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India Minister Warns Of "The Return Of The Ugly American"

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Authored by Shashi Tharoor (India's Minister of State for Human Resource Development), originally posted at Project Syndicate,

Nearly a month after American authorities arrested India’s deputy consul general in New York, Devyani Khobragade, outside her children’s school and charged her with paying her Indian domestic worker a salary below the minimum wage, bilateral relations remain tense. India’s government has reacted with fury to the mistreatment of an official enjoying diplomatic immunity, and public indignation has been widespread and nearly unanimous. So, has an era of steadily improving ties between the two countries come to an end?

Judging from Indian leaders’ statements, it would certainly seem so. India’s mild-mannered Prime Minister Manmohan Singh declared that Khobragade’s treatment was “deplorable.” National Security Adviser Shivshankar Menon called her arrest “despicable” and “barbaric,” and Foreign Minister Salman Khurshid refused to take a conciliatory phone call from US Secretary of State John Kerry.

Emotions have run high in India’s Parliament and on television talk shows as well. Writing to her diplomatic colleagues after her arrest, Khobragade, who has denied the charges against her, noted that she “broke down many times,” owing to “the indignities of repeated handcuffing, stripping, and cavity searches, swabbing,” and to being held “with common criminals and drug addicts.” A former Indian foreign minister, Yashwant Sinha, has publicly called for retaliation against gay American diplomats in India, whose sexual orientation and domestic arrangements are now illegal after a recent Supreme Court ruling. The government has not taken him seriously, but his suggestion indicates how inflamed passions have become.

Some retaliation has occurred. The initial American rationale (that foreign consuls in the US enjoy a lower level of immunity than other diplomats) led India’s government to re-examine privileges enjoyed by US consular officials that are unavailable to their Indian counterparts in the US. These privileges – including full-fledged diplomatic ID cards, access to the restricted customs areas of airports, tax-free shipments of items for personal consumption, and no questions asked about the terms of their employment of local domestic staff – were swiftly withdrawn. The cardinal principle of diplomatic relations is reciprocity, and India realized that it had been naïve in extending courtesies to the US that it was not receiving in return.

Likewise, the police have removed bollards and barriers that the US Embassy had unilaterally placed on the street in front of its complex in New Delhi, creating an obstacle to free circulation on a public road that India had tolerated in a spirit of friendship. (The government has, however, reiterated its commitment to the US Embassy’s security, even reinforcing the police presence outside.)

Tempers remain inflamed, with US Ambassador Nancy Powell, in a New Year’s message to Indians, ruefully acknowledging that ties have been “jolted by very different reactions to issues involving one of your consular officers and her domestic worker.” Kerry has also expressed “regret” over the incident. But the US has shown no signs of moving to drop the charges to defuse the crisis.

Indians remain bewildered that the US State Department would so willfully jeopardize a relationship that American officials had been describing as “strategic” over a practice routinely followed by foreign diplomats for decades. Most developing-country diplomats take domestic staff with them on overseas assignments, paying them a good salary by their national standards, plus a cost differential for working aboard. In Khobragade’s case, perquisites included a fully furnished room in a pricey Manhattan apartment, a television set, a mobile phone, medical insurance, and tickets home.

The cash part of the salary may be low by US standards – Khobragade herself, as a mid-ranking Indian diplomat, earns less than what the US considers a fair wage – but, with the other benefits, the compensation is attractive for a domestic helper. More to the point, Khobragade did not find her maid in the US labor market and “exploit” her; she brought her from India to help her in her representational duties, on an official passport, with a US visa given for that purpose. In almost no other country are local labor laws applied in such a manner to a foreign diplomat’s personal staff.

Privately, US diplomats express frustration at their helplessness in the face of theatrical grandstanding by the ambitious federal prosecutor, Preet Bharara, an Indian-American who has launched a series of high-profile cases against Indians in America. For once, however, the zealous Bharara seems to have slipped up, because Khobragade was arrested at a time when she enjoyed full diplomatic (not just consular) immunity as an adviser to India’s United Nations mission during the General Assembly. The State Department’s handling of the matter – which included approval of Khobragade’s arrest – has been, to say the least, inept.

Worse, just before the arrest, the maid’s family was spirited out of India on US visas for victims of human trafficking. The implication that an Indian diplomat in a wage dispute with her maid is guilty of human trafficking understandably riles Indian diplomats as much as the treatment of Khobragade after she was detained. The American habit of imposing its worldview self-righteously on others is deeply unwelcome. To most Indians, common discourtesy cannot be repackaged as moral virtue.

Indian-American relations had been strengthening, owing to both sides’ shared commitment to democracy, common concerns about China, and increasing trade and investment. The Khobragade affair suggests, however, that all of this is not enough: sustaining a strategic partnership requires, above all, mutual respect.

India had handled American diplomats with a generosity of spirit that it felt the bilateral relationship deserved. Now, with the same spirit shown to be lacking from the other side, the friendship has suffered. Until the US displays appropriate deference to the sensitivities, pride, and honor of other peoples and cultures, it will continue to be resented around the world.

 


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Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:33 | Link to Comment Headbanger
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Good luck!    Americans have the most self righteous attitude from being told how great they are and have it by the government and media to help placate them from seeing what deep trouble they're in.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:38 | Link to Comment Pladizow
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The Americans did this to accomplish a desired result.

Perhaps like Bengazhi, it wants its Indian Embassy attacked?

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:41 | Link to Comment Scarlett
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The real "shining city on the hill" is the one with the gold.  India.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:46 | Link to Comment TerminalDebt
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Indians buying too much gold, must shut them down.

First you break ties, then you bomb them and mine their gold

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:57 | Link to Comment Pegasus Muse
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"...theatrical grandstanding by the ambitious federal prosecutor, Preet Bharara, an Indian-American who has launched a series of high-profile cases against Indians in America."

