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A Drone Operator Speaks: "This Is What You Are Not Told"
Submitted by Mike Krieger of Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
Over the weekend, Heather Linebaugh wrote a powerful Op-ed in The Guardian newspaper lamenting the lack of public understanding regarding the American drone program. Heather should know what she’s talking about, she served in the United Stated Air Force from 2009 until March 2012. She worked in intelligence as an imagery and geo-spatial analyst for the drone program during the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Here are some key excerpts from her article:
Whenever I read comments by politicians defending the Unmanned Aerial Vehicle Predator and Reaper program – aka drones – I wish I could ask them a few questions. I’d start with: “How many women and children have you seen incinerated by a Hellfire missile?” And: “How many men have you seen crawl across a field, trying to make it to the nearest compound for help while bleeding out from severed legs?” Or even more pointedly: “How many soldiers have you seen die on the side of a road in Afghanistan because our ever-so-accurate UAVs [unmanned aerial vehicles] were unable to detect an IED [improvised explosive device] that awaited their convoy?”
Few of these politicians who so brazenly proclaim the benefits of drones have a real clue of what actually goes on. I, on the other hand, have seen these awful sights first hand.
I knew the names of some of the young soldiers I saw bleed to death on the side of a road. I watched dozens of military-aged males die in Afghanistan, in empty fields, along riversides, and some right outside the compound where their family was waiting for them to return home from the mosque.
What the public needs to understand is that the video provided by a drone is not usually clear enough to detect someone carrying a weapon, even on a crystal-clear day with limited cloud and perfect light. This makes it incredibly difficult for the best analysts to identify if someone has weapons for sure. One example comes to mind: “The feed is so pixelated, what if it’s a shovel, and not a weapon?” I felt this confusion constantly, as did my fellow UAV analysts. We always wonder if we killed the right people, if we endangered the wrong people, if we destroyed an innocent civilian’s life all because of a bad image or angle.
Moreover, the many civilians being incinerated without a trial are not the only victims here. So are the actual drone operators themselves, many of whom end up committing suicide. Recall my article from December 2012: Meet Brandon Bryant: The Drone Operator Who Quit After Killing a Child. Of course, our so-called political “leaders” never get their hands dirty, other than to take a lobbyist bribe that is. Now more from Heather:
Recently, the Guardian ran a commentary by Britain’s secretary of state for defence, Philip Hammond. I wish I could talk to him about the two friends and colleagues I lost, within a year of leaving the military, to suicide. I am sure he has not been notified of that little bit of the secret UAV program, or he would surely take a closer look at the full scope of the program before defending it again.
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and , a surprise IRS audit of Ms Linebaugh in 3 ..... 2 ..... 1
Get the 'drone survival guide'
http://www.planbeconomics.com/2013/12/get-drone-survival-guide.html
The only logical reason for the US flying drones is to encourage a MENA group to conduct sophisticated and determined retaliatory action on the US mainland.
Drones exist to incit another 9/11 and to provide Al Qaida with a justification for their existence. There is no other reason for them.
The blowback from US drones will likely dwarf the blowback from the Saudi occupation as drones are a far more potent recruitment tool for the Jihadists.
The biggest weakness of US foreign policy is the inability to see things from the other side. US politicians are unable to empathise, that's why they make so many international blunders.
"Anyone who runs is a VC......anyone who stands still.....is a well disciplined VC"
I guess this is what you call.......progress......yes we can. We've got some hope.....but not much has changed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S06nIz4scvI
Does working as an intelligence analyst count as being a drone operator?
no just a drone.
A&M-Corpus Christi, Texas wins bid for drone testing
SAN ANTONIO — The Federal Aviation Administration signed off Monday on Texas A&M University-Corpus Christi's bid to create the first test site in the state for unmanned aerial systems — a project designed to help advance the U.S. drone industry and bring jobs and investment to South Texas.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/business/technology/article/A-M-Corpus-Chris...
