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Navy Screws Up - Sends Reporter Details On Avoiding His FOIA Request

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Following a Washington reporter's request to the Navy to turn over documents related to the Navy Yard Shooting, a US Navy official mistakenly forwarded an internal email outlining instructions on exactly how to avoid his Freedom of Information request. As RT reports, hours after NBC's Scott Macfarlane's tweets on the matter went viral, the Navy "regretted the incident" and re-iterated its "commitment to transparency."


Via RT,

Scott MacFarlane, a news reporter for NBC 4 in Washington, DC, had filed a FOIA request with the Navy in an attempt to compel authorities to turn over documents related to the Navy Yard shooting in September. MacFarlane was seeking memos written by higher-ups at Naval Sea Systems Command from September, October, and November 2013--messages sent by the same officials in the hours directly after the shooting occurred, and images of building 197 at the Navy Yard, where the gunman killed 12 people and injured three others.


The Navy’s FOIA office confirmed that it had received MacFarlane’s request, but instead of sending him the relevant documents, they inadvertently sent an internal email containing instructions on how to avoid the reporter’s request. MacFarlane tweeted a screenshot of the message – which included the name of Robin Patterson, the Navy’s FOIA public liaison – accompanied by the phrase “EPIC FAILURE.”


“I think the appropriate response is ‘cameras are prohibited from the premises, with the exception of ‘official photos’ of specific events and assemblies, or ceremonies, such as retirements,” the email read, in part. “This request is too broad to tie to the specific event. If you discover that there is a ‘photo library,’ I would recommend negotiating with the requester..."




FOIA workers advised each other to avoid turning over information by telling MacFarlane his request was too broad and would constitute a “fishing expedition,” and that he should “narrow the scope of his request.”


“Again, another ‘fishing expedition,’” the screenshot shows. “[J]ust because they are media doesn’t mean the memos shed light on specific government activities.”


Officials also singled out one of MacFarlane’s requests in particular, noting “this one is specific enough that we may be able to deny it. However, I want to talk with the FBI as they may have ‘all the emails during that time, in their possession.’”



Just hours after MacFarlane’s tweets went viral, the Navy’s Twitter feed published a series of messages addressing the military’s respect for the FOIA process.


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Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:54 | 4314201 Spanky
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Yes indeed, committed to transparancy. So turn over the documents and emails as requested. Now.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:00 | 4314225 Fukushima Sam
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Probably the only conspiracy here is government workers trying to avoid work.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:12 | 4314259 Xibalba
Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:44 | 4314339 dryam
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It seems to always be a conspiracy theory until it's not.

Business as usual. When are people going to wake up?

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:09 | 4314404 Popo
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Why is it called a "FOIA request"? If the law is on the side of the public, shouldn't it be called a "FOIA demand"?

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:24 | 4314439 JohnnyBriefcase
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I fucking love it when shit like this happens. The aftertweets™ just make it that much more epic!

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:48 | 4314478 PT
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The twittee reads the post on twitter that was written by the twit.

Just thought that might need clearing up. 

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 08:18 | 4314745 El Oregonian
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Just a quick question: Who works for whom, exactly?

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 09:29 | 4314894 Oldwood
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We have hired a massive governmental system to specifically protect us from ourselves as "we know not what we do". Its like we have voluntarily committed ourselves to a mental institution because our "loved ones" and other very smart and caring people have told us its for our own protection. Of course they were not particularly forthcoming about the fact that we might be able to check out but we can never leave. It is amazing how they can be caught red handed at these things and then throw out a few tepid apologies and denials and then act like it never happened. As Hillary would say "What does it matter anyway!" She's right. We are fucked and we all know it.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:32 | 4314453 hidingfromhelis
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They'll stick with the word request, because they'll also stick with "no" as a response.  

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 08:28 | 4314758 El Oregonian
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A classic "Uffda".

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:19 | 4314279 satoshi101
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NAVY: QUICK, CALL THE FBI, we got another nosy reporter who wants to see our videos from when our manchurian-candidate blew his fuse.

FBI: No problem, we'll take care

Conspiracy? If ant's can collectively move  40X their body weight in mass, humans call this 'magic'. If an orgnization of men conspire to meet in secret and collude, the PTB all this an impossibillty.

Why do when SUITS meet we call it 'conspiracy', but when ant's organize we think nothing of it? Go figure....