Old Preet would get a lot more mileage from prosecuting and jailing any of several thousand Wall Street Gangster Banksters who thieved, defrauded, and stole America blind over the past decade.  He ought to start with this PigMan,

http://tinyurl.com/oq5zk6h and continue right down the list http://tinyurl.com/mcdc3d9

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:07 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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THis whole thing is so ludicrous, it smacks of a set-play...pure social engineering....get everyone angry with America...

Very strange till you see the bigger picture.

ori

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:26 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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25 billion in hard currency taken out by the Indian Government this past year as iron ore production is declared "illegal." timing couldn't be more predictable. Gotta love those crazy moves in Thailand.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:34 | Link to Comment I am more equal...
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When Obamaclown stops the car, the other clowns get out, the circus has arrived, and you never know what the clowns will do next to get the laughs they so deserve.  India just got pranked by the clown running this show.  Who will run the hotels and convenience stores if they presist in the manner and the Indians leave?

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:09 | Link to Comment TBT or not TBT
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Who will write and test our code? A lack of convenience stores is just an inconvenience.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:42 | Link to Comment Vampyroteuthis ...
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Dear Indians,

     We as Americans have laws in our country that EVERYONE is to obey. Just because you think you are better than us does not give you permission to break them. If you don't like it, go back to your 3rd world hole.

-One Ugly American

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:52 | Link to Comment Abitdodgie
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This all happened in the Indian embassy so it was still in India not in Amerika thats why you have diplomatic imunity.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 14:23 | Link to Comment ronaldawg
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HA HA HA - Indian royalty treat their home help and nannies like SLAVES.  And this is going to cause an international problem.  What a joke - they have been doing this for centuries.  The Caste system still survives.

If she was Muslim we won't be hearing about it.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 14:44 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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you are free to smuggle all the gold you want into America....but you have to get away with it. In short "don't used the hired help." Bring it in yourself...or use an American who dresses well and looks the part. Or "just buy a place on the Bay in San Francisco with a dock and go on your usual week long fishing expedition." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyxLaHmOaYM

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 19:00 | Link to Comment kalki1234
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Caste System

 

Once the eighteenth-century European scholars had invented 'Race Science', colonial administrators were quick to recognize the potential of this emerging field and utilized it as an effective governing tool. Employing imaginary racial categories based on vague Biblical reference points, they imposed these racist categories like signposts on top of the many distinctive regional and linguistic communities in India. These imported classifications led to greater fragmentation and conflicts within the country. Max Müller's interpretation of Vedic literature in terms of a clash between two racial groups, led him to search for physical features in the Vedas that would identify the groups physically. And so, Müller tentatively interpreted nose-length as one such differentiating feature. 

 

Sir Herbert Hope Risley (1851–1911) was a powerful colonial bureaucrat at the Royal Anthropological Institute, and developed the Nasal Index based on Max Müller's speculation. This Nasal Index, much like Phrenology, became a tool of Race Science in an effort to classify the traits of Indian communities. During the four decades of his stay in India, Risley made an extensive study of Indian communities, based on the Nasal Index. His goal was to separate the Aryan communities from the non-Aryan communities. 

 

His taxonomical classification and massive documentation of Indian jatis froze the dynamic quality and mobility found in the jati system within the varna matrix.1 Various colonially inspired studies transformed jatis into racial categories rather than identities based on occupation. The Nasal Index not only separated the jatis into Aryan and non-Aryan, it also classified those considered non-Aryan as distinct from mainstream Hindu society. Risley compared the black plantation-workers in America with the so-called non-Aryan communities in India. This foreshadows the Afro-Dalit-Dravidian projects of today, which are essentially the expansion of Risley's project of ethnic fragmentation of India.

 

 

Rajiv Malhotra; Neelakandan, Aravindan (2011-04-12). Breaking India: Western Interventions in Dravidian and Dalit Faultlines

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 14:47 | Link to Comment overmedicatedun...
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vampy a little too much hubris, everyone does not enclude corzine and big banks, so get off the high horse.

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 19:01 | Link to Comment kalki1234
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... go back ...

You first!

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 14:46 | Link to Comment Overfed
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They'll have to start paying American programmers full price again. Can't have that now. /s

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 15:03 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Nah, they'll just line up the next batch of script kiddies to half-ass it, all while blaming it all on glitches.

After all, it isn't like there's any meaningful commerce left to support.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:51 | Link to Comment zerozulu
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Love affair with India was over the day bankers (i'm not antisystematic) found India is not going to be their escape destination when SHTF. Now should we remove "slum dog millionaire" billboard from Time-square?

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:51 | Link to Comment Harbanger
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It's actually consistent with this Admnistration's punishing of American allies and supporting of it's enemies.  The Obama administrations official position is that this is routine treatment of a foreign diplomat, no apology required.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:10 | Link to Comment TBT or not TBT
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Obama, undermining America worldwide.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:43 | Link to Comment insanelysane
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Not defending anything the Americans have done, but the India Minister might want to look into the roving gangs of rapists terrorizing his own country.

 

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:46 | Link to Comment akak
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I would think that the average Indian would be more concerned by their government's attacks on and suppression of their right to own gold than this very minor diplomatic bruhaha.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:26 | Link to Comment Ghordius
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the Indians I talk to are all quite upset, and don't see it as a very minor diplomatic bruhaha. in fact, they are mightily pissed off. no, not the average Indians, only part of the not insignificant diaspora of Indians living all over the globe (and travelling)

interestingly, a counterquestion to you, akak: who do you think has more influence, worldwide, the average American which does not travel and has no passport, or the roughly 6 millions that are abroad (not counting military)? just as a small reminder that every nation has it's diaspora, businesswise and ex-patwise

I still don't understand why they had to arrest her instead of calling for a meeting at the prosecutor's office. there must be a reason, but it escapes me, and this article does not help me

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:46 | Link to Comment Dark Space
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They should be quite upset, but the problem is broad and affects all Americans. She was arrested for filling out a form wrong and it carries a 5 year sentence, and the visa fraud carries a 10-year sentence - in what bizarro world do those sentences match the crime? Fill out a form wrong and you should pay a fine. Visa fraud should result in your expulsion from the country at absolute worst. To your point, the prosecutor likely could've have sent her an email and she would have voluntarily come to their office to discuss it and likely even turned herself in if ultimately charged (though she would not have been charged and diplomacy would have forced common sense into the equation).

