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"You're Simply Continuing To Feed The Wolves Of Wall Street" - One Victim's Open Letter To The Kings Of Hollywood

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First posted by Christina McDowell in the LA Times

An Open Letter to the Makers of The Wolf of Wall Street, and the Wolf Himself

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, dear Kings of Hollywood, but you have been conned.

Let me introduce myself. My name is Christina McDowell, formerly Christina Prousalis. I am the daughter of Tom Prousalis, a man the Washington Post described as "just some guy on trial for penny-stock fraud." (I had to change my name after my father stole my identity and then threatened to steal it again, but I'll get to that part later.) I was eighteen and a freshman in college when my father and his attorneys forced me to attend his trial at New York City's federal courthouse so that he "looked good" for the jury -- the consummate family man.

And you, Jordan Belfort, Wall Street's self-described Wolf: You remember my father, right? You were chosen to be the government's star witness in testifying against him. You had pleaded guilty to money laundering and securities fraud (it was the least you could do) and become a government witness in two dozen cases involving your former business associate, but my father's attorneys blocked your testimony because had you testified it would have revealed more than a half-dozen other corrupt stock offerings too. And, well, that would have been a disaster. It would have just been too many liars, and too many schemes for the jurors, attorneys or the judge to follow.

But the records shows you and my father were in cahoots together with MVSI Inc. of Vienna, e-Net Inc. of Germantown, Md., Octagon Corp. of Arlington, Va., and Czech Industries Inc. of Washington, D.C., and so on -- a list of seemingly innocuous, legitimate companies that stretches on. I'll spare you. Nobody cares. None of these companies actually existed, yet all of them were taken public by the one and only Wolf of Wall Street and his firm Stratton Oakmont Inc in order to defraud unwitting investors and enrich yourselves.

As an eighteen-year-old, I had no idea what was going on. But then again, did anyone? Certainly your investors didn't -- and they were left holding the bag when you cashed out your holdings and got rich off their money.

So Marty and Leo, while you glide through press junkets and look forward to awards season, let me tell you the truth -- what happened to my mother, my two sisters, and me.

The day my father had to surrender to prison, I drove him. My mother had locked herself in the bathroom crying and throwing up, becoming nothing short of a more beautiful version of Cate Blanchett in Blue Jasmine. Ironically enough, Marty, she looks like a cross between Sharon Stone and Michelle Pfeiffer. Totally your leading ingénue type. Anyhow, after my father successfully laundered money in my name, hiding what was left of our assets from the government in a Wells Fargo bank account, I arrived home to discover multiple phone calls from creditors and attorneys threatening to sue me. He'd left me in nearly $100,000 worth of debt. He left and never told me.

After all of that liquidated money was gone from the Wells Fargo bank account, things got pretty bad. My younger sister ran away at seventeen. My older sister struggled to finish school in Texas. I couch surfed for two years, sometimes dressing out of my car and stealing pieces of salami out of my boyfriends' refrigerators in the middle of the night, because I was so hungry and so ashamed that I couldn't feed myself. Tips at the restaurant weren't cutting it. It's a pretty confusing experience to go from flying private with Dad to an evening where he's begging you for a piece of your paycheck so he can buy food for dinner.

But, here's the real kicker --

I believed him.

I believed everything my father told me. I believed it was the government's fault he was going to prison and leaving his little princess, I believed it was your fault, Jordan Belfort. I believed that by taking out all those credit cards in my name, my father was attempting to save me. I believed him when he got out, and when he told me everything would be OK. I believed him until he tried to do the same thing all over again -- until I was at risk of being arrested myself (and I'm saving that story for the memoir).

So here's the deal. You people are dangerous. Your film is a reckless attempt at continuing to pretend that these sorts of schemes are entertaining, even as the country is reeling from yet another round of Wall Street scandals. We want to get lost in what? These phony financiers' fun sexcapades and coke binges? Come on, we know the truth. This kind of behavior brought America to its knees.

And yet you're glorifying it -- you who call yourselves liberals. You were honored for career excellence and for your cultural influence by The Kennedy Center, Marty. You drive a Honda hybrid, Leo. Did you think about the cultural message you'd be sending when you decided to make this film? You have successfully aligned yourself with an accomplished criminal, a guy who still hasn't made full restitution to his victims, exacerbating our national obsession with wealth and status and glorifying greed and psychopathic behavior. And don't even get me started on the incomprehensible way in which your film degrades women, the misogynistic, ass-backwards message you endorse to younger generations of men.

But hey, listen boys, I get it. I was conned too. By. My. Own. Dad! I drove a white Range Rover in high school, snorted half of Colombia, and got any guy I ever wanted because my father would take them flying in his King Air.

And then I unraveled the truth. The truth about my father and his behavior: that behind all of it was really just insidious soul-sucking shame masked by addiction, which we love to call ambition, which is really just greed. Greed and the desire for fame (exactly what you've successfully given self-appointed motivational speaker/financial guru Jordan Belfort, whose business opportunities will surely multiply thanks to this film).

For me, it's become goddamn unbearable.

But I refuse to give up.

Belfort's victims, my father's victims, don't have a chance at keeping up with the Joneses. They're left destitute, having lost their life savings at the age of 80. They can't pay their medical bills or help send their children off to college because of characters like the ones glorified in Terry Winters' screenplay.

Let me ask you guys something. What makes you think this man deserves to be the protagonist in this story? Do you think his victims are going to want to watch it? Did we forget about the damage that accompanied all those rollicking good times? Or are we sweeping it under the carpet for the sale of a movie ticket? And not just on any day, but on Christmas morning??

So here's what I'm going to do first. I'm going to hand you my shame. Right now, in this very moment. The shame that I've been carrying for far too long as a result of being collateral damage. Because each of you should feel ashamed. And then I'm going to go pre-order my tickets to August: Osage County in support of Julia and Meryl -- because at least, as screwed up as that family is, they talk about the truth.

I urge each and every human being in America NOT to support this film, because if you do, you're simply continuing to feed the Wolves of Wall Street.

Yours truly,

Christina McDowell

PS. Quick update on Dad: He is now doing business with the Albanian government and, rumor has it, married to a 30-year-old Albanian translator -- they always, always land on their feet.

