Guest Post: 2014 Will Bring More Social Collapse

Tyler Durden's picture

Submitted by Dr. Paul Craig Roberts via Alt-Market blog,

2014 is upon us. For a person who graduated from Georgia Tech in 1961, a year in which the class ring showed the same date right side up or upside down, the 21st century was a science fiction concept associated with Stanley Kubrick's 1968 film, "2001: A Space Odyssey." To us George Orwell's 1984 seemed so far in the future we would never get there. Now it is 30 years in the past.

Did we get there in Orwell's sense? In terms of surveillance technology, we are far beyond Orwell's imagination. In terms of the unaccountability of government, we exceptional and indispensable people now live a 1984 existence. In his alternative to the Queen's Christmas speech, Edward Snowden made the point that a person born in the 21st century will never experience privacy. For new generations the word privacy will refer to something mythical, like a unicorn.

Many Americans might never notice or care. I remember when telephone calls were considered to be private. In the 1940s and 1950s the telephone company could not always provide private lines. There were "party lines" in which two or more customers shared the same telephone line. It was considered extremely rude and inappropriate to listen in on someone's calls and to monopolize the line with long duration conversations.

The privacy of telephone conversations was also epitomized by telephone booths, which stood on street corners, in a variety of public places, and in "filling stations" where an attendant would pump gasoline into your car's fuel tank, check the water in the radiator, the oil in the engine, the air in the tires, and clean the windshield. A dollar's worth would purchase 3 gallons, and $5 would fill the tank.

Even in the 1980s and for part of the 1990s there were lines of telephones on airport waiting room walls, each separated from the other by sound absorbing panels. Whether the panels absorbed the sounds of the conversation or not, they conveyed the idea that calls were private.

The notion that telephone calls are private left Americans' consciousness prior to the NSA listening in. If memory serves, it was sometime in the 1990s when I entered the men's room of an airport and observed a row of men speaking on their cell phones in the midst of the tinkling sound of urine hitting water and noises of flushing toilets. The thought hit hard that privacy had lost its value.

I remember when I arrived at Merton College, Oxford, for the first term of 1964. I was advised never to telephone anyone whom I had not met, as it would be an affront to invade the privacy of a person to whom I was unknown. The telephone was reserved for friends and acquaintances, a civility that contrasts with American telemarketing.

The efficiency of the Royal Mail service protected the privacy of the telephone. What one did in those days in England was to write a letter requesting a meeting or an appointment. It was possible to send a letter via the Royal Mail to London in the morning and to receive a reply in the afternoon. Previously it had been possible to send a letter in the morning and to receive a morning reply, and to send another in the afternoon and receive an afternoon reply.

When one flies today, unless one stops up one's ears with something, one hears one's seat mate's conversations prior to takeoff and immediately upon landing. Literally, everyone is talking nonstop. One wonders how the economy functioned at such a high level of incomes and success prior to cell phones. I can remember being able to travel both domestically and internationally on important business without having to telephone anyone. What has happened to America that no one can any longer go anywhere without constant talking?

If you sit at an airport gate awaiting a flight, you might think you are listening to a porn film. The overhead visuals are usually Fox "News" going on about the need for a new war, but the cell phone audio might be young women describing their latest sexual affair.

Americans, or many of them, are such exhibitionists that they do not mind being spied upon or recorded. It gives them importance. According to Wikipedia, Paris Hilton, a multimillionaire heiress, posted her sexual escapades online, and Facebook had to block users from posting nude photos of themselves. Sometime between my time and now people ceased to read 1984. They have no conception that a loss of privacy is a loss of self. They don't understand that a loss of privacy means that they can be intimidated, blackmailed, framed, and viewed in the buff. Little wonder they submitted to porno-scanners.

The loss of privacy is a serious matter. The privacy of the family used to be paramount. Today it is routinely invaded by neighbors, police, Child Protective Services (sic), school administrators, and just about anyone else.

Consider this: A mother of six and nine year old kids sat in a lawn chair next to her house watching her kids ride scooters in the driveway and cul-de-sac on which they live.

Normally, this would be an idyllic picture. But not in America. A neighbor, who apparently did not see the watching mother, called the police to report that two young children were outside playing without adult supervision. Note that the next door neighbor, a woman, did not bother to go next door to speak with the mother of the children and express her concern that they children were not being monitored while they played. The neighbor called the police.