However, this is not some scheme to pit the two countries against each other, as some others have suggested. We see it every day in America. In my state this week a swat team was serving a warrant on a prostitution charge, raided the wrong house and killed the family pets that were fenced in their back yard... In what bizarro world would ever send a cop to arrest a prostitute? Who cares, issue the warrant and the next time she gets pulled over for speeding pick her up - or legalize it, I don't care, this is either not a crime or a minor crime. Shoot a dog who is fenced in? WTF? Every week we see another report where swat teams are raiding homes and killing innocent people, destroying property, and killing all pets by default all in the name of serving warrants on extremely minor crimes. This is not moral. And its a complete waste of taxpayer dollars.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:08 | Link to Comment gmrpeabody
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Fill out the form wrong..., and it should be corrected.

No crime meant, no crime charged, and no fingers up their ass.

CHRIST America..., can you be this stupid?

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:52 | Link to Comment TBT or not TBT
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Yes, we can be. We had another fascist period under Wilson around a century ago. Scary part is now the technology and the far more pervasive government tentacles than existed then have permitted it to settle in for the full course. It can happen here, folks. When and if the regime throws out the constitution as we have under obama, Wilson, and FDR.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 14:40 | Link to Comment trader1
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the constitution is dead.  

 

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:21 | Link to Comment TBT or not TBT
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Elian Gonzalez. Gibson guitars. These are not atypical. The cases of preposterous militarized assault regarding nonviolent crime are legion now. The state wants you to know you are little people. Theyve got over ten thousand felonies defined, libraries of unreadable regulations for you to follow, millions of unelected unaccountable nforcers, massive spying apparatus, and courts where the prosecutor has got you fucked ahead of time, to make you plea bargain. Hardly any cases are tried anymore. The militarized cagouled assaults on accountants and families with small children is part of the show. So just submit already.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 17:25 | Link to Comment silvermail
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This is not moral.

It's just fascism.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:08 | Link to Comment RaceToTheBottom
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It is just another sign that America is sliding.  Treating this "diplomat" as an American used to be a treat for them.  We have slid somewhat since then....

Actually it might be a good sign.  No change will occur when Americans complain; Maybe TPTB will listen more when their profits via H1Bs, etc start getting affected by everyday attrocities that Americans now put up with.

PS, as for why the article did not answer your question, you should read who the author of the article is and his/her position.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:36 | Link to Comment TBT or not TBT
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The Indians you talk to may also be passionate about some events in cricket, Bollywood soaps, or whats up in their own life. They aren't changing their behavior over the rape-search of the diplomat one iota, probably.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 17:11 | Link to Comment isudas
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We do not have all the facts in this case.  One article said that the DA had informed the Indian side in September.  The domestic help had left back in June.  It is not a case of completing the form wrong, their was intent to deceive on the Indian side. Your reading an article written by a career Indian diplomat that is written to twist the case for his side.  She was in the USA to support the rights of Women while simultaneously cheating the very women she had in her home.  Tell her to leave the USA.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:47 | Link to Comment TerminalDebt
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Hide yo wife, hide yo kids 'cause they rapin' everybody...

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:58 | Link to Comment kralizec
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What did one caste society say to the other?

Look in the mirror, bitch!

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 14:26 | Link to Comment ronaldawg
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I want a lower caste girl to do my dishes and wash my clothes - I'll pay her double minimum wage - she has to have big titties though.

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 18:12 | Link to Comment kalki1234
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Plenty of those where you live.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:51 | Link to Comment Agent P
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This was definitely done on purpose for some other desired result (whatever that may be).  You don't get strip searched and corn-holed for underpaying a worker even if you don't have diplomatic immunity....though I hear Bill de Blasio is looking into making this standard procedure. 

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:41 | Link to Comment Grinder74
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Isn't there a Tom Clancy plot about a war with India???

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:47 | Link to Comment akak
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"The Sum of All Telephone Call Center Fears"

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:53 | Link to Comment Agent P
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"Hello, this is 'Steve'.  How may I help you?"

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:55 | Link to Comment zerozulu
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Hi, my name is Lincoln. How may I help you?

Ha, Licoln! who?

Abraheem Lincoln, Sir.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:56 | Link to Comment pupdog1
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On the left is a video of me writing to my congresscritter, taken by an NSA-cam somewhere in my office.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:43 | Link to Comment Tom_333
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I want to hear more about that Bharara guy. Let me gues...democrat...big political ambitions...

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:56 | Link to Comment Tom_333
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Gimmie the low-down ...the real dirt on the guy.Someone´s gotta know...NSA...?

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:39 | Link to Comment midtowng
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The real crime was the way she was treated by police - like a common American - with the unnecessary strip searches and cavity searches.

  These sorts of things should be against the law except in certain conditions.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:32 | Link to Comment Fish Gone Bad
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Until the US displays appropriate deference to the sensitivities, pride, and honor of other peoples and cultures, it will continue to be resented around the world.

Yeah, tell that to the american indians.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:44 | Link to Comment Spastica Rex
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Off script! Off script!

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:34 | Link to Comment ElvisDog
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Deference to cultural sensitivies, pride, and honor? Fuck that.  Here's the non-politically correct truth. Indians do a lot of stuff Americans think is stupid or weird (like praying to multi-armed elephant men). Americans do a lot of stuff Indians think is stupid or weird (tatooing, Miley Cyrus). We don't have to like or respect something we think is stupid. That's just how it is. 

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:07 | Link to Comment MeBizarro
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So who cares what their ridiculous beliefs are whether they are Hindu, Muslim, or Sikh.  There are plenty of b@tshit crazy religions in the US.  Hell, over 70% of evangelicals in the most recent Pew survey believe the world will end in their lifetimes and Jesus will return to Earth. 