 


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Sat, 12/28/2013 - 11:26 | Link to Comment corporatewhore
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So what's your point?

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 11:51 | Link to Comment mofreedom
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She wants you know she's bitter.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:11 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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What's the point?  As they say in Hollywood -

  There is no such thing as bad publicity.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:55 | Link to Comment mjcOH1
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"These phony financiers' fun sexcapades and coke binges? Come on, we know the truth. This kind of behavior brought America to its knees.  And yet you're glorifying it -- you who call yourselves liberals."

Well...duh?

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 13:00 | Link to Comment Skateboarder
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I don't particularly like the author's rhetoric or her captain obvious info, but this is of the many cries that go unnoticed while other ex richbitchez raise 60K for being poor and smoking stoges all day long.

Bananapalooza.

Oh, and where's Corzine again?

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 13:27 | Link to Comment Bananamerican
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"behind all of it was really just insidious soul-sucking shame masked by addiction, which we love to call ambition, which is really just greed" Isn't that one of the 7 deadly sins?
Sat, 12/28/2013 - 14:18 | Link to Comment Scarlett
Sat, 12/28/2013 - 15:01 | Link to Comment mjcOH1
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""behind all of it was really just insidious soul-sucking shame masked by addiction, which we love to call ambition, which is really just greed" Isn't that one of the 7 deadly sins?"

 

What is dis 'sin' dat you speak of?   And which candidate will gimme' the biggest share of dat guy's cut in exchange for ma' vote, yo?

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 16:25 | Link to Comment FEDbuster
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Won't see the movie till I can rent it for a $1., but would like to see these types of bankster bio pics end with a burned investor blowing them away with a 12 gauge.  Still waiting for the Drudge headline proclaiming the Corzine story ends this way.  

BTW, there is a great movie on Netflix called "Assault on Wall Street" which I really enjoyed.

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 01:14 | Link to Comment Not_Sure
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"Won't see the movie till I can rent it for a $1"

 

Why rent it for a $1 when you can watch it free on the internet? That's how I'm doing my part for Hollyweird. Watching all those block-buster movies for free.

 

Ain't technology great!

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 06:43 | Link to Comment darkpool2
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And about 50 cents in asiatown .....just about covers their cost of materials and a modest wage.....and nothing for Hollywood.....seems fair and equitable......right?

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 08:30 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Free Jon Corzine!!!!

 

Oh wait.....he is.

 

Perhaps due to the letter of support from his loving family...but especially his daughter.

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2012/03/jon-corzine-family-responds

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 08:48 | Link to Comment nmewn
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So, lets cut to the chase here, Leo will make millions portraying a bad guy who abused the system while at the very same time (in Leo's real life) he advocates for the abuse of the system through all manner of government subsidies which distort that very same system.

Why do I feel like Leo won't be donating his earnings to .gov or charity?

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 09:00 | Link to Comment Race Car Driver
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Fuck Leo. Playing a retard looked natural for him.

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 09:08 | Link to Comment nmewn
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ROTFL!

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 22:18 | Link to Comment FEDbuster
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"Never go full retard"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wVagQ_LVd4

I am sure Leo could have played "Simple Jack".

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 10:13 | Link to Comment Agstacker
Sat, 12/28/2013 - 16:53 | Link to Comment foodisgood
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The very idea folks get conned into investing in something they know nothing about and never will be a part of - we get what we deserve.

The day folks offer solutions like investing in a 401k for their local farmers markets is the day guys like her scumbag of a father will truly get what he deserves.

We only have ourselves to blame. 

Grow up and stop being naggers cause articles like this only serve the problem of being bitter nagger slaves to the idea actors contribute anything beyond what she is slaving toward.

NO USURY ON CURRENCY

NO GOVERNMENT SHALL EVER BORROW

IAMSLATTERY

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 01:32 | Link to Comment Pee Wee
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Right, because every US citizen got what they "deserved" with the circus bailouts of TARP, HAMP, QE^x, ZIRP, and absolutely zero prosecutions, or even a single beat that the rule of law still has a pulse in the USA.

Nice try defending Fascism, injustice and systemic corruption.

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 08:44 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Where did all that money go again......cause I'm pretty sure I didn't see any of that?

 

When hundreds of billions of dollars just goes.......POOF!

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 01:48 | Link to Comment Buck Johnson
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Probably mad that she didn't get to get in the movie.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 14:51 | Link to Comment NOTW777
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exactly - hollywood one of the biggest corrupters of the world; satan's main tool

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 15:37 | Link to Comment U4 eee aaa
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That and Wall Street. A match made in hell

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 16:54 | Link to Comment aVileRat
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She has a few valid points.

A bit of backstory: Marty & Leo set out to make a movie that in their view could recreate the magic of Oliver Stone's Wall St. However what made Gordon Gekko such an anti-hero was his warped ethics and personal sacrifice to get to the top. This was largely by having primary sources such as Ivan B. and Henry K. to dial in on. Leo assumed that after J.Edgar was snubbed, if he could build a better Wall St. the Screen Actor Guild (SAG) would give him a lifetime Oscar and push his Star into the royalty plus negotiation bracket (aka. the "legendary actor bracket"). This is every male leads golden ticket before the magical "5-oh" when hollywood when male leads hit the dustbin. IF you miss your Oscar window, be prepared to live hand to mouth for the rest of your days in ever marginal work fee roles. Every guy from Brad to George knows the story of Mickey Rooney.

The Wolf was never intended to be expanded on, or even used as a primary source into how a pump & dump shop differs from a mainstreet fund. From the getgo (or Gekko) the whole setup pitch was for Leo to have an Oscar bid to be masked in a few scenes of glamour greed. It didn't work.

There are two reasons why the bar was set so low: First, because they could, nobody would call Marty on a bad film on a ballsy Xmas release, second ? Leo and Marty are both dirty.

Like the jock who tries to cheat his way through his final project in University, you as a gate keeper just stop giving a shit and the cheater knows he just has to go through the motions, but will not get a 3.8/4. Doing a detailed film was just not worth their time, or SAG actually nodding it. Both know whats up.

