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Opposition To Obamacare Soars To Record High
Since the President's Obamacare legislation became law, it has never had such widespread opposition according to CNN's latest poll with 62% of those polled "opposed" the law and only 35% were in favor. Results also indicated most Americans predict their medical care costs will increase under the ironically-titled "Affordable Care Act". As UPI reports, "opposition to Obamacare rose 6 [percentage] points among women, from 54% in November to 60% now, while opinion of the new law remained virtually unchanged among men," CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said. "That's bad news for an administration that is reaching out to moms across the country in an effort to make Obamacare a success." Maybe Americans just need another day to decide?
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Another day, another cartel.
Assholes.
Hah ha ha ha ha ha
And this was a CNN poll, water carriers for the administration, deluxe
Merry Christmas, Mr President.
Now now knukles...we were told by Haaahvahd egg heads that there were THIRTY MEEELIYAWN people uninsured just chomping at the bit to throw their money at insurance companies, so we had to totally fuck up the other NINETY PERCENT so congresscritters & insurance companies could find out if it was really true!
It wasn't.
I would anticipate breaking new records on an ongoing weekly rate from here on out.
Oh hell yeah!
The numbers are what we say they are!
Just wait till insurance companies find out the pool of people they have. They are all going to run from this thing next year.
By 'run' do you mean start bankrupcy procedure?
Nope, Obombercare has a "bailout the insurers" clause hidden in the law.
They negotiated a no lose deal that hits the taxpayers with the bill.
Watch what happens by November when corporations drop healthcare for employees.
There are deep-in-the-weeds protections baked into the Affordable Care Act: risk adjustment, reinsurance, and risk corridors…
Risk corridors will play the biggest role if the individual mandate does get delayed. Their entire purpose is to stabilize premiums during the first three years of Obamacare, when it’s especially difficult for insurers to price plans.
Here’s how it works: exchange plans (QHPs) projected how much their risk pool would cost overall in 2014, their “target” cost. If they’ve significantly miscalculated—or, say, if a mandate delay causes adverse selection that they couldn’t have predicted—HHS will take action…
http://www.conservativeintel.com/2013/10/25/now-we-find-out-whats-in-it-...
Correct-a-mundo.
Risk corridors...be prepared chiiilriiin...lol.
Fuck you Obama you corrupt, miserable POS.
Isn't Fascism GREAT?!
(is the sarc necessary? I can never tell these days)
The goal is single payer, police state control and continuing to screw what is left of the middle class. Our old healthcare system was a dream compared to this.
Dear Santa, Please bring the men of this country a set of balls for christmas.........
And Santa, don't forget to give them plenty of .308, .223 plus a few guillotines and Corzine's home address.
Freddie, let's not forget some 00 buck for all the naughty children. People on ZH are so quick to forget the shotgun, and all its variable balistics.
Here you go bro. Kristi ringing the metal plate at 150 yards with a Remington 870 and slugs. Brandon (her now I guess hubby admiring the "shotgun"). They are in Kentucky.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrwUxYwhJvE
This guy is a crazy good shot shooting slugs here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vaa6wsw7Ts
For the finance crowd: I believe the only publically traded firearm manufacturers left are RGR and SWHC. These will probably be the next big bubble, so pile on in while there's still room before the pop. Besides, I'm not satisfied with unloading my RGR after having only made an 80% return on it this year, so if someone would like to drive it a little higher for me that would be "much appreciated".
I live on the KY border. If the FSA comes, close range=shotgun rage.
There is no room for the middle class in a socialist state. Just the ruling elite and the servants
Slavery requires the consent of the slave.
"Isn't Fascism GREAT?!"