The main cultural issue is that human life in India is cheap and if certain people die in India it means less than a cow doing.  There essentially worthless.  I have seen this first hand with people who get hit by cars in India and things going with a stop unless it significantly impedes traffic. 

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 19:12 | Link to Comment kalki1234
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...human life in India is cheap  ...

Western delusion: We are gods, there is a devil & the rest don't matter.

Kills a million Iraqi's & feels no remorse. 

Turns around and preaches "respect for life"

LOL

 

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:33 | Link to Comment Ghordius
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and here is another truth, don't know or care if PC or not: India under British hegemony already has undergone a huge adjustment of values and cultural habits

yet there is a difference between liking (or agreeing) and respecting. in fact, that's the whole point of tolerance

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:29 | Link to Comment TBT or not TBT
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Yeah, the common language there is English. They have a parliament. They have British legal traditions. Burning women alive is illegal. They care about brittish sports. But they don't get drunk and screw strangers on a regular basis,and they still have their own movies, theater, and pop stars, so there is still progress to be made.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 14:40 | Link to Comment ElvisDog
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If you mean by "respecting" that you don't impede them from doing whatever they want or publicly ridiculing them, then I agree. 

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:32 | Link to Comment Rainman
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India is a ' responsible nuclear power ', so its OK to piss them off.

 

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:36 | Link to Comment Ignatius
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I don't think America really wants to have a real discussion about how Pakistan and the AQ Khan network got 'the bomb'.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:34 | Link to Comment Stuck on Zero
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It's okay to pay less than the minimum wage in the us.  Just call your employee an: "intern."

 

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:34 | Link to Comment gratefultraveller
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Hybris...

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:34 | Link to Comment FLHRS
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Same over there.  Economy is floundering so they want to distract everyones attention.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:34 | Link to Comment yogibear
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Indian posturing. Means nothing.  India gets an enormous amount of business from the US.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:36 | Link to Comment Cast Iron Skillet
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oh, man! it sounds like they really hate us for our freedoms!

(actually, it sounds like they recognized U.S. behavior for what it really is)

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:35 | Link to Comment Canucklehead
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What is going through the heads of the Indians?  Don't they know the Americans fought a Civil War to end Slavery?

Pull diplomatic ties and watch India descend into the depths of the Dark Continent...

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:45 | Link to Comment Scarlett
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Are you a moron?  They have more gold tha the EU+USA COMBINED.  They can establish a gold-for-oil system others can't.  And war with India?  Talk about massive sabotage of US's technologies and 1Billion trrrts ready to go.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:09 | Link to Comment Canucklehead
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Anybody with any type of technical education has met/studied with/worked with Indian nationals.  Every one I met had stories of corruption/fraud/slavery being a normal business matter in India.  That was why they came to North America.

Indian individuals may have some gold but how will the country of India feed their people?  What will they trade for food, fuel and delivery?  If India (as a nation) steals Indian gold from individuals you will have a civil war over there.

Indian politics is all about feeding the barbaric beast.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:35 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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they need a trillion...US...just to rebuild the electrical grid. China has done its homework...although moving away from coal is going to be a real "bear" so to speak.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:49 | Link to Comment Canucklehead
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I suspect China will lead the charge in Thorium research.  As things stand, it appears the major technical problem is a materials problem related to high heat over a long period of time.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:32 | Link to Comment TBT or not TBT
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They aren't moving away from coal anytime soon.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:10 | Link to Comment MeBizarro
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What are you incoherently babbling about?

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 14:09 | Link to Comment RKDS
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And war with India?  Talk about massive sabotage of US's technologies and 1Billion trrrts ready to go.

 

The sabotage already happened.  It's called the H1B program.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:36 | Link to Comment jcaz
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This is really gonna mess up my Slurpee supply.....

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:36 | Link to Comment Spungo
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USA is starting to have the reputation of a shitty third world country.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:44 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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We're all wogs now.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:58 | Link to Comment cherry picker
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I live in a so called third world country and authorities are not near as heavy handed or go to jail types as up there.

The only thing the USA has in its favor is the perception it has money, liberty and compassion, not so much.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:59 | Link to Comment zerozulu
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"They" are working hard to create this reputation so "you" don't find any place in the world to escape.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:36 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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Quick!  Someone get Dennis Rodman on the phone!  Fixing this will be a slam dunk... /s

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 14:48 | Link to Comment kralizec
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Damn!  You almost owe me a new keyboard! 

Keep up the good work!  :)

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:37 | Link to Comment the not so migh...
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Yeah, your so civilized when China kicked your ass

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:43 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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Not gonna touch that.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:49 | Link to Comment akak
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You can touch it, just not the left hand.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:43 | Link to Comment Johnny Cocknballs
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That she was a diplomat, of sorts, only makes something already atrocious a little worse.

Fuck the diplomatic relations angle, cavity searches because she allegely underpaid a maid?  And we just accept this "it's part of procedure" bullshit?

Fuck this pussy ass pussy pansy fuck country - we all just keep bending over and getting fucked in the ass by thugs in uniform.  It's the federales, down to local police, most of whom now race their armored personnel carriers to be first in line to baton-fuck some local teens smoking a J.

It's the Israelification of the United States and its justice and law enforcement system, and it is very, very fucked up.

 

Also, and a little OT, but Indian porn is a goldmine for the discrerning gentleman.  It helps to be into hairy chicks, of course.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:21 | Link to Comment JR
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When our captured courts give police the ultimate authority, unwarranted strip searches (stripped naked for body cavity searches), that’s a police state.

And that’s exactly what the U.S. Supreme Court created in America when it okayed the ultimate indignity against humanity, i.e., strip searches of people suspected of minor offenses, such as running a stop sign or exercising an unleashed dog, or in this case, a contrived salary dispute.

How much more will Americans permit before they pull these rulers from their chairs and return this country to a civil society?