When I say dirty, I do not mean an STD but both are on a short but critical list of industry players who have taken or are involved with Mob money laundering schemes. When the industry was starting up, cheap seed money was needed and like Vegas plenty of cellulite was NYC/Chicago financed. However at some point in the 1980's guys like Spielberg made it a point of order that the industry would need to start to separate itself from the grease. Some guys and girls still are heavily banked, but it is an unwritten rule that those will never be recognized as equals amid peers. George C. made this crystal clear to the media press before Leo backers could start their media hype machine in November 2013.

Think of it like Juicing for professional sluggers, but for Hollywood male screen leads/directors. 

In Marty's case, there were a series of movies that were always suspected of being mob shoots, yet were never investigated. Guys like Robert D.N. have gone on record stating this. When Marty recognized his name was on the list, he just dove full into mob culture and came out with some excellent gems of cinematography by generating a few solid "clean" cans. His time in purgatory paid off and he was awarded his Oscar that allows a director to become "bankable" and move to the higher SAG bracket and producer fees. Martin however is capped on his number of Oscars. He knows this, which is why his film volume has significantly slowed down both in post-production and screenplay research. Marty is mostly clean now, and has spent his last few years as a psudo-rehab for black list stars. This would be a good movie for someday in 40 years.

Leo is one of a list of child stars with large mob debts. He and his crew have been bailed out so often, many directors pass him over directly for roles due to his association with gambling & Burbank prostitution rings. In the last 10 years Leo has appeared on over 4 FBI sting ops, which should tell you what sort of Liability insurance his contract comes with. Like Tobey and Johnny, the media will give him a pass, but the SAG/Oscar group is the ultimate University Professor controls who gets to sit on the peer board and who gets to the ‘legacy’ ledger. They are the guys who mint the diplomas for sealing a Actors legitimacy, and the only voice that matters. This is why Leo can buy every puff in Rolling Stone, and can squelch any story of infidelity but is largely locked out of the main-crew. Leo is not getting an Oscar until he either goes clean or grows up. Leo feels that he can eventually bend the SAG without actually changing or ceasing being on the take. This is one of the reasons he has been musing retirement since the SAG board rotation. The Greenwashing of his charities did nothing to buy him political capital. His mob links also were one reason why Greenpeace significantly distanced themselves from Leo following his September 2012 adverts.

Little known fact is that Leo pays Marty to be his director. It has been this way since Titanic since no producer will let the House take the liability of his contract. As long as Leo's side car of bringing new marks to games and his debts remain his brand will be a limbo good. And movies about Leo in puff roles will keep rolling out, until they don't. In Hollywood it is never about who you are with, but who is NOT willing to be seen with you.  

What's my point in writing this ?

Well, first to give a bit of context. Fight club is half about knowledge sharing when its worth a laugh. Even the most glossy cartoon needs a few call out boxes to provide context to the scenes. 

Second, alt. media is correct to repost her editorial nailing Leo & Marty for using a very brutal story as an Oscar Vehicle. Tyler was bang on in picking this up to show people what his Movie was, and what it was trying to Coat tail on: This was a minor Madoff tale before 2001, Ivan B. and RJR. This would and should appear equally tasteless to mainstream America as if we had seen 80 min. of Bernard M. dancing with Hillary & Billy on Christmas day in 2013 with only a 15. min. glossy ending.

The third ? Black money is a temptation in every industry be it film, oil or gold mines. If you are a boss, or in line to be an executive you can expect black or grey money will eventually try to reach your doorway when your star lights up. Eventually however, it does catch up to you. So don’t be Leo.

Back to the Egg Nog.

 

 

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 23:31 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Thanks for the inside dope.  I remember when Francis did The Godfather that the mob and Sinatra were not happy.  They got parts and probably dough and then were totally onboard.  The Turk and Luca Brazzi were real mob guys.   Francis and his Zoetrope gang, mainly Milius, I respected. Lucas not so much.

The other 70-80s directors like Cimino's Deer Hunter and Brian DePalma (Scarface) were good plus maybe later Ridley Scott.  The rest you can have and I think Marty is overrated. 

Hollywood is so scummy with mob ties, Operation Mockingbird, and total corruption.

The inside dope on Jordan Belfort and the boiler room he ran.  These people are total scum.  They all got light sentences and should have gotten 20+ years. They must have all been connected.

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 06:23 | Link to Comment Treason Season
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If Scorsese is so clean why hasn't he ever done a movie on the Jew mafia, the Mishpucka? Because he runs interference for them by concealing them behind the easlily targeted Italians. Ditto for Coppola. Let's see them make a movie about Lansky. Bloomfield, Rabbi Goldman. Right, don't hold your breath. Scorsese and Coppola, Tarantino, ad nauseum in Hollyweird only do chumps, not the real bad guys. 

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 01:23 | Link to Comment Crawdaddy
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Micky Rooney lives on, despite their intransigence.

Bitch stole my salami.

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 06:01 | Link to Comment bentaxle
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...and made your cock smell of garlic...

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 09:55 | Link to Comment tip e. canoe
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bingo...thanks for taking the time and having the balls to put it out there.  once you start connecting the dots between this and the subject behind which this site was founded to expose, the picture becomes much more clearly focused.  the foundation in which this entire fucking system and all of its tentacles -- economic, political, social (media) -- is being kept alive is dirty fuckin money.  

exhibit A :  Drug money and the global drug traffic are actually not just valuable elements, but, as donors of liquidity which is so scarce, they are a vital and indispensable segment of the whole monetary system.

Drug Trafficking and the Financial Crisis by Victor Ivanov

it's all about the vig baby.

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 13:07 | Link to Comment fiatmasochist
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Nice contribution to the discussion...Question...if Monsanto GMO'd the coca and poppy plants to terminator status, would that cause a global financial crisis?

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 13:34 | Link to Comment tip e. canoe
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rumor is that there are already genetically modified cannabis strains ready for "legalization".

know your grower, boys & girls.