In addition to Texas, other states hosting the research sites are Alaska, Nevada, New York, North Dakota and Virginia, providing diverse climates, geography and air traffic environments, FAA Administrator Michael Huerta said. The competition for a test site was robust, he said, as 25 entities in 24 states submitted proposals.
The approved test sites are the first step toward integrating drones into the nation's airspace, which Congress has mandated to take place by 2015. The sites will provide key proving grounds for drone operators to show that they can operate safely and will allow the FAA to gather data about privacy issues.
Please mark this date down - December 30, 2013, The day Skynet started.
More info from A&M - http://www.tamucc.edu/news/2013/12/123012%20FAA%20test%20site%20designat...
More info from FAA - http://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/uas/
Map of test site - http://lsuasc.tamucc.edu/lsuasc_test_site.php
Mission Control Center - http://lsuasc.tamucc.edu/mission_control_center.php
"I got 159 dead gooks killed....and 40 water buffalo too...them's all confirmed"
"Any women?......or children?"
"Yeah sometimes"
"How can you kill women...and children?"
"Easy...you just don't lead 'em so much....hahaha...ain't war hell....hahaha"
No, it's:
"I got me 157 dead gooks killed ... and 50 water buffalo too ... them are all certified"
Great lines need to be recounted accurately. ;)
Nope. I see two main reasons for the US drone warfare program. One is the the American sheeple are sickened (and rightly so) by the deaths and maiming of our troops. Second is drones are a terror weapon to show terrorists that we can terrorize them as well.
While I agree it is sickening and immoral for us to kill innocent people using drones or any other weapon system, the fact is, this is what happens in modern "total warfare".
How many innocent civilians were killed during WW II by Nazi V-1 "Buzz Bombs" or by our carpet bombing then or in Vietnam? Or even by artillery fire and land mines?
I'm not saying there's no difference in killing innocents with drones. It's just a lot more visible than dropping a dumb bomb or planting a land mine.
How about the cowardly bombing of Dresden or the fire bombing of Tokyo....
They shot at us......so we shot back.
You probably won't learn that in public education in America.
Agree with both of you. Warfare really is hell and our use of drones is making that all the more visible.
Which is an unfortunately "good" thing about them because it makes killing much more up close and personal like using swords.
How about the cowardly bombing of Dresden or the fire bombing of Tokyo....
Compared to the heroic killing of jooos, gypsies, and gays in concentration camps .... and the merciful rape of Nanking.
I'd call you an idiot but that would be disrespectful to those born mentally deficient. It would appear you are acquiring mental deficient ways and soon will be indiscernible from those who are genetically so. Carry on, it is working.
You know how the cowardly firebombing of Tokyo could have been avoided Ronny? Not atacking the US. Japan got what they deserved.
Japan desperately tried measure after measure to avoid war with the US; Roosevelt did everything in his power short of shitting in the Emperor's mouth to maneuver Japan into war.
Learn your history.
Ultimately, if you allow yourself to be manuevered into killing thousands, that is your fault. Except for defense. We all bear the cross of Iraq.
Anyone who imagines you can wage war with zero collateral damage does not understand the nature of war. It is not just winning engagements against military forces (grunts); you also have to break the will of the enemy. Of the two. the latter is far more important. This includes the leadership and the population that supports it.
A central truth is this: A war is not over until the LOSER decides he has lost To win a war, you have to kill people and break things to bring that realization to the loser. In short, the winner has to be cut lose to win. Otherwise, you will have never ending conflicts. In the long run, its better to have a short, but very violent conflict than one which tries to minimize collateral damage, but stretches out for decades.
Unfortunately, almost no one in our society understands this and even fewer can stomach it.
It helps to have a clearly articulated military objective.