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:03 | Link to Comment zerozulu
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"They" know you can do nothing.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:44 | Link to Comment americanspirit
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Sooner or later India and Pakistan are going to nuke each other into oblivion but meanwhile everybody be nice.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:45 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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Oh brother. It's ironic that we are worrried about a diplomat under paying her house keeper by "our standards" when we exploit millions of workers crossing our southern border.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:05 | Link to Comment PrecipiceWatching
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Say what?

Who exploits whom?

Let us solve your problem, though:

 

How about these crimiinal invaders don't illegally cross our borders, so they cannot be "exploited" here in the first place.

We also keep our jobs, and avoiding expanding the ranks of the Free Shit Army ranks with millions of foreigners.

 

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 14:43 | Link to Comment Dr. Engali
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The only reason they are crossing the borders is because people are willing to use their labor in order to save money. You want to stop them from coming across the borders? Take away their incentive.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 14:51 | Link to Comment kralizec
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Yup, ruling class jackasses on the right like the cheap labor and ruling class jackasses on the left like their votes...

It's OK, GOP set to implode this year, so it's a race between full national collapse and a viable political alternative...

I'll put stacks on the former over the latter by 100:1.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:46 | Link to Comment nmewn
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I think strip searching her might have been just a tad over the top...lol.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:50 | Link to Comment Mad Mohel
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More like under the bottom. Zingggggg. I wonder if it smelled like curry. Powwwwww.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:53 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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I think they can do that at the USPO if you buy stamps now...

http://boingboing.net/2013/12/29/officer-who-forced-dozens-of-a.html

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:07 | Link to Comment zerozulu
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In a democratic system of government, you get what you vote for.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:52 | Link to Comment RaceToTheBottom
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The goal of those diplomats is to get the full American experience.  Glad we could help out....

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:46 | Link to Comment Lordflin
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This president, a Soros puppet, is following the Soros plan for dismantling a nation's currency. Part of the scheme involves separating said nation from it's friends while making it appear weak to it's enemies... a line right out of the Soros play book. And Soros puppet H. Clinton is waiting in the wings... assuming she is even necessary.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:02 | Link to Comment JustObserving
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The Ugly American has morphed into an Uglier Peeping Tom.

Where is the mention of the near infinite spying by the NSA on India (13.5 billion pieces of intelligence a month)?

Among the BRICS group of emerging nations, which featured quite high on the list of countries targeted by the secret surveillance programs of the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA) for collecting telephone data and internet records, India was the number one target of snooping by the American agency.

In the overall list of countries spied on by NSA programs, India stands at fifth place, with billions of pieces of information plucked from its telephone and internet networks just in 30 days

The DNI spokesman chose not to respond to questions about how the NSA managed to pick so much data from India — 13.5 billion pieces of information in just one month — especially from its telephone networks, and about whether it had received the cooperation of Indian telecom companies.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/india-among-top-targets-of-spying-by-nsa/article5157526.ece

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:51 | Link to Comment Seasmoke
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So she gets fingered by some American thugs....Better than being gang raped by Some Indian Thugs. 

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:02 | Link to Comment JustObserving
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Take this document from the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime. It shows 1.8 incidents of reported rape in India per 100,000 people in 2010 compared to 27.3 in the U.S

 

And don't forget the daily 220,000 rapes in prison in the US which never make it to official statistics

The problem is you take a first time offender and place in a jail cell with a hard core criminal offender, and things like rape happen almost 220,000 men in prison get raped on a daily basis; .

Very likley that rapes in India are underreported though.

http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2013/01/02/are-women-safer-in-india-or-the-u-s/

http://www.examiner.com/article/the-prison-system

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:11 | Link to Comment Canucklehead
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...If only the rest of the world had an efficient/effective Legal System like India...

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 22:35 | Link to Comment Milestones
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Love ur handle.                     Milestones

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:25 | Link to Comment 90's Child
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"220,000 rapes"

Is an extremely exaggerated number.

Roughly 10% of everyone in prison gets raped daily?

Rape in prison isn't something that's done the majority of the time on a sexual gratification basis, it's done for humiliation and authority.

Idk how many people you know that have been to prison and 'raped some dude' because they needed to get off but I'm gonna assume that number is zero.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:40 | Link to Comment Tortuga
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Seasmoke; absolutely, although it was a female TSA thug!

I believe the comments from her caste; govt bureaucrats; about the rape and murder of women in India, on a daily basis was;

"what difference does it make".

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:53 | Link to Comment Spungo
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She's not paying a high enough wage so we had to CAVITY SEARCH HER. Back where I come from, that's called rape or sexual assault.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:22 | Link to Comment DeadFred
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Where I come from we call that standard TSA protocol. Oops, I was looking at the 2015 TSA manual, my bad.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:54 | Link to Comment SilverFish
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The Indians gave us Tee Pees and Firewater. I have nothing bad to say about them.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:57 | Link to Comment akak
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Indian-American relations had been strengthening, owing to both sides’ shared commitment to democracy

ROFL!

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:59 | Link to Comment QQQBall
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Cavity search... that is way too much; wasn't like she was getting on a flight.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:59 | Link to Comment pupdog1
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Maybe all the half-priced Ph.D.s that are over here on GE/whore congressmen-sponsored Hadji-H1-B visas will be pissed off enough to go home.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:02 | Link to Comment SilverFish
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Great.

 

Who's gonna cure my sniffles now?

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:11 | Link to Comment pupdog1
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Or sell you slurpee, my goodness my gracious me...

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:15 | Link to Comment Fíréan
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USA wanted to over-see/intermediate talks between India and  Pakistan on Kashmir and India wouldn have that intervention, flipped the proverbial finger to USA.

Can't  re-find the link to an excellent recenly posted or (linked to a rediff blog)  in ATimes.com on this very matter and fuller perspective.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:05 | Link to Comment Que Sara Sara
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It's called false pride!