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 05:34 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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It sounds like a must see movie promotion for all who want to get rich fast by scamming.

that's evil... because every marketeer will tell you that everybody is motivated by greed, sex and power.
the story was a showoff. a marketing story. and a bad one at best.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:02 | Link to Comment corporatewhore
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i didn't know there were so many bleeding hearts in fight club

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:09 | Link to Comment mofreedom
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I would say it's jealousy masked as righteous indignation.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:41 | Link to Comment BigJim
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 But hey, listen boys, I get it. I was conned too. By. My. Own. Dad! I drove a white Range Rover in high school, snorted half of Colombia, and got any guy I ever wanted because my father would take them flying in his King Air.

LOL, I just googled her image.  Her getting any guy she 'ever wanted' had nothing to do with daddy, but the fact that she is very, very physically attractive. Daddy could have been a syphilitic janitor and Christina would still have got laid ten ways to Sunday.

It says something about her lack of self-confidence, though, that she thinks her success in this department was because of her dad.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 14:14 | Link to Comment Pure Evil
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She's just upset cause she fell all the way to the bottom of the dung pile. While her father, the crook that he is, didn't bother to pull her out of the pig stye as he moved on.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 19:21 | Link to Comment scraping_by
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Assuming she's the same kind of sociopath. Creeps do have children with morality.

Though note Daddy Dearest defrauded her, too. Might be payback.

Still, odds are she learned the lessons most of us learn, and not the gangsta dream.

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 08:48 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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i didn't know there were so many bleeding hearts in fight club

 

The cult does not approve of weakness.....in any form.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 21:48 | Link to Comment Things that go bump
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Most young women can have any guy they want, if what we're talking about is just slinging a leg over em. They don't even have to buy them dinner.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:09 | Link to Comment Mr. Poon
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The point is, when you show the criminals and the lifestyle they enjoy, but not the crime and the victims, you're glorifying the criminals and justifying their behavior.  It makes it look as if it's a victimless crime - a bunch of guys get miraculously rich overnight and nobody seems to be impacted by it, what's the harm?  And the more people think it's a victimless crime, the more likely other people will be to imitate it, and the more real-world victims, like the author, there will be.

It's something that "Boiler Room" got right:  it showed both sides, or at least it tried to.  And that's why "Boiler Room" is a classic and this is another vacuous, over-the-top, ridiculously expensive bit of fluff starring Leonardo di Caprio (does he make any other kind of movie?)

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:19 | Link to Comment mofreedom
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The protagonist is also the victim of himself, or is that to deep for those who saw the movie.

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 08:56 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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The protagonist is also the victim of himself

 

Blankfein......is that you?

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:38 | Link to Comment BigJim
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I think you make a good point there.

But, having seen the film, I had absolutely no desire to go into the business; they all seemed pretty miserable to me, riches notwithstanding.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 13:49 | Link to Comment Ignatius
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"...does he make any other kind of movie?"

Gangs of New York, the exception that proves the rule.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 15:40 | Link to Comment U4 eee aaa
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Actually, Blood Diamond was a pretty good movie from a message standpoint

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 18:08 | Link to Comment Imminent Crucible
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TIA--This Is America!

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 14:53 | Link to Comment NOTW777
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spot on - for once let them show the consequences

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 15:44 | Link to Comment U4 eee aaa
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This is Hollywood man. The same place that provides all the sex and none of those consequences either

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 18:20 | Link to Comment Renfield
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Mr Poon, agree 100%. Like most sell-out vanity shit, from every review I've read and heard (both professional and friends), neither the book nor the movie have much educational value to them. So what makes it worth our while watching them pat themselves on the back for 3 hours?

Why support either Hollywood or Scorsese or whoever the author is, with my time or money, or talking them up? This just gives Hollywood pipsqueaks like di Caprio an opportunity to justify their pathetic corporate-owned lives. ("Scorsese brings us another thought-provoking film on a controversial topic that most people don't know enough about..." - fuck that coverage.)

For the same reason, I didn't buy OJ Simpson's "If I Did It" either. Nor will I see it when they make it into a film starring Will Smith as OJ. We may be nothing but peasants (or "fans") to them but enough is enough.

I wanna see a film about SNOWDEN, man. Only starring someone sexier than di Caprio, please.

(PS: Where's Freddie? He's usually the one telling us all to avoid Hollywood propaganda - this thread seems kinda bare without him!)

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 10:02 | Link to Comment tip e. canoe
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I wanna see a film about SNOWDEN, man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEizHF-NRYs

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 20:35 | Link to Comment malek
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Good start.

Now put yourself in the shoes of an aspiring director:
What kind of film do you want to make? The one that is ethically correct or the one that pulls the biggest crowd into theaters?

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 00:24 | Link to Comment Freddie
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+100

Boiler Room did get it right. Boiler Room showed these guys like the Vin Diesel character were on a dead end to no where.

Jordan Belfort should have gotten 30 years in prison along with his cronies.

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 03:24 | Link to Comment Curiously_Crazy
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Basketball diaries. Probably one of the most realistic portrayals of heroin addiction around (Trainspotting made light of it a bit to much - still a good film though).

Apart from that +1

Cheers

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:20 | Link to Comment el Gallinazo
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Perhaps that the glorification of psychopathy by the shill, insider, MSM is a prerequisite to the final implosion of the USSA and the rise of China to global dominance.  Well, maybe I added a little to her point :-)

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 11:18 | Link to Comment Urban Roman
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I had not heard of this movie and had to look it up.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0993846/

Whoever said it was sour grapes, and she's pissed at not getting a part in the movie, sounds about right. She is, after all, a C-lister with a resume...

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1876480/

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:37 | Link to Comment corporatewhore
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i realize i should have put a "sarc" after my comment.  my apologies as the internet doesnt catch sarcastic inflection.  sorry to have offended all the much more intelligent and intuitive genius members

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 14:03 | Link to Comment thatthingcanfly
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Liar.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 14:18 | Link to Comment corporatewhore
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is it medication time yet?

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 14:53 | Link to Comment thatthingcanfly
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Ad hominem.

Care to respond to the central argument: that you were lying when you said you meant to include a sarc tag?

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 18:10 | Link to Comment Imminent Crucible
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Look, he told you he was a corporate whore.  Why don't you believe him? I certainly do.

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 03:36 | Link to Comment Curiously_Crazy
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Heh good one.

