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Japan Plans To "Nationalize" 280 More "Ownership-Unknown" Islands

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15 months after acquiring three disputed islands in the Senkakus, and amid growing tensions with the Chinese following tit-for-tat air-defense zones, Abe's visit to the war-shrine, and public-opinion battles; Japan may have just cranked the rhetoric dial to 11. As Japan Times reports, the Japanese government will nationalize about 280 islands whose ownership is unknown out of the about 400 remote islands that serve as markers for determining Japan’s territorial waters.

Under the plan, announced Tuesday, the government will complete its search for the islands’ owners (which began in August) by June. This follows already tense warnings this evening from China that "Japan's moving in a dangerous direction."

It seems the Abe nationalism fears were not exaggerated.

 

Via Japan Times,

The government will nationalize about 280 islands whose ownership is unknown out of the about 400 remote islands that serve as markers for determining Japan’s territorial waters, the state minister for oceanic policy and territorial issues has announced.

 

Under the plan, announced Tuesday, the government will complete its search for the islands’ owners by June. Islands whose owners have not been tracked down by then will be registered on the national asset ledger.

 

The move aims to clarify the government’s intention to protect territories and territorial waters by designating remote islands as “important national territories,” and to reinforce the management of marine resources and national security.

 

The search for owners was started in August last year by the Headquarters for Ocean Policy, led by Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.

 

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Registering [remote islands] as Japan’s national assets would send a message that we intend to strengthen management of them,” Ichita Yamamoto, the state minister for oceanic policy and territorial issues, said at a press conference. “The government must accurately grasp the state of these remote islands.”

 

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About 500 islands serve as the base points for establishing Japan’s territorial waters and exclusive economic zone. However, information about some of the islands, including their owners, has yet to be confirmed.

This won't end well... especially with the Koreans now openly decrying the monetary policies of the Japanese also...

 


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Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:15 | Link to Comment VD
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Abenomikz = war

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:22 | Link to Comment The Gooch
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It's a Missing Person's song. Or was it Ruins?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6vmdeuAmc4

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:28 | Link to Comment VD
Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:30 | Link to Comment wee-weed up
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Woar, bitches!

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:32 | Link to Comment VD
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moar woar

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 07:17 | Link to Comment old naughty
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as many as possible...as far away from fuk-u as possible...

mass migration needs for 127.6 million (2012 census).

Sun rises no moar.

 

Mon, 01/13/2014 - 16:10 | Link to Comment MedTechEntrepreneur
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  • The Kyle Bass moment has arrived. "War is the manifestation of simple economic entropy played to its logical conclusion "..
Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:55 | Link to Comment The Gooch
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That's like a Yakuza, homeless-labor version of "Working Man" by Rush.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:29 | Link to Comment PT
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For an island men would... nope, hang on.
For a dormant volcano, that might sink tomorrow, men would kill
Why? They do not know

No.  That doesn't work either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg92QpjRcJk
 

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:43 | Link to Comment JackWills
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Just like they NATIONALIZED Manchuria before WW2.  I guess they will need those islands for living space once the main Islands are uninhabitable.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 03:43 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 VD. We.all start  from a defining point in life.

  You really are a child, that never found it's way. I have to give Francis a lot of credit for that insight.

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:18 | Link to Comment NoDebt
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I think we are witnessing the point at which economic policy failures require a war to distract.

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:51 | Link to Comment Grande Tetons
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I am not sure how you could get down voted for that comment.  Nothing controversial...unless the voters du jour are living in lala land. 

Nevermind...I forgot...lala land is real. Maybe it is an island....a Japaneses island. 

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:42 | Link to Comment PT
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Firstly, disclaimer - I know next to nothing about the Chinese / Japanese region and its history.
But ...

How about, the islands are sovereign entities?  How about, if an island is empty then no-one owns it?  First one in stakes their claim.  How about, if you don't use it then you lose it?  You want an island?  Go live there.

Yes, I know, it's too simple.