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:07 | Link to Comment Magnum
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Rotten police in USA if you think this can not happen to you for no reason, think again.

On a good note, now maybe fewer Indians will come to USA to write shit software, as is the case at Microsoft which was once a great company before they hired thousands of non-creative, ineffective Indians to ruin the deal.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:20 | Link to Comment Mad Mohel
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About the programming comment, as opposed to who? They should hire stupid fat bastards that can't even spell their tattoos correctly? It seems you are insulated from the American general population. A frialator is about the extent of the technological capabilities.

I upped you for the cop comment.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:55 | Link to Comment PrecipiceWatching
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And specifically what "general American population" are you basing your abjectly ignorant, crudely hilarious, broad brush comments on?

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:11 | Link to Comment Magnum
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For a time Indian programmers were all the rage and they enjoyed carte blanche access to all the big software companies, and Msft really took the bait & what it seems is that 95% of everyone writing code at MSFT is from India.  We now know how that turned out.  Ever hired an Indian programmer?  Frankly it seems they are not very good at creative solutions.  Russians, Europeans, even down in Argentina, hire them and you get real software.  Hire Indians for software jobs, your company dies.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:08 | Link to Comment JR
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Ugly American? That’s somebody else, i.e., the pushers in the palace revolt who used events such as 9/11 to begin their official police state and reversal of America’s founding culture. The news, as we all know, is full of examples of the real Ugly Americans, namely the power-hungry usurpers of America’s former republic.

Consider this example of the betrayal of America’s representative form of government, replaced by a one-party oligarchy (in this case the sellout of fundamental principles by the Republican Establishment):

Republicans Help Georgia Democratic Senate Candidate Michelle Nunn | Breitbart | 6 Jan 2014

If one ever needed proof that establishment Republicans and Democrats amount to one party rule in Washington, look no further than this story.

Former Republican Senator Richard Lugar’s leadership political action committee, The 19th Star PAC, sent $5,000 on Dec. 12 to Democrat Michelle Nunn, who will face the winner of the Republican primary for Saxby Chambliss's seat. Chambliss, a Republican, is retiring.

Nunn also received a donation from another Republican, former Virginia Senator, John Warner. 

Lugar's PAC has also been busy in some primary races, backing establishment Republican candidates, of course. Some might suggest this is simply more proof that many long-in-the-tooth establishment Republicans have more in common with their Democrat colleagues in Washington, D.C., than they do with the GOP's conservative base. 

Lugar’s PAC also made donations in November and December to Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, Minority Whip John Cornyn of Texas, Lamar Alexander of Tennessee, Thad Cochran of Mississippi, Susan Collins of Maine, Mike Enzi of Wyoming and Pat Roberts of Kansas.

All were facing challenges in the Republican primary at the time of the donations.

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/01/06/Lugar-s-Pack-Other-Republicans-Help-Democrat-Michelle-Nunn

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 14:45 | Link to Comment trader1
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i hope that you didn't just now arrive at this epiphany...

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:22 | Link to Comment Lucius Corneliu...
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Tell the Indians to start buying our military products and allow unfettered access to their markets then we will talk.  The Indians have never been friendly to the USA (who did they support during the cold war?) so why should we give a shit about what they think?  Simply put, we don't need India but they need us.  I have been there, it is the most backwards, corrupt, broken nation on earth.  The fact is this so-called diplomat broke several of our laws including visa fraud.  It is beyond the comprehension of upper caste Indians such as this one to ever have to actually obey the law.  That is what their press is moaning about.  It is a circling of the wagons amongst the upper caste.  Tell the Indians to fuck off or we will cut the H1-b quota.  We don't need them.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:35 | Link to Comment Tortuga
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Lucius; Damn right!

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:49 | Link to Comment JR
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First, insult their dignity; then, classify them as less than an average American; then get the banker media to make fun of them and dehumanize them. Then, they can be tortured, poked, spit on, jailed and droned, if necessary. This is actually the way that the occupying Israelis have classifised the Palestinian people, as being unequal in the land in which they were born.

Just what does status in this case have to do with human treatment? And what do injustice and police brutality have to do with international relations?

The philosophy that some people don’t deserve equal humanitarian treatment is contrary to the society established by our Founders: namely, that all are equal under the law.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:23 | Link to Comment MeBizarro
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Indian gov't and its officials are right to be regally pissed about how their diplomat was treated in his manner.  Basically all due to one overly zealous idiotic official here in the US. 

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:41 | Link to Comment Lucius Corneliu...
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An "overly zealous" official in the USA is one who actually does their job and prosecutes criminal behaviour.  You would be hard pressed to find any public official in India who does their job; maybe that is why the Indians are so perplexed.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:13 | Link to Comment Terminus C
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This issue is not about "following the law" because if the cops were following the law the would not have strip/cavity searched this person for the alleged crime.  What evidence of underpayment would you find in her vagina or anus?  This is about the police of the United States intimidating American citizens (if we'll do this to a "high ranking" diplomat, imagine what we'll do to you little pleb).

Of course, you may be the enemy.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:00 | Link to Comment Mercury
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Until the US displays appropriate deference to the sensitivities, pride, and honor of other peoples and cultures, it will continue to be resented around the world.

Even when foreigners are on US soil? Why?

Should Americans do as the Romans do when in Rome or does that only work one way?

The incident in question is actually a well-known grey area of "diplomatic immunity" law but since this isn't the thrust of the author's complaint I too will skip up to the broader issue.

US minimum wage laws may be stupid or misguided but they are the law and contrary to what Obama may have led you to believe you aren't supposed to be able to just wave your wand to change them as whim dictates or to decide which ones should be enforced or not today.

Where are you going to draw the line Sashi? - above or below 11 year-old concubines traveling in the company of foreign dignitaries?

FYI: The Dred Scott verdict appealed to the sensitivities of another culture too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford

...and all we got was that lousy civil war.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:16 | Link to Comment Terminus C
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Again, I don't think most people have a problem with the charges...  We are talking about the response of US "law" enforcement.  They are currently "strip and cavity searching" the Constitution.