The whole sarc tag thing still escapes me. If people need to add it then it's either not that funny to begin with or it flies over a few peoples heads (and if that's the case who gives a shit).

Cheers

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 13:40 | Link to Comment kchrisc
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Her point is that they are repackaging our enslavement as entertainment and then broadcasting it to us. "Cops" for the lower classes and movies like this for us.

"I have a two guillotine garage."

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 12:03 | Link to Comment Urban Roman
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But you'll never get the environmental permits unless you start on the paperwork now.

You know, drainage, the biomaterials, hazard mitigation. That and plain old logistics...

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 13:58 | Link to Comment Larry Dallas
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Can't help how the timing of this is so shortly after the relaxation of Reg D 506(c).

The pig farmer in Kansas will be sending money to a "hedge fund" in NYC with a PO Box...

It never ends.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 14:59 | Link to Comment caShOnlY
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So what's your point?

America loves winners!! Buffet, Gates, Dimon, Welch, Blankfein, Geithner, Paulson, we love them all!!   We will love them right up until the 401(k)s, Roths, 403(b)s, etc... are all cleaned out!  We will love them until it hurts. And even after finding out what scum these people are, we will still love them.  After all, we are all AmeriCONS now!!

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 19:14 | Link to Comment scraping_by
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Who's 'we', white man?

If 'we' is the MSM, especially the New York/Washington Axis, yeah, I guess 'we' are stupid and keep getting fooled.

Outside a few corporations, however, not so much.

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 06:29 | Link to Comment AngelEyes00
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http://www.theautomaticearth.com/ben-bernanke-balance-sheet/   Tyler Durden, the above link is from Nicole Foss’ website, the Automatic Earth.  This is an article right up ZH’s alley about QE.  Here are a few exerpts:   If a financial system is as dependent on public money injections as today’s one, there is a very real risk that this market has in fact stopped functioning, and that what we’re watching are zombified movements that can continue only thanks to those money injections, which are in their manipulative character, frankly, more reminiscent of what one would expect to see in communist nations than anything else.  

That this market has stopped functioning is an option, however, that nobody seems to care about one bit. Everyone seems more than happy to take the money, run, and persist in labeling the system “capitalism”. Which I would think is a curious label for a system that depends to such an extent on government hand-outs (I know the central bank is supposed to be independent of the government, but hey …).

As the financial world stacks illusion upon illusion (that it is part of a capitalist system, that government hand-outs to banks benefit the people, that stock market records reflect anything at all about the real economy anymore), it sinks ever deeper into a warped fantasy world, and it doesn’t mind, because it knows it need not worry, it can take that money and run as long as the illusions last, and in the end it’s the people outside of the financial world that will forcibly coerced into paying the bills.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 11:25 | Link to Comment ZeroPower
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Last I checked, movies are a form of entertainment. This movie is based off the (much better, btw) book. If you don't like the idea, don't partake in reading/seeing, it. I couldn't give a rats ass about Jap anime porn, but have no problemw ith people who do.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:01 | Link to Comment thatthingcanfly
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Tyler, ever thought about imposing an IQ test before allowing someone to post a comment? I'm really getting sick of sorting through garbage written by incompetents who completely miss the point and want to advertise to the world how completely they missed it.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:19 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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CAPTCHA

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:27 | Link to Comment Bay of Pigs
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Hard to believe he could be a member here since 2009 and be so fucking stupid.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 13:56 | Link to Comment thatthingcanfly
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I suggest bringing back the captcha, and including a little elementary calculus therein. Eg. Differentiate the following expression: 2x2+2x+1. Not too hard; but should weed out most of the Zeropowers and Corporatewhores.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 14:22 | Link to Comment firstdivision
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df(x)/dy

 

Solved it. Now can I post a comment about how uber awesome BitCoin is and it's more likely money over tulips or Enron shares and that it will never be worthless?

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 15:03 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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+1.  Nice one.  How many will "get it", do you think?  ;-)

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 09:25 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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CAPTCHA

 

If we go back to that.....the comments are gonna be damn near zero.

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 01:35 | Link to Comment q99x2
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Bitcoin may become outdated sometime in the future and whether that will render it worthless or not nobody knows.

But this is as close to the second coming humans have experienced in over 2,000 years.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:29 | Link to Comment CrazyCooter
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Actually, there used to be a captcha to post that required more than basic arithmetic skills. Not sure why they took it out, except that it excluded too many users of the site.

Like many sites, ZH makes its money on ads or sponsors. Not sure how they are bearing the flag for the 1%, so I am going with banner ads or a rich, brilliant finance professional with deep pockets and more animus than an army of Icahn-ators.

I conclude they need banner ads and readership, so out with the advanced captcha and in with posts by any idiot (such as myself).

Regards,

Cooter

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 14:08 | Link to Comment kaiserhoff
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Sounds about right, Cooter.

Remember how that damned captcha could never handle negative numbers?

Or maybe that was just me;)

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 08:25 | Link to Comment GCT
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LOL Kaiser  and I thought it was only me and those damned negative numbers back in the day! 

So it was not just you!

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 15:45 | Link to Comment U4 eee aaa
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All they need is a button to block posters

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:02 | Link to Comment mofreedom
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And last I checked coffee is made to be HOT!

In america, it's always somebody else's fault.

 

 

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:03 | Link to Comment dryam
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Tard

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:41 | Link to Comment Mr. Poon
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If you don't like it, don't partake in it?  Well, that's rather the point - a certain number of people thought they were participating in an open market, when in reality they were unwittingly participating in a coming-soon-to-a-theater-near-you criminal enterprise.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 11:32 | Link to Comment doomandbloom
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Greed is gold!

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 09:10 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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You're blaming your behavior on an element of the periodic table?

 

I believe the phrase your looking for is "greed is good".

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 11:33 | Link to Comment squid427
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I got home from work last night and Stan Weinstein was at my doorstep! Just what I wanted for christmas :>)

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 11:34 | Link to Comment GrinandBearit
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I saw it last night.  Not a bad movie, some funny parts, but a 3 hours running time is way too long.  Could have cut 30 minutes easily.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:45 | Link to Comment BigJim
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I think Scorcese and his lifetime editor partner have lost touch with how to make a great movie. His symbolism these days is so heavy-handed it's laughable.