"It can happen here, because there has been no change and there has been no progress and there has been no increase of understanding on the part of men for their fellow man. What worries me deeply, and I have seen it exemplified in this case, is that we in America are in great danger of slowly evolving into a proto-fascist state. It will be a different kind of fascist state from the one of the Germans evolved; theirs grew out of depression and promised bread and work, while ours, curiously enough, seems to be emerging from prosperity. But in the final analysis, it's based on power and on the inability to put human goals and human conscience above the dictates of the state. Its origins can be traced in the tremendous war machine we've built since 1945, the "military-industrial complex" that Eisenhower vainly warned us about, which now dominates every aspect of our life. The power of the states and Congress has gradually been abandoned to the Executive Department, because of war conditions; and we've seen the creation of an arrogant, swollen bureaucratic complex totally unfettered by the checks and balances of the Constitution. In a very real and terrifying sense, our Government is the CIA and the Pentagon, with Congress reduced to a debating society. Of course, you can't spot this trend to fascism by casually looking around. You can't look for such familiar signs as the swastika, because they won't be there. We won't build Dachaus and Auschwitzes; the clever manipulation of the mass media is creating a concentration camp of the mind that promises to be far more effective in keeping the populace in line. We're not going to wake up one morning and suddenly find ourselves in gray uniforms goose-stepping off to work. But this isn't the test. The test is: What happens to the individual who dissents? In Nazi Germany, he was physically destroyed; here, the process is more subtle, but the end results can be the same. I've learned enough about the machinations of the CIA in the past year to know that this is no longer the dreamworld America I once believed in. The imperatives of the population explosion, which almost inevitably will lessen our belief in the sanctity of the individual human life, combined with the awesome power of the CIA and the defense establishment, seem destined to seal the fate of the America I knew as a child and bring us into a new Orwellian world where the citizen exists for the state and where raw power justifies any and every immoral act. I've always had a kind of knee-jerk trust in my Government's basic integrity, whatever political blunders it may make. But I've come to realize that in Washington, deceiving and manipulating the public are viewed by some as the natural prerogatives of office. Huey Long once said, "Fascism will come to America in the name of anti-fascism." I'm afraid, based on my own experience, that fascism will come to America in the name of national security."
Jim Garrison Interview
Playboy magazine, October 1967
www.whale.to/b/jim_garrison_i.html
The press made this man out to be an idiot- but he was 40 years ahead of time- now just WHO are the idiots?
Just put it off balance sheet, like everyone else.
This is a strange form of psychedelics in some way...
George Cranston: ALICE!
http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/alice/
They deserve it, they lie down with dogs, they get up with fleas.
Of course we already know what will happen...bail-in/bail-out on anyone unprepared for the shitstorm, its not sustainable without the "healthy kiddies" who were sold shit for frrreeeee! signing up in droves...which ain't happening.
Personally, I don't think it was ever designed to work, it never could, what they really want plain ole state taxation...errrr, ummm, single payer.
They're just amazed that their social engineering scheme collapsed so quickly and on their watch where they will be held completely accountable...lol.
Its not like we didn't try to tell these limo riding cretins that "kids" (like we were) have no money to extort but have endless energy to expend on those who thieve them.
Good times ahead ;-)
"Good times ahead" Answered with "Gentlemen, prepare to defend yourselves" Slide lock on a .45 "clack"..
It is going to get sporty..
It will be called the "Emergency Care plan". You sign up for 9.5% of your salary to be deducted for the rest of your life, and the Feds pay for "everything" (everything that the insurers think you need). This plan will be offered when those who thought they were signed up for Obamacare go to the doctor or hospital and find that the premiums haven't been paid or paper work lost (see HAMP).
30 million uninsured has grown to 35 million when you count those that have lost their Private HC against the puny number that have signed up for 0zer0care. That 35 million number will more than double next year when 50 million people lose their Employer sponsored HC. When the 2014 election comes around it will be all about how 0zer0care has caused more people to be uninsured after the ACA went into effect than before. Plus those that have insurance yet, will be paying on average, about double the cost. The shitstorm that is going to hit next election is going to be epic.
Count me as uninsured prior to Obama(Don't)Care, and count me as uninsured after Obama(Don't)Care as well --- because I will not now nor EVER comply with such an egregiously fascist, intrusive, paternalistic, rights and privacy-stripping law.
NEVER!
The agents who go door to door collecting the fines from the scofflaws who well, scoffed, should probably go ahead and sign up for the double-plus good Gold Plan, as well as carry some extra plasma in the first-aid kit.