Keep your eyes on the ball.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:34 | Link to Comment Mercury
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I'm not contesting what "most people" have a problem with I'm contesting what the author has a problem with as outlined in this article.

You may be concerned about the "strip and cavity searching" of the the Constitution but the author is concerned about "deference to the sensitivities, pride, and honor of other peoples and cultures".

Keep your eyes on the ball indeed.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:09 | Link to Comment falak pema
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the word "return" is beyond my comprehension. Given that the US is puppet master for Pak/afgh since 1977 and Zia coup in Pakistan, how do you qualify a country/admin/MIC that has its finger in every pie in the region; from infrastructure to banking to MIC plays to oil supply dictats?

Not to talk about that gorilla in the china shop called "Oligarchy outsourcing" that has the Indian elites all part of the Davos gang. 

State side bullying is the norm; but Oligarchy side cooperation is the hidden face of this game.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:44 | Link to Comment RaceToTheBottom
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Ugly American VS the Ugly Indian.

Grudge match at 11.

 

Why don't we just agree that the UGLY applies to all governments

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:47 | Link to Comment ZeroPoint
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Relations are strengthening??????

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:49 | Link to Comment PrecipiceWatching
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I wish America would once and for all bring home our troops and our money and let the rest of the world fend for itself.

I mean ALL of it, including the asymmetrical aid given to our most trusted....ahem....allies.

Let the smug, anti-American crowd see just how "ugly" things can be without America playing a major role on the world stage.

We need to start addressing our our domestic concerns anyway, starting with the criminal political culture infesting Washington DC.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:43 | Link to Comment Parth
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I just got back from India visiting family. Nobody even cares about this. The issue now on the news is the elections. In fact generally people in India are quite pleased to see "prominent" Indians get punished by America. In fact thats why the current government is set to lose elections. Too much corruption and buddy system.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 14:07 | Link to Comment SilverFish
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"Too much corruption and buddy system."

 

Yeah, that's what happens when you give one group of people power and control over another group of people.

 

Your "new" government, assuming they win, will end up just the same as the ones you threw out.

 

 

How many times do people have to hit themselves in the face with the back end of a hammer before they realize that they shouldn't hit themselves in the face with the back end of a hammer? I guess we'll never know.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 14:37 | Link to Comment cashtoash
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Oh Boy! This post really ignited some passions. Haven't seen so many remarks to a post on ZH as this one. But everyone missed the real cause.  US kept telling India not to buy Irania oil, and India did not listen. That is all this was about.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 14:53 | Link to Comment Cornholiovanderbilt
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Has the shale boom at home allowed TPTB to turn there focus on the truly repressed resource of the world? Can it be true that we are about to liberate gold from 3rd word hell holes?

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 14:59 | Link to Comment Ranger_Will
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Uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh
Johnny's in America
No tricks at the wheel
Uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh
Nobody needs anyone
They don't even just pretend
Uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh
Johnny's in America

[CHORUS]
I'm afraid of Americans
I'm afraid of the world
I'm afraid I can't help it
I'm afraid I can't
I'm afraid of Americans

Johnny's in America
Uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh

Johnny wants a plane
Johnny wants to suck on a Coke
Johnny wants a woman
Johnny wants to think of a joke
Uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh
Johnny's in America
Uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh

[CHORUS]

I'm afraid of Americans
Uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh

Johnny's in America
Johnny looks up at the stars
Johnny combs his hair
And Johnny wants pussy in cars
Johnny's in America, uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh
I'm afraid of Americans

God is an American
God is an American

[CHORUS]
Yeah, I'm afraid of Americans
I'm afraid of the words
I'm afraid I can't help it
I'm afraid I can't
I'm afraid of Americans

Johnny's an American
Johnny's an American
Johnny's an American, uh-uh-uh uh, uh, uh-uh uh-uh-uh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slKNd22GGaQ

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 15:11 | Link to Comment h0oS
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I can't believe how fucking stupid this saga is. Unfucking believable. Loosing India over the ambitions of a what seems to be an idiot with a grudge to bear. Americans will burn because of this, maybe not in India, but they'll burn over this.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 16:25 | Link to Comment ich1baN
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Ah, what a myth.... there are already enough US graduate alone in computer science and graphics to do these jobs. That tired old myth still is haggling around.

Illluminati is at work even in the government of India.

When will you see it isn't America you should hate, but the people who have taken over and are destroying what our Founding Fathers created.

The problem is that we need to go back to our roots and learn the wisdom of Adam Smith and enlightened self interests from his most important work "Theory of Moral Sentiments". We could go for the highest GDP gains and end up socially deplorable where kids start selling kidneys for Iphones like in China. DC could become the rape capital of the world like Mumbai, India.

Or we could have 2.9 million slaves like China or the 13 million slaves in India..... Open your mind. The whole world is run by Satan. Don't be blind. 

China executes more people every year than ALL countries combined, and the US sends its pornography and pro-gay and pro-diversity agendas throughout the world.

We are so deluded, slothful, and lustful, its sickening. This whole world has nothing but total corrupt sycophants at the top IN every country. It isn't just the US. It's everywhere and its metastasized like a cancer because everywhere the lure of socialism still wreaks havoc and on the other side of the coin the deplorable pleasures of 100% consumerist mindsights gives lustful and idolistic Gods of Gadgets.

What a backward people we can be.

2 Corinthians 4:4

The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Satan's scheme includes promoting false philosophies in the world—philosophies that blind the unbeliever to the truth of the Gospel. Satan’s philosophies are the fortresses in which people are imprisoned, and they must be set free by Christ.

This is what I'm trying to get you to see, that the Masons are his Global hidden organization used to implement his devious plan.
Do you really believe that the 7 Nations that attacked Israel and tried to wipe them off the earth did it randomly? The answer is no, Satan used these nations to try and destroy God's plan for salvation in the first 6 and he used Nazi Germany to destroy God's redemption plan for his 2nd Coming, because Satan thought if there were no Jews, then God has no reason to come back.

