numbers

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Submitted by Simon Black of Sovereign Man blog,

According to a recent survey by the Pew Research Center, just 33% of Americans think their children will have a better life than they did. On the other hand, 62% believe their children will be worse off.

They’re likely to be right.  The typical American family has seen its real income (adjusted for inflation) fall for 5 consecutive years now, and it earns less in real terms that it did in 1989.

According to the Census Bureau, median household income fell in 2012, and it languishes 8.3% below the pre-crisis peak in 2007.

The Brookings Institution, meanwhile, calculates that real incomes for working-age men in the US have fallen by 19 per cent since 1970.

(Of course, if you’re fortunate enough to be a member of the super-rich who, thanks in large part to central bankers driving up asset prices, saw their real incomes rocket by 20% in 2012.)

In Europe things look even more dire.  Just 28% of Germans think their children will be better off than they were.  In the UK it’s 17%, in Italy 14%, and in France just 9%.

In Britain, research by the Financial Times shows that those born in 1985 are the first cohort to suffer a living standard worse than those born 10 years before them.

Contrast this gloomy picture with China, where 82% think their kids will have it better than they did. In Nigeria, the number is 65%. In India, 59%.

It’s blatantly obvious that the West is in decline. And most people seem to understand this.

But this isn’t a bad news story. Wealth and power has constantly shifted throughout history. Five hundred years ago, it was the West that was rising and Asia in decline. Today it’s the exact opposite.

As Jim Rogers has said so many times before, if you were smart in the 1700s, you went to France. If you were smart in the 1800s, you went to England. And in the 1900s, you went to the US.

Today, it’s the developing world. That’s where the long-term opportunity is - Asia, Africa, and South America.

What’s happening in the developing world is nothing short of remarkable. One billion people are being pulled from the depths of poverty into the middle class… bringing with them untold possibilities for business, employment, and investment.

That’s one of the reasons why I travel so much, and why I spend so much time in Chile. I’m constantly amazed at the tremendous opportunities I come across in this country (which is still largely off the radar of most people).

It’s also what I encourage my students to do each summer at our entrepreneurship camps - seek out opportunities in countries that are rising suns, not setting suns.

If you have children, this is a great direction to influence them. Encourage them to learn another language, travel, and apply what they want to do to how the world is going to be in the future.

As Wayne Gretzky said, skate to where the puck is going to be.


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Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:14 | 4255229 Radical Marijuana
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The Sun is setting on the whole world.

There are no really "rising" countries!

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:20 | 4255246 Ying-Yang
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Yes... Central Banks are Pucking things up!

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:21 | 4255248 NotApplicable
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The BIS has blotted out the Sun.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:35 | 4255279 DoChenRollingBearing
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 I worry more about any grandchildren we may have...

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:48 | 4255304 Debeachesand Je...
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I have grandchildren and I hope they have their act together because a shitstorm is coming their way.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:17 | 4255346 forwardho
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As of Jan 2011, 50.4% of all children under the age of one in U.S. were from minority groups.

Draw your own conclusions on the state they may find themselves in 18 yrs


Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:41 | 4255394 TeamDepends
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It is well past time we think in terms of majority/minority, as it is a divide and conquer strategy they have used successfully for far too long.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 21:22 | 4255608 BLOTTO
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And then thats when the future new government steps in 'THX-1138/Hunger Games' style and 'help' take care of our children...



Tue, 12/17/2013 - 22:26 | 4255726 mofreedom
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Welcome back Carter!!!

There will be a Reagan to defeat you, and by you I mean the establishment repubs.

God Bless America!!!!!!

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 17:43 | 4258780 Abbie Normal
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Welcome them to the rest of the world, where the color of your skin does not invoke an automatic advantage any more.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:34 | 4255270 whatsinaname
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Read a  Time magazine supplement yesterday that talks about starfish along the Western Pacific coast losing their arms but failing to regenerate them like they normally do. The scientists are at a loss to determine what is causing this issue. Apparently they hope to identify the cause by next year.