Repeat disclaimer:  I know nothing.  But I am open to education. 

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 04:12 | Link to Comment Zero Point
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Hence the "search" for owners.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:18 | Link to Comment dick cheneys ghost
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currency wars.....

~~~

CIA fingerprints are all over this...........

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 02:01 | Link to Comment secured_party-c...
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Business as usual

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 15:34 | Link to Comment Martel
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...witnessing the point at which economic policy failures require a war to distract.

True, and applies to China as well. Perhaps the USA too, but the eurozone is too weak to fight.

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:18 | Link to Comment stock trout
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Didn't we go thru this in the early 1930's? I hope we don't stand down for a Pearl Harbor attack again. 

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 06:46 | Link to Comment Winston Churchill
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Luckily the Germans are not involved.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 15:37 | Link to Comment Martel
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That's what you think. There ain't no Blitzkrieg like Frau Merkel's Blitzkrieg.

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:21 | Link to Comment suteibu
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I have been saying it from the beginning...Abe is a dangerous useful idiot for a group of men who long for the days of imperialism. 

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:48 | Link to Comment Grande Tetons
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Toss in Obama into the useless idiot pile while you are at it. Toss in DC at the same time. Pretty big fucking pile of idiots you got there. 

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:51 | Link to Comment suteibu
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No argument there.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:00 | Link to Comment Grande Tetons
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If we keep adding idiots, the pile will rival the size of Mt. Fuji. 

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:25 | Link to Comment JustObserving
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We need all the islands we can get as Fukushima poisons our main island.

The Russians will not even take our used cars as they are radioactive.

 

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 14:17 | Link to Comment SDShack
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Sum Ting Wong

We Tu Lo (on islands)

Ho Lee Fuk

Frash Bang Glow

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:28 | Link to Comment Josh Randall
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Hope Putin decides to claim these islands as well

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 09:48 | Link to Comment kralizec
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Anybody can play this game!

Try it!

Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine!

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:29 | Link to Comment Count of Lastovo
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Things said right before world war III.... 

"Hey, do you think we should take Taiwan off this list of 280 islands"

"Nah, China won't care".

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:30 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:18 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 Abe and his Hoodlems will fail!

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 02:23 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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WB7. Beautiful work. I would have used a VW beetle. Winks 

 

 

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:37 | Link to Comment Yenbot
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It seems the Abe nationalism fears were not exaggerated.

That's crap. These are islands within Japanese territorial waters. Look at a map of US territorial waters. No Chinese islands there, eh?

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:13 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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They are not within Japanese territorial waters if they are Chinese or Taiwanese islands.

If China discovered them, one would think that they are theirs unless they gave them to Japan.

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:39 | Link to Comment Zero Point
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China raising their hands as the owners in 3..2...

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:39 | Link to Comment deepsouthdoug
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"Will complete the search for the owners in June." Hmm......what happened 100 years ago in June, 1914?

Oh yeah, Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria was assassinated.

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:40 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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this is truly disgusting satire. i really can't help laugh out loud...just as much as you and I being friends I guess "the point is all too clear" actually. And yes "the warship as proof of ownership" is on the table. http://www.debate.org/debates/Abraham-Lincoln-was-one-of-the-worst-presi... peace out...

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:44 | Link to Comment Son of Captain Nemo
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"the Japanese government will nationalize about 280 islands whose ownership is unknown out of the about 400 remote islands that serve as markers for determining Japan’s territorial waters'...

Wonder how many of those 280 islands will become new shelters? 