Tactically, yes. Strategically, that is difficult. In WWII, our clearly articulated strategic military objective was "unconditional surrender". You could argue that we had no such thing in Korea, Vietnam and Iraq II. We clearly have no such objective against Al Qaeda. And, even if you have one, the question is: Is it the right objective? That is, will it lead to a real victory?
"And, even if you have one, the question is: Is it the right objective? That is, will it lead to a real victory?"
What is a real victory? Abe is pushing to militarize Japan again. Merkel or some other European leader warned that if the Euro fails, Europe could be at war again.
"Who lost China" has now become who lost American manufaturing to China?
What is a real victory?
Good question--and a tough one. Every conflict is different. At least England and France have stopped fighting.
Your logic on who wins ignores our current experience of remote warfare. The basis of your argument assumes nation-to-nation warfare. What we are now doing is essentially raising criminal actions to war status. The fact is criminality will always exist, and there is no surrender when there is no commanding structure. How do all bank robbers surrender? The police action we are ingaged in is not appropriate. Police action should only occur on your own soil. As for drones, I hate the idea of constant surveylance and constant buzzing, but there is no stopping it.
"Anyone who imagines you can wage war with zero collateral damage does not understand the nature of war."
Nice straw man.
"This includes the leadership and the population that supports it."
As if it's only supporters who are affected when civilians are intentionally targeted, which is hardly "collateral" in nature. Yours is the sort of cowardly mental pathology that leads to "total war", the intentional targeting of civilian populations, and hundreds of millions of (mostly civilian) corpses (20th Century).
And you counterexample is what exactly? Give me one case where a "pinprick" war succeeded. And don't say Iraq II because the jury is still very much out on that one. Panama probably comes the closest, but they were extremely weak and we still had to invade and dismantle the Noreiga regime.
I contend we would be unable to win a WWII like war today with the current political & cultural attitudes.
In the case of the US, I'd be hard pressed to think of a single war that was morally legitimate (i.e., defensive in nature). As a famous soldier once said: War is a Racket; even WWII (dutifully cherished by the governemnt-school-indoctrinated masses), which rendered much of the world safe for Communism.
Defensive in nature? Try the War of 1812.
Methinks you need to brush up on your history.
Yes: that's the first one that comes to mind. At least that one was fought on N. American soil. However, you have to ignore US ambitions with regard to annexing British North American (Canadian) territory, which were hardly "defensive."
"I contend we would be unable to win a WWII like war today with the current political & cultural attitudes."
Likely true, but attitudes change. It was stated by some commentator around the time of WW2, that Americans wouldn't have the stomach for war. Too soft.
Pat Tillman could be playing football today and be a multi millionaire, but he died as a soldier in Afghanistan. A former cheerleader was just praised by the team, for her military exploits.
Even President Peace Prize has a love of drones.
A WW2 war comes around and things will change, just as Roosevelt ran in 1940 on staying out of Europe's war, due to American's isolationist attitude, then driving The Greatest Generation toward a victory he would not see in 1945.
Even with total victory, Stalin walked off with half of Europe, leaving half a million American soldiers in West Germany for decades after.
Good point, but a number of things were different in WWII:
1. People had more common sense back then and were more willing to endure hardship. I wouldn't bet a wooden nickel on the American people's willingness to endure any kind of hardship today.
2. The MSM back then were very supportive and WANTED us to win. Today, most of the MSM would root for us to lose (at least privately).
3. We have [intentionally] shipped a lot of our manufacturing base to our potential adversaries (e.g., China). This could be overcome, but it would take time.
The one thing that probably kept WWIII from breaking out is our overwhelming nuclear arsenal (and that of the Soviet's too). Mutual Assured Destructions (MAD) is distasteful, but it worked.
My rebuttal:
1. Your reference to "common sense" is incorrect. We were attacked. Today, most people know that wars are fought for banks and the military industrial complex.
2. The MSM has cheerleaded every war of choice we have entered. Until it turns sour, which it does when it is not defensive.
3. "We" white man? Who controls the tax structure that allows off-shoring? Hint: it's not you and it's not me.