Move along.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:47 | 4314353 Freddie
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Another "workplace" false flag.  A SWAT team was enroute and was told to stand down. 

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:39 | 4314451 JohnnyBriefcase
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SWAT teams are only used for breaking into citizen's homes in the middle of the night 'cuz they heard that they might have .5 grams of cocaine somewhere.

SWAT teams are most definitely not to be used to stop the government's perception management ops.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 02:32 | 4314537 Xibalba
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Not if you're rich or White they don't.  

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:48 | 4314354 object_orient
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If you want to continue posting frequently, please learn the difference between plural and possessive nouns. Thank you.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 08:39 | 4314769 Al Gorerhythm
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Lax public schooling. There's nothing rigorous about learning or teaching any longer, considering Equitable Outcomes and all. English in America is a dynamic second language, apparently.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 18:36 | 4317226 MeelionDollerBogus
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indeed. I don't even need a spell checker most of the time & no grammar checker's ever been accurate enough to be worth using.
It's actually one particular English teacher I can credit for my good spelling. Way, way back in the days of BBS's (which I'm sure is poorly pluralized but I don't give a fuck), I was corrected repeatedly on spelling & grammar.
Since that wasn't 'work' it was just a hobby it just goes to show how much one particular teacher cared. And in trolling form. I am an honorary graduate of spelling-trolling school :-)

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 11:03 | 4315202 TeMpTeK
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Lemme guess.... The administrations official position is, this reporter is a traitor and must turn himself in for releasing govt secrets........PFFFFFFT!

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:10 | 4314243 Ranger_Will
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Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:11 | 4314246 Ranger_Will
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We regret to inform you that your FOIA request cannot be fufilled due a MOST unfortunate series of events resulting in a complete database failure, fire, and tragic shreading accident.  However, the USN takes your requests very serious and will be happy to comply with any and all future requests.*

Thank you,

Admiral Boom

*Not all records may availble due to the accidents listed above.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:57 | 4314495 o2sd
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We regret to further inform you that the records from investigation into the unfortunate database failure, fire and tragic shredding accident, have themselves been lost in an unfortunate explosion. The investigation into the subsequent explosion is ongoing.


Thu, 01/09/2014 - 05:50 | 4314672 Gazooks
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simple boating accident works here

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 07:00 | 4314701 Dugald
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Further accidental explosions have been planned and given file numbers and distributed to those departments needing such accidents in future


Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:44 | 4314248 Ranger_Will
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A goddamn triple post? Sorry ZH matter how appropriate to the subject, I'll try and lay off the Salior Jerry next time while posting here.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 18:32 | 4317215 MeelionDollerBogus
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any network hiccup & zh does this.
I've got a temporary solution since I never  have this problem with any other site.
I prepare my comment, I save a small one once, and when I see it went through I re-open it.
Doesn't matter how many times the 'save' event is sent by accident, on an edit there's only one message, on a new post it would create a new one every time.
Once I got a quadruple post. That's embarassing.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 06:32 | 4314686 Hobbleknee
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Hey, they tweeted a ten-word apology, so everything is okay now.

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:54 | 4314202 JackWills
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I thought the Navy just threw the request overboard like all the other annoying things.....

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:59 | 4314212 JackWills
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I hope this reporter drives a manual transmission car and not an automatic that may unexplicably accelerate into a tree thanks to computer controlled throtle and electric steering (drive by wire, die by fire).

Hey he should also make sure he is not close to shore where a stray shell accidentaly launched from a ship can take out his house at 2am

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:07 | 4314242 Zero Point
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Stray shell?

Surely you mean "gas explosion".

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:30 | 4314311 Overfed
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Here's the $64000 question: who was in those homes when they blew up? Fuel-air explosions can be very powerful. But consider the odds of two homes in the same place at the same time each having gas leaks that reach perfect stoichemtry before "accidentally" igniting. Pretty similar to the odds of two massive 110-story skyscrapers in the same place on the same day collapsing into their basements due to burning kerosene.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:38 | 4314330 firstdivision
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Here's an even better question, did you do any verification of information? Google is start

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:45 | 4314348 Overfed
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Just as I implied. It was no accident. Hmmm....

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:05 | 4314396 Zero Point
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Were their passports found in the rubble?

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:03 | 4314386 Zero Point
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From the comments at that link:

John Dion Longworth

"Was a victim of the Indiana home explosions.