Maybe TEPCO has an explanation ?


Tue, 12/17/2013 - 21:27 | 4255337 Radical Marijuana
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My view, whatsinaname, is that I believe it is more basic chemistry, systemically impacting, than the radiation from Fukushima so far ... Indeed, adding all those kinds of trends together, as they pile up on each other, and reinforce in feedback loops, are the main reasons why I hold my pessimistic views.

The fundamentally fraudulent financial accounting systems dominating the world, with the King of Fraud in each country being its Central Bank, and the King of Kings of Fraud being the BIS, are symbolic of the ways that civilization is controlled by lies, backed by violence, which enables those benefiting from that to more and more operate through evil deliberate ignorance. The basic idea that we can make "money" out of nothing, as debts, is INSANE, since it contradicts the basic laws of physics, which should be obvious to common sense. However, those who got away with legalizing that fraud, and having the governments back up that fraud with legalized violence, have been enabled to reinvest the profits from that fraud in more frauds. Therefore, the banksters, and the corporations that grew up around them, were able to dominate the funding of the educational institutions, as well as consolidate control over the mass media, so that our whole society ended up operating under deliberate ignorance, in the form of LIES BY OMISSION.

The most important social and environmental facts are deliberately ignored by the dominate social pyramid systems. Therefore, diffuse trends, like how all kinds of different pollution drive an overall chemistry inimical to living things, are apparently picking up speed, due to feedback loops. The destruction of the Western Pacific oceanic ecology has been accelerating since the European Invasion of Neolithic Civilization began. Things like wiping out the top carnivores, or keystone species, took place there. Such as wiping out the otters, so that then the sea urchin population exploded, so that then the kelp forests were devastated. The net result is that more than 90% of the oceanic ecology off the coast of British Columbia was already destroyed decades ago. What is happening now appears to be the runaway avalanche of consequences from degrading the ecosystems, with fundamental features being changes in the basic chemistry of the water. In that context, the radiation that is coming through the Pacific waters from Fukushima is going to become just one more injury, on top of many others, all adding together.

The basic problem, and the reason for my overall pessimistic view, is that our fundamentally fraudulent accounting system dominates everything else, despite that being based on being able to deliberately ignore the basic laws of nature, which should be widely accepted common sense, but actually are deliberately being ignored by the vast majority of people, since they live inside of a society whose entire structure is based on lies, backed by violence, which deliberately works to keep most people ignorant and afraid.

There are NO other countries anywhere that I am aware of that are not Neolithic style of civilization, social pyramid systems, based on force backed frauds, within which most people have adapted by maintaining an attitude of deliberate ignorance towards crucial social and environmental facts. We keep on privatizing the profits, while the political processes which do that are able to socialize the losses, in ways which ignore the systemic social and environmental effects. The whole world operates through death controls based on the maximum deceits, and debt controls based on the maximum frauds, which collectively are driving human civilizations to act more and more insanely.

Sure, there are relatively better off and worse off countries, and those which were down may come up, and vice versa, however the fundamentals are turning natural capital into garbage and pollution EVERYWHERE. Since we have a fundamentally fraudulent financial accounting system, it is practically impossible to fix any of those problems. Since those insane, but almost totally triumphant, frauds are entrenched and reinforced by all their short-term benefits, the longer term costs of getting away with doing that keep on piling up higher and higher. There are no places on planet Earth that I am aware of which are not forced to participate inside of the runaway rush to turn natural resources into garbage and pollution as fast as possible, because those doing that already totally dominate the accounting systems, and are therefore able to influence everyone else to agree to stampede through ...