As for the success of MAD, the jury is still out and won't be back for thousands of years, or however long it takes for the affects of Fukushima et al to dissipate.
Total war ended those wars you jackass. It was various isms that started them (national socialism, communism, imperialism, colonialism...)
Where is this WAR I keep hearing so much about....??
"A central truth is this: A war is not over until the LOSER decides he has lost To win a war, you have to kill people and break things to bring that realization to the loser. In short, the winner has to be cut lose to win. Otherwise, you will have never ending conflicts."
Immediately following Total War with Germany, we had a Cold War with Russia. Conflict continued uninterupted, though in a different manner.
Each war has an effect on the next war. After the slaughter of WW1, the French were not keen on egaging the Germans in another. A sitzkreig ensued until Germany attacked in 1940.
WW2 affected the Korean War, once China stepped in. Vietnam also bordered China, so U.S. ground troops never ventured into North Vietnam, as they had in the Korean War, prior to China entering the war. Vietnam affected Gulf War 1. The cake walk in Gulf War 1 lead to similar attitude toward Gulf War 2, even without a half million troops available the second time around. A cavalier attitude resulted in near disaster.
As a result, Americans spoke up against bombing Syria.
I believe the Russians saved Syria from the US.
The objective of war is never to win.
The objective of war is always to continue the war.
Headbanger your a sick dude. a chickenhawk warmongerer I must say.
Please explain asswiper.
Or STFU
I think his point is that rationalizing the killing of thousands of non-combatants because we all ready do it is not thoughtfull. It's pathological. And as such, counter productive, to put it mildly.
You keep saying "We" but maybe you want to say "I" or "Me". We (as in a couple of my friends and I) don't like to kill other people. On the other hand you (as you and some of your buddies) want to kill (or at least accept it as unavoidable) and/or terrorize innocent people (with drones or the old fashioned way of boots on the ground).
Considering all of the above i wish you a sincere Fuck YOU (see above).
Another fucking idiot douche ball who can't comprehend what I said.
Fuck you
Would you fucking douche balls like it better if we back to using Napalm like in Vietnam and blocking media coverage like in Desert Storm??
Or keep the killing of innocents more visible with drones??
Al Qaida's stated goal is the draw the US into a never ending war.
They run around caves and mountainsides in Central Asia with horses and AK47's and the US responds with a space program, industrial scale R&D, dozens of satellites and intercontinental UAV's.
Are you really too stupid to see what the Jihad strategy is?
The US is measuring the war in lives, the Jihadists are measuring the war in USD. For every $1m the Jihadists spend on the war the US spends $1bn. They don't want to invade to US mainland they want to bankrupt it.
Sad to say, but since Greenspans 9/11 put, they're winning.
Of course, their strategy aligns perfectly with the MIC's general strategy, which is the cause for rampant speculation as to their origins and continued operations...
I see you've managed to justify it, as sickened as you are by it and all.........
Post-Vietnam there was very little public tolerance for US casualties in military conflicts.
Drones have reduced US casualties.
Post Vietnam (or even Post-Korea) it became politically unfashionable for victory (ie what Gen. MacArthur said there was no substitute for) to be the goal of any US military conflict.
So, those entities who typically stand to benefit the most from US military conflicts refashioned their business models around prolonged, non-victorious military campaigns not unlike other endless, boundless government programs larded with crony-capitalist pork.
Outcomes have been pretty much unfolding as the underlying incentives would predict.
Perhaps ironically, Clinton's Bosnia War has been the most successful and admirable post-Vietnam US conflict from a traditional war fighting perspective: maximizing technology to eliminate US casualties and minimize civilian casualties on the other side, executing a widely condoned, morally grounded, pre-defined goal in a timely matter and quitting the area in a timely manner.
and the planned pipeline route of the time was just a mere coincidence. as was securing territory for the muslims.
i did uparrow u for the rest of the post
"... executing a widely condoned, morally grounded, pre-defined goal..."