He was a genius and developed wireless electric plasma lights.
Plasma lights use a Radio Frequency power supply that converts Electrical power to Radio Frequency (RF) power.
Energy savings of up to 70%."


Many, many reasons a gifted researcher into those type of technologies might have a nasty accident.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:14 | 4314417 Overfed
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I realize that correlation isn't necessarily causation, but that is certainly something to make one go "hmmm...."

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 18:25 | 4317185 MeelionDollerBogus
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Let's also not forget the bloombox that can cut energy 50% for the same electrical output converting nat-gas directly without combustion.

Combine the two together...

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 18:24 | 4317183 MeelionDollerBogus
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you mean 3 (3rd not 110 stories but...).

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:55 | 4314204 DirkDiggler11
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Obumma's NSA henchmen have taught them well ...

Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:57 | 4314215 The Heart
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Does "rigging the market" count as a Screw...up!


Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:02 | 4314220 Ranger_Will
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What is their new motto? "A Global Force of Good?"

More like "A Globalist Force for The Good of a Few Elite Banking Scum."

My Grandfather was a Chief Petty Officer in WWII and saw shit that haunted him until his passing...I can only imagine what he'd say if he was alive today.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:10 | 4314244 Grande Tetons
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Your grandfather would likely be proud that he had a grandson that saw through the bullshit.  He might ask what the fuck is twerking...but that is another story. 

My grandfather was in the Air Force and NEVER spoke about a thing regarding the shit he must have seen. 

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:18 | 4314274 starfcker
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i'm always surprised in organizations as large as the navy, and as full of physically brave men as the navy, that there is less pushback to this kind of nonsense. not one person has the common sense to say 'i'm not going to do that.' i would think there would be thousands

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 02:52 | 4314560 satoshi101
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Loose lips sinks ships - 1942

Loose Lips don't get retirement checks - 2001


The frog has been boiled. A long time ago.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 05:53 | 4314674 Gazooks
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shit floats - 2014

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 07:35 | 4314733 negative rates
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Not the jumping one sucker!

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 03:57 | 4314600 StychoKiller
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I suggest that you read "Obedience to Authority" by Dr. Stanley Milgram

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 18:08 | 4317134 MeelionDollerBogus
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This is a good one too: Chain of Obedience

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 07:45 | 4314736 blabam
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Doing what you are told to do is not my definition of "brave". 

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 07:49 | 4314738 starfcker
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Blabam, that is exactly my point. brave enough to risk life and limb, but not brave enough to do the right thing?

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 11:29 | 4315290 Iam_Silverman
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"not one person has the common sense to say 'i'm not going to do that.' "


Well, that would assume that the release of the internal e-mails was truly an accident.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:21 | 4314275 Ranger_Will
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"My grandfather was in the Air Force and NEVER spoke about a thing regarding the shit he must have seen."

Yeah, neither did Pops.  It wasn't until after he passed away that my grandmother told us about the knife fight he gotten into when some Japanese soldiers spang a trap on him and a couple of buddies during some off-duty time. Apparently they'd rigged an abandoned house with all kinds of goodies that would appeal to Americans.  Fortunately he and his buddies made it out of there alive. No details survived passed that, but one's imagination can only wonder what would lead a guy to drink like he did and smoke 2 packs of cigs everyday.  I will say that he had quite a few medals buried with him...and a purple heart was one.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:43 | 4314343 Vlad Tepid
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I always wondered why WWII vets never talked about their experiences and always seemed to have cured themselves of whatever ails returing vets.  Now, thanks to the WSJ, I now know that they were scared to death that if they said anything, their own government was going to come and cut out a piece of their brain.  A hell of an incentive to shut up about the things you experienced.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 04:51 | 4314641 satoshi101
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NOPE VETS are scared shitless of losing thier pass to the FSA, or COMEX,

All vets are extra-special members of the free-shit-army for life,


If you open your mouth you lose everything,

Just like NAZI GERMANY folks would say, why did nobody speak up?




Thu, 01/09/2014 - 08:21 | 4314750 Offthebeach
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Once the debilitating and pacifying effects of, basically, putting indian nations on tit, it was so successful in controling a once independent and warlike people, into servile dependent pacifist s that this has been expanded to each and every group.
Civil War vets were the first.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 08:38 | 4314771 kk1532003
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The vast majority of veterans are nor pensioners.  They are 4 or 6 year enlisted guys who don't get shit.  Maybe a hearing air from the VA for the 40,000 rounds of ammo that they fired with no hearing protection.  Other than that....not so much. 



Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:35 | 4314321 satoshi101
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Long ago I was cleaning  out an old freezer with the old man, had rotten meat, months old, might have been a rental house, don't remember.

The old man said "Shit smells like Germans", what do you mean pop? He said, "We used to pull the boots off of dead germans, and sometimes their leg's would come off, smelled just like this".

Pa, had lots of Story's about Normandy.


Wed, 01/08/2014 - 23:59 | 4314223 Zero Point
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Reminds me of this classic:

I guess everyone has trouble finding decent help.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:20 | 4314284 john39
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A threat to national security under every rock... Meanwhile the bankers and their politician puppets rape and pillage the planet totally unmolsted.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:39 | 4314465 Spanky
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Naw, they're not completely unmolested, yet. After all, they sometimes have to pay a small fine (in proportion to their theft), without admitting guilt mind you...

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 04:09 | 4314605 StychoKiller
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Hmm, looks like someone(s) is watching the watchers (and they don't like it!)

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:02 | 4314229 NoWayJose
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It only re-inforces the reality that government and Wall Street will create false data, destroy any incrimintaing data, will lie under oath, will bribe any regulators either directly or via future job offers, and will settle for only token penalties if all else fails. Whomever wrote that Navy memo should be thrown into jail for life -- because while this may be the first time they got caught -- you know that the memo is actually "policy"...

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:11 | 4314255 satoshi101
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No what this story tells you is that the FOIA is a pain in the ass, and must be eliminated.

I'm sure OBAMA-OREO is drafting an executive order as we speak to NULL&VOID the FOIA.


Thu, 01/09/2014 - 02:43 | 4314550 W74
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I think the FOIA was one of those things to give We The Sheeple a sense and feeling of transparency without having to actually deliver it.

From what we've seen, in actuality, since the inception of the act is that it is all too fungible, too easy to avoid.  Oh you'll get your information, it just won't be the truth or only infinitesimal slivers of truth while ignoring that which you are not supposed to know.

These days, I wouldn't be surprised if people who use FOIA are put on watchlists as "subversives" or "sabateurs" nor surprised if they become the first in line for FEMA camp showers.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 03:00 | 4314568 satoshi101
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FOIA - 1966

That's a long time ago, ... all else has been taken away, why in the hell not the FOIA? It ain't sacred a long time ago the US-MIL was exempt from the FOIA, they would just say 'secret'.

FOIA was for 'waste' if I remember correctly, obama nazi-oreo can take away the FOIA with a stroke of a pen, ... if he hasn't already.

We wouldn't even know, most Executive Order's must be secret, to keep you safe.




It boggles the mind, here that this POST has been here for many hours, now and not one ZH'er here has focussed on the issue about the video taps at the navy-yard shooting, ... all this fucking COINTELPRO DISINFO here from the US-GOV trolls, sometimes I think 90% of all the commenters here are GUB-MINT-BOTS.

NAVY-YARD videos are the issue here, to see what actually happened, as nobody really knows because the NAVY locked everybody, including DC civililian police.



If this story can't even be properly told here, or comprehended by even 10%, what is the fucking point?


Thu, 01/09/2014 - 17:20 | 4316933 MeelionDollerBogus
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what's that, Felony of Inquiring Aspirations?

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:03 | 4314231 One And Only
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Can we send Obama back to Kenya yet?

What an embarrassment this country has become.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 06:06 | 4314676 BringOnTheAsteroid
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Hate to break this to you but the States took out that title when GW misunderestimated his ability to string a coherent sentence together.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 13:01 | 4315710 HamFistedIdiot
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The racism and anti-Obama stuff is trollish and distracting. See Dreams from My Real Father. Who the guy really is is itself a matter of national (in) security and beyond the FOIA. He was likely not even born in Kenya. Obama is a distraction from the forces behind the throne. Not everyone is a paid shill, some are just "useful idiots" trained well by the media. See Webster Tarpley's breakdown of how false flags work. The rabbit hole goes deeper and deeper until the entire official story is shown to be a lie. It's machiavelli -- the ends justifiy the means. A new world order is being built upon the ashes of western enlightenment. The Nazis were not defeated in WW2. They were brought over in Operation Paperclip to give birth to the CIA and NSA. Don't give up your guns, don't give up your gold. Oh yeah, and don't fucking breath the air being engineered with heavy metals across G-20 countries to help ease the burden of unfunded tax liabilities via earlier deaths for the sheeple. It's the green thing to do, you know.  Criminal aerosol spray operations.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:03 | 4314232 El Vaquero
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This paranoid secrecy shit really pisses me off.  Somebody needs to punch these bastards square in their cocksuckers. 