Paradoxically, the "better" that countries may appear to do, for a while, the more that they are really destroying their own future. As far as I can tell, it is practically impossible to stop the people who are the best at being dishonest, and backing that up with violence, from controlling what civilization actually does. The longer term consequences of us doing that are adding up faster and faster now, towards reaching tipping points. It would be nicer if we could go through some turning point more aware of the need to. However, I am quite sure that the vast majority will continue to deliberately ignore what they should not as much as possible, for as long as possible, until finally the tipping points are drastic.

Although I sympathize with those who prepare, and even move to somewhere they think will be better, my overview has become that there is nowhere on planet Earth that is good enough. Indeed, North America, if anywhere, may be more likely to go through the political miracles needed, than most other places ... Therefore, I do not agree with the basic idea presented in this article above that escape to another continent is all that good of an idea. Another planet Earth ??? yes, that would be a nice day dream, or even a fresh continent, sure! However, there is nowhere on Earth that has not already be overrun by people, if that was possible to do there.

The combined runaway effects of civilization are destroying the natural world at an exponential rate, and that is a global phenomenon. However, since civilization is actually being controlled by the most dishonest and violent people, while those being controlled have adapted for many generations to accept living inside of that social pyramid system, I see no feasible ways that those systems can adapt better. Rather, those social pyramid systems are set up so that their "solutions" are going to become mass murders of the majority of the people who are relatively towards the bottom of the social pyramids, which "solutions" could readily runaway to become even worse ...

There are many real reasons to fear that the Earth's natural systems could be pushed to some point where they dramatically change their state, in ways which go utterly off the scale of anything previously in known human history. However, even if that is correct, we can practically guarantee that the established systems will continue to deliberately ignore that, as much as possible, for as long as possible ... which is why truly "solving" any problems appears impossible, although individuals are welcome to try their personal best, within their own circumstances ... including moving to another country, as their plausible fantasy for personal salvation.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 21:57 | 4255672 willwork4food
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Well said Rad. I might point out that evil ultimately destroys itself. The gig is up. People are becoming aware. Those tramps that hold signs @ your nearest HD that say "willwork4food" will be commonplace. There will be more and more 'Snowdons' marching through history, revealing the rot that is suppose to be respectable, which we all now know is not. Our only hope is these assholes won't take the planet out with them and if we have enough brave men & women that will be willing to lose their life to stop them. It's come to that.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:08 | 4255344 jbvtme
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that's one of many horror stories coming out of the pacific basin

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 20:07 | 4255438 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Maybe TEPCO has an explanation ?

Well of course they do, friend! Those aren't just ordinary starfish. That's Starry®, one of the adorable characters created to celebrate the 2020 Tokyo Summer Olympics!

It's taking him a little more time to regenerate those arms, but that's because each lost arm will regenerate as one of the five rings in the official Olympics symbol. He just needs a little more practice, but you just wait. Starry® will soon be lighting up the sea with the glow of official Olympic charm, magic, and wonder.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:20 | 4255247 fonestar
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The sun has always been setting on a defeatist mindset.

Those record corporate profits and banker bail-outs amidst a backdrop of record unemployment and part time workers only exist because of people passively accepting their lot in life.  Play the victim and a predator will gladly victimize you.  You don't need to end the Fed, you need to ignore the Fed.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:37 | 4255282 DoChenRollingBearing
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Gold, right?  ;)

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:50 | 4255309 Au_Ag_CuPbCu
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You don't need to end the Fed, you need to ignore the Fed and passively accept the consequences.  Fixed it for ya.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 20:56 | 4255564 Bobbyrib
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Ignore the price fixing and the fact that they control the value of the FRN's? A little harder than it is typing those words.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 21:10 | 4255592 CH1
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ignore the Fed and passively accept the consequences.


Walk away from the Fed and start building a better existence.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 22:43 | 4255734 Au_Ag_CuPbCu
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Sarcasm dumbass!  Just tired of fonefony's bullshit "everyone’s passive except me" drivel.  Guess it's a little high brow for have my deepest sympathies.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 22:52 | 4255787 willwork4food
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Right on Ch1. It's high time to stop feeling like a victim and doing something constructive.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:02 | 4255329 Kirk2NCC1701
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Allow me to add to cognitive dissonance of the sheep...