Your cartoon version of Balkans' history is idiotic. The ICTY tribunal was a ridiculous fraud. There were no moral actors in that conflict. All sides were equally guilty of war crimes. That's especially true of NATO and the US-backed KLA terrorists. For example, NATO's targets during 79 days of bombardment in Yugoslavia were 60 percent civilian, including 33 hospitals, 344 schools, and 144 industrial plants.
Well, relatively speaking anyway. And obviously all wars are bad for the innocent casualties. You might find it hard to identify an ideal war based on your criterea.
I don't make the rules but wars simply aren't fought by men in dressed in colorful costumes marching in straight lines and confined to open battlefields anymore.
"You might find it hard to identify an ideal war based on your criterea."
I'd settle for a war fought for strictly defensive purposes.
It's a shame you can't see things from the other side. Do you really think our current crop of politicians care and this isn't all part of some grand scheme?
We should all know by now that 9/11 was an inside job - with the cooperation of the Israelis and the Saudis.
Wrong.....the reason is NOT to incite another 9-11 attack. The reason is that we in the States don't have the stomach for war anymore....paticularly wars we have no business being in.
However...the psychopaths who run this country want to maintain what order to their world they think they need through militaristic means if necessary. But how do you do this with the least bloodshed which the American public shows they have no stomach for.
Well....through magic....otherwise known as high tech. When we can have ANYTHING at the touch of a button....most of the time a VIRTUAL button at that.....then why not our wars ?
The American Sheeple can't even expend enough of a fuck about their own demise of freedom much less killing civilians and children over there somewhere they haven't a clue where there is. So...we have these stories about drone massacres and nobody cares.
Big surprise.
She is in Russia.....Home of the Free and Home of the Brave.
What a Fuch-up world!!!!
An audit would be if she only showed conservative thought tendencies. This shit will get her Hastings-ed.
Barry has ordered the Air Force to pick her up in a specially-equipped Cessna and bring her home.
Brilliant. Not a single down-arrow.
http://ponerology.blogspot.com/
all anybody really needs to know to understand 21st century government
Fuck the Empire.
There is a hell fire waiting for those who dare to do such horrible things to innocents.
Unfortunately, the psychopathic operators aren't the ones that commit suicide.
They don't have consciences.
The drone program helps to weed out those with a conscience. Only sociopaths can be trusted to obey orders in the centrally planned dystopia of tomorrow.
This is also one reason why soldiers who show a knack for killing with no trace of PTSD are likely to be rewarded with lucrative stateside contracts.
They do commit "suicide" - Vincent Foster style.
We'll send someone to help.....it's not like we're savages here.
More like the INNOCENTS get the HELLFIRE missiles in Real Life
Sucks to be innocent
True, the sooner we all quit and walk away, the sooner it will be over with.......isn't that the way they all end?
If you are truly human you have no choice but to leave.
So, because she has killed numerous people by drone strike she is qualified to berate others on the immorality of drone strikes?
We welcome conscience, wherever and whenever it emerges.
And it took a LOT of guts for her to tell her story.
Long live the Foundation!
NOW can we start the impeachment?
Made me laugh. That's as funny as voting. Impeachment? Of what? How is working within the system going to change anything when the whole system is rotten?
Yup.
"If the system is corrupt, you must erupt."
The Four Rs
Rejection: Quit paying, quit obeying , quit playing
Revolution: It is inevitable, so prepare, as they are.
Retribution: Is there really any place for these sociopaths and criminals in a restored civil and Constitutional society?!
Restoration: Restore the Constitutional republic.
Nice rhetoric, won't happen.
exactly.. the only way to play is to get ahead and tune out
Ditto the ditto.
"Meet the new boss....same as the old boss"
I'm sorry....what's a boss? Well....whoever that is....and WHATever that is....fuck 'em.