1)Egypt
2)Assyria 3)Babylon 4)Medo-Persia 5)Greece
6)Rome
7)Nazi Germany

Satan's main tool now is his push for this 1 world religion through his global elite groups like Freemasons and Club of Rome and even Nations, and I don't know specifically how he will implement it, but when I see the signs I at least will be 1 christian not being deceived ( I am telling you, so you won't either) I mean it is not that hard to find out that Freemasons today openly worship Satan at the highest levels. 

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 01:27 | Link to Comment chindit13
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A review of all the publicly available information surrounding this case paints a very different picture than that written by Shashi Tharoor.

Shashi Tharoor doesn’t speak with people outside of his caste, so his opinions should be considered only within that narrow framework of his carefully filtered existence.  Despite his previous work with that 40% US-funded, useless stomping ground of the international irrelevant and accredited boondogglers (aka The United Nations), he is wrong about Ms. Khobragade’s status while posted as an observer to the General Assembly.  Perhaps Mr. Tharoor should go back and read the UN bylaws, which quite clearly do not bestow upon her immunity.  That privilege is reserved for fully accredited UN staff, not for those temporarily seconded while the General Assembly is in session.

What has the Indian MEA and people like Shashi Tharoor so “outraged” is that the US periodically treats all people equally.  “Periodically”, as bad as that is, is in stark contrast to Indian society, where the corresponding term is “never”.  Privilege in India generally comes from birth, though in a few rare instances it can be granted even to the occasional lower caste member, such as this “diplomat” and her family.  That is why her father remains free and out of jail despite a life of (alleged) corruption, which is to say engaging in business as usual in India.  Shed not a tear for this woman, or for her father and his threatened hunger strike, as she already has plenty of ill-gotten gains to return to in her native land.

The Indians first tried to stop the case not by appealing to the USG, but rather by intimidating the maid’s family in India, “advising” the family to have the maid drop the charges.  Apparently that is Indian-style “rule of law”.  In a sidenote, the outrage over the strip search (there was no cavity search…the MEA made that up), the Indian Government itself released figures in 2010 saying that since the turn of the new century, more than 200,000 Indians died while in police custody awaiting trial.  Since most all were lower caste or Moslem, the data only has value to India as a bureaucratic curiosity.  Taking to task an elite person for abusing her household staff and for visa fraud, however, is an “outrage”.

The investigation was carried out over many months, and the MEA was informed all along the way.  Rather than recall the woman, as happens in virtually all criminal cases in which a diplomat is involved, the MEA chose to send a message than in Indian culture, it is the prerogative of the elite to abuse lower caste individuals in any way they wish.  It was that arrogance and intransigence that culminated in the eventual arrest.

A miffed Indian MEA is fighting back in the only way it knows how, which is to say with childish arrogance and vindictiveness.  The reason it is trying to pretend the granting of observer status at the UN GA grants Khobragade immunity is because the MEA is well aware that according to the Vienna Convention diplomats serving in Consulates, as opposed to Embassies, have immunity only when in the course of doing their work.  Outside of work, they are liable just as any private citizen.  That Preet Bharara is an ethnic-Indian is just additional salt in the wound.  The MEA thinks he should know better than to think the elite are part of the great unwashed masses, equal under the law and all that rubbish.  Worse still, Bharara is married to a Moslem.  His marriage probably was not arranged, which is yet another cultural slap in the face.

So how is the MEA behaving?  It instructed the Delhi municipality to remove security barriers from around the US Embassy in Delhi, despite numerous threats.  The MEA also wants to find a way to use India’s recently struck down law that had made homosexuality non-criminal to “catch” any US Consulate personnel who might have a same sex lover.  Of course this would mean the Indian government would have to install recording equipment in the bedrooms of Consular staff in order to catch them in flagrante delicto, but there is no such thing as going too far when the entire concept of privilege and superiority by birth or bestowal---which has been the core of Indian social fabric for four thousand years---might be impinged.   Heaven forbid the lower castes might dare to consider themselves equal with the Brahmins and other high castes, especially when there’s an upcoming election where the Brahmin-heavy BJP is expected to win and Moslem-hating Narendra Modi, who allowed a massacre of thousands of Moslems in his Gujarat state a decade ago, stands to become the new Prime Minister.  Modi is to Gujarat what Bal Thackeray was to Maharastra and Mumbai.

One might give the MEA the benefit of the doubt and accept that in India crime of any nature is rarely punished.  For example, in a city of 20 million (Delhi), where violent rapes and gang rapes are a daily if not hourly occurrence, a total of one rape conviction occurred in 2012.  Women who report rapes to the police often have the crime ‘re-enacted’ at the police station, at least when the women are not forced to make tea and clean the station.

Of course the US could play child, too, like the MEA, and take steps to counter India’s reaction.  For example, the US could announce a major arms deal with Pakistan.  It could approach China and ask China to back off the Daioyou/Senkaku issue in exchange for the US completely ignoring India’s ongoing battle with China over disputed boundaries, which would allow China greater access to more dam-able rivers for badly needed power generation.

All of this is a bit of a sideshow, as the next few years will bring major changes to South Asia.  With Modi’s election still pretty much assured---to rig a vote is as old as the Rig Veda in India---the likelihood of a nuclear exchange between Moslem Pakistan and the virulently pro-Hindu Modi Government is about 40% over the next decade.  The Age of Kali is upon us….or them.

I’ll bet Shashi Tharoor will be quite happy to sit that war out within the borders of the US amidst those “ugly Americans”.

 

Mon, 03/03/2014 - 22:52 | Link to Comment kalki1234
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the likelihood of a nuclear exchange between USSA and the virulently pro-USSR Putin Government is about 40% over the next decade.  The Age of Kali is upon us….or them.

 

I’ll bet Shashi Tharoor will be quite happy to sit that war out within the borders of the India away from those “ugly Americans”.

 


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