"The shitstorm that is going to hit next election is going to be epic."
They are planning on NO "next election"!
The Obama FSA doesn't was to throw their money at insurance companies, they want to throw your money at insurance companies.
AKA the Communist News Network LMAO it's been a bad year for them
Nov. 2013 Ratings: CNN Shows Hit Year Lowshttp://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/nov-2013-ratings-cnn-shows-hit-year-lows_b205174
TV is all shit along with Hollywood. It all support O but fools keep watching and keep them in control.
His highness don't care bout no stinkin polls.
i have no doubt the real approval is about 12-15%.
My opposition is 110%! Mrs Free and I refuse to participate in this theft.
Well, if your a fairly devout Christian, try a healthcare ministry. Basic rules: non smoker, never drink till drunk (that disqualifies most of us ), attend church on an average of 3 times monthly when you can.
Benefit: $45-$155 per month for $125,000 coverage, up to $1 million with additional charge, fully AMA compliant. One plan pays you directly after submission by you. the other two I found has the members send you checks or you designate your payment to an individual on a monthly newsletter, near as I can tell. It's not insurance, it is joining a benefit pool of sorts.
https://startpage.com/do/search?language=english&cat=web&query=Christian...
If you're a fairly devout christian my recommendation would be to stop giving yourself over to the desires and demands of evil men in positions of false authority over you.......
Well if you are a devout Christian pull the plug on TV and Hollywood because they all support this. Don't support their theme parks and other crap aka anything Disney, Universal and others.
@ A Lunatic I'm not here preaching the faith. I honestly don't give two shits who people wanna worship, excepting vile Muslims, who have no religion, but an ideology that is totalitarism based. Kinda like Obummer... Peeps can do what they want, I don't care. It's your life not mine. I'm just trying to give options to those that are positioned to take advantage of this, which I am not. The 3 times a month in church has to do with, I suspect, getting a signoff from a preacher that you deserve to be a part of the group. Kinda like payin union dues I suppose although no one ever brings that up with the vitriol that religion brings forth from the atheists. Personally, if it saves you lots of $ and you're willing, meh... Me, meh, not worth the trouble either way.
@ Freeeie I pulled the plug long ago as I have better things to do than mind melt/waste time on Hollywood TV. I do get FTA (Free
To Air) Sat TV from around the world by Satellite I built several years back to get real news, not the shit that is presented by the propagandists. I also get FTA local news only for weather. Ahead of ya'all.
I do believe in Christmas as a long held tradition so Merry Fuckin Christmas to everyone. Love it or hate it, you're gonna experience it.
People need options, no doubt, and yours is a fine one for those inclined to work within the boundaries of a corrupt system that is hellbent on destroying the individuals freedom of choice in everything from what kind of light bulbs we use to which doctor we can see. Ultimately everyone will have a choice to make, and ultimately reap the rewards or consequences of those choices.
Thank you for a reasonable discord.
Whether one is a devout Christian or a devout Atheist, this is a way to save big bucks and get in on the game. It is all a game called Cloward-Piviens.
If one is not a Christian, claim hard of hearing, get an audio book, wear it in church 3 days a month and save between $400-$800 a month with no deductible of $4000-$12000 under Obummer care.
Just a thought.
Friends and Family arriving so I must sign off. Merry Christmas from one capitalistic asshole to all of the rest of you.
Don't like Merry Christmas? FUCK YOU then as I don't care what you like or dislike. I'm no longer going to be PC you liberal fucktuards. lol
re: "excepting vile Muslims, who have no religion"
Abrahamic religion...
Thanks. This looks pretty good. I will have to go on the wagon though. (I am not a big drinker anyway). Merry Christmas.
Obama is on his Affordable Golf Act and the Chief Clown will hopefuly go for a swim with his family and dose themselves in radiated waters in Hawaii.
Can we add some mutant great whites and pirhanas?
The 35% in favor of Obamacare and 62% against it,reflects the same ratio in two recent elections.
In the 2012 Election results in Colorado,Voters rejected a Proposition that would have raised 1 Billion Dollars to finance Schools across the state.