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 16:49 | 4316794 MeelionDollerBogus
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Funny you should mention that...

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:06 | 4314237 IridiumRebel
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The Navy tweets? "#USNavy sending troops to atomic death @ #Fukushima. #MidrareLongshoreman."

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:22 | 4314247 satoshi101
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Wow, nobody here commenting on the issue that the NAVY doesn't want anybody to see what really happened when their manchurian-candidate went haywire.

Remember also that on that day the WASH-DC capitol police sniper team was training across the street, and they were the first responders, they were ordered to stand down by CAPITOL-POLICE chief via radio, and return to their training.

This entire story about the NAVY shooting is a cover-up and also notice they want the FBI to help them cover and report this nosy reporter.

Remember the FBI is no longer in the job of 'law enforcement' now their job is to exterminate nosy reporters.


Problem here folks is EMAIL, its just too easy to send the wrong script, let's hope that more reporters are sent this shit, so that more light can be put on the cockroaches.


Lastly, this story was about how the Navy was testing Microwave devices to put 'sounds' in peoples head, and driving them nuts, the shooter was said to have complained for a long time about the 'voices' and everybody ignored his problems, the problem of course is that these devices really do exist and the NAVY really does test its own 'black' enlistee's.

Most likely the 'Manchurian Candidate' just went 'HAYWIRE' at the wrong place and wrong time, but important thing is the NAVY did not want the CAPITOL POLICE SNIPER to enter during the event, there is something they don't want non FBI/MIL people to see.


Pelosi and Feinstein to View the Videos in question.

Sanders (VT) to send letter to NAVY asking if 'persons' can see videos?

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:14 | 4314263 satoshi101
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SHit is very real, anybody that doesn't know about this shit should study it, ...

Essentially at a distance words/thoughts can be implanted in your brain at a distance. Using microwave energy, of course if you get a more than a few minutes a day of this shit your brain heats up, and you go nuts or die.

But it works, and has been researched by the NAVY since the 1960's.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:21 | 4314286 Zero Point
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Ever heard of the Russian "Woodpecker" satoshi?

Some very interesting conjecture about it's purpose going around.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:29 | 4314309 satoshi101
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I hear you, but stay focussed on the issue at hand.

'woodpecker' was broad project, the device used here by the US-MIL is directed to individuals, at short range, essentially the part of the brain that handles speech, and auditory-cortext are heated ( microwaves make water molecules bounce ), sound waves are just heat in the innner ear,

Correct use of micro-wave weapons, allows the MIL to put sounds  in the MIND, which in some individuals, allows you to control them.


Stay foccussed folks, and don't let us be derailed from the topic at hand.

1.) Why does the NAVY/FBI not want anyone to see the SHOOTER in action?

2.) Why did the NAVY refuse Capitol Police Sniper team access who were first responders?

3.) Why did the NAVY report the FOIA request to the FBI?

4.) Who is the real target? When the NAVY makes these manchurian-candidates, who are the intended victims?

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:40 | 4314338 Zero Point
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Yeah, gotcha.

I read about that stuff a while ago I must admit. Amongst some conjecture about possible uses of HAARP arrays for large scale mind alteration as I recall.

Wet warez, Hooman hacking. Welcome to the new reality.


Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:49 | 4314359 satoshi101
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Well I think if your read the wiki you can see this stuff is actually 50+ years old.

The secret stuff is even more interesting, they were doing this in the 1960's, but now with modern computers and MP3 files driving microwave directed antenna's, they can play 'stair way to heaven' inside your brain, a considerable number of feet, and through walls.

What's most useful is that some people, react differently than others, the deal is to find the weak minded fool who thinks these words are his own thoughts.

My guys are strong enough to reject the bullshit, but 1 in 10, you can lead them like a lemming anywhere you want take them.