I disagree. Not totally rotten. There's a few, a handful of decent people in gov. Just not at the top. Impeachment would be a victory for us. The strings cut on one puppet. To get him out Holder has to go 1st and as I understand that is the plan. The phony all out war on Syria was stopped this year... and that was a big deal. All is not lost.
i'm with you ben. things aren't as baked in as people think. everything can change, and generally does. i don't fear the future. our system can be slow, but it's usually thorough.
our system can be slow, but it's usually thorough.
Please understand: The system has no magic.
James Madison was a good man, but not a magician. (And Hamilton was a corrupt pig.)
The problem is that impeaching the puppet leaves the puppetmaster...
Not totally rotten. There's a few, a handful of decent people in gov. Just not at the top.
Exactly what the Romans said in 450 AD.
Fuck yeah, there's still 2 1/2 (ish) decades left!!!! Party like is 474 AD bitchez!
That is merely a defense mechanism. By having the caveat that "some are good," it does not force your hand to action.
If you admit that our system is as corrupt as any other empire in history, well it makes it tougher to sleep at night.
(I know that you know this)
pods
Jeb 2016.
sarc.............i hope?
Barf
Dude that's so 1990s. Like your avatar.
So the republicans can put their puppet in? No, I think we're long past using the political process to fix the system.
"America is at that awkward stage; it's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
– Claire Wolfe
I disagree on the too early status. If we don't start soon it will be too late to give them a lead shower. The longer you wait, the better prepared the enemy becomes. The better prepared the scum get, the morale factor on our side of the line starts dropping.
Impeacement is just a photo-op, go to plan B.
Impeachment gets rid of Obama the War Klown and replaces him with whom? Biden the War Klown? And all the War-Klowns-in-waiting move up a step.
The Military Industrial Complex (DARPA) was sitting around one day and said:
“What if we could create something that:
Americans would fall over themselves to use in every part of their daily life,
Americans would use it to voluntarily give up ALL of their personal information—(social, financial, political), including any illegal activities
Other countries would adopt it as well and unknowingly open themselves up to total surveillance
Would give real time location information for every citizen and keep track of where they’ve been
Would be capable of storing, sorting, and searching personal data on every individual, forever
Would make bribery and extortion infinitely possible by using the incriminating evidence collected by its use
Would bring controllable cameras and microphones into homes on their PCs and onto each individual’s person on their smart phones
And you thought it was invented just for sending pictures to grandma…
Actually I thought it was a place to complain about the government...
In Soviet USSA, the government complains about you.
Goddammit Boris! What'd I tell you about sock accounts?;)
You mean....FREE PRON??????
BullyB - you forgot getting a British subject ,muslim Kenyan elected President.
Donald Trump, hey how are ya?
Yeh fuck the drones... whatever happened to honor and no killing of women and children?
Oh yeh...Borat became President....
We've seen this before.
In the Albigensian Crusade (conducted against the Cathars in Southern France) after the fall of Beziers, the world was given "Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius" (Kill them all. For the Lord knoweth them that are His.).
This was after the Catholics within refused to hand over their Cathar neighbors.
Word on the street is that fella Jesus was a Cathar, not an orthodox Jew.
What do you want, security or little pixelated terrists running around with shovels..........??
War is hell and we are at war with these people.
With whom are we at war with? The Al-Qaeda 'terrorists' that the CIA and State Dept. of the USA fund and train? Some goatherder in BFE who could never hope in a million years to actually do any material damage to us from 6000 miles away? Oh, I know, it was those crazy kids on their way to their wedding a couple of weeks ago. I'm sure there was solid information that they were gonna breed some suicide bombers.
Anyone who believes the official .gov narrative should kill themselves.
I thought the war was on freedom and required the destruction of the US; reducing its status in the world from a beacon of hope and freedom to a land of hate, distrust and total corruption where psychopaths and sociopaths vie for control of goverment and each in turn would reign hell on all the lands to ensure the .................... er.............. nevermind.........