"We're here for you," the cops told the mother, who was carried off in handcuffs and spent the next 18 hours in a cell in prison clothes.

The news report doesn't say what happened to the children, whether the father appeared and insisted on custody of his offspring or whether the cops turned the kids over to Child Protective Services.

This shows you what Americans are really like. Neither the neighbor nor the police had a lick of sense. The only idea that they had was to punish someone. This is why America has the highest incarceration rate and the highest total number of prison inmates in the entire world. Washington can go on and on about "authoritarian" regimes in Russia and China, but both countries have far lower prison populations than "freedom and democracy" America.

I was unaware that laws now exist requiring the supervision of children at play. Children vary in their need for supervision. In my day supervision was up to the mother's judgment. Older children were often tasked with supervising the younger. It was one way that children were taught responsibility and developed their own judgment.

When I was five years old, I walked to the neighborhood school by myself. Today my mother would be arrested for child endangerment.

In America punishment falls more heavily on the innocent, the young, and the poor than it does on the banksters who are living on the Federal Reserve's subsidy known as Quantitative Easing and who have escaped criminal liability for the fraudulent financial instruments that they sold to the world. Single mothers, depressed by the lack of commitment of the fathers of their children, are locked away for using drugs to block out their depression. Their children are seized by a Gestapo institution, Child Protective Services, and end up in foster care where many are abused.

According to numerous press reports, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10 year-old children who play cowboys and indians or cops and robbers during recess and raise a pointed finger while saying "bang-bang" are arrested and carried off to jail in handcuffs as threats to their classmates. In my day every male child and the females who were "Tom boys" would have been taken to jail. Playground fights were normal, but no police were ever called. Handcuffing a child would not have been tolerated.

From the earliest age, boys were taught never to hit a girl. In those days there were no reports of police beating up teenage girls and women or body slamming the elderly. To comprehend the degeneration of the American police into psychopaths and sociopaths, go online and observe the video of Lee Oswald in police custody in 1963.

Oswald was believed to have assassinated President John F. Kennedy and murdered a Dallas police officer only a few hours previously to the film. Yet he had not been beaten, his nose wasn't broken, and his lips were not a bloody mess. Now go online and pick from the vast number of police brutality videos from our present time and observe the swollen and bleeding faces of teenage girls accused of sassing overbearing police officers.

In America today people with power are no longer accountable. This means citizens have become subjects, an indication of social collapse.

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A Lunatic's picture

'The price of freedom is the willingness to do sudden battle anywhere, anytime, and with utter recklessness'

-Robert Heinlein-

In other words, holding people accountable.......

yogibear's picture

It's not going to happen with this current generation groomed ignorant/indifferent of the US constitution.

Like in Germany in the 1920's a people ready for a despot/dictator or tyrant to lead them.

Anyone in the US interested in leading the American people to tyranny?


Skateboarder's picture

My friend told me about how his homeschooling group went to a public school setting and he was told that it was illegal to take pictures of kids without the parents' permission. I'm talking about any pictures, period.

satoshi101's picture

Funny now all have these 'cameras' in our smart-phones, but you can't photograph cops, or teachers ( schools ),... very funny,... but you can photo your genitals and upload them.

Welcome to America.


Anusocracy's picture

Very good read.

From the article:

The Adolescent Squeeze

Before 1850, laws restricting the behavior of teens were few and far between. Compulsory education laws evolved in tandem with laws restricting labor by young people. Beginning in 1960, the number of laws infantilizing adolescents accelerated dramatically. You may have had a paper route when you were 12, but your children can't.

1641 Massachusetts law prohibits people under 16 from "smiting" their parents

1836 Massachusetts passes first law requiring minimal schooling for people under 15 working in factories
1848 Pennsylvania sets 12 as minimum work age for some jobs
1852 Massachusetts passes first universal compulsory education law in U.S., requires three months of schooling for all young people ages 8-14
1880s Some states pass laws restricting various behaviors by young people: smoking, singing on the streets, prostitution, "incorrigible" behavior
1881 American Federation of Labor calls on states to ban people under 14 from working
1898 World's first juvenile court established in Illinois—constitutional rights of minors effectively taken away