Thu, 01/09/2014 - 16:41 | 4316747 MeelionDollerBogus
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HAARP can resonate signals in the upper ionosphere. That's it. It doesn't hit ground-targets.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:32 | 4314454 therevolutionwas
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And where is the media reporting on this?

The media is here.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:44 | 4314345 Musashi Miyamoto
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I followed you until "Essentially at a distance words/thoughts can be implanted in your brain at a distance."

help me out here

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 04:33 | 4314517 layman_please
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not to derail satoshi101, i'll reply you. actually the voices are formed in the ear or in the skull, not in the mind(brain), at least according to the wiki page he provided. 

actually this Microwave_auditory_effect explains the phenomena 'targeted individuals' which i thought to be total bull.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:29 | 4314449 samsara
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+1 for you

Yes, tell them to google.

"Richard Alan Miller "
and read this among other things...

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 05:26 | 4314637 layman_please
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Also I would add dr John Hall who got involved in the topic by giving his relative benefit of the doubt when she complained of being mind-targeted, drugged and raped. He actually encountered the private contractors(ex-fbi/ex-cia personnel) who were surveilling and terrorising the patient. According to him the technology is in the human experimentation phase at the moment so that's why the targets are mostly (hot) housewives.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 16:37 | 4316724 MeelionDollerBogus
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Absolute bullshit.
Words unspoken in the mind have a physical form. That physical form is a gigantic network of neurotransmitter chemicals. You can't control precisely which chemicals & neurons will be active in this pattern from ANY outside source.
Not magnetic, not force, not whispers, not ANYTHING.
The brain is incredibly complex. For what you're describing to work the brain would have to be no more complex than a child's push-toy.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:29 | 4314308 Seasmoke
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Fuck. Even the Navy :(

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:37 | 4314327 suteibu
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Meanwhile, despite this, our valiant media will continue to simply sit on their collective (pun intended) hands (or bow if Obama walks into the room).

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:43 | 4314344 satoshi101
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This MYTH is long dead,

You cannot speak on behalf of the MSM unless you belong to the club, if you see anybody on TV talking, he is a member of the club.

The MSM belongs to the PTB, they OWN the MSM, by definition,

They're not going to fuck themselves,

The PTB own the NAVY, the FBI, and the MSM.

You can be sure this info-officer at the NAVY who sent the wrong EMAIL, will spend the rest of his life peeling potatoes.


There is nothing we can do put make of fun of them and tell jokes, the frog is boiled dead long ago. Nobody can get near the MSM and tell the truth, he will die.

This case if anything proves that Manchurian-Candidates exist, and that they can deploy them anywhere any time, and that they can use them in DC, and get away with any crime.

Just like BOSTON-BOMBING these are just tests.

My feeling along the NAVY-YARD shooting was to test loyalty, to make sure the CAPITOL-POLICE did stand-down as ordered.

Me thinks the NAVY-YARD shooting fulfilled its goal, everybody did as they were told.


Thu, 01/09/2014 - 00:41 | 4314340 Seize Mars
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Our "brave men and women in uniform."

Cowards. It takes a brave man to disobey illegal orders. Not one war has been declared since WWII. Not one.

If they tell you to deploy in some part of the world, say "no, that's an illegal order since Congress didn't authorize it."

Go ahead you lying, ratfuck coward scumbags, act like a goddamned Continental Soldier for once.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:53 | 4314488 acetinker
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If you know me at all, and there's no reason you should, this will seem out of character.  Supposedly, a guy named Jesus hanging, dying on a crucifix said, "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do."

We have to do the same, Mars.  We have to forgive them- doesn't mean I won't kill the ratfuck coward scumbags if they fuck with me or mine, but they will die forgiven.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 06:10 | 4314678 geewhiz
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I think its more fashionable to thank them for their service. After all they do go abroad on the taxpayers stolen dime and rustle up some new enemies for the taxpayer while prosecuting the NWO's agenda to turn the taxpayer into slaves. And then they get themselves PSTD and blown into bits and the taxpayer gets to help keep them together as well. Mummy and Daddy makes them strong but the military makes them army strong, advertising horseshit also paid for with the taxpayers stolen dime.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 08:51 | 4314789 kk1532003
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career officers...maybe.  But if you are refering to the 18 year old Lance Corporal who joined so he can get the fuck out of BFE (which is the vast majority of the "trigger pullers") you have it all wrong.  He's been indoctrinated just like everyone else.  Just like you were at one point in time.  Give him a fews years...a few life experiences...many of us come around and learn to see things for what they are. 