Remember the telephone cord strangling Di Caprio's character? Or the rat at the end of The Departed? Gimme a fucking break.

Raging Bull? Genius. Goodfellas? Genius. Since then? Not so much.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 14:53 | Link to Comment NOTW777
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99% of movies are garbage; no talent, no creativity, no art, no redeeming value and yet, making people dumber and coarser

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 17:24 | Link to Comment bozzy
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If you simply "forgot" the world outside Hollwood, then please accept my apologies for what comes next.

Why not go out, buy a world map, study well, then see if you can think of any other countries which produce great films.

The incessant patronising drivel focussing on the USA as the sole entity of any supposed importance reflects America's behaviour throughout the "American Century", and provides deep insight into why so many want to de-americanise, and so many of the the more extreme want to kill Americans.

Get America out of our faces.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 15:21 | Link to Comment Gargoyle
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Agreed. But you forgot Mean Streets and The.Best.Music.Video ever made, The Last Waltz.

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 00:32 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Mean Streets was good but mainly Harvey Keitel.  DeNiro was a goof ball F up in the movie.   I stopped watching TV and Hollywood's crap years ago.  Marty lost the plot years ago. 

Did anyone see Scorsese's movie or documentary about George Harrison?

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 11:34 | Link to Comment max2205
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Greed is good and crime pays

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 19:08 | Link to Comment scraping_by
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Until it doesn't and then it isn't.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 11:35 | Link to Comment ArkansasAngie
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I'll boycott with you.

I don't watch this kinda films.  I like my protagonists the good guys.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:36 | Link to Comment Trucker Glock
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Have you seen "Assault on Wall Street"?  Not Class A film, but I didn't regret watching it.  It's on nutflix.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 13:59 | Link to Comment thatthingcanfly
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Thought I was the only Arkansan here.

I'm in Izard County, near the White River. You?

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 01:43 | Link to Comment Crawdaddy
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The last good movie was Outlaw Josie Wales.

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 09:18 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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The Missouri Boat Ride is a tired and true market tactic.....I learned it from watching a movie.

 

That crap actually works....go figure.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 11:33 | Link to Comment rtalcott
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They have not been conned...their goal is to take your money...

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 11:37 | Link to Comment Capitalist
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It's a entertaining movie, not a documentary. Harden up Christina.

Now excuse me while I go pump some penny stocks to widows and orphans.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 11:37 | Link to Comment TrulyStupid
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Hollywood is part of the MSM/MI complex too. It needs to be fed and Americans love their Billy the Kids, Godfathers and Howard Roarks.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 11:40 | Link to Comment Kina
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The film makers know Americans dream of being the bastard wallstreet rapist types. Raping other people's daughters, playing around with other peoples wives, getting others bring up their children unknowingly, shitting in fathers mouths as the rape everything they  got, for a rap on the knukles, a good laugh, some coke...then the game continues....friends commit suiced, kill their families........Yeh lets glorify the type of people that make these things happen. We all want to be the coke snorting laughing high flying wallstreet player with a low IQ but good connections....and don't give a fuck.... then go watch movies that glofify us and make us look cool and dangerous...

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:25 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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CATCH ME IF YOU CAN. 

 

 

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 13:09 | Link to Comment Clampit
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If there was an ounce of sex or intrigue left in the position it wouldn't take DiCaprio to sell the part.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 11:43 | Link to Comment Dewey Cheatum Howe
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I guess in a country of 300+ million the statistical odds says that this sort of stuff is bound to happen or people just getting dumber by the minute.

File this one under nothing surprises a cynic. Bread and circus government agencies are useful for entertainment purposes. Real reality is more entertaining than any hollywood movie or faux reality show.

http://deadspin.com/what-did-we-get-stuck-in-our-rectums-this-year-14867...

As in past years, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission has created a searchable database of emergency room visits around the country. And as in past years, we have trolled the data for the finest examples of insertions showcasing extraordinarily bad luck and/or ingenuity.

Sorted by orifice, working south:

Ear:
SEED
PAINTBRUSH
"SOME BALLS"
SLAG
MAKEUP BRUSH
PATIENT TOLD PARENTS THAT THE CATS STUCK SOMETHING IN HER EAR
GASOLINE
BUTTERFLY
HERSHEY KISS
"CLASSMATE PUT A ROCK IN EAR, HAS PIECE OF PAPER IN OTHER EAR"

Nose:
EAR PLUG
CRAYON
PLASTIC EYEBALL
HEART-SHAPED GEM
DIME
PENNY
NICKEL
AA BATTERIES
SPONGE
SMALL DECORATIVE ROCK
2 ERASERS
MULCH
"PLACED A BEAD IN HER NOSTRIL, PATIENT HAS NO COMPLAINTS"

Throat:
DETERGENT PACK
WHISTLE
ENGAGEMENT RING
"SWALLOWED A QUARTER WHILE TAKING A SHOWER"
"DOING MAGIC TRICK AT SCHOOL & SWALLOWED A QUARTER"
SCHOOL LOGO MAGNET
CONFETTI
SCREW
A TACO
BALL OF STRING
A BEE

Penis:
PENIS PLUG
20-30 MAGNETIC BUCKY BALLS
DICE
FISHTANK AIRHOSE
ANTENNA
SEWING NEEDLE
BB PELLET
"WIDE WOODEN DOWEL"
NAIL
PLASTIC PIPE, DENTAL FLOSS WITH BEADS
WIRE
MARBLE
EMBEDDED DOMINO IN PENIS "TO PLEASE THE LADIES"

Vagina:
GLUE STICK
BARRETTE
SMALL FINGER VIBRATOR–"IT'S STILL ON"
TOILET PAPER
"LONG BLACK OBJECT"
PENIS RING
RIVET
"WORMS COMING OUT OF PEE-PEE"—PINWORMS
SPOON
PENCIL ERASER
PLASTIC BOTTLE OF CREAM (LID STILL ON)
NAPKINS IN VAGINA TO HAVE SEX DURING PERIOD