In a truly Christian nation, we would not have the situation we have.  We have created magnificent cathedrals to our new god:  Mammon.

All worship Mammon and despair!

p.s  But ye may still go to your little 'churches' on Sunday morning and PRETEND that you, your family, and your friends are still Christian in all but name and club-like affiliation.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 21:13 | 4255595 CH1
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The Churches of America have become organs of the state, and preach their War Religion.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 22:13 | 4255708 willwork4food
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I just had a passionate talk with my son's friend who is going into the Navy as an officer. Assured him he will see action, but it's all for the bank's owners, not for protecting America per se. Rattled him a bit...'specially when I asked him what felled building 7.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:06 | 4255334 forwardho
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Thanks for pointing that out fonestar, When all is falling around you... sell reinforced umbrellas.

Every day we make our own weather.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:04 | 4255335 DaddyO
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I suspect you can just ignore the thug who is trying to carjack your arse as well...

So taking it to a logical conclusion, just ignore the FED and nothing bad will happen.

Typical addict behavior, just ignore it and it will go away, right?


Tue, 12/17/2013 - 21:45 | 4255377 JuliaS
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1% are confident and 37% are delusional.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:46 | 4255399 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Radical Marijuana said:

The Sun is setting on the whole world.

There are no really "rising" countries!

And there are only submerging economies.


Full fathom five thy father's economy lies;
Of its bones are human corrals made;
His pearls cast to swine before his eyes;
Nothing of his that doth not fade,
But doth suffer a sea-change
Into possessions of the rich and strange.
CNBC-nymphs hourly ring its knell:
Hark! now I hear them -
Ding-dongs on Closing Bell.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:17 | 4255242 Seasmoke
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My kids are going to have a much better life than me. They are going to own a bank while in High School.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:35 | 4255278 Bendromeda Strain
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Why not - it happened in the Weimar Republic

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:24 | 4255251 Balvan
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Should i read this if i don't have children?

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:33 | 4255275 cougar_w
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No because it might convince you not to have kids, which is still IMO the best deal on earth.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:05 | 4255341 Wen_Dat
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The future is now


Destroy another fetus now 
We don't like children anyhow 
I've seen the future, baby: 
it is murder


Love having children BTW

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:13 | 4255352 Harbanger
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Cougars don't hate them, they date them.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:29 | 4255268 AccreditedEYE
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Somebody tell these kids to BTFATH

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:31 | 4255269 max2205
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1900s sucked in the USA. ...hey why isn't germany on that list...or Russia?   Oh wait

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:59 | 4255272 Son of Captain Nemo
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If this is where the "puck" obviously isn't, you need to be asking where 110 million Japanese will be moving to if they can't get this thing under control.

Anybody who says the latest saber rattling with China and the Diet's state secrecy provision(s) is "unrelated", and that Japan is just protecting "her interests" needs to sell me some of that opium the U.S. Army is cultivating in Afghanistan.

For Korea (North and South) China and Russia the contamination of the Pacific ocean could easily be construed as an act of war in and of itself.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:06 | 4255342 jbvtme
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110 million japanese going to need new digs? how about detroit and camden?

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 20:57 | 4255561 Son of Captain Nemo
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And just think, if we can fit them all into Detroit and Camden Obamacare will have many new enrollee(s) from the looks of it.

This story just keeps on getting worse.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:36 | 4255276 toady
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My kids are going to have it much better than I did, but that's only because my life is so horrible. I think a lot of these people are looking thru rose colored glasses at their lives.

Starvation, exposed to the elements, naked & scared. They won't be forced to deal with any of that.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:38 | 4255284 Bendromeda Strain
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I suggest you read or watch A Woman in Berlin.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:05 | 4255336 Son of Captain Nemo
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"My kids are going to have it much better than I did, but that's only because my life is so horrible"...