In 2012 Election,Voters in Arizona rejected keeping a 1 Cent raise in the Sales Tax to finance Schools etc across the state.
The 1-Cent increase in the Sales Tax sunseted in May 2013.
Better get used to it, I doubt it can rolled back without penalty clauses kicking in, like every other Government/Private "Partnership".
Did anybody in Congress read the fine print, Did anybody in Congress even bother to read the large print.
This poll gives me some faith in Americans, because they are apparantly smart enough to realize they've been screwed.
It doesn't matter! The statist thugs of both parties have done nothing but hot air, oh wait, they "deemed" it passed! The freaking Suprreme Court caved on a clearly unconstitutional law. Actually, that the people have not staged a coup complete with lamp posts discourages me greatly.
the stupid idiots got what they voted for.....this is one of those times where voters got their just desserts...vote for a nazi and you get nazi government.....vote for a lying indonesian manchurian candidate nazi, and you get nazi government.
Tony, That amazes us! Love it.
I'm glad the president gave me one more day, still hate it.
17 days of golf and sun in Hawaii.
Must be nice.
Golf, sun, surf, and for a change of pace, order up some killer drone hits. Today is Christmas Eve, Terror Tuesday, the day of the "Dispositon Matrix" -- can't let the holiday interrupt that business.
Obummer is an aloof prick who doesn't realize what a braying ass he is.
I wonder how much of that opposition is toward the real issue: It's Unconstitutional.
"In the past revolutions had to invent an ideology to have a unifying core. Americans of today need only re-embrace their founding and remove all that doesn't fit."
I wonder if people will remember this during the next elections?
I like the sentiment, but I kinda doubt it. People have too short of an attention span. Think about the fact that although congress has an approval rating of about 10%, about 90% of them still get reelected. Despite all the "throw them all out" rhetoric you here all the time, most people think that about congress as a whole, but insist that "my guy is one of the good ones"
FUCK YOU GOVT/BANKER/INSURANCE MOTHERFUCKERS!
Whew!!! I feel better ... but recognize I'm/we're still fucked...
Opposition!? My family plan just went up 60% or how's $800 bucks a month sound toy you? Fucking commies!
Ain't this cool?
Its Christmas Eve, we're all sitting around in our favorite warm footie pajamas, cradling steaming mugs of hot chocolate, talkin bout ObamaCare...ROTFLMAO!!!
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=pajama+boy&qpvt=pajama+boy&FORM=IGRE
Merry Christmas nmewn...your comments have brought me many smiles this year. Thanks.
I'm just sitting by the fire for a quick break from the table. My 'jammies aren't too far in the future.
And a Merry Christmas to you too sir, I am comforted to know that I could bring a smile to someone else in my oft times dark moods, behind this mask lies a seething rage, this helps me (rightly or wrongly) control it.
But for tonight, I have also built a fire, a Christmas Story is on ("You'll shoot your eye out kid!"...lol) and I plan on being almost hungover for tomorrow morning.
Merry Christmas to all ;-)
You won me over with a Christmas Story. Your evening is matching mine, keep pouring the drinks!
I'm drinkin' a Bittburger beer but cheers to you.
Starman - I assume the only reason you're paying the $800/month ransom is fear of bankruptcy?
That is what this is all based on, FEAR.
Here is another Christian healthcare sharing type of insurance. The other one
http://mychristiancare.org/
Here is the other one the other lira fellow mentioned:
http://www.chministries.org/countingthecost.aspx
<---Fuck Obamacare
<--- I'm a stupid fearful sheep. baaaah, baaaaah, muuust obeeeeey.........
I blame it on the Obamanable Snowden.
Wait till you or a family member meets the death panel. You could make your final appeal to Ezekiel, or make the payment at your local party office.
Or take some apparatchik's with you in a blaze of glory because you have nothing to lose.
I understand incarcerated felons get free healthcare...
They'd be more worthy to Ezekiel than an older person, unincarcerated.