The war on freedom has been on in earnest since the '60s at least. They are winning handily. :-(
War is hell and we are at war with these people.
This has been a public service announcement from the NSA.
I'm not at war with anybody. I'd venture to say that you aren't either, however you don't have a problem cheering our soldiers on as they throw themselves into the meat grinder from the comfort of your living room.
most people, including most of my newswatching, so called informed family, dont care. nor do they care about those 16 poor bastards killed in yemen the other day. The international community cannot do shit to the US govt, cuz we supply all their weapons, provide their defense, and are the biggest kid on the block. And, the other group that could possibly do something about it, the US citizen, who could make a differnce by opposing this en masse, if so inclined, are hopelessly self absorbed, and do not care. It isnt happening to them, or in this country, so most people dont give a shit. Long hellfire missles and DIME munitions
"most people, including most of my newswatching, so called informed family, dont care."
"And, the other group that could possibly do something about it, the US citizen, who could make a differnce by opposing this en masse, if so inclined, are hopelessly self absorbed, and do not care."
And up ya "ALL" the points/votes for the real freaking truth. Thank you.
Love how all this information is coming out from journalists in Germany and England.
Free speach; freedom of the press....'murica
Land of the, er, free.
The U.S. press has been neutralized.
I think 'neutered' - CASTRATED - is a more appropriate adjective.
The word you're looking for is "complicit".
Bought and paid for, is the term I use.
Most of them. However, some are audited, NSA'd, blackmailed... or just murdered.
Neutralized? They're being actively used as the main weapon of the NWO.
News anchors and other TV talking heads are even ahead of politicians on my noose night list.
I don't know if they are the main weapon but they are front line. I stand corrected. These little subversive media whores are involved in treason. Then you have the Anderson CIA Cooper types who are actually part of the Oligarchy.
“The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media.”
– William Colby, former CIA director
Nah man, you're cool. I think your comment was spot on and just needed elaborating.
Front line is good enough for me.
Time to start thinking in military terms I guess.
When the enemy starts punching you in the face, you're in a fight, whether you want one or not.
William Colby <---- They droned his ass.
No....I don't have anything more to say about that.
No surprise the Jooos controlling the media are for drone programs started in Joooland designed to call in artilery strikes on little palestinian kids with rocks that under 'PIXILATION' look like enemy rocket launchers
Which is why I always watch the incredibly fair and balanced, founded by a Christian, Fox news.
The best lying presstitues eventually quit journalism and go to work for the administration.
And they are so afraid
Close it's now land of the FEE!
You mean land of the FEE? Home of the slave? Long live Capitalism. Down with Socialism. Darwin rules.
same as it ever was
Land of Freedom Inc. The only business left.
Look over there, gays on TV!
"I was just following orders."
If we had the Nuremberg trials today for these people, they would hang. That includes Heather Linebaugh.
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/soldiers-in-the-military-are-being-gagged...
Kind of like the way the Joooos just Follow the Torah
Kinda like Christians ignore the new testament yet still call themselves Christians. Keep spreading the love, Mr. Artist.
I thought Obama did get his hands 'dirty' when he boasted " I'm really good at killing people" . Maybe that is how he relaxes when its too rainy to play golf.
Just dont beat him in golf, he is a sore loser, and on that rainy day may just decide to take you out with a drone strike on American soil.
Yeah, it's his own personal 'first person drone' video game.
The reason the globalists are implementing drones is so that when the military turns against them they can retaliate with a minimal number of mercenaries.
But they are idiots since they are the world/s enemies the drone warfare tech will be used against them.
In any case just shows how out of control and out of touch the elite have become.
When drone warfare comes to America, TPTB could use Pakistani pilots who have lost a relative to drones. Divide and conquer.
With drones the dual citizen Jooos will need no US military to eliminate dissenting voices, the operators for the strikes will be Joooos in Joootopia
Do you feel better now that you got your bad jooos fix?