One day these same people become the biggest threat to the status quo.  They have been inside the machine, they know how it works, and therefore they know how it can be broken.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 13:13 | 4315790 HamFistedIdiot
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The System will also do everything it can to ruin these soldiers, placing them on extended duties till they break, give them unwinnable and immoral directives, put them on psychotropic drugs to ease their pain, and then declare them unfit to own a gun when they are back state-side as civilians again. I am not as confident as you that there will be a "mass awakening" of this group, nor that the numbers of retired service people who have survived intact will be sufficient to alter the course we're on. But there is always hope...

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:08 | 4314402 Clowns on Acid
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Just an extension of the Navy's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell". Oh wait a minute poofters can join now.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:43 | 4314468 W74
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A friend of mine (known for 3 years now, seen his youngest two grow up) is an LT in the Navy.  Asks another LT (both senior grade) what her husband did for a living. Room gets dead quiet.  Tension.

She gives him "the eye" and then snidely informs him that she's married to a woman.  Friend says "Oh, OK, sorry, I didn't know, so what does your wife do for a living"

Lesbo chick files conduct complaint about her fellow officer's "insensitivity".  Goes as high as their Captain (equivilant of Colonel) before it gets dismissed. Absolutely wild times we live in.

All this does is teach people that they can't even have friendly conversations.  And being "an evil white male OMG check your privilege!" it's easy for ANY OTHER group of person to be able to claim that you discriminated against them.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 02:10 | 4314518 secured_party-c...
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Isn't that one of the core beliefs of liberalism...."The white hedro sexual male is to blame for all the worlds woes" Lou Marinoff

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 02:22 | 4314524 W74
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Yes, yes it is.  And this woman that he told me about in particular gets not onw, but TWO sets of "victim points".  One for being female, another for being gay. 

If she were black I think my friend would've been shit canned and ruined for life.  You can almost see it like a scene from the movies: "Well it be just the two of us in the room and, well, he did be called me a nigger"

What's worse is that the "victims" can literally make anything up these days.  Don't like your husband: Just claim that he hit you.  Don't like your boss: Just say that he grabbed your ass.  Don't like your landlord: Claim discrimination....the list goes on and then we wonder why there's so little investment in the USA and why so many White Males are simply checking out of the system altogther.

If you want your fucked up victim mentality...You can keep your fucked up victim mentality.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 01:59 | 4314503 Bunga Bunga
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Old wisdom says: A liar needs a very good memory.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 02:07 | 4314514 akak
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But the federal government just needs the NSA and militarized police.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 08:42 | 4314779 kk1532003
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New wisdom say : An honest man needs a good lawyer.


Truth is treason in the kingdom of lies...and all that stuff...

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 03:05 | 4314572 Manipuflation
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Does the US Navy really need to be tweeting in the first place? 

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 08:41 | 4314777 kk1532003
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The "Navy" is at sea, where it belongs..  I think you are refering to those pecil pushing monkeys at the Navy yard...a.k.a  Admirals and their staff.  

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 04:30 | 4314619 pupdog1
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Let's not be too hard on the Navy.

It's not like they drove a brand-new aircraft carrier through an intensely radioactive cloud or anything like that.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 04:45 | 4314633 satoshi101
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Stay focussed folks, and don't let us be derailed from the topic at hand.

1.) Why does the NAVY/FBI not want anyone to see the SHOOTER in action?

2.) Why did the NAVY refuse Capitol Police Sniper team access who were first responders?

3.) Why did the NAVY report the FOIA request to the FBI?

4.) Who is the real target? When the NAVY makes these manchurian-candidates, who are the intended victims?

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 16:09 | 4316562 MeelionDollerBogus
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wasn't there a SWAT team ready to engage and ORDERED to stand down?
Who gave the order for the CODE RED?

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 04:58 | 4314645 css1971
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Pay attention to what they do, not what they say.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 06:57 | 4314697 Peter Pan
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FOIA request or not, is anyone naive enought to believe that the armed forces divulge anything they really do not want to divulge?