It just goes to show you how truly mad this world has gotten when a government and economy like Japan's is on the brink of absolute oblivion along with the U.S. and is ratcheting up the war rhetoric with it's biggest trading partner while telling the neighborhood "all is well" and that they have nothing to fear! As they dump trillions of becquerels into the Pacific Ocean?

After nearly 3 years of it getting worse what could go wrong?  After all they may need those islands to relocate 110 million inhabitants when the rest of it they are living on becomes uninhabitable.

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:49 | Link to Comment JackWills
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Me thinks the gameplan is to break up China (Russia also if possible)  into several digestible pieces, dont be surprised to see Manchuria or Russian Far East in the future with sizeable Japanese cities.

Something will go down in the next few years, you can bet on it.  Russia would be the most desirable, phenomenal resources and small population in the Far East.  China would be broken up so it can't be competing for the Russian resources grab.  Russia broken up and all that Arctic and Siberian oil is for the taking.  Truly the Great Game is still on baby!!!!

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:50 | Link to Comment DoChenRollingBearing
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Who is going to break up China and Russia?  Ahh, I just don't see it.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:17 | Link to Comment Anusocracy
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Ya, sizeable Japanese cities populated with inflatable dolls.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:54 | Link to Comment secured_party-c...
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It worked for General Patton in Africa...

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:52 | Link to Comment secured_party-c...
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Only one breaking up China and Russia is China and Russia.. That's the only reason they don't bother us... Russia thinks back to non aggression pact days with Germany... China trust no Europeans... They are both too powerful especially being on each other's back door.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 02:07 | Link to Comment JackWills
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I dont know about that, dont underestimate TPTB ability to generate spring and color revolutions.  Putin stuck his neck out too far with the Olympics.  The West let him have them, they are going to set him up for some real terrorist action, enough to embarass him in the eyes of the Russian people and destroy his good standing forever.   With Putin out of the way the western banking cartel and intelligence agencies can get back to the Yeltsin days and see Russia off with independence drives in several important regions.  No country is stable internally, look at independece drives within Spain and England, even in USA Texas and the South would still like to leave once in a while.  All those bullets bought by the DHS are to make sure people stay in line.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 02:57 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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NOTHING SURVIVES THE FIRST POINT OF CONTACT. once everyone is locked into to their positions "they're locked and loaded too." wanna see 500 million boat people? that's what this thing means...and unlike Europe which parked all their monies in the USA for the duration of WWII...this allowing them to rebuild after the greatest global cataclysm in history...that won't happen if this thing goes hot. talk about an all out brawl. other than securing Pearl, Australia and the Panama Canal that's about it from the USA perspective. And yes "this will involve India and Thailand too." My guess is that the USA will set of very strong basing relationships with Indonesia to protect their vital interests in their country...but if this thing blows it will look like nothing other...and will almost certainly involve Moscow as a war aim. China has the most to gain by launching a first strike...if I were to hazard a guess it would be Burma "in an aggressive attempt to secure bases in the Indian Ocean "and spread their Navy out that way." They have never launched a campaign of naked aggression before (unlike Germany...a specialty of their's actually) ...the blowback would be stupendous of course...but as Stalin said "how many divisions have he?" the battle between India and China's Air Forces would be epic under this scenario...and those two Navies would meet in the South China Sea for a real showdown. this would be more than sufficient to get the draft boards underway as we have a significant presence in the Islands of Guam and Tokyo. The USA will base itself out of Western Australia with a force of "statistical significance." (millions.) We will not let either side lay a glove on Indonesia. "that's America's strategic asset in the region" and a very good friend I might add. The build up of forces between Russia, China and Japan could be "statistically significant" as well. Don't worry..."we're just sitting ducks" over there. Like the Marines on the Island of Midway who's last words were "come and get it bitch" I believe.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 03:05 | Link to Comment secured_party-c...
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My point was just because Russia and China may conduct military operations together you better believe behind closed doors they don't trust one another...

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 03:11 | Link to Comment secured_party-c...
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Your analysis very insightful and in depth... Great read... Gives me different perspective on Indonesia ...

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 11:04 | Link to Comment Son of Captain Nemo
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Yep.  The U.S. Gov wants it so bad that they are thinking like it's 1990 but their reality is 2014...  After 12 years of destabilizing the entire middle east and ou rmilitary in the worst shape in it's history "waiting for the dust to settle" so they can make oil prosperous they got absolutely nothing to show for it except the transactions in USD.  China gets most if not all of the resources in the end run.