Run that by again after an elite has been droned
Can you imagine the really good stuff Snowden is waiting to release.
"Oh enough already with Snowjob and Greenwash. It's an Op. It's already been exposed. What are you guys doing continuing to promote this BS?
Snowden didn't tell us anything that previous whistleblowers hadn't already revealed.
NSA Whistleblower Thomas Drake speaks at the National Press Club
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wp2BGLMqDM)
NSA Whistleblower William Binney (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=NSA+Whistleblower+Everyone+in+the+U.S.+is+under+surveillance&sm=3)
NSA Whistleblower Russell Tice goes on the record and reveals new information (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nsa+russell+tice&sm=3)
The Snowden operation appears to be just that, an Op.
Drake, Binney and Tice have already told us everything Snowden “revealed”. In Snowden’s case, however, the data is spiced with salacious details (Merkel’s cell phone, agent’s using NSA resources to pursue sexual misconduct). Wow. It’s just like a Hollywood movie.
Nobody in their right mind would accept the way these events are framed by the corporate media or Ford Foundation mouthpieces.
The argument is constructed in such a way as to persuade ordinary people concerned with privacy or the constitution, to align with Snowden, and thereby Greenwald and his billionaire sponsor.
This Op also distracts attention from the real whistle-blowers cited above. In that regard, it is a gift that keeps on giving, much in the way of the color coded terror alerts, or new videos from bin Laden, in the past, have been timed to achieve political aims.
And thus a whole new constellation of stars arise, for not only do we have Snowden, the hero, we have Greenwald who has gained the reputation of a fearless truth-teller, because nobody bothered to undertake a proper examination of his record (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9K5I8SIwoM). And Omidyar, the billionaire gets to launch his new network with a stable of superstar reporters (Greenwald, Skahill, etc.) and a treasure trove of saucy “revelations” to keep the punters pumping.
Everybody wins – the billionaires, the NSA, the fake journalists and their fake “alternative” news, the smug liberals and libertarians, everybody except the reality based community, and the victims, whose charred remains litter the middle east; and the many other places where the cameras do not go."
say what you will rand paul stood up against the drone program. hes only been there 3 years
Gee, maybe he'll do wonderous and miraculous things over the course of 30+ years for the good of the People, just like his old man.
Oh, wait ... .
Anyone involved with these drone programs, including the so called "Defense" contractors should be under criminal prosecution. But first we must have the Chief Criminal at the Department of Justice, Eric Holder, impeached/removed from office and prosecuted for subversion, murder, and treason. Is that too much to ask?
Remember they are to be used on us next.
One needs a pesky justice system first.
Good luck with that.
Patton: Wonder weapons? My God, I don't see the wonder in them. Killing without heroics. Nothing is glorified, nothing is reaffirmed. No heroes, no cowards, no troops. No generals. Only those that are left alive and those that are left... dead.
It is so short and jumbled and jangled, Sam, because there is nothing intelligent to say about a massacre. Everybody is supposed to be dead, to never say anything or want anything ever again. Everything is supposed to be very quiet after a massacre, and it always is, except for the birds.
And what do they birds say? All there is to say about a massacre, things like "Poo-tee-weet?"
I have told my sons that they are not under any circumstances to take part in massacres, and that the news of massacres of enemies is not to fill them with satisfaction or glee.
I have also told them not to work for companies which make massacre machinery, and to express contempt for people who think we need machinery like that.
--Kurt Vonnegut, 'Slaughterhouse-Five', letter from author to publisher
Quoted from possibly the best book review ever, Harlan Ellison on Vonnegut, LA Times 1969, reprinted in an LA Times blog here:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/jacketcopy/2009/10/vonnegut.html
Bullies.
What goes around, comes around.
Everything you do comes back on you.
Perhaps one day a fella such as James Blue will burn in hell fire too.
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