Rectum:
PENCIL
PENCILS
SHAMPOO BOTTLE
COLOGNE BOTTLE
LOTION JAR
SODA CAN
SODA BOTTLE
FLASHLIGHT
BATHTUB STOPPER
SHOT GLASS (BROKEN)
SOCK
ICE PACK
END OF CURTAIN ROD
"PATIENT STATES HE WAS EXPERIENCING AN ITCHY RECTUM AND INSERTED A REMOTE CONTROL TO SCRATCH"
VIBRATOR
VIBRATOR BATTERY
COVER OF VIBRATOR
TIP OF VIBRATOR
"BIG PURPLE DILDO"
"PATIENT STATES HE GOT DRUNK AND PASSED OUT AT GIRLFRIENDS HOUSE, AWOKE WITH SPOONS AND DILDOS IN RECTUM"
LIGHTER
TOY SUBMARINE
TOOTHBRUSH HOLDER
2 HALVES OF BAR OF SOAP
POOL BALL
LIT BOTTLE ROCKET; "IT DIDN'T GO WELL"

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 11:51 | Link to Comment blindman
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fascinating.
one question: i know i could google it but
i really don't want the search on my permanent
record; what is a penis plug?
.
one comment (in the form of multiple questions): a marble? really? a marble?
how is that even possible? and pool ball? is that a back yard pool ball?

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 14:34 | Link to Comment AlaricBalth
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Amazing how many people's behavior has been altered by thinking the NSA, via Google, is keeping a permanent record of our searches.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 15:06 | Link to Comment blindman
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you could almost consider the surveillance state
as a sort of public service for the lonely who
have no one to pay attention up to and including
their childish outburst.
as in, they work for me! and perhaps
enjoy and appreciate my every self destructive
thought process as much as i do. they will likely
come around to taxing the population for baby sitting their
every fart thought. it could be a new fiat currency.
nsa fart coin!
.
my one request would be that they give me a grade
in something approximating real time or fiat fart
nsa coin for playing.
anyway ...
best to you and your full head of hair!

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 15:54 | Link to Comment zerozulu
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hahaha. Consider, our destination is a state likr DPRK.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 11:53 | Link to Comment mofreedom
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What the hell is a penis plug?  Gotta tell me, I ain't lookin it up.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 13:25 | Link to Comment Ballin D
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I just googled it. Its exactly what it sounds like, except larger.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:18 | Link to Comment putaipan
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fuccilli jerry !

 

(good flick. morally ambivalent at best. good to see in crowded theatre to hear uneasy but genuine laughter. good old fashioned hard R tits and ass. what? no francis sawyer style comments ... ah marty's a jesuit)

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 01:18 | Link to Comment putaipan
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ok ok, so ispelled it wrong. what? no fussilli jerry? stick with a red candle then.

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 09:37 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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It was a million to one shot, doc.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 13:44 | Link to Comment kchrisc
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And which orifice was most the popular for Obamacare?!

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 09:39 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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You mean we get to choose?

 

I thought it was just up the ass.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 14:30 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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TMI, TMI!  Could not bear to read more than 1/3.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 14:51 | Link to Comment TNTARG
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Gee guys. I won't comment on this. However I must say I've peeked many times at the northern hemisphere, always chosen this far south to live. Most of us make love old fashion. Damn, it still feels good!

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 19:12 | Link to Comment Mongoose
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The scariest part about this list is the thought that at least some portion of the patients on this list are adults who probably thoght that sticking whatever it was up whatever orifice seemed like the right thing to do at the time.

Back to killin' snakes

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 01:51 | Link to Comment Crawdaddy
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I call bullshit on "EMBEDDED DOMINO IN PENIS TO PLEASE THE LADIES". It doesn't work. She went nello all night long. Took all our beers.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 11:42 | Link to Comment blindman
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wow

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 11:45 | Link to Comment q99x2
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I like to watch movies that my English bulldog watches.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:34 | Link to Comment IridiumRebel
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Yes, but can he ride a skateboard?

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 13:21 | Link to Comment Skateboarder
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No, but I can!

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 11:47 | Link to Comment mess nonster
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If you ask me, Christina has a good point. Of course, the Hollywood vampires drive the decline of America. Life imitates art and vice vwersa in a sick race to the bottom. American society is a psychopathic dream. Kudos to Christina for saying what needs to be said.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 14:36 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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Yup, and why was I not surprised when she said that these guys always land on their feet?

Being con-men and snake-oil salesmen is who they ARE.  All they've done, is swapped one product for another.  Lucky for them, America is more addicted to "success" than to "principles".  Alas, they and their kind know this dirty little secret also, whereas the public does not.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2530192/Christina-McDowell-lette...

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 11:50 | Link to Comment jballz
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I don't think her daddy's plane had anything to do with getting any guy she wanted

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=Christina+McDowell&safe=off&rlz=1C1CHNG_...

 

just sayin, that bitxh is smokin'.... and clearly not averse to cashing in on the moral depravity of our fair land.

 

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 14:54 | Link to Comment ronaldawg
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Right on ! That chick is smoking hot. and still is. Why couldn't she get a husband? Something just doesn't make sense.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:12 | Link to Comment JustObserving
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Jesus, you object to a movie since it glorifies greedy, evil people.  But then the USA is ruled by evil, greedy people who lie, cheat and spy on everyone to seek control and advantage.

All US judges and all of Congress know that infinite spying and surveillance on the US population is a violation of the fourth amendment and the constitution that they promised to uphold.  But they let this spying grow unchecked so now the US is a fascist, police state where everyone's privacy and freedom have been eliminated.

Every CEO of US technology companies not only went along with the NSA spying but actually worked with the NSA to enhance its power and control of every American.  We are all ruled by wolves and it is not only Wall Street, it has become the norm in the land of the free and the home of the brave.  At least, we get a sardonic laugh each time we hear the national anthem.  

Welcome to the real, corrupt world where Kennedy Center Honors, Nobel Peace Prizes or driving a Honda hybrid mean nothing.  You are just jousting with windmills while drones drop death from the skies.

 

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 14:58 | Link to Comment Kirk2NCC1701
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I'd like to see someone make The Wolf of Berlin.