"Russia broken up and all that Arctic and Siberian oil is for the taking"...  Wake up cause you're fucking dreaming!

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:47 | Link to Comment JamesBond
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I own three of them.  Swam there as a kid.  Carved my initials in a rock.

Show me the money.

 

jb

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:13 | Link to Comment jcfh
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Sounds normal. Tying up loose ends. If you have a belligerent neighbor, it serves to at least state the boundaries. Possession is the 95% of the game.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:27 | Link to Comment yogibear
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First currency wars, then real wars.

A different twist to the 1930s. China was acting like Japan of the 1930's. A new industrial nation and a young super power. 

China is also looking for a reason to go to war. A great distraction.

We have yet to see how crazy this will get. Each moving closer to a breaking point.

 

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 07:09 | Link to Comment Azannoth
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As the social, political and economic pressures build, both countries will find more more "reasons" to go to war, in 5-10 years it might actually happen.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 07:27 | Link to Comment Ghordius
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the groups involved aren't trying to find reasons to go to war. they are trying to build up - though age old saber rattling - reasons to spend moar, or at least as much as usual, for weapons

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 10:13 | Link to Comment Joenobody12
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Chins does not want war, it wants money. Pull your head from your assand you will see the world differently.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:05 | Link to Comment lewietheparrot
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Souds like Japan's own islands will have to be abandoned.

Or sold to TEPCO.

Panic time in Tokyo?

Olympics in the old Japan?

Must be pretty bad to do something so extreme.

Big stuff when you go this far beyond

 

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:15 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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  The world keeps spinning/  Bitchez

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:19 | Link to Comment pupdog1
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Don't mess with the island owned by Han.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:31 | Link to Comment They Tried to S...
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Abe's Hail Mary Pass is not trying to turn around the economy ( as everyone knows this is impossible) 

 

Its to lure China into attacking them.....

 

This is the only way Japan can then issue 50% tax rates on everyone, institute Martial Law, ask for citizen sacrifices, take everyone's mind off the Radiation and still get support from the US....

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:37 | Link to Comment Bunga Bunga
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Wait till they find oil in the Himalayas.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:49 | Link to Comment akak
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We must brob-up those isrands into the Neo-Gleatel East Asian Co-Ploselity Sphele!

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 03:27 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 Let me know when you need a C-130 full of Duraflames ™.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 03:31 | Link to Comment akak
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My local airport can't handle a C-130 --- better bring them in mulitple loads by chopper.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 03:45 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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 You must be happy. Mild winter. Lucky dog.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 04:17 | Link to Comment Ghordius
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akak, are you sure? your local airport must be tiny and very, very constricted. a C-130 "Hercules" can land nearly everywhere and on cross-country. or on a carrier... without hook

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 14:27 | Link to Comment akak
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Actually, I was just guessing Ghordius.  I've watched C-130s landing many times, but it would still probably be a very close thing at my local GA airport.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 02:35 | Link to Comment Joe A
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Well, they gonna have to relocate people from the Tokyo area somewhere. This nationalist government is on the war path.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 03:46 | Link to Comment Sudden Debt
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400 islands.... so what stands in buying a boat, land on those islands and call them "THE REPUPLIC OF DEBT"

and claim them for myself?

than I take a loan, print my own money, GET RICH BITCHEZ!!!

MY OWN CURRENCY!!! AAAARRRRHH AWESOME!!!!

MY OWN NATIONAL ANTHEM!!!!

MY OWN PIRATE FLAG!!!

HOW COOL WOULD THAT BE!!!

 

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 07:21 | Link to Comment scatterbrains
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Be careful though, niggas be shrinkin heads on some of those lost islands.

 

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 03:50 | Link to Comment DeliciousSteak
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China is growing and their military is improving. Japan has two options: 1) bend over and spread asscheeks or 2) assert your position, counter Chinese expansionism and stand firm.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 03:58 | Link to Comment Yenbot