1903 Illinois requires school attendance and restricts youth labor
1918 All states have compulsory education laws in place
1933 First federal law restricting drinking by young people
1936 & 1938 First successful federal laws restricting labor by young people, establishing 16 and 18 as minimum ages for work; still in effect
1940 Most states have laws in place restricting driving by people under 16
1968 Supreme Court upholds states' right to prohibit sale of obscene materials to minors
1968 Movie rating system established to restrict young people from certain films
1970s Supreme Court upholds laws restricting young women's right to abortion
1970s Dramatic increase in involuntary electroshock therapy (ECT) of teens
1980s Many cities and states pass laws restricting teens' access to arcades and other places of amusement; Supreme Court upholds such laws in 1989
1980s Courts uphold states' right to prohibit sale of lottery tickets to minors
1980 to 1998 Rate of involuntary commitment of minors to mental institutions increases 300-400 percent
1984 First national law effectively raising drinking age to 21
1988 Supreme Court denies freedom of press to school newspapers
1989 Missouri court upholds schools' right to prohibit dancing
1989 Court rules school in Florida can ban salacious works by Chaucer and Aristophanes
1990s Curfew laws for young people sweep cities and states
1990s Dramatic increase in use of security systems in schools
1992 Federal law prohibits sale of tobacco products to minors
1997 New federal law makes easier involuntary commitment of teens

2000+ New laws restricting minors' rights to get tattoos, piercings, and to enter tanning salons spread through U.S.
2000+ Tougher driving laws sweeping through states: full driving rights obtained gradually over a period of years
2000+ Dramatic increase in zero-tolerance laws in schools, resulting in suspensions or dismissals for throwing spitballs, making gun gestures with hand, etc.
2000+ New procedures and laws making it easier to prosecute minors as adults

Currently spreading nationwide:
New rules prohibiting cell phones in schools or use of cell phones by minors while driving
Libraries and schools block access to Internet material by minors
New dress code rules in schools
New rules restricting wearing of potentially offensive clothing or accessories in schools
New laws prohibiting teens from attending parties where alcohol is served (even if they're not drinking)
New laws restricting teens' access to shopping malls
Tracking devices routinely installed in cell phones and cars of teens
New availability of home drug tests for teens
New laws prohibiting minors from driving with any alcohol in bloodstream (zero-tolerance)
Proposals for longer school days, longer school year, and addition of grades 13 and 14 to school curriculum under discussion

satoshi101's picture

Well there is the notion 'protect them to death'.

Yep, sure as hell glad when I was a kid, I was armed to the teeth with bb-guns post 5+, and always had m-80's and cherry bombs in my pocket, and zip-guns on the ready.

No more beautiful sight that putting  cherry bomb down a public-toilet and watching the toilet bowl fly through the roof.

Go watch "xmas story' for those that want to know what it was like being a 'BOY' back in the day,


Well it ain't just the kids that have 'LAW', there are lots of law's on us too, like drug laws, gun control

Fuck DUI/DWI I hate the most, in the real world, if you kill somebody driving drunk or not, you die on the spot, in the USA you just hire a lawyer to get off.

Don't worry folks, the real world is still free, only the fucking USA has turned its children into fearful little fucking stuffed toys on ritalin that sit in front of a video, ahh not unlike their parents.


SafelyGraze's picture

"For a person who graduated from Georgia Tech in 1961, a year in which the class ring showed the same date right side up or upside down, the 21st century was a science fiction concept"

wreck on!

for a person who graduated in 1881, a year in which the class ring showed the same date right side up or upside down, the 20th century was a science fiction concept also! 

satoshi101's picture

A lot of these authors do this, ... stupid shit,...

Robert's is good, cuz he tells the truth, ... something you don't see posted often on ZH, I'm quite surprised they posted his story today. But they did and that is good.

911 upside down is 116, and the 116 day of 2014 will be the end of the world, right? Science Fiction? Truth is always stranger than science fiction, ... but so fucking what?

The point of this OP-POST is that the cops are now beating little 10 year old girls, and knocking granny's teeth out,... and the fact that the MSM doesn't tell the masses to protest is telling, ... but then TSA was finger banging infants during BUSH,.... I would argue its been game-over for years, ... wonder why Roberts only see's the TRUTH now?

Disenchanted's picture

re: "wonder why Roberts only see's the TRUTH now?"

Go back and look for some of his archived columns from the 2000s...He saw it long ago.