Who needs death panels? Your Obamacare policy will cover a certain network of hospitals. They will be crappy regional hospitals*, that do not provide specialty care for dread diseases. You get a dread disease. Well, there you go: you get the regional hospital care treatment, and die. No death panel needed.
*Well, to be honest the policy will likely cover one crappy regional hospital.
This will screw even the rich. The specialty/research hospitals are going to go under, since they will not have enough clients to be a going concern: they won't be getting insured patients, and rich cash patients are far too rare.
This thing has to be a Trojan Horse.
I cannot believe it has any purpose other than to obliterate the economy and usher in full Soviet Central Planning.
No just that, but the lack of actual healthcare will kill millions of Americans, so they get the population reduced without using guns or concentration camps.
It is a Trojan for Single Payer aka the govt controlling everything.
Do I understand correctly that 35% of the population is either unemployed, disabled or retarded?
Fuck, 35% being retarded ALONE is far too low.
FUCK...THAT...SHIT.
just say no chumps.
just stand down
just fucking dis engage or however you spell it.
do not comply turkey eeees
take lugols
make your own liposomal vitamin c.
take back control of your body.
doctors are killers you silly lovely sick people
they want you paying then later dead.
eustace mullins murder by injection told us decades ago what this racket was about.
just say no children.
All you need to know about healthcare is who is attacking vitamin and supplement on behalf of the pharmaceutical (chemical) industry:
John Al Qeada in Syria McCain-NWO (and my admiral pappy sold out the USS Liberty)
Dick Turbin D-Illinois
This news is big trouble for Obama$care.
The hand that rocks the cradle, rules the world, for better or worse. Cynics and idealists both know this.
Impeach O'bomba is gathering mom-entum.
...In other news; Independent polling show's that 35% of Americans are Absolute Idiots! These Idiots are commonly reffered to as "Sheeple!"
The two ardent liberals that I know best think that Obamacare is a terrible, awful disaster. As a consequence, they want a single-payer plan, run by the federal government. I try to point out to them that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BROUGHT THEM OBAMACARE. This does not get through to them. They are of the firm and absolute belief that the federal government should be in charge of health care. Sometimes I think my brain will melt and trickle out of my ears.
Hopefully this court case can stick. This law is just so unbelievably bad and not even what was passed. Obama is just legislating by the seed of his pants with the law as his "guideline" by this point
http://dhnnews.com/obamacare-has-a-new-challenge/
Bullshit. Implement Obamacare, which is based on RomneyCare in Massachusetts (where how many people are complaining? none). After 3-5 years, evaluate how many USERS actually like Obamacare.
People on Wall Street, connected to the Rothchids, the Koch Brothers, the Walton families, to insurance companies, paid shills, investor analytist, and who have money sitting in offshore accounts should be identified as such and completely ignored.
Anybody care what Mitt Romney is doing for Christmas? no. RomneyCare is working as planned in Massachusetts, and that's all we need to know.
And it just keeps getting better: http://nypost.com/2013/12/25/new-obamacare-fees-coming-in-2014/
"The new taxes on one customer’s bill added up to $23.14 a month, or $277.68 annually, according to Kaiser Health News. It boosted the monthly premium from $322.26 to $345.40 for that individual.
The new taxes and fees include a 2 percent levy on every health plan, which is expected to net about $8 billion for the government in 2014 and increase to $14.3 billion in 2018."
Years ago Webster Tarpley (yes I know the guy is a socialist, but he's a smart motherfukcer) said that Obamacare as a single payer system is a lie and is nothing more than a bailout for the insurance companies on our dime. Tuned out to be true.
You can't utterly control and bankrupt a society until you control all the major fronts, right? Get people even more enslaved and indebted to the apparatus and the sheeple are skittering around the corral looking for a place to take a dump.
Christ on a goddamn pony, aside from a little holiday gluttony, I go way out of my way to stay clean and never nead this lethal shitstain of the mainstream medical system.
What and who are at fault for this mess beyond us?
Republicans, Democrats and especially the MSM. No one has "read" the law completely and given us the consequences of it would be A, B, C.
Sure, there was the funny and ironic "we'll know what's in it after we pass it" but it seems no one bothered to do just that!