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That's one option. And it ain't bend over...

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 09:58 | Link to Comment Joenobody12
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Little Japanese who lie to themselves about history is both pathetic and desrve not to survive. Kick them out of the human race. 

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 10:08 | Link to Comment Joenobody12
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Your Island country has been bending over for the US GI to screw again and again. First they nuked you and then the station their GI in your little country and have fun with your school girls. You dare not say anything to the US so you try to take out your frustration on China. Remilitarizing your country will not gain you any respect in Asia. They nowall screwed by your Fukushima disaster which you do nothing to stop . Soon the oxygen-generating algae in the ocean will die off and the whole world will go extinct with you mother fuckers. 

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 05:18 | Link to Comment Debugas
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after Fukushima disaster Japan had run out of Lebensraum...

It is tragic indeed

 

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 07:26 | Link to Comment PT
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After Fukushima disaster, radioactive Japan has nothing left to lose.  Waddya gonna do?  Kill 'em?

 

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 09:16 | Link to Comment Beau Tox
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You can kill them, but you can't eat them.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 09:26 | Link to Comment Beau Tox
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I would like to understand exactly what is behind the Japanese death-wish.  The young don't want to have sex.  The old don't mind radioactive sushi.  The Abe government draws its bamboo practice swords to spar with Chinese steel.  Is it that the Japanese language is so different, that the people are afraid to emigrate, for fear of English or Spanish?  We could certainly use some Japanese farming families over here in Louisiana. Japan seems to be a doomed island, a sinking ship. Wouldn't it be prudent for educated families to escape to other, more spacious and less polluted climes?

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 14:44 | Link to Comment PT
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I have had the privilege of meeting both Chinese and Japanese exchange students.  So far, ALL have been incredibly polite, friendly, respectful etc etc etc.  It hurts me to think that they can't get along.

Some like our country and would like to return.  I'm hoping that one might be the child of a Japanese industrialist and bring a motorbike factory with him.

;) 

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 06:24 | Link to Comment Stifmeister
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The third arrow of Abenomics - WAR!

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 07:04 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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The only safe place from invasion on Japan is Fukushima.

Maybe they just need to build more nuclear power plants around the country.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 07:09 | Link to Comment goldenbuddha454
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They can't continue letting Fukushima dsplaced people to rot on the side of the road, they have to find somewhere to put them.  Why wouldn't they nationalize a bunch of islands noone claims.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 07:21 | Link to Comment Peter Pan
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Valid point from a common sense point of view, but I suspect that these islands can hardly support any life and thet they are being nationalised just for the purpose of marking out the Japanese boundaries as a means of limiting any chess moves by China.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 09:55 | Link to Comment Joenobody12
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Or to expand its territorial claim of the ocean and the potential oil underneath.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 07:33 | Link to Comment PT
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New type of hara-kiri.  First tour of duty for Jap troops:  Clean-up at Fuku.  Sure you can still shoot 'em from a distance, not so sure about hand-to-hand combat.   Don't let 'em breathe on ya!

Hmmm, maybe I should shut up.  Where are they putting the radioactive waste again?  Never mind, nothing, don't listen to me ... I'm just being silly ...

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 08:47 | Link to Comment Duude
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When Abenomics collapes the Yen and the economy, Abe will need an island in which to retreat after the people start chasing him pitchforks in hand.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 09:19 | Link to Comment Dewey Cheatum Howe
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It is real simple Korea, China, refuse to take their paper or use it in currency swaps and valuations among themselves. Just shut the YEN out of the network outright and tell ABE to go fuck himself and pay them in something else he convert the YEN to first.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 09:21 | Link to Comment CEOoftheSOFA
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Is Hawaii on the list?

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 09:52 | Link to Comment RaceToTheBottom
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Hmmm, so that is why they weren't allowed to have an army....

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 11:01 | Link to Comment americanspirit
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I wonder if any of those islands have names like Oahu and Maui? Or perhaps Santa Catalina?

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