Here's an example from September 2005:

America Has Fallen to a Jacobin Coup
Disenchanted's picture

Paul Craig Roberts, October 23, 2007:

Bush's “Permission To Fly” Proposals:  Preaching Liberty, Promoting Tyranny




Any agency of the government that can propose such a tyrannical regulation should be abolished.  The TSA’s mentality shows it to be a far greater threat to Americans than are terrorists. 


Even without the “permission to fly” rule, the TSA’s practices are ridiculous and unjustified.  The confiscation of tooth paste and unopened bottles of perfume, the harassment of US military officers in uniform, the harassment of old people struggling with their walkers, of mothers struggling with small children–none of this makes any sense except in terms of getting Americans accustomed to harassment as a citizen’s duty to government and to train a cadre to conduct warrantless searches of fellow citizens.


The no-fly list itself is absurd. If a known terrorist were to show up at an airport, he would be arrested, not refused permission to fly.  Anyone else who can clear security like other passengers has every right to fly. 


Set aside the violation of the Constitution and the Soviet-style tyranny of the loss of the freedom to travel and consider merely the practical aspect of the proposal.  What American wants his travel plans dependent on a government bureaucracy capable of putting US Senator Ted Kennedy on the “no fly” list and capable of issuing US visas to two of the alleged 9/11 hijackers six months after they allegedly died in the 9/11 events?


If we believe the official story, 9/11 itself reveals a government totally devoid of any competence whatsoever. 


Supernova Born's picture

You had me at the 1961 observation.

Musashi Miyamoto's picture

I went to the halls for truancy. They stuck me in one of these special needs schools for high risk youth. Barbed Fences and Plexiglas windows. the whole shebang.

I remember vividly. I must have been 16. I was sitting at the back of the class. They gave us these short golf pencils so we would not shank anyone. We did these packets.

14 X 12 =

. I sat at the back of the class reading a book on Wave Propagation in 3 Dimensions. Nobody knew what the fuck i was reading. teachers left me alone for the most part. It was a bit over my head but i managed to figure out differentials.

Fuck the system.

satoshi101's picture

Funny I did the same thing,... bored as shit, went to the library and read everybook I could find on how to make LSD and explosives, by the time I was 12-14, ... I didn't even know it but I knew as much as most guys with BS degrees about math, physics, and chemistry,

When I was 14 I could pick any lock and get any chemical I needed, I didn't get into my first CHEM class at high school until 16, but I started local college at 14, go figure,...

Yep, they didn't have clue what I was doing, never got caught, but a few friends nearly OD'd on some of my early LSD.


Now the books contain no info, and the a kid that spends his time in the library would probably be called a 'terrorist'.

No regrets, ... I never spent school time smoking, or playing sports, spent all my school ours reading, and saved gang fighting and screwing the girls for after school hours. I didn't even realize I had the equivalent of 5th year math/physics/chem until I took the MIL tests at 17 years old to get the fuck out of dodge, and MIL said I had the highest scores they had ever seen, and sent me to MIL-COLLEGE, and taught be how make and play with BIGGER bombs and drugs.


Yep, same here about 10th grade high school they brought in the barb-wrire fences,... but they're were always ways to get in/out, besides I would ride a motorcycle, any fucking place I wanted and nobody could catch me, ... yep those were the best days.


In summary, ... give a child freedom, ... to explore, to search, a famous sailor once said "If a man isn't allowed ROAM he will be come a MORON", certainly our GUBMINT wants a nation of morons.


Musashi Miyamoto's picture

Tip of the hat,

I thought about enlisting, still read Field Manuals on days off. I couldn't deal with more authority. When I turned 18. I walked out and dropped off the map. Never registered with selective service, never filled out a tax return. I bow to no man. I like to think myself a Ronin.

IridiumRebel's picture

Musashi Miyamoto and Satoshi101 aka satoshi401 aka carlin401 are the same person. Both have been here for one week and one day almost to the hour. Miyamoto is the "sympathetic agreement" to the utter shite that satoshi101 spews that has rendered receiving the boot in numerous other forms. You can change your names or try to create other user names, but the bullshit is just the same. 

satoshi101's picture

So what IridiumRebel is fonestar bitcoin whore, but do I care? fuck no, I don't care,

This is fight club, and men with vaginas walk, and the rest of us talk.