Your kids are only going to have it much better if you are sharing it with them.

Merry Xmas. Your best gift is living each day to watch them grow in your life and vice versa

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:36 | 4255281 lordbyroniv
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I LOL at all my friends that have kids.


I got myself a puppy.


Puppies are wayyyyyyyyyyy better than kids.



Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:50 | 4255308 The_Dude
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Ahh...delusion is a wonderful drug!

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:59 | 4255317 IridiumRebel
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You'll probably kill it. I'm sure the folks at the death home will give you a Christmas card after they wipe your ass and search your bag.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:59 | 4255322 chunga
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Why do you say that?

Being a parent is the most challenging and rewarding experience one can ever have. Last night I listened quietly while Mrs. chunga talked to our oldest who is considering very hard about having a baby. They talked for about 90 minutes and I was absolutely fascinated. From my experience; it takes *two* parents and there is no such thing as "taking a day off" from parenting.

We've all butted heads many, many times over the years but have managed to all still actually like each other. We have dogs too; but I doubt they'll be able to take care of us when we get old. Our kids take comfort in the fact that if they need us...we'll be here no matter what. And I'm not talking about money. Sometimes they ask for advice and don't get what they necessarily want to hear (my job). Other times they get unconditional love and understanding (wife's job). Everybody gets an equal say and it works for us. Our kids work hard and do ok, but they are very concerned about the future. I know if something happens to me, the kids will be there to take care of Mrs. chunga no matter and that's pretty cool.

(fwiw...i didn't junk you)

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:05 | 4255332 10mm
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To each their own. There are plenty out there who should of never had kids. As far as the death home, we won't see it. Advisory boards will take care of that.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:12 | 4255350 IridiumRebel
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Death Panel Mourning cards for all!

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 14:28 | 4257814 STP
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Agreed.  The biggest growth in California is from the Third World Illegal Immigrants, who have three to five kids, costing $12K a year apiece, but working at the Car Wash, Merry Maid or whatever service job they can eke out, while enjoying free babysitting money from the State of California, WIC, TANF, Section 8 and on and on and on.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:06 | 4255339 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1

We only had one, but everything you did, we did too.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:17 | 4255356 chunga
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In retrospect, I had the easy part (the stick).

True unconditional love (the carrot) is much more difficult. My wife (@110 lbs soaking wet) is the toughest person I've ever met.

30 years later, we've kind of blended. She puts her foot down - I listen - and back off. She does the same if I put my foot down.

We have two and they sometimes have their disputes. It's fun watching them occasionally wield sticks and carrots on each other.

They do some things they've both blasted me for in the past and even accuse the Mrs. for being a "softie" every once in a while!

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:20 | 4255359 Zero Point
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I'm raising mine like a mafia family:

Family loyalty before ALL others.

They work in the family business.

They are not only encouraged to live with, or near us, their whole lives, we expect it.

I expect my role to go from boss, to advisor someday.

The law is an ass. Treat it as such.

Corruption at every level is to be expected, anticipated, and successfully navigated.

They're only young yet, but I expect them to be tigers some day. The way they work together is already very encouraging.

Fuck what we THINK we know, bring the future on. Humans are tough, only crybabies would shrink from having kids.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:37 | 4255388 zapdude
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+1.  Interesting views, some of which are very compelling. 

Family loyalty is now becoming and will be very rare in the future.

Now I just need to start a (legitimate) family business...

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:51 | 4255404 Zero Point
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It's pretty simple really.

All you have to do is look at the things tptb discourage, and do that.

They discourage family unity, and societal cohesion most of all.

I can't do a whole lot about societal cohesion (though my neighbors all know us, and get regular supplies of our fresh eggs and fruit) but I sure can keep my family unit together.

If you look at oligarch families, they all run this way.

I don't think I've ever heard a bankster rabbiting on about how they want their damn kids to move out, or how they're relishing spending their inheritence.