It'd be about a blue-collar, decorated war hero in central Europe in the 1930s, who united and saved his impoverished country, by changing its self-image and purpose, and by changing its monetary and financial system, and how he turned it into THE industrial powerhouse of Europe within 5 years.  But they'd then end the movie as a "What if..." movie, before he goes off the rail.  That way, no "victims" are ever shown, and no wars or concentration camps.  And the moral of the story -- the "spin" -- would be how driven men can cross the line between brilliance and lunacy, between success and failure, by crossing the Line that must not be crossed.  Ever.

Would this kind of movie be made?  Hell, NO!  Would it be allowed to show?  Maybe, but probably not.  Legal injunctions would rev up like a whirlwind.  Ditto for lawsuits, if it were shown.

My point is, Hollywood can and does glorify anything it wants to -- especially for their kissing cousins on Wall St and Madison Ave -- and they have never let little things like the Truth get in their way (by showing the WHOLE picture).  Hollywood has always had an AGENDA, and their agenda and propaganda has never, ever led to anything remotely to... "End The Fed" or to "The corruption and destruction of America". 

Hollywood is as Hollywood does.

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 00:50 | Link to Comment Freddie
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Hollywood also is kissing cousins with Langley, VA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:14 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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Here is the problem I have with this kind of pulp Wall Street genre of movie.

It is one big misdirection. It propagandises the notion that the problem in finance is essentially boileroom operators and insider trading.

We all know that is patently not the case.

Moreover, we all know that no Hollywood producer willl ever do a movie that depicts the real problem unless it is cast as some kind of fringe low brow conspiracy theory, but don't hold your breath waiting for something resembling the truth.

Instead we are treated to more propaganda such as Too Big To Fail.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:24 | Link to Comment Greenskeeper_Carl
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Ya, how about they make a movie(this would obviously be make believe) where the fed is ended, and we actually had rule of law, so there is no lender of last resort to print trillions of dollars and hand to these people after their schemes collapse. At the end of the movie, we could see what happens to these people in a situation where they aren't in the protected class and don't own the govt. clearly, this would have to occur in a fantasy land far different from the ussa we know, as this would never happen to them with the best govt they can buy in power

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 13:47 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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Orwell's Animal Farm could only be published as a fairy tale originally.

TPTB/W frowned upon it.

Seems things never change.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 16:00 | Link to Comment U4 eee aaa
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They could make a movie like that but, as you say, this movie would probably be fantasy or science fiction because there is no way it could ever be a true story

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:32 | Link to Comment Omen IV
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i agree with you but.... showing the public how easy it is to trade phony paper for dollar bills is a good enema for the overwhelming body of people with shit for brains!

hitting them in the face might wake them up how pervasive fraud is and the basis for capitalism and WS - so the movie serves a purpose

 

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 13:48 | Link to Comment Hooter Shaker
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The Fed has been turning phony paper into dollars for years.  What is really needed is a modern Hollywood blockbuster outlining the biggest scam in the history of the world.  That might actually open some eyes but I'm not holding my breath...

Sun, 12/29/2013 - 01:54 | Link to Comment Colonel
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Like "The Creature from Jekyll Island" Starring Arnold Swarzenegger

 

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:34 | Link to Comment Fred Hayek
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Excellent points.
I watched Boiler Room just the other day and Scorcese's new film seems like it's just a more glamorous take on the same situation.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:53 | Link to Comment search
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Love WB7, so challenge him! What reality are you trying to portray, the Ego aggrandised formula is a hit with the masses, that makes it a reality short term. And given the Chaotic weather patterns of highly complex systems such as the world economy that is a valid wing flap. This is serious, has conequences. Means we're willing to be deluded retards longer than you can remain solvent.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 14:09 | Link to Comment ajax
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I agree with you whole-heartedly WB7: "It is one big misdirection. It propagandises the notion that the problem in finance is essentially boileroom operators and insider trading."

So what next? "Timberwolf:The Musical"? Or perhaps "The Girls of Abacus"?

- I for one am perfectly happy to see Christina McDowell's "open letter" and I'd like to thank the chap who provided the link:

http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2013/12/jordan_belfort_real.php?page=2

Martin Scorsese had a real chance here to film something truly SQUALID and he's blown it. Fuck him. OK 'Marty', how about that "Timberwolf:The Musical" for 2014...

 

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 16:00 | Link to Comment U4 eee aaa
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You write even better than you 'art' WB7. You should do that more often

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 19:21 | Link to Comment the grateful un...
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there is a school of film dedicated to these pursuits (formed in Russia by Eisenstein, and later by Brecht and Fassbinder) Hitchcock always had that edge (N x NW) he had to tell it between the lines to avoid the HUA, been that way pretty much ever since.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:02 | Link to Comment rsnoble
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I think we're about to find out just how ugly wallshit and the US gov't can get in order to maintain complete control.  They don't plan on going anywhere.  We're past voting.........we need industrial multi-head slotted guillotines and if there's any moral issues with who would be the one to drop the knife i'll glady volunteer cause the only sleep i'm gona lose is when I wake up laughing hysterically.  And don't think the motherfuckers don't know how we feel about them it's apparent in their actions such as the stupid asshole ( I have not confirmed it) that supposedly is presenting legislation to outlaw the death peanalty for treason.  That's fine asshole......we'll throw your stupid ass in the worst prison we have and we'll shave your legs and put you in a dress before we do so.

Who's to say fight fire with fire won't work?  Has prancing around like Ghandi worked anywhere the entire world is still ran by maniacs who kill us off by the millions for whatever reasons.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 13:27 | Link to Comment Winston Smith 2009
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"the stupid asshole ( I have not confirmed it) that supposedly is presenting legislation to outlaw the death peanalty for treason"

You might want to re-think that position. No government should have the right to execute any of its "citizens" since, far too often, governments don't actually represent those citizens and can use propaganda and secrecy (withholding of relevant facts) to fool the typical jury into a conviction.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 14:34 | Link to Comment Byte Me
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If you get Tennis elbow or any other RSI injuries on duty, I'm first in line to assist.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:03 | Link to Comment search
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Shit, when Zerohedge creates its own mandate we have to wonder who is still standing.

Sat, 12/28/2013 - 12:08 | Link to Comment starman
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Can't wait for the Sandy-hook movie. Sarc

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