IridiumRebel's picture

There the psycho we know so well! Fuckin pathetic that you are such a loser you have to create alter-egos to agree with you.

Musashi Miyamoto's picture

Fuck you bitch. There's always the one fucker with the small dick who wants some attention. Cry back to mommy and piss off.

Listen up maggot, You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You are the same decaying organic matter as everyone else, and we are all a part of the same compost pile

IridiumRebel's picture

Did I piss in your corn flakes? You're not fooling anyone.

bigrooster's picture

@ IridiumRebel

Judging from their responses you nailed it.

IridiumRebel's picture

You're Goddamned right I did!

WillyGroper's picture

where do these people come from?


in4mayshun's picture

Kinda ironic that when I was 7, I had already figured out that only morons would go point a gun at a stranger and shoot them simply because their GUBMINT told them to.

War is a racket. People who willfully participate are brainless puppets.

CH1's picture

War is a racket.


People who willfully participate are brainless puppets.

No, not really. Most of the enlisted kids have been deceived by life-long propaganda. They too are victims.

Anusocracy's picture

How not to raise drones for the government.

Taking Children Seriously (TCS) is a parenting movement and educational philosophy whose central idea is that it is possible and desirable to raise and educate children without either doing anything to them against their will, or making them do anything against their will.

It was founded in 1994 as an email mailing-list by the libertarians Sarah Fitz-Claridge and David Deutsch. Deutsch is also a theoretical physicist at Oxford University.[1]

TCS begins with the observation that most traditional interactions between adults and youth are based on coercion. The TCS model of parenting and education rejects this coercion as infringing on the will of the child, and also rejects parental or educator "self-sacrifice" as infringing on the will of the adult. TCS advocates that parents and children work to find a common preference, a solution all parties genuinely prefer to all other candidate solutions they can think of.[2]

The TCS philosophy was inspired by the epistemology of Karl Popper. Popper was a professional educator himself before he started to do philosophy. In fact, philosophy was only a second option for him at that time, to be able to emigrate to escape the imminent Anschluss. He was active in the Wiener Schulreform (Vienna school reform) movement,[3][4] and there are connections between the psychology of learning, on which he did his doctoral thesis,[5] and his philosophy.[6] However, as a philosopher, he did not advocate any concrete pedagogy, although he had some general views on the issue.[7] TCS views Popper's epistemology, as Popper himself, as a universal theory of how knowledge grows, and tries to work out its profound implications for educational theory.

vie's picture

I've been doing that with my kid.  Didn't even know it was a thing.  

Good to know not everyone is as sick as the rest of society.  Reading up on Narcissistic Personality Disorder a while back, one of the big contributors was parents who constently project their will on their child, treating them as if they had no will of their own.  The kid then grows up and learns to interact with everyone else in the same manner. Seems to work great for Corporate America though.

CH1's picture

Good to know not everyone is as sick as the rest of society.


There are healthy people out there. They just think they're alone, because everything they see (even on places like ZH) focusses on the bad and the dark.

Undercurrents of good things are building. Find them and add to them!

Max Cynical's picture

Yet a teenager may get an abortion with the assistance of a school counselor without any parental involvement/consent.

Musashi Miyamoto's picture

If you've ever been involved in a radical protest in the states you'll find these organizers typically avoid camera's like the plague

Tijuana Donkey Show's picture

I think that arose from paedophile issues in the past with people "photographing" kids. Not saying I 100% agree, but I have seen why people might want to restrict it. 

satoshi101's picture

Is that why the police don't want to be photographed?

Tijuana Donkey Show's picture

It's only sexual assult when they are 18+ ;) "That asshole isn't going to finger itself.."

Skateboarder's picture

Paedophiles need to be handled, and inappropriate "photography" or anything of children is obscenely wrong and fucked. However, I was seeing this through the lens of freedoms lost in general. You certainly don't want 'em to come for everyone's guns because some [likely planted] asshole massacred some people at some point.

The whole 'kids' thing is so fucking sensitive now. If you care about the well being of women and children, you will always protect them. Pansy generations have forgotten how to be kids, how to raise kids., and the state would love to womb2tomb your ass for a low fee of $29.99/mo for the rest of your life.

satoshi101's picture

Hillary Clinton 2016 will lead the USA public to Hitlerian Nirvanna, with Yellen leading the FED, 2014 will be the YEAR OF THE WOMAN.