Those attitudes disgust me btw.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 20:16 | 4255468 Cloud9.5
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Family loyalty is not real hard.  All you have to do is understand that your job is to get between the sharks and your kids.  We are expendable. They are not.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 20:56 | 4255556 Zero Point
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Damn straight Cloud.

Right up till the point the sharks start feeling an unusual tugging sensation in their mouth, and my kids have a strike on their line.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 20:51 | 4255543 10mm
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The Elite took care of the family. It's called the (Rico Statue).

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:21 | 4255364 Dingleberry
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An entire generation is being raised by single mothers or maybe blended this and that.  Dad is dead. On a societal level, these kids are doomed. Spare me the lone examples otherwise. I will give you entire cities in retort.


Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:27 | 4255375 chunga
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That's why I said it takes two. I'll never be a good mom...wife will never be a good dad.

Save the retort. I know all about that. We have our kids, we're glad we do and would not undo them.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:43 | 4255396 zapdude
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+1.  Good for you. 

We have more kids and they're younger, but I hope to give them better than I had, in spite of what's become of this country (USA).

You can purchase citizenship in Domincan Republic for as low as $25,000 per person, which would allow them to repudiate the so-called debt burden they inherited through their US citizenship.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 21:01 | 4255577 Miffed Microbio...
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When I look back at my life and all I have accomplished, my hard won degree, my skill at my job that has touched hundreds of lives of people who do not even know I saved them, I don't feel any real sense of great pride. These things, had they not been done by me, would have been done by many other qualified people. When I am dust and gone from this earth no one will remember any of it. However, to see my well adjusted hard working children facing the challenges today and not whining or complaining as so many of their friends do, I do feel happy I have done something right. To raise a child today is incredibly difficult. To raise a child who turns out tenacious, strong, independent and gracious borders on miraculous.


Tue, 12/17/2013 - 21:13 | 4255597 chunga
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Well said.

One of the best microbiologists ever to walk this earth also hailed from San Diego.

Dr. Royal Raymond Rife.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 00:22 | 4256015 Miffed Microbio...
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I do know of him. I have a friend who lived down the street from him in Ocean Beach and told me many stories about him. I wish I could have learned his methodologies and applied his techniques. Today, now that our effective arsonal of drugs are becoming useless, maybe alternative methods such as his will be reexplored. Of course, not until some corporation can have exclusive rights to it to make a hansom profit.


Tue, 12/17/2013 - 20:10 | 4255443 nmewn
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"I LOL at all my friends that have kids. I got myself a puppy."

When I lived down in the city my next door neighbor got a puppy that grew into a pretty cool dog. He used to chain it up in the backyard cuz it shit in his house and laid around on his furniture...but it was a REALLY long leash because "he cared", apparently.

One day I came home and found the dog half way down my side of the fence, dead, hung himself...prolly chasing a squrriel or sumpin. When I said "Hey, your dog is dead in my backyard, I cut him down off his leash, you might wanna come get him."...he was shocked...then remarked "Well, I wasn't ready for all the hair anyways."

I'm sure theres a moral in there somewhere, just glad you settled on a dog ;-)

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 20:12 | 4255460 chunga
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Merry Christmas nmewn.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 20:45 | 4255523 nmewn
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Merry Christmas Chunga! ;-)

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:38 | 4255287 cougar_w
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Asia and the developing countries rode to their current greatness sucking the blood out of the developed world's middle-class. That is not their fault; our own governments and multinational corporations offered middle-class blood for 3rd-world laber, and the developing world drank it. They would have been crazy not to.

But now the middle-class is bled dry.