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 08:17 | 4314748 jmcadg
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WTC Building 11

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 08:22 | 4314752 El Hosel
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All Branches of the Oligarchy remain commited to Transparancy... as far as you know.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 08:59 | 4314811 rsnoble
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Pesky laws.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 09:06 | 4314812 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Most of those vets are nothing more than used and abused, once finished spat out like yesterday's news for the next crop of fresh fish. It can be hazardous work and the contracts you sign when you sign up reflect that in the benefits it is no different than in the private sector. Hazardous work you need better pay and or perks to attract talent that would otherwise not consider risking life and limb. Don't hate the vets, hate their sociopath handlers and assholes who promise the moon and stars then don't deliver afterwards.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 11:05 | 4315182 satoshi101
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Hate the VETS

When the VETS are  finsihed with their 4-6 years they come out and become cops, tsa, or DHS,

They exit 4 years of butt-fucking iraqis' and then theey go work at DHS and fingerbang babys, slap little girls, and knock grandma out of her wheel chair.

Defend the vets all you wish, but where do you think the assholes that are filling all the cop jobs are coming from?


The entire reason that Law Enforcement in the USA is infested with assholes, is that we have been running a non-volunteer army for 40 years and only hiring assholes who like to beat and kill, and then after they do their 4-6 years we make them cops.

Duh, and you wonder why the cop's treat citizens like shit, because every cop on the street thinks that he's  still in Iraq.


Thu, 01/09/2014 - 12:19 | 4315520 Toolshed
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Go back to China.

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:57 | 4316483 MeelionDollerBogus
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truth hurts, eh?

He's makin' his list

he's checkin' it twice

he knows which cops been naughty or nice

Dorner Claus is comin' to town

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 09:29 | 4314895 GrinandBearit
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All government military and agencies are bought and paid for.  There is no way anyone can fight it or do anything about it.  TPTB have all the tanks, planes, drones, advanced weapons and they control all local law enforcement.  TPTB have a hold on everything you do and everything that you have.  They essentially own you... they own everything. 

American revolution 2 is the only way to change all this.  It will be bloody, violent and millions will die, but there really is NO other way. 

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 13:32 | 4315884 HamFistedIdiot
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Trollish. There are some, maybe many good people in government and the military. Financially, it's one of the only games in town to put food on your table. Not everyone is so easily corrupted. Calls for violence are usually from paid shills or useful idiots. Who's the enemy? How do you fight an air force that is largely remote controlled? How do you get good leadership at the highest levels of the military when so many of the honorable ones are weeded out via recently leaked litmus tests, such as "will you confiscate guns from Americans" ? Right now I am in the Joel Skousen camp, which predicts that the current system will fail, and as 100 million Americans are on Welfare -- and many more work FOR the system -- few will mount an effective effort to seriously change things. But even this failure is planned for by TPTB, who will invite a nuclear attack on the US by China or Russia in the next 10 years or so, but the attack will spare most of the cities and just decapitate the military, at which point TPTB will emerge from their underground bases with new weapons and will retaliate, but only after the USA has agreed to complete merging with Rothshild/Rockefeller international banker NWO via some UN agreement, which allows a total rewrite of civil liberties, property rights, and tax law in the US. Skousen hopes there will be some patriotic outposts in the US that will continue living the tradition of liberty and not under UN/banker occupation. He has a book called Strategic Relocation which is part of an overall survival guide through these rocky times. In the meantime I contibnue to support Constitutional Conservatives and I write letters and make phone calls to say no to more wars and banker bailouts. And I do other things to be more independent of the system in terms of finances, health, and energy and food production. Best wishes to everyone here at ZH.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 15:26 | 4316298 MeelionDollerBogus
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#1 use EMP's to take out the remote controls
#2 control the land food comes from so they do as you say or they starve.

#3 who is the enemy: R U FKN SRS? Really?

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 09:46 | 4314930 Pumpkin
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So, once again the servant tells the king to shut up and eat shit.  I say off with his head!

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 10:40 | 4315103 esum
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zero accountability..... so without whistleblowers WE DONT GET THE FACTS...

this is why obama has the intel agents on the ground in benghazi under wraps....

however there will be a revelation at the right time..... just like the swifties acted revealing the facts about john kohn (aka kerry)... puppet of georgi schwartz (the nazi collaborator aka soros)... 

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 11:32 | 4315298 Dre4dwolf
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foia requests are a joke, the only way you get any information is if they mistakenly send it to you by filing it in the outbox instead of the shred box.

Thu, 01/09/2014 - 15:17 | 4316272 MeelionDollerBogus
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with competence like this, who needs whistleblowers?

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