2016 will be called a "new world order" with women leading the world, not unlike we were promised a new world with a 'black' ( obama ain't black - jesse jackson ), ... every few years a new BROKEN PROMISE comes from the dark asshole of the political elite,...


Oh regional Indian's picture

If the "game" called Knockout (known as King Hit in Oz as I learned yesterday) is any indication, the youth you speak of are being shot down the peer pressure gutter faster than you can say Societal Collapse.

Going to be a tough year in the US and worldwide generally.

Good luck all around...



TDoS's picture

The men who wrote and signed the constitution owned slaves, massacred natives, and rode out in armies to squash the Whiskey Rebellion.  Yeah, they were real men of the people.

IridiumRebel's picture

The native Americans were brutally killing each other for centuries before whitey showed up. Slaves were a world wide trade at the time so it's not like it was only happening here. Slavery was abolished soon after and well before most other societies. I'll try to drum up some reparations for you ok?

Tegrat's picture

Be sure to include Oprah and Kanye on the reparations list. I'm sure as free people in Africa their lives (and so many others) would have been so much better.


Cloud9.5's picture

People still don’t get it.  Those documents were about the way things ought to be.  They are not about what was or is.  You think Jefferson did not know what he was doing when he wrote that all men are created equal?  He was a slave holder for God sakes.  He was one of the brightest men in the room.  He knew people would view him as a hypocrite.  He could just as easily have written that all white men were created equal.   He did not take the easy way out.  He set a goal to be attained. 


We will never be perfect.  It is not in our nature.  In our despair and cynicism we have ceased striving for what ought to be.  In so doing we have succumbed to our baser nature and lost sight of the prize.   We must once again strive for the prize.

AGuy's picture

" You think Jefferson did not know what he was doing when he wrote that all men are created equal? He was a slave holder for God sakes. He was one of the brightest men in the room. He knew people would view him as a hypocrite. He could just as easily have written that all white men were created equal. He did not take the easy way out. He set a goal to be attained. "

Personally I think the "all mem created equal" was all Ben Franklin who was very anti-slaverly. Jefferson was more or less a laisez faire believer. Jefferson wrote the Declaration of independance, but Franklin was the editor and probably outlined it for Jefferson.  I think Franklin choose Jefferson so that the south would sign it since it was written by "one of thier boys". Imagine if a northern boy wrote it instead. its unlikely the south would have agreed to sign it. Certainly if Franklin wrote it, they would have torn it up since Franklin was well know as an abolitionist.

"He was one of the brightest men in the room."

Franklin WAS the brightest man in the room!  Inventor, Scientist and Philosopher.


Duke of Earl's picture

"You think Jefferson did not know what he was doing when he wrote that all men are created equal?  He was a slave holder for God sakes.  He was one of the brightest men in the room.  He knew people would view him as a hypocrite.  He could just as easily have written that all white men were created equal.   He did not take the easy way out.  He set a goal to be attained."


He didn't want to extend that to womyn apparently. ;) Totally agree with your idealism.

economicmorphine's picture

Cloud,  Great post!  Thank you.

Miles Ahead's picture

"The native Americans were brutally killing each other for centuries before whitey showed up. Slaves were a world wide trade at the time so it's not like it was only happening here. Slavery was abolished soon after and well before most other societies. I'll try to drum up some reparations for you ok?"

And that's that!  Saves me a lot of unnecessary American History reading (thank goodness).

The Money Shot (like in other forms of porn...)  "Slavery was abolished soon after (it was deemed economic suicide) and well before other societies (like Papua New Guniea)". 

Yes it was a good year - 1865, but when you count peonage then it's more like say, 1920-40 in reality.  Hmmm, 280 years plus... soon after but not soon enough for a few (million, give or take a few) unlucky souls.

in4mayshun's picture

And yet those men whom you deride gave us the greatest document in history which produced the most prosperous nation the world had ever known.

You were sayin....

satoshi101's picture

Not true, no country in the world respects 'USA democracy',

Probably the biggest lie of all is that the USA is great or prosperous, the USA murdered over 100 million people post 1910, ... and shared the loot with the citizens up to the 1980's,... and then to the 2008, floated bubbles, and then it all collapsed.

Special? Fuck no, just another banana plantation, and the natives think they're special, they're not.