Going to be really interesting to watch and see exactly how this works out now. But right off hand I'd have to say I'm not confident they get to enjoy their nouveaux-rich lifestyles for very long, and the money in their countries is going to flee for more temperate markets.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:57 | 4255415 Kirk2NCC1701
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Friend, you may be either misinformed or confused:

It was not the foreign countries that bled us dry, but us bleeding them:  We take their resources and cheap labor -- in exchange for bits of confetti that we print in endless amounts.  If they disagree, we promptly decide that they have an "oppressive regime" (unlike S, Arabia) and inject "democracy".  If well-organized and well-funded "protests" via the CIA & NSA don't work, we escalate to Sanctions.  If these don't work, we then send in the Al-CYA-Duh goons (hired mercs).  And if all else fails, we send in the Marines.  As long as the world accepts our petro-dollars, we can print & fund our all these and our Gunboat Diplomacy till the cows come home.

If "our" US jobs went overseas, it was not them who "stole" it.  It was OUR red, white & blue corporate executives: our stock-option and bonuses-addicted executives who decided to fire us and hire them.  Even our Technology that they have is something that OUR execs ordered our Engineers to transfer to them.  Having been involved in this process intimately, I can give your gory details, that will send your PB into the danger-zone.

Please realize that when a company is no longer a "national" entity, but a global entity, it ceases to be "patriotic" in its "Americanism".  At that point, its execs care first and foremost about themselves and their (global) shareholders.  Even if they continue to play the "patriotic" song for PR purposes and calming effect on its sheeple.

While you may "love" your company, always remember that your company does not "love" youYou are an ASSET.  A usable and expendable Asset.  No more, no less.  If you want "love", go see your family, lover, or therapy group.

Dorothy, you are no longer in Kansas.  And this is no longer a "Christian" nation.  The truth may hurt, but there it is. 

Suggest you hedge and plan accordingly.  Cheers.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 20:29 | 4255492 Exponere Mendaces
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Very true, every time somone blames China, they should be blaming who actually decided to send all their production to their factories - the CEO's and directors.

China is also better equipped to handle a slowdown, they've only been around for hundreds of years in various forms, unlike the upstart United States, which is a wet-behind-the-ears-newbie by comparison.

They're going to cast the USA off like a sinking barge, which it is, and when the final dollar tether is cut, then they'll be riding into the sunset of shifting their economy from export to consumer-oriented, servicing their own citizens and neighbors.

The USA is 'effed, and all I read is about how the rest of the world is screwed - all penned by US-Centric interests.

Yeah sure, I think the rest of the world will be just fine when the global bully finally hits the dirt.


Tue, 12/17/2013 - 22:04 | 4255684 CoastalCowboy
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Right on!

The only company I can love is the little one I own. I do like my client's ones though.

Personally, I've severed myself from these sociopath led mega corps as much as I humanly can and get further away with each passing day.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:49 | 4255303 Clowns on Acid
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We'll see how that great China / Asia story works out when the Berwank begins the taper tomorrow.

What? Oh.... right...Berwank ain't going to taper.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 18:59 | 4255327 buzzsaw99
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...62% believe their children will be worse off.

and they just keep having more. retards all.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:17 | 4255360 max2205
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100% of FSA parents say their kids are gonna do great!

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 21:05 | 4255586 Platinum
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A gal I know just had kid #7. She was pregnant so soon after kid #6, that I lost count. They are 100% dependent on the government. As much as I worry about my situation with just me, they are hellaciously fucked when the bottom finally drops out.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:27 | 4255368 Kirk2NCC1701
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Western societies have simply reached Peak Consumption that the rest of the world is willing to tolerate or contribute to.

The simple reality/truth is: The Demographics of an aging population, addicted to cheap resources, cheap energy and cheap labor is simply NOT sustainable.

There is a great re-balancing going on in the world: The standard of living is falling in the West. and rising in the rest (of the world).  Learn to understand it, to accept it and, if possible, to even embrace it.  Cause you'll have to anyway.

Some will adapt and survive or even thrive.  Others will get or scrape by, and maybe even die.  Most will stay, some will leave.  The ones leaving will be admired some, envied by others, and resented by others still (for having either the skills or the courage to leave that they themselves lack).

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:30 | 4255379 El Vaquero
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It'd be easier to embrace a simpler life if the fucking government would get out of our faces. 

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:24 | 4255369 Kirk2NCC1701
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I recall the ZH blogger "McMolotov" saying that he was taking his family to Canada, before he disappeared off this site a few weeks later (this summer). 

Honestly, I'm looking to do the same -- given the cost of education and health care, the Fed, the IRS, the NSA and the militarization of its LEAs. 

If I were younger or single, I'd already by in S. Amer. or Asia.  Maybe even in Russia's Tech Valley.  Heard from Paul McCartney about those Georgian girls keeping their boyfriends warm at night.

"Have passports, laptop, skills, experience.  Will travel".

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:40 | 4255395 IridiumRebel
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We are looking into Panama.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 20:59 | 4255575 Platinum
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Panama has lots to offer. Love the gold jewelery I've seen coming from there. When the world cools down in a decade or so, I'd like to make the trip myself, instead of just relying on friends.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:24 | 4255371 22winmag
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Fuck everything and everyone outside the U.S.


Install barbed wire and machinegun nests to keep out foreigners and their foreign influence. 

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 19:43 | 4255397 FieldingMellish
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I'm sure those on the outside looking in are thinking the same thing.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 20:45 | 4255522 Shizzmoney
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The Federal Reserve and its policy of endless money printing and QE4EVA have priced me out of having children

Pussy has never been cheaper, however

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 21:11 | 4255594 ncdirtdigger
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You people act as if the government is going to run out of cheese. There is a reason they call it 'surplus'.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 21:26 | 4255622 MFLTucson
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Look what the fucking Wall Street moneychangers did to your children.  Forget the gun issue the fool-in-chief talks about, it is him and his communsit friends along with this group of  bankers that have ruined the world. Exactly what they did to Germany in the 1930's.  They suck and need to be removed.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 21:45 | 4255647 Incubus
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this country is fucked.


people are too stupid.  many of you on this blog are as clueless as the sheeple you hate so much. That's the ironic beauty of it.


fucking jokers. keep on playing into the divide and conquer plan they've set up instead of educating people.


Information--facts--will persist through the fictions of "reality."  Many of you lack perspective, and you're going to pay for it in the long run.  I'll only offer my derision because you lot, of all people, should know better, but choose to coddle yourselves in false perception of "enemies" constructed to control you, the "opposition."

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:34 | 4255877 tchild2
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Enjoy that smog and pollution in those Chinese cities.  Wow, what opportunity!  There are slave wage jobs to be had there by the millions.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:48 | 4255914 Decimus Lunius ...
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Hahaha.  Move to or work in Africa?  Get the fuck out of here.  Teach your kid organic chemistry so that he or she or it can always be one step ahead of the DEA.  Designer drugs that the rest of us will be clamoring for as we begin to fully appreciate just how little substance life offers.  Either that or teach your child to accel at convincing others how important they are without any real achievement.  They will be primed to climb that corporate ladder.

Tue, 12/17/2013 - 23:49 | 4255923 BringingTheRukus
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I'm a sucker for hockey analogies. Throw in 99's daughter and I'm all over china.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 02:24 | 4256211 Notarocketscientist
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Why would anyone have children?  You know they will end up living like rats on some street corner when the shit hits right?  Think ahead people - only a fool would have a kid these days

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 03:21 | 4256287 John_Coltrane
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I'm sure all these wonderful countries mentioned in the article have constitutional provisions protecting gun ownership as well as a history of personal property rights.  Can anyone mention one country that has both?  Certainly, not in the EU, Canada, Mexico, Africa, all of South America etc.  Think I'll stick around here and wait for the parasites to die off from their own incompetence and dependence on .gov.  Yeah, there's a huge exodus to Africa just like there is to Detroit.  And we know what both have in common, don't we? 

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